Blizzard i definately agree with, but EA Mythic i dont know too much about thier MMO history *avoided ea games... ... closed MCO and made me play sims:online....* What exactly does EA Mythic have under their belt that is a huge success in the pay2play MMO market?
Two words: DaoC endgame. They invented the term RvR (Realm vs. Realm) and they're the only company that has gotten Keep warfare and open field warfare right.
Don't think that's two words. That's an acronym and a word or five words. Also, RvR isn't that special, and nothing can beat Ultima Online's pvp, not even your precious Keep Warfare.
I agree in regards to the UO comment, although was it the combat or the looting that was so fun ? RvR is the next best thing outside of that (WAR will have some form of looting which is nice).
I do not necessarily like Blizzard but they are a Quality company. I wouldn't narrow the list down to Mythic and Blizzard, though. For example Cryptic w/ CoX, Turbine w/ LoTRO, NCSoft w/ Lineage II, SOE (to an extent) w/ Planetside, and Flying Labs Software w/ PotBS. A quality company is not determined by the number of copies they sell, but rather how they present themselves as well as handle the issues placed before them. Some companies are motivated by the idea of creating a great gaming experience, while others are driven solely by the though of our $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $. Of course everyone is entitled to thier own opinion of a good company.
I agree with mot everything but....PotBS. Really? ick.
All you did was name the companies of some games that you liked, not actually successful games.. Blizzard and NCsoft made quality MMOs. No questions asked.
Puhleeze! NCSOFT?! Lineage II ring a bell? Complete and utter piece of trash and one of the biggest flops at that. NCSOFT is no different from Funcom, as far as I'm concerned.
No. I've played every mmo out there and I can safely say that Mythic and Blizzard are the best at what they do.
L2 is no way a flop
it has 2 million subs
And most of them are in Asia, and a good deal of the ones here are likely gold-spammers.
No arguements with Blizzard being able to make good games but Mythic ? RVR wasn't that great and the game DAOC was average at best. WAR will be a pvp based game that will not appeal to the general masses.
That's your opinion about the RvR and I can safely say that you're in the minority right there. As for "WAR only being pvp", nothing can be further from the truth. I have it on authority that their pve is at least as good as WoW's right now AND it contributes to the overall war. You don't see that in WoW.
That's right. All this rhetoric here are just opinions. His, yours, mine, ours. Opinions, nothing more, nothing less. His hold no more weight than yours. But when you start spouting off and using phrases like "you're in the minority" and "I have it on authority" to get your opinion across as gospel, then you just look ridiculous.
And by the way anyone who uses the phrase "I have it on authority"... Usually doesn't.
just like religion lol
but yeah WAR is a RVR based game but it will have very...very strong PVE elements in the game and those who say the ToK is just like the Xbox system of achivements are wrong yes similar but ToK is a lot more
I do not necessarily like Blizzard but they are a Quality company. I wouldn't narrow the list down to Mythic and Blizzard, though. For example Cryptic w/ CoX, Turbine w/ LoTRO, NCSoft w/ Lineage II, SOE (to an extent) w/ Planetside, and Flying Labs Software w/ PotBS. A quality company is not determined by the number of copies they sell, but rather how they present themselves as well as handle the issues placed before them. Some companies are motivated by the idea of creating a great gaming experience, while others are driven solely by the though of our $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $. Of course everyone is entitled to thier own opinion of a good company.
I agree with mot everything but....PotBS. Really? ick.
If we were talking about the game rather than the company, I would agree as well.
I do not necessarily like Blizzard but they are a Quality company. I wouldn't narrow the list down to Mythic and Blizzard, though. For example Cryptic w/ CoX, Turbine w/ LoTRO, NCSoft w/ Lineage II, SOE (to an extent) w/ Planetside, and Flying Labs Software w/ PotBS. A quality company is not determined by the number of copies they sell, but rather how they present themselves as well as handle the issues placed before them. Some companies are motivated by the idea of creating a great gaming experience, while others are driven solely by the though of our $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $. Of course everyone is entitled to thier own opinion of a good company.
I agree with mot everything but....PotBS. Really? ick.
If we were talking about the game rather than the company, I would agree as well.
Fantastic soundtrack and music though.
Upon further reflection, I think I'd like to agree with you about Flying Labs but along the way, you really do have to quality that company as having had some success too.
