EQ or SWG

minimike312 · September 2004

I have been wanting to buy a new MMORPG game lately and I just want to know which one was better. I mean i play a ton of them at my friends house and he got me back into MMORPGs. So what do you thing I should do, buy the EQ platinum pack for $30 or should I buy Starwars Galaxies?

jimothypetro · September 2004

I'd buy SWG. EQ, even with all the expansion packs, is outdated.

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Drakaeon · September 2004

Are you on crack? EQ beats out SWG easily. It is absolutely not outdated. Plenty of people still play it and enjoy it.

Don't play SWG.

Righty · September 2004

Originally posted by Drakaeon

Are you on crack?

He is if he spends money on either one. Especially if he thinks they're gonna keep updating EQ after EQ2 comes out.

Maxxx · September 2004

SWG is easier to get into... though

EQ, still has people playing but the low level population is really low though because most people power level their new characters

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MegaWolf · September 2004

Originally posted by Righty
Originally posted by Drakaeon
Are you on crack?He is if he spends money on either one. Especially if he thinks they're gonna keep updating EQ after EQ2 comes out.

There is an expansion being released... they are not gonna just stop working on EQ... they still have plans for EQ because a lot of people still play and it is still one of the higher ranking games.

SWG is crap to be honest. I have played so many games and than came back to EQ. Here is a history...

EverQuest
PlanetSide
Back to Everquest
SWG
Back to Everquest
DAoC
Back to Everquest
CoH
Back to Everquest

WBadger · September 2004

EQ blows i think i played it for a week but it was lag central.......annoys me like hell becuz u hell SWG definitly plus with new SWG pack coming out if you have played for i think 6 months u get a yacht and able to fly around in X-wings or Tie fighters

Wolves....screw with em and then YOUR screwed

Plaz · September 2004

If your not the kind of person who will obsess over a game, I suggest EQ. I have played SWG, and I have played EQ, and I honestly had a much better time with EverQuest. With so much stuff to do and such a big world full of content, you will be busy for a long time. When you level up high enough, a whole new game opens up to you in the form of raiding. The player base is also still very strong (moreso than SWG), and surprisingly close-knit.

SWG just doesn't have any of that. No real high-end game, huge but content sparse world(s), and no real "Starwars" feel. That might change with the expansion (Jump to Light Speed), which is actually pretty fun - I played it at E3.

The real problem I had with SWG is that there are just way too many children running around. Granted EverQuest has them, but my experience with SWG was far worse. If you want a good idea of what kind of people you might run into often in SWG, refer to the jumble of literary nonsense just prior to my post.

For what's on the table at the moment, I recommend you go with EQ. Just be weary that they do not call it "EverCrack" for nothing, it is extremely addictive.

Finwe · September 2004

I'd say neither. And I'd say if you bought either your a crackhead & a moron! Because well, in my opinion, they both suck. But, if you want the less of the suckiness, pick EQ. SWG is just hellspawn.

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AciDicEdicT · September 2004

Originally posted by Righty
Originally posted by Drakaeon
Are you on crack?He is if he spends money on either one. Especially if he thinks they're gonna keep updating EQ after EQ2 comes out.

The whole EQ team isnt on EQ2, so somebody needs to cut down on the lsd

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hercules · September 2004

Gameplay,excitement and adventure EQ would not only beat SWG with one hand tied behind but standing on one toe.

However,EQ is 5 yrs old so most players are old timers with high levels .So starting is much harder then SWG.

Apart from this only other reason to go to SWG over EQ would be if you are very intrested in crafting.

digitydarkman · September 2004

im with a few others in here, ill say neither ill stick with AO and UO for now still, and wait.

Farseen · September 2004

I reccomend you rotate between the free-trials which exist for a bunch of games like Anarchy Online, Dark Ages of Camelot and others which i dont feel like looking up right now. But just rotate between those for fun, and then buy Everquest 2. Those games will give you the general feel of different MMORPGs and then you can look forward to the amazement of EQ2 !

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Zaradis · September 2004

It would be very hard for me to go to a game like COH with such a fluid flow, of movement i.e. superjump,speed,flying ... to a game like everquest where travel "now" seems so slow..to be truthful COH has ruin mmorpg for me due to it' style of movement and the amount of enemies i can face alone..it would be pretty hard to make the transition..especially while i'm trying to play ryzom trying to get used to pressing the arrow keys...

City of heros is a great game and in time it will get ALOT better..you should check it out instead of those two.

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rohbshop · September 2004

Imo EQ has the best grouping mechanics in any mmorpg. It truly takes skill in knowing how to play your class along with knowing what other classes bring and using your abilites around theyres to the point where if your good, you'll be successful. But if your not so good, you'll likely fail. It also has imo the best scripts which are often-times pretty challenging and take alot of coordination.

