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Retail release date and pricing announced, this is NOT a f2p game.
Nacireen
Member Posts: 11
They announced the end of the open beta tonight and with it the retail release date and pricing/features of what they call a premium account. It's more like the only playable version of the account while you get the most gimpified free version I ever heard of as an unlimited time trial account. They still feel the need to call it free to play but they are going so far as to even limit the chat of free players. Anyone not subscribing will only have access to chat with people within a few meters of you ingame, with a single person via pm's, with the party you are currently in, or with your guild. There is no open chat at all open to free players to ask questions, look for groups, etc. To make matters worse by default the "local" chat is turned off when you are listening to guild chat or even party chat so most of the time even if you are standing next to a paying player they won't hear you ask for a group.
This is not the worst of the news however, they have NO content past level 40 in the game at all, which can be reached by playing even moderate amounts in under a week, even faster since premium accounts get an xp boost. Oh and while getting to 40 you will be plagued with broken quests, stats that don't work (very few of them do anything really), graphics that are very prone to glitches and even on the beefiest systems have unacceptable levels of lag, half translated quests for the ones that do work, overlapping descriptions on skills so you can't really read what they do at all, etc... It's a staggering list of what's wrong with this game, but during the entire beta phase (I was in both closed and open betas) not ONE serious bug we reported has been fixed. They did a few text edits on some quests once in closed beta, but the open beta release put them back to the messed up versions. And now suddenly they are ready for release and premium users...
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Well, i don't know whats so bad to make free user accounts unplayable, premium account gains 50% more exp, 30% more drops, 1 death penalty instead of 4 and being able to use region chat...so what? They will lvl faster but what did you hope? and the drops are for everyone...more drops...more items for sale, cheaper stuff.
I don't know what there will be in the item mall but...people who use to buy from it would rather spend 15$ or 8$ for basic on a montly bonus other than 5$ for silly scrolls that increase ur exp for a few of hours.
People playing for free will lvl almost as fast as in the OB and getting the same drops and even lant drop will be better, so i don't get your complains since you have been playing almost as a free user until now...all because free users won't use region chat? god bless them! it was spamming chat for noobs.
So from my point of view i think premium and basic service is awsome.
Another thing is that they won't keep the game as it is now, it would be retarded and there will be a surprise in the released version, not everything will be perfect and polished but it will be by far better fixed than currently is. A new race is comming, not by the release date but it will be there soon. I might be wrong but they wont just release the game as it is now, that they didn't release new content for the OB doesn't mean they don't have it for the release.
I'm gonna give it a chance before flame, as no one knows how the released version will be.
Btw it's a F2P game, but maybe you have never seen a premium service before.
People playing for free will level 25% slower than OB according to the GMs, that however I could care less about, and I agree premium should have advantages such as the higher xp/drops and even the 3 day head start. The problem I have is that the so called free players can't use region chat. You dismiss this out of hand but it is a HUGE deal, especially since one of the quests you will hit before even getting your first job REQUIRES a group. No region chat seriously hurts you in that respect. In every mmorpg there is some form of chat for the current map/zone and none I've ever heard of restricted that to paying players, it's a basic game feature NOT a perk. Now a true global chat that worked across maps would be a perfect idea for premium, limiting free players to local chat that doesn't even work as far as you can actually see, and which by default is even turned off in most chat modes is not just a bad idea it's a game breaker.
well i expected this. all there other games a p2p
Basic Package: $7.99 a month
Premium Package: $14.99 a month
here are the prices
I wish it would just go full p2p
My god has horns.... nah, I don't think he is real either.
I dont see why any one would pay for this game lol its not better than rappelz archlord and some other F2p games out there. it totally lacks content and even special items , drop rate is really bad as is and when you do get a drop 90% of the itme its shop food crap. You can spend lots and lots of time trying to get armor for say lvl 40 and you will be lvl 45 by the time you get all the parts and have to start gringing for the next set of gear . most of the random mobs give crap for exp you can kill mob lvl 47 here and get 1k exp or kill lvl 47 mob over there and get 5k exp totally stupid 80% of the mobs around give low exp.
No customization at all, every one looks the same. for a game thats supose to be bloody you will see people running around is some yellow and pink armors such a pain to look at. i have a feeling the population is going to drop and its going to be sad when you pay for prem lvl up so fast there is no one to play with.
Still, with that 25% drop in experience leveling will be "fast" compared to the rest of F2P games, there are many 50+ and 55+ at the moment in the open beta when not even 1 month has passed since it oppened, so 25% drop in exp won't really be a matter. Don't forget that yes...they will drop the exp a 25%, but premium gives 50%...so premium users will gain about the same exp as you get now during the OB, they simply recover that 25% lost.
