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ENOUGH of Fantasy MMOs!

ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

Gah! I can see it no more! I mean, I love fantasy like any other, I played my lot of them, but gawd, if I see one more elves and wizards world I am going to yell. Why is it we all get the same over and over again. MORE wizards and paladins and elves and whatnot. All just copy cats.

I just finished Mass Effect the PC version, and along with Star Wars, Star Trek, Babylon 5, Asimovs Empire, Traveller or WHATEVER Sci-Fi world ever made, there are SO many COOL Sci-Fi universes, and blast it there is only lame old SWG, a number of shooters like TR & Planescape, and a space-only thing like EVE, which also isnt my pair of shoes. I mean, why is it apparently so difficult to make a space/Sci-Fi based game with open planets, like the old SWG was, think like EQ2 or WOW or what with Sci-Fi.

Why? I dont get it. I have seen enough Wizards and Elves and Battelaxes. I damn want a blaster and a spaceship, cool, ugly, weird alien races and places to see, something NEW, and not Aoc, WAR and whatever they are all called can go where the sun doesnt shine. No more fantasy!

Say it all out loud. ;)

'Kay, just had to say it.

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  • SyNn3rSyNn3r Member UncommonPosts: 35

    Feeling the same here. If it's gonna be fantasy at least make up some new races, creatures weapons and stuff, not just knights, monks and dragons.

    Fantasy MMO is still popular, but like you, I also feel the need for something new, something fresh, something with unexplicable high-tech weapons of mass destruction

  • Jerid13Jerid13 Member Posts: 465

    Originally posted by Elikal


    Gah! I can see it no more! I mean, I love fantasy like any other, I played my lot of them, but gawd, if I see one more elves and wizards world I am going to yell. Why is it we all get the same over and over again. MORE wizards and paladins and elves and whatnot. All just copy cats.
    I just finished Mass Effect the PC version, and along with Star Wars, Star Trek, Babylon 5, Asimovs Empire, Traveller or WHATEVER Sci-Fi world ever made, there are SO many COOL Sci-Fi universes, and blast it there is only lame old SWG, a number of shooters like TR & Planescape, and a space-only thing like EVE, which also isnt my pair of shoes. I mean, why is it apparently so difficult to make a space/Sci-Fi based game with open planets, like the old SWG was, think like EQ2 or WOW or what with Sci-Fi.
    Why? I dont get it. I have seen enough Wizards and Elves and Battelaxes. I damn want a blaster and a spaceship, cool, ugly, weird alien races and places to see, something NEW, and not Aoc, WAR and whatever they are all called can go where the sun doesnt shine. No more fantasy!
    Say it all out loud. ;)
    'Kay, just had to say it.
     

    Frankly there are a million other stories besides the one JRR Tolkien wrote.

    Stop ripping him off, find a new idea.

  • DrSpankyDrSpanky Member Posts: 341

    Unlike most folks here (I would assume anyway) I'm not tired of fantasy. Don't think I ever will be, but there is something to be said for variety and a few more sci-fi mmorpgs couldn't hurt.

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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    How about a wastelands type MMO? Fallout style?

  • friedslugfriedslug Member Posts: 4

    Here Here! Couldn't agree more. No more fairy wands for me for along time.  There are so many directions MMOs could go. More Sci-Fi is a good starting place, others could include Western style doesn't necessarily have to be an exact replica of the Old West, alternate worlds would take care of that, another could be based on the 1920-30's gangster style again soup'd up to make it a game.

    Only see Stargate, EarthRise and Fallen Earth(if ever released) look like promising titles.

  • DeadlyMageDeadlyMage Member Posts: 543

    i dotn mind fantasy but if they could make up so new races. that would be cool

  • noxxnoxx Member UncommonPosts: 120

    I agree ....i am more of a scifi fan though i have played almost everthing since eq came out.....would love to see blizzard turn starcraft into a mmorpg.....also waiting on stargate....

  • vala2008vala2008 Member Posts: 229

    I imagine a lot of us agree with you on this point, i am a bit drawn out on the fantasy genre and really look to some nice space mmo. I really think WAR missed the boat here. They could have created an awesome game and developed the space mmo PvP with a MMO 40,000. I would so love to play an Eldar or an awesome Space Marine or Terminator, I think that the World of Starcraft will be the ones to set the stage again and we will see a repeat of history. Anyway i have a little hope for Earthrise as it sounds like a Fallout MMO which would be a nice change.