FLS did handle managing their fans with the constant revisions and they dealt with the anti-SOE NGE vet crowd well but they didn't necessarily do themselves any favors by taking the stance of "no crying in the red circle" although they're reversing that now which is good. Regardless, every other vendor mentioned is arguably a quality company but also delivered a quality game. Getting a bunch of cool coders into the same room doesn't necessarily make them a quality company if they can't deliver and I think most would agree that PotBS isn't that and therefore you can't lumpt FLS with them.
No arguements with Blizzard being able to make good games but Mythic ? RVR wasn't that great and the game DAOC was average at best. WAR will be a pvp based game that will not appeal to the general masses.
to me it seems WAR pvp is more strategic, most pvp monkeys dont like that
they want to rely on their ubar pvp skillzorz which usually consist of low latency, outgearing their enemies and smashing buttons as fast as possible. they wont like slow combat
Originally posted by bachanam Blizzard i definately agree with, but EA Mythic i dont know too much about thier MMO history *avoided ea games... ... closed MCO and made me play sims:online....* What exactly does EA Mythic have under their belt that is a huge success in the pay2play MMO market?
EA Mythic = Mythic Entertainment, creators of Dark Age of Camelot.
Like said I'd add Square-Enix to the list. While I don't care for what they did with FFXI it is still a very solid and quality game.
All you did was name the companies of some games that you liked, not actually successful games.. Blizzard and NCsoft made quality MMOs. No questions asked.
Puhleeze! NCSOFT?! Lineage II ring a bell? Complete and utter piece of trash and one of the biggest flops at that. NCSOFT is no different from Funcom, as far as I'm concerned.
No. I've played every mmo out there and I can safely say that Mythic and Blizzard are the best at what they do.
you must be joking, while i have tried Lineage II and decided it wasn't my style and wasn't for me, you cannot argue the fact that Lineage I & II were some of the most successful MMORPG's of their time.
Successfull yes, Quality a big NO. Successfull does not = Quality.
This is a little kiddie tread my game is better than yours this company is better than yours. Come on people what is the purpose of this tread if that company is not paying you money. Why should you care what company is better than what this topic is pointless.
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All you did was name the companies of some games that you liked, not actually successful games.. Blizzard and NCsoft made quality MMOs. No questions asked.
Puhleeze! NCSOFT?! Lineage II ring a bell? Complete and utter piece of trash and one of the biggest flops at that. NCSOFT is no different from Funcom, as far as I'm concerned.
No. I've played every mmo out there and I can safely say that Mythic and Blizzard are the best at what they do.
L2 is no way a flop
it has 2 million subs
And most of them are in Asia, and a good deal of the ones here are likely gold-spammers.
Regardless, they still count as they are players who like and play the game. As far as Euro and U.S. players, L2 has a very hard core following. They even had to open up a new Euro server. Just because people don't like something doesn't mean that it isn't a good game.
Now that doesn't mean that the L2 dev's don't have their issues but L2, within the scope of what it is, is a very decent game.
NcSoft Does some good stuff but they have some issues that seem to stem from them being a Korean company. If people would like to explore that, just do some research of other Korean companies that have offices overseas and how they treat the managment and workers. There is a "my way or the highway" mentality and they have many times laid off management with no notice because they wanted to clean house. But I digress...
I also think Turbine does a decent job. Whether one agrees with how they have developed a game is another thing. You have to look at what they intended to do and if they succeeded.
And whether or not people like it or not, SOE has done a decent job with EQII. I think that, though I don't agree with many of their design decisions or artistic decisions, that it is a fine game as it is today.
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well everyone is entitled to an opinion ofcourse and so are the OP.. however I like Blizzard but there is many good gaming company only because the OP digs WoW and WAR doesn't mean it's the only good companies.
Companies are good until they release one bad MMO.
Blizzard has what WOW and was based off one of their besting selling RTS? They have another MMO planned so hopefully be just as good as WOW even though i never got into WOW its still a good game. Mythic has DAOC which really wasn't as popular as I would hope was still good. RVR does own. WAR will hopefully be more popular and RVR funner. SOE had Everquest and people loved it. They release SWG which sucked people lose faith. Microsoft droppped Vangaurd after rushing it and SOE picked it up and wasn't that good at launch. Everquest 2 was actually ok game. People just love to hate SOE but if SOE ever makes another really awesome MMO people will break down and buy it. Any other MMOS SOE released i never tried. NC Soft spits out more MMOs than SOE. SOme could be good I don't really know only play COH?COV really from them. It was ok. Bioware has a MMO coming out too not much info at all so don't really know if it even looks good. They make good RPGS so we can hope. Blizzards next MMO and Biowares MMO are the 2 MMOs after WAR that really interest me. No other MMOS in 2008 really interest me besides WAR.
