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irocz350
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Think a Nvidia GeForce 7300 LE card could run this on at least medium? I could have sworn I bought this computer last year with 512MB of memory, it says I have 888MB of approx. total video memory on dxdiag... but that Can YOU run it website is telling my my card is only 128MB and it rates me on the low end of the recommended requirements.. it's even telling me my dual core is slightly too slow.
What do you guys think? This was an $800 DELL XPS 410 last year.
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Well my first thought are NEVER BUY A DELL COMPUTER
If that card really is only 128MB i would suggest to either upgrade or if possible safe up some cash and buy/build yourself a new pc, that is if you really want ot start getting into gaming. The memory you looked at might have been your system memory, you might have 1024 installed that reads 888mb due to your OS perhaps.
And like i say with every game always look at recommended specs as for me from all the years of experiance within games it mostly rec. specs that to me should have been minimum specs and this goes for about any game ever created. Afcourse certain games are playeble at min. specs. but just saying to enjoy both aspects of a game these day's gaph/gameplay need ot be atleast 50/50 and not like 10 years ago gameplay 80% and graphics 20%, i mean investors like ATI or NVIDIA will not go for downgraded graphics these day's anymore.
Not going to upgrade my PC because I just bought it last year and I should be able to play any game on the market for a long time. It runs Oblivion and I mainly purchased it to play Lord of the Rings: Online until I got bored of that game and sold my account for a couple hundred bucks. I have my Xbox 360 for most of my gaming. I'm only interested in MMO's for the PC right now, just figured I'd be able to run this and I'm getting it for $10 anyways so it's not biggy if I can't.
I have a 2.13 GHz Dual Core Processor, 2 Gigs of Ram, I guess my video card isn't very decent anymore..
I just don't want to have to run it on the low settings.
You NEED at least 2 g RAM. I would recommend 4.
Your graphic card NEEDS 512m video memory. Anything lower is going to be a huge choke point.
You can always upgrade that computer to spec.
HOWEVER AOC will be releasing for Xbox 360 from what Funcom has said.
If you "refuse" to upgrade your comp thats a option.
Don't assume a $800 dell can automatically run any game out for a long time. Dell tends to overcharge.
Never rule out upgrades! If I were you I would sell that Xbox and buy a new graphic card and add some memory.
SHOHADAKU
I have 2 gigs of RAM, video memory is saying 888MB, which is why I was wondering why that canyourunit site was telling me I only had 128.
I remember reading something that said the 7300LE can -act- like it has more video memory even though it's either 128mb or 256mb.
you sure it said 888m?
Sounds more like the speed 888Mz. No way does a 7300 have 888m video memory. Actually wait. Here's your specs.
You can buy your card for $25 on Newegg.com
You need a new graphic card because that might as well be a intagrated card. It's bare minimum.
1 x TV Out
1 x 15-pin VGA
SHOHADAKU
Under display it says: Approx. Total Memory 888MB
Guess I better cancel my order from Amazon if I'm only going to be able to run this game with 3 FPS then, time better wasted elsewhere. It's not worth buying a new PC every year when a year old $800 gaming machine should suffice. I don't even use the PC that much.
Could also be shared memory.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Scroll up to my edited specs of your card.
Dude I hate to break it to you but your comp was obsolete the day you bought it.
A few upgrades and it will run like a champ
SHOHADAKU
Look.. I already did this crap for other MMO's I ended up not liking. Previous computer I bought an extra few sticks of RAM and a new graphics card and the Matrix Online ended up blowing hardcore.. wasted my money. Lord of the Rings Online ended up being boring after I bought this computer using my company discount from where I work.. wasted money on a PC. Bought a Xbox 360, not wasted money at all. I've been told I'd not be able to run certain games and I've done it before. I'm looking at threads right now on other Age of Conan boards of people using similar setups and not having too much problems, albeit having to run on Low.
First - get more RAM.
Second - make sure the PC is up to date with drivers, windows patches, etc
Third - run Prime95 overnight. If Prime95 errors out once, you will crash in AoC every hour or less. You need to find out what is causing that minor instability on your system.
Your system will run the game, but not with everything turned up all the way. Ohh, turn off Shadows, it causes FPS problems on even the best computers out there.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Hey Irocz...I have built around 6 PC's so I may be able to help.
First:
Are you running Windows XP or Vista? Knowing Dell they went and gave you Vista as a package? Vista hogs up to 2 gig of Ram so you are pretty much left with zero. With Vista you need around 4gig at least.