    Anyone remender the table top role play game called EarthDawn...thats a game I would love to see as a mmo, ...you never know:)

  • aleosaleos Member UncommonPosts: 1,943
    Originally posted by Xasapis

    How about a wastelands type MMO? Fallout style?

    "Fallen Earth" Id say Anarchy online. definatly dated but i still think it's fun. Also i agree, to many fantasy MMO's i want some sci-fi!
  • kidRiotkidRiot Member Posts: 209

    Originally posted by DeadlyMage


    i dotn mind fantasy but if they could make up so new races. that would be cool
    Aye.   Me thinks Shadowbane.  Fantasy with different races.

     

    We need something like that again.

  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    Go to Hi-Rez studios and check out their MMO Global Agenda. Their using the unreal 3 engine and it looks amazing. Fantasy has been overplayed for some time now.

  • mike470mike470 General CorrespondentMember Posts: 2,396

    Personally, I don't mind fantasy.  What I do mind is fantasy with no new content, like WoW and l2 clones.  Those are what I am tired of seeing.  I don't care if it's fantasy as long as it's different.

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  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515
    Originally posted by Vendayn


    I've never really liked any sci-fi MMO...the only MMOs I've liked are Fantasy...actually, the only books I read are Fantasy as well...I'll never get tired of it. I've tried reading Sci-fi book, but they just don't grab me like the Fantasy ones do.
     
    I hope a good Sci-fi mmo comes out for those who like them, that would be great to add to the MMO population, I'm not dragging down Sci-fi MMOs, since there is a fanbase for them...but from what I've seen, Fantasy is more popular so more Fantasy MMOs will come out. That could also be because there haven't been very good Sci-fi MMOs...but so far, all the Fantasy MMOs are a lot more popular than the Sci-fi ones. That isn't counting WoW...but the other Fantasy MMOs.

    Actually what ive seen is developers making WoW and Lineage fantasy clones because they know people like those games. The fact there are fewer Sci-fi games is more the fact that games Like WoW happened to be fantasy not Sci-Fi.

    Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  • Flyte27Flyte27 Member RarePosts: 4,574

    I really have trouble getting into sci-fi stuff games.  The only one I like is Star Wars because it has Jedi which is somewhat magical even though it's in the future.  I don't like games devoid of magic much.  Magic is the fun part.  I do believe that some of the fun aspects has been taken out of fantasy games.  A lot of it is to balence classes and some of it is because having the latest graphics takes away from what the Devs can do with a MMO.  Also devs are a bit scared of making a game to hard as there are lots of games that people can jump ship to.  It would be neat if mages actually had powerful spells once they got to high level like in old D&D.  There were lots of neat things mages could do in that game.  The trade off should be they are fragile and are limited in the number of spells they can cast in a short period of time.  I really like the holy trinity concept.  I notice as games move away from it every class starts to have the same feel.  Everyones role is DPS.  I would prefer the tank to protect everyone, the rogue to sneak around, disarm traps, steal, backstap, the healer to actually heal and maybe some CC, and lesser DPS, and other neat spells like water breathing, and the mage to range DPS, debuff, CC, neat spells like levitation, etc.  Everyone gets to do something different instead of everyone being just DPS for the most part.  Add neat little spells like water breathing for under water dungeons, levitation to get to unreachable areas, illusion to trick NPCs into letting you into their city, etc.

  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515
    Originally posted by Flyte27


     

    I disagree Sci-Fi games can have plenty of 'Magic' in them [its just not called Magic], some examples could include implants that give you more accurate sight faster running speed higher jumps and super strength [and even flight]. Another example is PSI powers the ability to manipulate objects with your mind or to destroy them with lightning bolts or fireballs or maddening hallucinations and illusions.

    Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361

    Sometimes its because a sci-fi game has to make sense when it comes to basic science or else developers will get complaints from schools and anything that has to do with education so they just make fantasies cuz they can pretty much do anything they want with it.  Like in Mass Effect bioware realy did their research in basic and quantum physics and they even explain all the science stuff in the codex.  For instance they used electromagnetism as a big part of the story.  But most developers do not take the risky way like bioware instead just make whatever is more popular in the market.  And right now whats popular in the mmo world is fantasy cuz of WoW.