Sony did not develop Everquest. Verant developed and ran the Everquest MMO until Sony bought Verant.
Companies are good until they release one bad MMO.
Blizzard has what WOW and was based off one of their besting selling RTS? They have another MMO planned so hopefully be just as good as WOW even though i never got into WOW its still a good game. Mythic has DAOC which really wasn't as popular as I would hope was still good. RVR does own. WAR will hopefully be more popular and RVR funner. SOE had Everquest and people loved it. They release SWG which sucked people lose faith. Microsoft droppped Vangaurd after rushing it and SOE picked it up and wasn't that good at launch. Everquest 2 was actually ok game. People just love to hate SOE but if SOE ever makes another really awesome MMO people will break down and buy it. Any other MMOS SOE released i never tried. NC Soft spits out more MMOs than SOE. SOme could be good I don't really know only play COH?COV really from them. It was ok. Bioware has a MMO coming out too not much info at all so don't really know if it even looks good. They make good RPGS so we can hope. Blizzards next MMO and Biowares MMO are the 2 MMOs after WAR that really interest me. No other MMOS in 2008 really interest me besides WAR.
Sony did not develop Everquest. Verant developed and ran the Everquest MMO until Sony bought Verant.
Bonus question: What was the name of the company before it changed to Verant?
Anyone?
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They're the only two MMO gaming companies that I have complete faith in to turn out a quality product. You heard it right here: WAR is going to become the new King of the Hill of MMO games down the road. I predict that WoW has seen its' peak in subscribers and will start to decline while WAR will steadily rise. They will eventually meet in the middle and be tied as the two biggest MMOs (45% each of the total market while everybody else shares the 10%). The only thing that will be able to challenge WAR in the future is if Blizzard decides to go old school and create a COMPLETELY Instanced free MMO with 0 lag (since WAR still has instances.. although, their open field pvp will still kick some butt).
War is WOW and yeah i know WAR was first in the gaming world but WOW beat them to the MMORPG world there is nothing i see in WAR that doesnt look the same exact thing as wow. if they want to beat wow they will have to do good updates every month because WOW has a hard time doing this because they could care less.
You seem to have missed the point of the game. They're not making a game to beat WoW - anyone setting out to do that is an idiot. Their game has an entirely different focus. You should play WAR because you want RvR, not because you want it to beat WoW's amount of PvE raid dungeons.
Companies are good until they release one bad MMO.
Blizzard has what WOW and was based off one of their besting selling RTS? They have another MMO planned so hopefully be just as good as WOW even though i never got into WOW its still a good game. Mythic has DAOC which really wasn't as popular as I would hope was still good. RVR does own. WAR will hopefully be more popular and RVR funner. SOE had Everquest and people loved it. They release SWG which sucked people lose faith. Microsoft droppped Vangaurd after rushing it and SOE picked it up and wasn't that good at launch. Everquest 2 was actually ok game. People just love to hate SOE but if SOE ever makes another really awesome MMO people will break down and buy it. Any other MMOS SOE released i never tried. NC Soft spits out more MMOs than SOE. SOme could be good I don't really know only play COH?COV really from them. It was ok. Bioware has a MMO coming out too not much info at all so don't really know if it even looks good. They make good RPGS so we can hope. Blizzards next MMO and Biowares MMO are the 2 MMOs after WAR that really interest me. No other MMOS in 2008 really interest me besides WAR.
Sony did not develop Everquest. Verant developed and ran the Everquest MMO until Sony bought Verant.
Bonus question: What was the name of the company before it changed to Verant?
Anyone?
They emerged from 989 Studios (formerly Sony Interactive Studios).
Sony did not develop Everquest. Verant developed and ran the Everquest MMO until Sony bought Verant.
That isn't it either. Everquest was originally developed by a company called 989 Studios.
Google could be someones friend... *hint* SISA where Smedley originally worked (Sony Interactive Studio's America) began EQ1's development in 1996... that studio was later renamed to 989 Studio's and eventually to Redeye <forget the second name> and then Verant (which was an independent developer of EQ from early 1999 until 2000 when Sony re-aquired Verant. Since EQ launched in March of 1999.. there wouldn't have been a whole hell of a lot of development time when Sony didn't own the studio developing the game.
^^ That's actually meant for Thorwood.
Anyway as to what got me into this thread...
WAR will probably do just fine in the MMO market.
