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F2P within 24-36 months.
Shannia
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IMHO, AoC will be a F2P game in 24-36 months with EIDOS taking advantage of #5 in the your EULA, i.e. In-game Advertising. After getting to 45, I can honestly say this game has more of a G.W./Hellgate:London feel than a MMORPG. As good as the game is, I don't feel it is worth paying monthly subscriptions for. Again, IMHO, there are many F2P games that are much more of an MMORPG that are worth paying for, but are free, than AoC. Great game, just not a good MMORPG at all.
*Edit* I changed my prediction on In-Game Advertising because as someone pointed out, AoC on the XBox 360 will be coming out soon. As such, it will breath more life into the game.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
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Knowbody understands that the game JUST CAME OUT. They still have to fix everything and add more content.
Eidos has nothing to do with AoC except from distribution. Eidos haven't given Funcom one dime in development. The five years of development is payed through Anarchy Online revenues and by external investors. It wasn't Eidos that chose Funcom, but the other way around. It is in other words not the same business structure that Mythic has with Electronic Arts to put it in perspective.
Age of Conan is the property of Funcom, not Eidos.
AoC will never go F2P, just not going to happen. People will keep paying monthly fees, as they do for almost every other game. And if things get really bad they will just close down the game.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
i completely disagree.
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The chances of AoC going F2P ever, are slim, the chances of it going F2P with 18-24 months are non-existent. Its an impossibility from a business perspective, especially considering the revenue FC poured into AoC to get it to where it is at.
I kinda a doubt this game will even be considered for F2P status until their other project goes retail, and even then I highly doubt it. Contrary to alot of what you read on this site the game has a pretty healthy population. I am still having a good time in the game (I take my time and due to recently graduating and getting certified have honestly been putting more time into job hunting than playing). This game has had a much better start than AO, IMO, and definately has more players than AO did at one month past release.
Just my opinion,
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Haha... Sorry for mentioning the forever damned game, but WoW had it's own share of shitty stuff when it came out... Man I even couldn't create account the whole day... and for weeks the servers were very unstable... and if you want to mention pvp of AoC... well think about how long did it make for blizzard to get WoW classes balanced XD erm... year?
Sorry this came out little bit of WoW related post... Though when you look at the subscription amounts you know WoW ain't F2P after 3 years... Same will go with AoC... I have noticed huge improvements from closed beta to this day and I'm loving it better and better(even though I'm playing possibly the buggiest class considering pvp(Assassin)) after each patch(even with not much of improvements to assassin yet)
Where did he ever say that he liked F2P in his post? At least take the time to read his post before you make a smart alek response.
"As good as the game is, I don't feel it is worth paying monthly subscriptions for. Again, IMHO, there are many F2P games that are much more of an MMORPG that are worth paying for, but are free, than AoC."
he said this. can you read
Yep, thats owned, gotta love when someone tells you to read when they themselves have not.
The chances of AoC going F2P ever, are slim, the chances of it going F2P with 18-24 months are non-existent. Its an impossibility from a business perspective, especially considering the revenue FC poured into AoC to get it to where it is at.
DeadlyMage and CuriousDAOC, you both need to learn to read. No where did I say I like to play F2P games. Ghost12, I'm glad at least you can read. LOL
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
So you compare games you don't even like to games you are trying to bash?
The point of this thread is?
Any reason you didn't address other responses, you know, the ones related to your thread topic (of which my own had input as well)?
The answer: because you are a troll.
Basically what Shannia is saying is that AoC feels like a Guild Wars type game, which in a way it does. There are F2P MMOs that feel just like AoC in that there are multiple zone copies, heavily instanced and no real open world travel between zones (having to use NPCs to get from A to B.
Also if you look at Funcoms stance on free to play with use of in game ads and how AO uses ingame ads to support free accounts, it shows that it can be a possibility.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
lol.
I'm sorry, but AoC is an MMORPG, if you don't like it gtfo and go play some other game. It's not seemless, boo-hoo, MMO's don't need to be seemless and AoC is good proof of this.
Guild Wars and AoC both are loading screen heavy. The difference is that you wouldn't see anybody else except in main cities unless you were grouped with them, which is not even close to the case in AoC. Guild Wars is one of the most terrible games I have ever played, if AoC was similar I would not be playing it.
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Dude, thanks for the derail. Since you brought it up, The first day WoW was bad. Within three days they got the servers calmed down. One server bank crashed and was offline until they could replace the damn hardware. Also, remember at that time 150,000 subscribers was a HUGE success in the field. Blizzard sold out 275,000 copies in NA the first week. You could not find a copy of the game anywhere. Funcom is reaping the rewards of Blizzard single handedly making MMORPGs main stream. 3 1/2 years later, they have nearly 11 million concurrent subscribers. Funcom is a publicly traded company. We'll see in 12 months their financials and see how many subscribers they actually have concurrently. I'm glad you are enjoying AoC.