You'll never run out of content in EQ either. I'd say the PvE is more dangerous or challenge the player in EQ more than i can say for any other mmorpg. You'll just have to get past the graphics being outdated, and all the Uber players with much better gear than your going to have or may ever have. Thats why there are alot of haters out there that cant get past the envy factor of EQ. You'll hear more than a few people talk bad about EQ like its some failure of awful game, but it wasnt the most popular mmorpg in NA for a long time and by a large margin over most others for nothing

btw the only thing you might miss going from CoH to other mmorpg's is the combat. From my experience you'll gain more of an appreciation for the multi-faceted'ness of other mmorpg's because CoH pigeon-holes you into only one thing redundantly.

puffdragon · September 2004

Originally posted by AciDicEdicT

Originally posted by Righty

Originally posted by Drakaeon
Are you on crack?
He is if he spends money on either one. Especially if he thinks they're gonna keep updating EQ after EQ2 comes out.

The whole EQ team isnt on EQ2, so somebody needs to cut down on the lsd

Lsd doesnt make you dumb.

"Stare at the Sun im bored..."

sidebuster · September 2004

Well, I am probably going to be the only one saying this, but I love both of the games. They are both great. So if you can I would suggest trying the SWG trial and if you dont like it play EQ. Eather choice you make should be a good one so your winning eather way

puffdragon · September 2004

I thought you werent supposed to advertise here.

jimothypetro · September 2004

Originally posted by Drakaeon
Are you on crack? EQ beats out SWG easily. It is absolutely not outdated. Plenty of people still play it and enjoy it.Don't play SWG.

Sure, many people still play it. But it has very, very few new players.

SWG may not have alot of new players, but it certainly has more than EQ.

No new players = better games out there.

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rohbshop · September 2004

Originally posted by jimothypetro

Originally posted by Drakaeon
Are you on crack? EQ beats out SWG easily. It is absolutely not outdated. Plenty of people still play it and enjoy it.

Don't play SWG.

Sure, many people still play it. But it has very, very few new players.

SWG may not have alot of new players, but it certainly has more than EQ.

No new players = better games out there.

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i'm curious but how much should i read into SWG redoing their combat system? I was thinking about trying it again awhile back but i read some very vocal complaints about the amount of bugs and how the combat was being revamped or something, and how they were pushing out JTLS. I admit, JTLS is interesting which kinda made me want to give it another try. I loved Freelancer and the thought of being able to have ground gameplay along with space is what i've been wanting to see from a mmorpg for awhile. Thats what i thought SWG was supposed to have originally

Damn, now i might have to check it out, sounds like people are pretty high on it. But if i'm not a crafting fan, will i still enjoy it? (i liked Star Wars theme but not a big fanboy of it or anything)

*~Sparrow~* · September 2004

This is just what I think but I say you buy Everquest. It may seem alittle boring at first but after about a month or so it gets exiting and attictive. There is Player versus Player (PvP) which is really cool and fun. I play it when I am really mad and want to fight some human players online or die ( lol ). Then there is the roleplaying servers which to me are the best ones of all.

SWG is just not my type game. It isn't as fun a Everquest and is too much money. I do like the cantina though because it is always

boping but Everquest if you go to some of the bars it is empty as crap ( crap isn't empty lol).The one thing I think will be cool about this game is the expansion that is comin out soon. It is going to make it to were you can ride around whith your buddies and fight people. I heard that you can put furniture in the big ships and decorate them. Cool

I give EQ with all expansions a 9 out of 10

I give SWG a 7 and a half out of 10

yeah man!!!

*~Sparrow~*

Unknown · September 2004

Originally posted by minimike312
I have been wanting to buy a new MMORPG game lately and I just want to know which one was better. I mean i play a ton of them at my friends house and he got me back into MMORPGs. So what do you thing I should do, buy the EQ platinum pack for $30 or should I buy Starwars Galaxies?

Hello minimike312,

Welcome to MMORPG.com.

To answer your question..... unfortunatly the majority of people trying to post an answer do not understand that only players who have played BOTH EQ and SWG are in any position to compare both games, and give their opinion which one will give more bang for the buck for a new player starting right now. Also SWG has so radically changed from how it used to be that only players who have played SWG within the past 2 months will have information that is not grossly outdated.

SWG used to be FREE to download. A few days ago was the last day to download it for free. (I might be wrong, but I no longer see the link to play it for free at their official site.)

http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/

EQ is a 2nd Generation MMORPG. SWG is a brand new 4th Generation MMORPG. Both are runaway success hits. EQ with over 400,000 subscribers, and SWG with over 300,000 subscribers.