I just found it rather odd that someone used EA and trust in the same sentence. btw OP have you logged into DAoC lately? Or checked camelotherald.com to see the "high online population" since the EA mandated changes to DAoC..
might give you an idea for WAR and EA's greatness.
*hint* before EA aquired Mythic the average high online population was still in the 60,000 range.. not 3500.. or less.. oh and yes the reason I left was due to the idiot changes after EA bought mythic. That's just my perspective tho.
I never knew about 989 Studios. Wikipedia says 989 Studios was actually owned by Sony, so I was wrong. The Everquest part of 989 Studios split off as an independent company, Verant Interactive. Everquest launched in March 1999. Sony bought Verant Interactive in late 1999.
The Wikipedia listings under Everquest, Verant and 989 Studios give slightly different accounts of the company splits and purchases.
No arguements with Blizzard being able to make good games but Mythic ? RVR wasn't that great and the game DAOC was average at best. WAR will be a pvp based game that will not appeal to the general masses.
to me it seems WAR pvp is more strategic, most pvp monkeys dont like that
they want to rely on their ubar pvp skillzorz which usually consist of low latency, outgearing their enemies and smashing buttons as fast as possible. they wont like slow combat
sadly
sh7yuyhjugtfrswthyjuirt5f4y7u8
I just owned someone in wow using a warlock/rogue/warrior. WAR wont have that. From what theyve shown you have to keep up with what you cast as you get into spell tiers.
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All you did was name the companies of some games that you liked, not actually successful games.. Blizzard and NCsoft made quality MMOs. No questions asked.
Puhleeze! NCSOFT?! Lineage II ring a bell? Complete and utter piece of trash and one of the biggest flops at that. NCSOFT is no different from Funcom, as far as I'm concerned.
No. I've played every mmo out there and I can safely say that Mythic and Blizzard are the best at what they do.
L2 is no way a flop
it has 2 million subs
And most of them are in Asia, and a good deal of the ones here are likely gold-spammers.
Regardless, they still count as they are players who like and play the game. As far as Euro and U.S. players, L2 has a very hard core following. They even had to open up a new Euro server. Just because people don't like something doesn't mean that it isn't a good game.
Now that doesn't mean that the L2 dev's don't have their issues but L2, within the scope of what it is, is a very decent game.
NcSoft Does some good stuff but they have some issues that seem to stem from them being a Korean company. If people would like to explore that, just do some research of other Korean companies that have offices overseas and how they treat the managment and workers. There is a "my way or the highway" mentality and they have many times laid off management with no notice because they wanted to clean house. But I digress...
Haha yeah, because all Western games are so great, the companies are so fair to their employees (if I ever stop seeing whining about EA for this or that reason then that'll be the day I eat my words), and because Western gamers are the only ones who pay money that counts. For god's sake, people, stop using the "yeah, but 8 million of those are AZNS!!!!" remark, it makes you look stupid, racist, and narrow-minded. Same for "oh but the problem with NCSoft, you know what it is? They're korean, mate, fucking korean. If only they were American, dude, that company would soar the eagle-ridden skies." Lineage 2 is an awesome game for a whole of a lot of people, PEOPLE, guys, just like you and me. Nationality is irrelevant. Their devs might be craptastic, but so are many others, take your pick, from Planetside to Star Wars Galaxies.
Good, stable games backed up by a company that shows that they truly care about their game? I'd go for Mythic, Blizzard, and whoever the hell runs CoX (Cryptic first, NCSoft later). Whatever. In the end it doesn't matter who we pick, because they don't pick us personally as their customers. So unless you're being paid, then there's no relevant point to be made in saying that X company is better than Y.
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Two words: DaoC endgame. They invented the term RvR (Realm vs. Realm) and they're the only company that has gotten Keep warfare and open field warfare right.
Don't think that's two words. That's an acronym and a word or five words. Also, RvR isn't that special, and nothing can beat Ultima Online's pvp, not even your precious Keep Warfare.
I agree in regards to the UO comment, although was it the combat or the looting that was so fun
? RvR is the next best thing outside of that (WAR will have some form of looting which is nice).
I agree with mot everything but....PotBS. Really? ick.
Puhleeze! NCSOFT?! Lineage II ring a bell? Complete and utter piece of trash and one of the biggest flops at that. NCSOFT is no different from Funcom, as far as I'm concerned.
No. I've played every mmo out there and I can safely say that Mythic and Blizzard are the best at what they do.