  • Flyte27Flyte27 Member RarePosts: 4,574
    Originally posted by HYPERI0N

    Originally posted by Flyte27


     

    I disagree Sci-Fi games can have plenty of 'Magic' in them [its just not called Magic], some examples could include implants that give you more accurate sight faster running speed higher jumps and super strength [and even flight]. Another example is PSI powers the ability to manipulate objects with your mind or to destroy them with lightning bolts or fireballs or maddening hallucinations and illusions.



    It's not the same as magic even though it's a good point.  I guess I just prefer the fantasy magic "especially old 2nd edition D&D style magic".

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    Originally posted by HYPERI0N

    Originally posted by Flyte27


     

    I disagree Sci-Fi games can have plenty of 'Magic' in them [its just not called Magic], some examples could include implants that give you more accurate sight faster running speed higher jumps and super strength [and even flight]. Another example is PSI powers the ability to manipulate objects with your mind or to destroy them with lightning bolts or fireballs or maddening hallucinations and illusions.

    Ya but the catch is they suppose to explain how it works when it comes to science and the writers cant just bullshit.  Like in star wars the force comes from little organisms called Midichlorines ( I think thats how they spell it).  If they bullshit then theres a chance schools will complain.

  • DrShiZaYDrShiZaY Member Posts: 57

    I'd like to see an MMO based on a similar universe as John Steakley's: Armor.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armor_(novel)


    Armor is the story of humanity's war against an alien race whose foot soldiers are three-meter-tall insects. It is also the story of a research colony on the fringes of human territory who are threatened by pirates. The two sub-plots intersect at the end, with each providing answers and insight into events of the other.

    The title most obviously refers to the nuclear-powered exoskeletons worn by the soldiers, but also references the emotional armor the protagonists maintain to survive.


     

  • DeadlyMageDeadlyMage Member Posts: 543

    id love an mmo based on the drenai series by david gemmel.

     

    wahhhh

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    fantasy wasnt so popular before wow,even when there wasnt online

    one game ruled it was final fantasy 

    sci-fi need imagination injection

    maybe blizzard will go on that turn next to show eve online and all how to make a great game

    hell if starcraft was an mmorpd sc-fi i d go there lol but strategy game isnt my can of soup

    cudo to eve cause they are in a league of their own but its too complex style for me

  • DeadlyMageDeadlyMage Member Posts: 543
    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    fantasy wasnt so popular before wow,even when there wasnt online
    one game ruled it was final fantasy 
    sci-fi need imagination injection
    maybe blizzard will go on that turn next to show eve online and all how to make a great game
    hell if starcraft was an mmorpd sc-fi i d go there lol but strategy game isnt my can of soup
    cudo to eve cause they are in a league of their own but its too complex style for me

    before wow all mmo had been fantasy based.

  • GormandYGormandY Member Posts: 411

    Eh, im fine with both.... but I really like fantasy / medieval a lot more.

  • GormandYGormandY Member Posts: 411

     

    Originally posted by DeadlyMage

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    fantasy wasnt so popular before wow,even when there wasnt online
    one game ruled it was final fantasy 
    sci-fi need imagination injection
    maybe blizzard will go on that turn next to show eve online and all how to make a great game
    hell if starcraft was an mmorpd sc-fi i d go there lol but strategy game isnt my can of soup
    cudo to eve cause they are in a league of their own but its too complex style for me

    before wow all mmo had been fantasy based.

     

    WRONG...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetside

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  • DeadlyMageDeadlyMage Member Posts: 543

     

    Originally posted by GormandY


     
    Originally posted by DeadlyMage

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    fantasy wasnt so popular before wow,even when there wasnt online
    one game ruled it was final fantasy 
    sci-fi need imagination injection
    maybe blizzard will go on that turn next to show eve online and all how to make a great game
    hell if starcraft was an mmorpd sc-fi i d go there lol but strategy game isnt my can of soup
    cudo to eve cause they are in a league of their own but its too complex style for me

    before wow all mmo had been fantasy based.

     

    WRONG...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetside

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    omg...one sci-fi mmo.....

     

     

    out of the other few dozen fantasy

    ALSO PLANETESIDE IS A MMOFPS.....SO PLZ....DON TRY IT

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