-> SWG is intended FIRST for Star Wars fans. Next for anyone with very little free time, roughly 1 to 3 hours free time each gaming session to play.

-> EQ works best for anyone who has TONS of free time. 4 hours minimum, with 5 to 10 to 16 hours of free time works best each gaming session you sit down and play. IMHO if your budget is not too tight and $50.oo will not force you to go without food for 2 weeks, EQ is worth trying just to see what a classic MMORPG is like. It will give one an even greater appreciation for the modern MMORPGs. Like driving a classic 1956 Chevy, then getting behind the wheel of a 2004 Mustang. I do not recommend any new players get super-deep into EQ though. Because EQ2 is right around the corner. New players are better off saving their money for EQ2. They have nothing to lose, vs veteran EQ players the majority which will continue to stick with EQ because they litterally have 4 to 5 years of time invested into EQ. While waiting for EQ2 one can pass the time playing console games, stand alone PC games, and/or the free MMORPG trials many MMORPGs are still offering (like EvE Online, Anarchy Online, and more.)

From a gamer POV (Point of View) SWG is very obviously a far better game than EQ. Obviously the graphics in SWG are far better. But when it comes to game features, SWG overall is far better than EQ also. (Hence why SONY is making EQ2 ) In SWG new players can jump right into the in game economy. Players are able to craft, mine, as well as SELL items while they are OFFLINE. Or off adventuring. SWG unofficially has the best PvP out of every MMORPG out. (Only problem is... there is no concrete reason to PvP, which is why AO officially has the best ever PvP. In AO players can change the map. And defend their territory even while offline.)

EQ is fun to play for the same reason it is fun to ride a 1978 Honda CB 1000, or drive a 1956 Chevy, or 1968 Corvette. Just to see how far things have come, see how things used to be, which gives one an even greater appreciation for modern motorcyles, cars, and .... games.

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rohbshop · September 2004

hummm xploror when was the last tiime you played EQ? I disagree that you need to play a minimum of 4 hour sessions, why would that be?i guess if your raiding(which is only the high end game). Theres no time limit in the time needed to play EQ, that is unless your racing to the top and need to be there in some set time limit. You could probably say the same about SWG if your racing everyone else to the top to become a Jedi.

Now i may not know much about SWG since its release month, but knowing the games and how they've changed goes both ways. EQ isnt like old EQ anymore, its much easier to lvl and quest for alot of different reasons. Also, EQ2 is going to be very different from EQ1. EQ2 wont have nearly the content EQ1 has for quite some time. Theres something said for a 'matured' mmorpg if your looking for a more finished game, and more likely a richer experience. Most new games your going to have to wait months for a decent amount of content, mmorpg's take a long time to develop and tend to come out unfinished w/ lots of issues. I do think your being pretty bias in your evaluation, since gameplay wise, EQ competes with the best of'em. Newer doesnt mean 'better', only true with graphics. UO imo still is one of the best done mmorpg's all around and thats the oldest mmorpg on the market. if only the graphics were 1st person and up to date. I'm also surprised to hear SWG and AO's pvp as the best, havent heard that before, and i'm a pretty big pvp fan.

Also, i think theres a Sony plan where you can get Planetside, EQ, and another game(pretty sure SWG is excluded) for a low montly price, i dont remember how much but it sounded like a good deal when i first saw it. In anycase, i think i'm going to try SWG soon since i still have my old CD. I'll give some opinions on it here after i play it for a few weeks or something~

Unknown · September 2004

Originally posted by rohbshop
hummm xploror when was the last tiime you played EQ?

Exactly 4 days ago. I play on and off now, roughly 1 to 2 times a week. I'm currently checking out DAoC, and EvE online.

I disagree that you need to play a minimum of 4 hour sessions, why would that be?i guess if your raiding(which is only the high end game). Theres no time limit in the time needed to play EQ, that is unless your racing to the top and need to be there in some set time limit. You could probably say the same about SWG if your racing everyone else to the top to become a Jedi.

   The reason I mentioned one needs 4 hours free time minimum to play EQ is:

1. In case one DIES. If the best high level cleric in your guild is not online to instantly rezz you, and you have uber items on you, then to play it 100% safe one will need time to find other clerics, or face the death penalties EQ has for death.

2. A new player level 20 or lower does face a softer death sting. (If they are super low level then death hurts even less, or not at all.) I am answering him as if he will start playing EQ the way it is intended to be played. Meaning he will use paper armor at first (LOL), and not know any uber-level players/guildmates who will give him 500 Plat and/or twink him. Leveling up in EQ without being twinked in any way is very long. In 4 hours of play almost half of it will be spent sitting down and healing.

