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Darkfall's Official Forums - Is That Really the Community?
I had heard about Darkfall and thought that it sounded like my ideal MMO. Then I learned about the constant delays, and like a lot of people, I began to wonder if it was ever going to get released. I had decided to wait until the end of the year, before casting my judgement of them.
However, I have just visited the official forums on the Darkfall web-site, and I am shocked about what I saw there.
First of all, there seemed to be a strange absence of criticism. For a game that has had the history of Darkfall, I thought that was a bit suspicious. Then I looked further. Whenever I came upon a thread with a legitimate question, i.e. 'I hope this game is released soon', they are instantly flamed by dozens of very offensive posts. You really have to see it to believe it.
If this is the level of maturity of the community, then I won't be playing. I was really looking forward to playing this game, but not if that is the type of people who will be making up the community.
I am hoping that this is just representive of people who write in their forums, and not the eventual playing public. Probably wishful thinking, something you have to do a lot of it seems whenever DF is involved,
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So you found that the question
"i hope DarkFall will release soon"
as being the most legitimate over there in DarkFall forums.
Assume that the info given in the last journal about DarkFall release within this year is a shocking piece of info for you then ?
So take again your time and think about the question again and how smart the question is to make a topic out of it.
take your time , thinking isn't all that bad...
But seems you take allways the simple way to me, like now bashing the whole community..easy and cheap ..gladly for me to hear that i will have no cantact in game with you..keep stay away please...
"I hope darkfall will release soon" isn't actually a question at all. In fact if someone were to ask the question... "I hope darkfall will release soon?" I'd probably flame him too if he couldn't figure out what he does and does not hope for.
All official forums are like that. Thats why this site is a much better place to hang out.
The DF "community" (or Forumfall) have been around for many years. And four times every week some one askes about release date, full PvP or full loot.
Nothing wronmg with that, but you need to be prepared to fight for your thread. Just bite back with the same force as you got from them.
Still many Forumfall members think its too many carebears there right now. They did even write a angry letter about it.
Like most "games" I could honestly care less if they get released or not. Sure there are some games that I would really like to see and or play but I never lose any sleep over them if they never see the light of day. I mean they're just games after all.
But after reading through some of the forums on this site and others I would have to say imo many, not all DF fans are some of the most defensive, immature and delusional folks around.
Interesting. There are a number of embeded search features in the darkfall forums, the level of patience is low as questions that are being asked are repeated and basic so there is not much tolerance for lazyness.Something that frustrates me as well but the site likes to discuss new content constructivley anything that is not new should be discussed in the newbie forums not the main ones it is expected that people do a little research.
What sort of thread is 'I hope this game is released soon' , it is the sort of flame thread these forums see day in day out. Contribute and add nothing to the discussion, other than an I wish statement. Well thought out posts and new topics get a very good response and good debate. The example thread you have listed above is an example of the opposite, when you have a lot of people who have been waiting a long time for a game they follow and with the current lack of detail coming from the developers there isn't a lot to discuss.
Dig a little deeper and you will see a lot of discussion and constructive criticism if you are interested.
As for the community as any it is what you make of it and I for one, based on the features listed to be in the game at release and game world size. Expect to find a lot of pleasant people to game with, who have enough backbone to deal with the "unpleasant player types".
The tone of your post shows you have very little faith in DF, so in reality I guess the community would look at in you in a similar way you judge all of them and wish you luck outside of DF.
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
This site just has entertainment value, pretty much all round. But as far as serious debates it just isn't worth the effort.
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Look at the context of care with respect to DF and then think about why you are here posting.
I guess you do care...
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
*sigh* everyone knows that the community is totally made up by Tasos in an attempt to garner MORE money from his investors!
I mean, what, they've had a community since 1999? I mean come on!!!!
jk...of course
It's a proven historical fact that beer saved humankind.
Oh Joy Darkfall will finally be out, live, fully feature complete in less then 6 more months I can hardly wait!
Too bad for you , you have to stick with someone like Tasos, cause the companys who are not after "MORE money from investors" ignores and deny to implement the playstyle you looking forward to.
jk...of course
too 
Look at the context of care with respect to DF and then think about why you are here posting.
I guess you do care...
lol... Ya fit into exactly what I'm saying in my post.Oh don't get me wrong I care to the degree of the entertainment value of the verbal riposte and the semantics that get bantered around. But as far as the game or any game for that matter, I have more important things to care about.
But keep on trying to read me there champ
Oh come on, that question is ridiculas and just annoying, OF COURSE WE WANT IT TO RELEASE SOON, flippin idiot, of course it will take time for the game to be any good, we dont want it pushed out the door like most mmorpgs. Anyways , how can you compare forum community to in game community... look at wow for instance, i gaurantee you over half the players dont even look at their game forums. A community will always have flamers, ass holes, idiots you name it. No way to AVOID IT, so get over that ideal ONLINE game play without all those annoying idiot flamers, AND i bet you all have been one of those at one point or another for even just a second.
Its easy to pee in the toilet, but most of us dont.
This site just has entertainment value, pretty much all round. But as far as serious debates it just isn't worth the effort.