L2 is no way a flop
it has 2 million subs
And most of them are in Asia, and a good deal of the ones here are likely gold-spammers.
That's your opinion about the RvR and I can safely say that you're in the minority right there. As for "WAR only being pvp", nothing can be further from the truth. I have it on authority that their pve is at least as good as WoW's right now AND it contributes to the overall war. You don't see that in WoW.
That's right. All this rhetoric here are just opinions. His, yours, mine, ours. Opinions, nothing more, nothing less. His hold no more weight than yours. But when you start spouting off and using phrases like "you're in the minority" and "I have it on authority" to get your opinion across as gospel, then you just look ridiculous.
And by the way anyone who uses the phrase "I have it on authority"... Usually doesn't.
just like religion lolbut yeah WAR is a RVR based game but it will have very...very strong PVE elements in the game and those who say the ToK is just like the Xbox system of achivements are wrong yes similar but ToK is a lot more
I agree with mot everything but....PotBS. Really? ick.
If we were talking about the game rather than the company, I would agree as well.Fantastic soundtrack and music though.
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I agree with mot everything but....PotBS. Really? ick.
If we were talking about the game rather than the company, I would agree as well.Fantastic soundtrack and music though.
Upon further reflection, I think I'd like to agree with you about Flying Labs but along the way, you really do have to quality that company as having had some success too.
FLS did handle managing their fans with the constant revisions and they dealt with the anti-SOE NGE vet crowd well but they didn't necessarily do themselves any favors by taking the stance of "no crying in the red circle" although they're reversing that now which is good. Regardless, every other vendor mentioned is arguably a quality company but also delivered a quality game. Getting a bunch of cool coders into the same room doesn't necessarily make them a quality company if they can't deliver and I think most would agree that PotBS isn't that and therefore you can't lumpt FLS with them.
they want to rely on their ubar pvp skillzorz which usually consist of low latency, outgearing their enemies and smashing buttons as fast as possible. they wont like slow combat
sadly
EA Mythic = Mythic Entertainment, creators of Dark Age of Camelot.
Like said I'd add Square-Enix to the list. While I don't care for what they did with FFXI it is still a very solid and quality game.
Puhleeze! NCSOFT?! Lineage II ring a bell? Complete and utter piece of trash and one of the biggest flops at that. NCSOFT is no different from Funcom, as far as I'm concerned.
No. I've played every mmo out there and I can safely say that Mythic and Blizzard are the best at what they do.
you must be joking, while i have tried Lineage II and decided it wasn't my style and wasn't for me, you cannot argue the fact that Lineage I & II were some of the most successful MMORPG's of their time.
Successfull yes, Quality a big NO. Successfull does not = Quality.
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This is a little kiddie tread my game is better than yours this company is better than yours. Come on people what is the purpose of this tread if that company is not paying you money. Why should you care what company is better than what this topic is pointless.
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Puhleeze! NCSOFT?! Lineage II ring a bell? Complete and utter piece of trash and one of the biggest flops at that. NCSOFT is no different from Funcom, as far as I'm concerned.
No. I've played every mmo out there and I can safely say that Mythic and Blizzard are the best at what they do.
L2 is no way a flop
it has 2 million subs
And most of them are in Asia, and a good deal of the ones here are likely gold-spammers.
Regardless, they still count as they are players who like and play the game. As far as Euro and U.S. players, L2 has a very hard core following. They even had to open up a new Euro server. Just because people don't like something doesn't mean that it isn't a good game.
Now that doesn't mean that the L2 dev's don't have their issues but L2, within the scope of what it is, is a very decent game.
NcSoft Does some good stuff but they have some issues that seem to stem from them being a Korean company. If people would like to explore that, just do some research of other Korean companies that have offices overseas and how they treat the managment and workers. There is a "my way or the highway" mentality and they have many times laid off management with no notice because they wanted to clean house. But I digress...
I also think Turbine does a decent job. Whether one agrees with how they have developed a game is another thing. You have to look at what they intended to do and if they succeeded.
And whether or not people like it or not, SOE has done a decent job with EQII. I think that, though I don't agree with many of their design decisions or artistic decisions, that it is a fine game as it is today.
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How are people dissing EA.. EA is a good company...
They are super super extreme rich..
They make good sports game..
They even made the best shooting game out there "Call of duty MODW"
They are publishing war online they are awsome so warhammer will never ever fail.. because they got the backup money from them :P
Blizzard and CCP, while I don't like EVE but I respect their work on the game, doing something new and basically making it with hardly any money and if it failed they were all on the streets.