3. In SWG if a new player dies, they are back in action in far shorter time than in EQ. If they simply get hurt, they can instantly heal minor wounds. Everyone in SWG has access to the "bind wound" skill that is in EQ.

Now i may not know much about SWG since its release month, but knowing the games and how they've changed goes both ways. EQ isnt like old EQ anymore, its much easier to lvl and quest for alot of different reasons.

   Well there you go. EQ is currently taking new features from Anarchy Online. I have played AO, EQ, and SWG. (As well as other games.) I know all three games enough to be able to say I am experienced in all of them.

Also, EQ2 is going to be very different from EQ1. EQ2 wont have nearly the content EQ1 has for quite some time. Theres something said for a 'matured' mmorpg if your looking for a more finished game, and more likely a richer experience. Most new games your going to have to wait months for a decent amount of content, mmorpg's take a long time to develop and tend to come out unfinished w/ lots of issues.

   Everyone will be a newbie in EQ2. EQ2 is also being targeted more towards casual players, or semi-casual/semi-hardcore players. Unlike EQ which is targeted towards uber-hardcore players. (like the members of Uber-guild "Crusaders of Pleto" (sp)) This means what ever content EQ2 has, WILL be enough for the majority of new players.

Also roughly 25% of the content in EQ is inaccessable to a new player. No matter how long they play EQ. Unless they become a member of an uber-guild (like "Crusaders of Pleto"). But to become a member of an uber-guild one must have insane amounts of free time. Even worse, many uber-guilds are not accepting new members. Better off for a new player to wait for and play EQ2.

I do think your being pretty bias in your evaluation, since gameplay wise, EQ competes with the best of'em.

   Then why is EQ now taking things from Anarchy Online?

Newer doesnt mean 'better', only true with graphics. UO imo still is one of the best done mmorpg's all around and thats the oldest mmorpg on the market. if only the graphics were 1st person and up to date. I'm also surprised to hear SWG and AO's pvp as the best, havent heard that before, and i'm a pretty big pvp fan.

   I fully agree newer does not automatically mean better. Asheron's Call 2 is the best example of this. LOL. But when one talks specifically about EQ vs playing a newer MMORPG... for a new player, then one must mention EQ2 as a viable option for a new player. I did recommend EQ for new players, but only if their budgent is not tight. If their budget is tight, then I recommend they wait for EQ2. Or if they are dying to play a MMORPG right now, I recommend they play the many free Trials out. If anyone wants to play SWG, I made sure to mention what the intended target market is so they can first think if they match who the intended players for SWG are.

SWG unofficially has the best PvP. But like I said, there is nothing to PvP for. This is why AO officially has the best ever PvP. Players can fight over and control land. They can also defend their land while offline, or off adventuring. This is why PvP in DAoC is next best - in DAoC the losing side simply waits for the winning side to log off then take what they lost.

Also, i think theres a Sony plan where you can get Planetside, EQ, and another game(pretty sure SWG is excluded) for a low montly price, i dont remember how much but it sounded like a good deal when i first saw it. In anycase, i think i'm going to try SWG soon since i still have my old CD. I'll give some opinions on it here after i play it for a few weeks or something~

The SONY all game pass is still being worked on. Supposivly it will include Planetside, EQ, Tanarious, Infantry, Cosmic Rift, and EQ2. But not SWG. They can obviously change that whenever they want to.

If you have any questions about SWG feel free to post them on the SWG forums, in a new thread, at this site, or at Stratics.com (more SWG fans lurk at Stratics and will help). Remember you can learn 3 1/2 professions for each character. And you are not forever stuck with whatever skills, stats, you choose at character creation, or in game. And take ALL of the beginning in game tutorial heheh.

I recommend at character creation pick Medic, then after you get in the game, go to a combat trainer (I recommend Pistoleer), and crafter trainer and pick Miner. Mine in demand resources to make super easy and quick money. (send a tell to other crafters asking what metals they are looking for and acceptable specs) Get off the starting planet Tantooine (brutal planet for players to start on ) and go to planet Corellia or any planet in the Corellian star system. Or even to planet Naboo.

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r1tual · September 2004

I would say neither.

Wait for WoW (www.worldofwarcraft.com).

Or play Eve Online (www.eve-online.com).

Sony just doesnt have the mojo. There products are cursed with boredom and buggyness with improvements extremely far in between. And if they think they can have a 1% chance of charging you extra money for any improvements on their games, bet they will. Sony games just give me bad vibes.

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