I had 2 gig on my last rig and running XP. I was left with 1.5 mb or so and AoC would take up around 1.2 of that.
If you know your way around windows, check your 'Device Manager' and check out your video card. Post the specs here or just mail me if you want. If you are using a 7300 LE then it really isnt good enough imo. However the good news is you can pick up some very very cheap cards now and they would give a great performance boost. There is a few other issues though.
1. If you buy a new graghics card you need to find out what your power supply can run. If you upgrade to a 8800GT 512 then you need a decent power supply.
2. If your mother board can handle 4 gig of RAM it would be adviseable to upgrade but you need to pull one of the other sticks out and make sure you get the same type.
Just by adding 2 gig of Ram (essential if you are running Vista) and upgrading to a new video card you should be fine and get medium settings or even high possibly.
For the record before my new build I had
4800 dual core AMD. 1x8800GT 512mb, 2gig of Ram, X-FI sound card. I put the game on 'high' default and I was playing it fine. Around 20-35 FPS which is pretty decent.
So if you upgrade slightly it would be fine.
Hope this helps, if you can please let me know how savy you are with Hardware + Software and try and add more specs.
C
Before I upgraded my video card I was running a XPS 710 with 1.86 core2 duo processor, 4 gigs of ram and an 8600gts 256mb video card and I ran rather smoothly (around 20 to 30 fps in medium settings).
I upgraded to the 8800gt 512 card and before the last patch I was doing 60 to 70 in towns and 70 to 100 in the outside zones. But, since the last patch I am suffering from a 40% loss in fps and stuttering and random video freezing (heres hoping they fix that soon). This last patch broke performance for lots of people with mid to high range systems.
Yeah.. they crapped on me with Vista. I actually ran LOTRO on ultra-high for a few minutes and slightly stuttered a bit, even though the 'can you run it' website has me maxxed out for the recommended requirements for that game. I usually kept it on medium. Figured AoC wouldn't be so bad since it's heavily instanced and looks about graphically comparable to LOTRO in ways. I was also told if I could run Oblivion I could easily run AoC.
I sent you a PM by the way, Chryses.
Hey Irocz...I have built around 6 PC's so I may be able to help.
First:
Are you running Windows XP or Vista? Knowing Dell they went and gave you Vista as a package? Vista hogs up to 2 gig of Ram so you are pretty much left with zero. With Vista you need around 4gig at least.
I had 2 gig on my last rig and running XP. I was left with 1.5 mb or so and AoC would take up around 1.2 of that.
If you know your way around windows, check your 'Device Manager' and check out your video card. Post the specs here or just mail me if you want. If you are using a 7300 LE then it really isnt good enough imo. However the good news is you can pick up some very very cheap cards now and they would give a great performance boost. There is a few other issues though.
1. If you buy a new graghics card you need to find out what your power supply can run. If you upgrade to a 8800GT 512 then you need a decent power supply.
2. If your mother board can handle 4 gig of RAM it would be adviseable to upgrade but you need to pull one of the other sticks out and make sure you get the same type.
Just by adding 2 gig of Ram (essential if you are running Vista) and upgrading to a new video card you should be fine and get medium settings or even high possibly.
For the record before my new build I had
4800 dual core AMD. 1x8800GT 512mb, 2gig of Ram, X-FI sound card. I put the game on 'high' default and I was playing it fine. Around 20-35 FPS which is pretty decent.
So if you upgrade slightly it would be fine.
Hope this helps, if you can please let me know how savy you are with Hardware + Software and try and add more specs.
C
sorry, to hijack the thread for my own needs, but:
I am gonna be gettin my new pc put together soon, and its gonna have a 8800 GT 512, 2.6 dual core amd, and 2 gigs of ram, runnin vista (32?)
I am prolly gonna be gettin AoC tuesday or wednesday, will the 2 suffice? I am already plannin on pickin two more sticks up prolly next pay day, but is it an immediate need to survive with the game?
Ah and by the way. I heard if you go into your advanced options in the properties menu of 'My Computer' and you set vista to run for best performance, you get rid of all that crappy windows aero stuff and go back basically to windows classic and it will actually help your FPS in games. I should be able to 'run' the game, just not on very high graphics.. I figured that would be the case. Most games look beautiful on medium anyways..