Amen, tho I can't understand why folks act with such immaturity. Or is it nerds that think he/she is badass when trashing around in game forums? Are they're getting their ass kicked on daily bases and need to let the frustration out here?
Speculation is our friend
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Ah your post is insulting, and has just the right touch of egotistical rightousness. Way to make friends and influence enemies!Oh Joy Darkfall will finally be out, live, fully feature complete in less then 6 more months I can hardly wait!
If my is insulting yours too, way to makes friends my "friend"
I repeat it if you like it, fullheartdly , people like OP who make a thread out for bashing the whole community and with THAT weak point i am happy to not find them in game and i am not happy to see you in game either
Can i encourage you with something to make official statement that you will stay away from game please ?
Have already stated that if it would be on me and i had the power several "poster" here would receive a life-ban from game.
This site just has entertainment value, pretty much all round. But as far as serious debates it just isn't worth the effort.
Amen, tho I can't understand why folks act with such immaturity. Or is it nerds that think he/she is badass when trashing around in game forums? Are they're getting their ass kicked on daily bases and need to let the frustration out here?
Speculation is our friend
Assesment would be good to build a model for base statements upon.
Have a theory about so if noone minds.
The non-supporter are a non-uniform "group" of poster here. The only think they have in common is the perceive Darkfall developers and development always negative and they have time to care about and post on the forum.
But the degree of "be informed about what i hate" varies to extremes. From a very good informed critic to mindless trolls.
Aswell as the "how i express my negativity" varies to extremes. From the well put critical analysis to the know "DF is vAporVaReZ" post.
I guess that they are a few critics who really spend much time in DF and participate DF development and there is the mass of trash poster , that not intrested in DF , they maybe fans of other MMO's who just like to see DF failing and / or trolls who see fun in trash talk DF and people who support it.
It would be difficult to collect some serious data here so my theory has to remain vague i am afraid.
You should have seen the AOC forums before launch. Anyone with the least bit of criticism was crucified.
Of course now that the game has been released, all of the trolls have been proven correct.
Not quite.... But the troll infestation is highly containable and spreads easily to each forum.
The only thing the trolls proved, were their own stupidity, not to mention many of them didn't even play it, how to smash their own creditability.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I was gonna say that it had with the ffa pvp and full loot that attracted them.. Looking at "Mortal Online" s forum, if those kind of people are in the game.. then i'm out.
Im thinking about the "many forumfall members think its too many carebears there right now"...
I know you are not the voice of DF comunity, and I dont even know for sure if you are part of this community, but can you explain this "too many carebears" to me?
I may be wrong, but it sound like the most stupid and non sense elitist example I ever saw in a game community, and I already found a lot of stupidity in every MMO I played.
I cant belive this Im a "tuff" guy in a game exists and a community of players agree with it.
Devs should go against this kind of attitude in every game.
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Im thinking about the "many forumfall members think its too many carebears there right now"...
I know you are not the voice of DF comunity, and I dont even know for sure if you are part of this community, but can you explain this "too many carebears" to me?
I may be wrong, but it sound like the most stupid and non sense elitist example I ever saw in a game community, and I already found a lot of stupidity in every MMO I played.
I cant belive this Im a "tuff" guy in a game exists and a community of players agree with it.
Devs should go against this kind of attitude in every game.
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Do not listen to that guy lol, of course some people cry about "carebears" but the people really interested in the game( and every guild) knows that they will need these "carebears" because EVERYTHING in the game is crafted. That is what is so great about darkfall, it will not be a "pvp only" game by any stretch of the imagination. Merchants and crafters (aka "carebears") can and most likely will be some of the most powerful and rich people in the game.
Why would you be surprised? A game like this attracts mostly degenerates.
Full loot upon death? = bully griefing gankers galore.
Welcome to DarkFall forum
(i like it how you tried hard not to include yourself to the group you refer to LOL )
First of all like Ghost said it before almost all offical boards are like that.. but in the case of darkfall there is another reason for it. Look, that game is a long time in development, and a lot of ppl interested in this game visited and participated in the forum a long time ago, but now are bored to talk about the same thing all over again, so they now lurk just or participate off topic, but not more. And just the board warriors are the last one there, ever discussing and flaming each other.. so you cant expect much else there.
Look, i personally registered there a long time ago, and those ages ago it was a lot to discuss about different things, and things which could and have changed in the game, but now everything is set in stone, and i just wait for the beginning of beta and release.. and maybe some interesting information. So i just drop by every few weeks to check the news section.. and i personally guess the majority are like me, and if i read through the board it is really rarely that i see veterans posting something.. but they are there, as much as i am. So no.. the nowadays DF board posters are not the representative community.
The majority of Darkfall’s official forum community is a Frankenstein abomination in my opinion, Aventurine have created a monster after years of mismanagement and they are going to have to deal with it one way or another eventually.
I stopped my interaction in 2005 because in my opinion it was no longer productive to be an active participant any longer, and I would argue the developers themselves share my attitude considering the relative stark absence of their presence in comparison to earlier times in the game’s development.
In my opinion the only people who defend the behavior of the majority of the community are the people who still participate in said community, so they obviously are not objective and are part of the problem and not the solution.