Mythic still have to prove themselves.
well everyone is entitled to an opinion ofcourse and so are the OP.. however I like Blizzard but there is many good gaming company only because the OP digs WoW and WAR doesn't mean it's the only good companies.
Sony did not develop Everquest. Verant developed and ran the Everquest MMO until Sony bought Verant.
Bonus question: What was the name of the company before it changed to Verant?Sony did not develop Everquest. Verant developed and ran the Everquest MMO until Sony bought Verant.
Anyone?
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
That isn't it either. Everquest was originally developed by a company called 989 Studios.
War is WOW and yeah i know WAR was first in the gaming world but WOW beat them to the MMORPG world there is nothing i see in WAR that doesnt look the same exact thing as wow. if they want to beat wow they will have to do good updates every month because WOW has a hard time doing this because they could care less.
You seem to have missed the point of the game. They're not making a game to beat WoW - anyone setting out to do that is an idiot. Their game has an entirely different focus. You should play WAR because you want RvR, not because you want it to beat WoW's amount of PvE raid dungeons.
Bonus question: What was the name of the company before it changed to Verant?Sony did not develop Everquest. Verant developed and ran the Everquest MMO until Sony bought Verant.
Anyone?
They emerged from 989 Studios (formerly Sony Interactive Studios).
That isn't it either. Everquest was originally developed by a company called 989 Studios.
Google could be someones friend... *hint* SISA where Smedley originally worked (Sony Interactive Studio's America) began EQ1's development in 1996... that studio was later renamed to 989 Studio's and eventually to Redeye <forget the second name> and then Verant (which was an independent developer of EQ from early 1999 until 2000 when Sony re-aquired Verant. Since EQ launched in March of 1999.. there wouldn't have been a whole hell of a lot of development time when Sony didn't own the studio developing the game.
^^ That's actually meant for Thorwood.
Anyway as to what got me into this thread...
WAR will probably do just fine in the MMO market.
I just found it rather odd that someone used EA and trust in the same sentence. btw OP have you logged into DAoC lately? Or checked camelotherald.com to see the "high online population" since the EA mandated changes to DAoC..
might give you an idea for WAR and EA's greatness.
*hint* before EA aquired Mythic the average high online population was still in the 60,000 range.. not 3500.. or less.. oh and yes the reason I left was due to the idiot changes after EA bought mythic. That's just my perspective tho.
I never knew about 989 Studios. Wikipedia says 989 Studios was actually owned by Sony, so I was wrong. The Everquest part of 989 Studios split off as an independent company, Verant Interactive. Everquest launched in March 1999. Sony bought Verant Interactive in late 1999.
The Wikipedia listings under Everquest, Verant and 989 Studios give slightly different accounts of the company splits and purchases.
they want to rely on their ubar pvp skillzorz which usually consist of low latency, outgearing their enemies and smashing buttons as fast as possible. they wont like slow combat
sh7yuyhjugtfrswthyjuirt5f4y7u8sadly
I just owned someone in wow using a warlock/rogue/warrior. WAR wont have that. From what theyve shown you have to keep up with what you cast as you get into spell tiers.
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Puhleeze! NCSOFT?! Lineage II ring a bell? Complete and utter piece of trash and one of the biggest flops at that. NCSOFT is no different from Funcom, as far as I'm concerned.
No. I've played every mmo out there and I can safely say that Mythic and Blizzard are the best at what they do.
L2 is no way a flop
it has 2 million subs
And most of them are in Asia, and a good deal of the ones here are likely gold-spammers.
Regardless, they still count as they are players who like and play the game. As far as Euro and U.S. players, L2 has a very hard core following. They even had to open up a new Euro server. Just because people don't like something doesn't mean that it isn't a good game.
Now that doesn't mean that the L2 dev's don't have their issues but L2, within the scope of what it is, is a very decent game.
NcSoft Does some good stuff but they have some issues that seem to stem from them being a Korean company. If people would like to explore that, just do some research of other Korean companies that have offices overseas and how they treat the managment and workers. There is a "my way or the highway" mentality and they have many times laid off management with no notice because they wanted to clean house. But I digress...
Good, stable games backed up by a company that shows that they truly care about their game? I'd go for Mythic, Blizzard, and whoever the hell runs CoX (Cryptic first, NCSoft later). Whatever. In the end it doesn't matter who we pick, because they don't pick us personally as their customers. So unless you're being paid, then there's no relevant point to be made in saying that X company is better than Y.