Just tested this on Oblivion by the way... it usually takes about 60 seconds to load up my save.. it just took about 10 seconds surprised me dearly there... I guess the little bars and fade in and fade out effects are still running on Vista while you're gaming and really slow you down.
I'm a bit suprised noone has mentioned yet that your 7300LE has a 64 bit memory bus, and that is a major bottleneck to your system, not the amount of graphics memory avialable , be it 128 or 256 MB (btw that 888 MB reported by your system comes from dedicated graphics memory on the gfx card and the amount of RAM reserved for graphics buffer and taken from your total 2 GBRAM).
Anyway, your core duo processor and 2 gig of ram plus any decent gfx card would play this game on medium + settings. I know you said you are not going to upgrade, but I would suggest to swap your gfx chip for a start and see how it goes from there. Doing so would benefit you in the future.
Yeah.. I actually saw some imitation GeForce 8 series cards (512MB) on Newegg for like 30 bucks. I'd hate to wait for a card to be delivered too. I did save a ton of money off the game since I got 20% off amazon and did their stupid credit card thing for $30 to save too. Wasn't sure if the game would run that well so I didn't wanna drop $50. Should I just try it out and see if maybe they'll fix the memory leaks and see if I can run it on low (from some of the screenies of low I've seen it looks like CRAAAP). Hopefully I can handle medium.. I hope, heh.
I dunno of any stores near me that sell cheaper older cards that would possibly suffice, they all have the new stuff for 200 bucks. Like I said, I don't wanna upgrade again for just one game.. if I can run it with decent FPS on medium as-is (I do meet the minimum requirements remember) then I shouldn't need to upgrade. I've actually been scared out of games before by people telling me I drastically need to do this or that to my computer or my stuff is waaay outdated and I proved them wrong.
I was getting hardcore FPS on medium with a integrated 64MB card on my old PC when playing CounterStrike: Source and I was told that couldn't be done.. until I upgraded my card because I didn't have the shaders required to play MxO.
I dont know what ur budget for games and stuff is, but u can get a nice upgrade at vid card for rel cheap, around 100 dollars for a nice one at newegg. the thing is, it would help even more with oblivion, and this and any other future game (which will need at least 512mb). its a good investment.
Nah.. I'm too frugal and I don't use my PC like I said. I don't even like Oblivion, I ordered it for the 360 and got the cruddy PC version so it's no fun without getting achievements.
Can someone just let me know how bad AoC will run? I'm sure it -will- run. I kinda need to know so I can cancel my order if it won't at all so I can save my $14.67 total cost and have some random credit card I'll never use, lol.
I'm seeing people who are running on low with 20-35 FPS on a single core processor, 1GB of RAM, and a comparable 7 series GeForce (7600).
So should I cancel my order from amazon or not? Am I going to be able to run this game at a decent 30 fps on low?
All I need to know, no more bickering about specs and upgrading, I could care less about graphics.
I thought they said the minimum card was the GeForce 5800 even. Gosh.. all this thinking is making me sick.. I need to go to sleep but I don't want them to process my order if I'm not gonna play it. I could spend the money on something else, you know?
Even top-end computers are having problems, they really need to fix this crap. There's even a bug with low settings, so I'd probably get more FPS on high.
Of course I'll never know how it'll run until I try it, right?
Might just be surprised..
Well....i would recommend you to cancel ....for now.....
and depending on YOUR playstyle ...PVP or PVE you might be in time (due to future update/fixes be able to enjoy atleast the PVE part of the game, aswell maybe be that solo type of player that occasionaly groups or duo's? as that might keep your fps steady, i am afraid if you into PVP due to the nature of that particulair playstyle that you won't get enough fps to enjoy it, for pve you often don't need that split second in combat, in PVP thats a whole nother story........So it's not only what type of system you have but also the type of playstyle you might have which can effect performance greatly.
Too late now.. the jerks just shipped my game. Ah well, I'll sell it back on Amazon for more than what I bought it for I guess.. make a cool $30 profit.
Wish someone would have told me more FPS info like you guys just did awhile ago, then I could have made the decision to cancel. The people earlier were more concerned with telling me to spend hundreds of dollars just so I can see the awesome blades of grass that I don't really care about. I mean I guess curiosity might get to me and I'll probably waste my time installing and patching the game and end up realizing it's unplayable... I was just holding on to the fact I might be able to get 30 FPS in all situations on medium like I do in every other game.