About the region chat...yes it sucks for finding a group, but if you are in a guild and knowing some people you couldn't care less about it. And no, you don't need group for first job change quest, people simply use pots. I'm sure they removed the region chat from free users because of the real spamming, it was painful and most of the time people just disabled it, so maybe give thanks to the noobs who fucked up that channel during the OB. Maybe there will be something to find group for free users or a way to shout in region channel such as a consumable or paying lant for example. If you don't get premium or basic you can even get a friend who has it to shout for you.
At least the region channel doesn't matter to me, plus if they make the released version much better compared to the OB (more content and such) i wouldn't mind paying a Basic or Premium service.
In every F2P people who spend more money is the one with the most advantage, but if requiem doesn't fuck it with the cash shop it will be an awsome game, as premium service it's simply great as it is now.
Edit to say that i've just read that general chat is going to have more range so people can look for party in the same area without the need of using region chat
Well, have you guys even played the premium version before you posted your thoughts here? Remember, it was said that what you get in OB is not always what you get in a final release. Play premium and then post your gripes.
As my wise daddy always told me, you don't need to eat shit to know it taste bad.
As my wise daddy always told me, you don't need to eat shit to know it taste bad.
I have to agree with Zorvan’s dad. We can be optimistic and say they’ll fix any bugs, clean up the mislabeled quests, and maybe add a few more quests. But I have a hard time believing this game is going to change in any drastic way.
It’s a fun game that I’ve spent plenty of hours playing. But this game just doesn’t seem like the kind of game that can ask for $15 a month to play.
Please dont post false information on this site.I have the official requiem site saying that basic and premium are just add ons you will get to buy stuff from item mall and so on just clikc on the link.
http://www.playrequiem.com/news/eventDetail.aspx?num=10#10
Butterfly effect
there are three deals.
free
basi
and platinum
there are three deals.
free
basi
and platinum
True that.I think that the basic and the premium packs will really mess the ganme up for players wo wont be paying the free one.
I mean this game will get unbalanced but I guess its not for me to judge.
Atleast Not Yet.
Butterfly effect
Well the freebie players don't deserve bonuses.
That is why they can play for free....
If you think the free package is so bad, get a job and pay some money.
My god has horns.... nah, I don't think he is real either.
Look around at the games are pay to play quality, and then honestly try to argue that this game is of the same caliber.
It does not matter what quality it is.
People are playing it and a good bit like it.
And beside that I'm stating a free player should not expect the same bonuses as a paying player, no matter what game.
My god has horns.... nah, I don't think he is real either.
Probably a good decission for Gravity, but you can't transform a F2P game into a P2P one right at release, I played it intensely on beta, and it doesn't match the P2P games standards in terms of polish and content, nor customer support.
However, if so many people enjoy it and are ok with the P2P model, then maybe the game might improve and become P2P worthy due to the influx of money, it has some interesting concepts behind the poor gameplay displayed until now, which means room for improvement, but one would expect a bit more from the guys who became rich with silkroad tbh.
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Wow the flame threads are here too, seems like the announcement of the package deals have a few people irritated.
Ok the game has bugs, so has every other MMO that has come out on release day that I have played, and we had to go out and BUY the game on top of opening a paid subscription. So why is Requiem all of a sudden the bad boy because they give OPTIONS for packages. Do people honestly think these games and servers are self-sustaining and require no money to keep up the maintenance. Wow can I get directions to the never-never land some are living in, I think I wanna visit.
Bottom line is Requiem is still in beta, they will have a few days to mush what bugs they can and catch the rest after its out. I have played about every other F2P game and all of them although fun lack any kind of coherent play. Requiem has some fresh ideas, I like the game and will give it some time to see where the rabbit hole leads.
mu online do the same deal. and its doing pretty well.
i prefer this over cash shop items.
i think that paying customers should have exclusive servers aswell
IMO the game is worth the $15. I'd like for them to sell game disc at retail store.
Pats let Manning win.
I don't have much interest in the release. It's a rushed product. What I've seen of it in CB and OB is that its a nice start but lacking in substance. Even if they do manage to squash 90% of the bugs there's no real horror, the blood effect is weak and there are many aspects of the game that just don't seem very interactive.
And as for pay-for-play content, the game designers lack imagination. Instead of creating balance issues that penalize free customers, the smart move would have been to keep the playing field balanced while offering premium content. We know there's going to be a 4th race, why not make it premium? Or we know that quests that prevent levelling is a major hassle. So let premium users skip them. And so on. Things that make premium worth buying but don't lead to vocal wars between paying and non-paying customers.