And for the record, you can't ever balance classes for PvP. One tweek will make a class balanced 1v1, while at the same time making group pvp so unbalanced it isn't worth playing. Classes should be balanced to what they bring to the PvE game, not PvP. You can't balance for PvP for 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 5v5, 10v10, and guild v guild. You have to draw the line somewhere. And for the record, WoW's PvP at launch was better than anything they have done after. Open world PvP was awesome and now you never see that unless someone is going in to attempt to roll a king.
now, back to our regularly scheduled programming
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
So you compare games you don't even like to games you are trying to bash?
The point of this thread is?
Any reason you didn't address other responses, you know, the ones related to your thread topic (of which my own had input as well)?
The answer: because you are a troll.
Sorry, TROLL, I was busy typing to someone else if you noticed.
Look at your AO, look at Funcom, look at EIDOS, look at their MAIN focus going forward for revenue is IN-GAME ADVERTISING, look at your EULA, #5 specifically, written by EIDOS and endorsed by FUNCOM or it wouldn't be in your game, look at AO again... YES, F2P AoC is coming, it isn't a matter of if, but when.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Shannia wrote a review a while back saying the game was good and gave it a 7/10 I believe. So he's not a troll, but it becoming F2P? Well, I'm not sure about that. But hey why is everyone complaining about it? The AoC fans like AoC. So if you could play it without paying, isn't that good?
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The EULA also states that they cannot guarantee that your character will not be deleted, does that mean they will have a server wipe in 18-24 months? No. Get a clue dude, it's like a disclaimer just in case. AoC will probably follow in AO's footsteps and go F2P at some point, but not anytime in the next 3-5+ years.
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What ever. You need to look at all my posts about AoC. Matter of fact, I gave the game a 75. It is a great game, what it isn't is a MMORPG, IMHO. You know, opinions, we are allowed to have those and post those as we see fit. And for the record, there is nothing wrong with F2P. What would be wrong is if Funcom did start putting in ads and didn't make it free to play.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Another point is that just because PC gamers are disappointed does not mean that xbox players will, mmo competition (and hence standards) is much, much weaker on the console market (afaik), so they can get away with more. Plus when the game releases for xbox the missing content and balance will be in already. Someone (and it was not me) once said on thise very forums that PC version of AoC will be the beta for xbox version, and it seems that he/she was right.
Boy do these posts get old...
While I will not call you a troll, it would be nice if you could post something without the heatshielding in place from the get-go.
STOP WITH THE "BECAUSE IT IS INSTANCED IT IS NOT A REAL MMO" BULLSHIT PLEASE. With one breath you can bash this game style dynamic, and in the next be crying over how all games are identical..
And quit holding up everything against WoW as your holy grail.... I am sooooooooooooo ooooooooo oooooooooo tired of the "WoW has 10mil supcriptions blah blah blah.. I am so validated by the number 10 million!!!"
And you ARE subtly saying you would rather be playing F2P over AoC, so either defend your orignal post or STFU.
Some of us actually like AoC... it is not perfect - but it sure as hell is a MMORPG.
Very good point. I always forget that M$ is sitting off to the side waiting for this to release. Considering the direction M$ is taking their games, Item Mall will be in before in-game advertising. M$ likes micro transactions in online games.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Boy do these posts get old...
While I will not call you a troll, it would be nice if you could post something without the heatshielding in place from the get-go.
STOP WITH THE "BECAUSE IT IS INSTANCED IT IS NOT A REAL MMO" BULLSHIT PLEASE. With one breath you can bash this game style dynamic, and in the next be crying over how all games are identical..
And quit holding up everything against WoW as your holy grail.... I am sooooooooooooo ooooooooo oooooooooo tired of the "WoW has 10mil supcriptions blah blah blah.. I am so validated by the number 10 million!!!"
And you ARE subtly saying you would rather be playing F2P over AoC, so either defend your orignal post or STFU.
Some of us actually like AoC... it is not perfect - but it sure as hell is a MMORPG.
Sorry Sir, if you go back and read the thread, I wasn't the one who brought up WoW. I was responding in kind. And no, it is not an MMORPG. It is like Guild Wars and Hellgate:London. It surely isn't an mmorpg. If anything, it is trying to bridge the gap between battle.net and traditional MMORPGs. It just takes in one step further than Guildwars and HG:L do.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
It doesn't feel anything like Guild Wars to me. I uninstalled that game after playing for a couple hours of that huge disappointment. That game completely restricts you to a path, and all the instances are private. AoC is not even close.
Not Funcom. Rather than shut it down, they'll open it up to ingame advertising and allow a portion of the content to be Free to Play. Don't believe me? Look at Anarchy Online.