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AI worthless to the guildless casual player?
powersurged
Member Posts: 18
Besides the player run cities I was expecting alien missions, random attacks, maybe an outdoor zone or 2 but from what I am reading on the offical forums its all based around the guild owned cities and if you are not in one of these guilds you can only help defend the currently bugged alien attacks on the cities you can't go into the ships? There are no missions or new zones other than the new backyard? Seems like a waste unless you are in a guild so should I not bother and send the game back when my copy comes in? IMO the raid raid raid style of add ons ala everquest doesn't cut it anymore. I expected AI to have something for everyone ala shadowlands but I guess I was mistaken?
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Just got back from the official forums myself and boy your right.. People are PO'ed over there.. Its almost as bad as when SL came out... Wow cant believe I was thinking about going back to this game, seems like Funcom has not learned a thing since the SL launch...
Not to mention the few that do attend the Alien raids at the huge guild towns say that if the grid camping uber aliens dont kill you the lag lag and more lag will..... Not good Funcom not good.
But hey I heard the new GUI is awesome..
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
All I can say is that the hype you refer to on the forums doesnt reflect truely on whats happening on the ground.
Yes there are bugs, the main being that the alien attacks are not yet spawning on demand (ie when a cloaking device drops) yes a lot of people are very concerned about the price of upkeep on cities and yes there are flame wars going on and peolpe complaining because they cant hunt aliens unless they have their own city or join a busy spawn at an existing city but all in all its a good expansion and I expect most of the issues to be resolved in a patch or 3.
Dont let reading a few flame wars stop you from coming back to what is all in all now an excellent game.
arguements over prices are hyped. A city may cost a guild around 10 million per month per member if you are a very small guild with only a few active players. The smallest sites are around 70 Mill to buy and 60 mill to up keep each month. There are a few bugs with one or two of those like not yet having enough space for both a HQ and a cloaking device but funcom have asked for petions on those to fix them. BTW 10 mill is about 5 solo level 200 missions each taking 20-30 mins at worst so no real problem there even for a casual player.
What of the players that are not in guilds /choose not to join guilds? What of those that like to duo with friends? No where on the box does it say guild required. This add on is a joke. Yet another uber guild only add on to a MMORPG just like Gates of Discord for everquest. (I have 2 lvl 65's with 40+ aa points in EQ and GoD was a waste for me as I don't raid other than velious era content with my current guild)
I am not a fool. Unless you are in a guild there is nothing for you in AI unless you feel like KSing in other guild's cities. I and many other's complaining were lead to beleive that there would be ships/missions/aliens CONTENT that everyone could access guild or no guild. They need to change the box and the descriptions on online order pages warning people that unless you join a guild with a city don't bother with this add on.
Also not everyone has a lvl 200 character. I have been playing off and on for almost a year and have multiple characters under lvl 80 because I am a casual player and I do not devote 100% of my free time to 1 game. Classic AO and Shadowlands are both full of content for everyone. AI is guild only and a waste of $30 for anyone not in a guild.
"AI is guild only and a waste to anyone not in a guild"
I would pretty much agree BUT AI has always been promoted as an organisational/social upgrade and thats what it is. New cloths and Guild items. If you assumed otherwise then you fooled yourself dont blame Funcom and dont reply by taking lots of quotes out of context and claiming otherwise as i have seen other do elsewhere but I would be very surprised if Funcom did not add more content to please players like yourself tho.
"alien missions, random attacks, maybe an outdoor zone or 2" Alien missions, yes, attack the ship, random attacks, yes on your guild HQ, 2 new outdoor zones 1 for new players cities, 1 for newbies" what you expected is there.
That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.
Well im kinda of a different player myself.. Im not a casual player yet I choose not to join Guilds/orgs/ect.....I powerlevel all on my own and used to get my uber items I needed for PVP and money all on my own.. However Funcom seems like they didnt think about people like me who just like to solo and do there own thing at times...Seems to me by listening to all the people talk about AI its all for the big orgs....Which is funny since they killed alot of the big orgs by launching SL, lol now there killing the casual gammers with AI....
Oh well Funcom looks like you did it agian...
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
AI is the second beta I just start up, then drop just as fast. I played AO for sveral years, started 2 months from launch, stopped after a few months of SL. This.. this was a really bad patch, they try to sell for cash. Last time I quit in disgust like this, when I had the chance to play a game for free.. Was Shadowbane, beta 2. This was just as bad.
Only game I wait for right now: Imperator.
Go Mythic!
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
I think AI is good for those that are enjoying the game before, but for those that are tired of old AO/SL, AI won't do much good, too little content and you still have to play in RK/SL most of the time, AI should have been a patch to let the story line develop, shouldn't be called an expansion.
Unguilded people got social clothing and can kill aliens when they attack cities, but they said all the time that AI would be for guild cities and things aroudnd guilds and that aliens would attack them.
If you are unguilded and don't want social clothing then just skip AI, you can still kill aliens in cities, but you don't get the benefits by owning a city.
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Azzazzimon
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Azzazzimon
Well there is a lot of bad vibes going down on the Official AO site forums at the moment regarding this Alien Invasion Expansion.
Many people seem to think that unless you are UBER guild member etc you have nothing to gain from playing Alien Invasion and it not just isolated to a few posts here and there. I think a lot of people are generally unhappy with this Alien Invasion release.
To be fair its early days yet, they had what seemed to be an emergency patch on Friday and players still aren't happy. Hopefully FunCom given the chance can turn this around.
We all wait with baited breath.
Half and half off topic but at what level should I join a guild and are most people happy to invite you to their guild and LAST of all does anyone want to invite a lvl 0 nobody who is downloading the free trial as he writes this to their guild?
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Sadly during the AI beta the game was not finished nor running smoothly, invasions were hard to get going and it was difficult to figure out what made invasions spawn. People had invasions spawn with less than six players and we were told to have more than six or more to get an invasion going.
I do not understand why they decided to release it now. It was not ready.
The game was not very newbie friendly either, it moved to fast for newbies and not enticing enough to lure us in.
Sounds like another Funcom failed expansion (Shadowlands)...Beta testers left and right (4 from my old org) told them that SL was not ready to be released, but they went right ahead and launched anyways....
Its sad really with nothing at all out there right now Funcom could have made a Homerun here and brought tons of people back and attracted new people.. But it seems the Devs behind this project now have lost there way, and after two iffy expansions within a year they look like they will never find there way agian.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Right now AI is geared for people belonging to successful orgs and there is not much for more casual players. My only reason for purchasing the game was for player run stores, which have been taken offline because of bugs for now.
But I started a soldier in ICC and got him his 2 Alien Perks before leaving and am happy to have an extra 200 and some extra XP at level 15 (level when you can use the perks). I am pretty sure we will see other ways besides Player run city attacks to get Alien XP eventually. There are a lot of underused zones in AO ....
All these points have been raised on the official forum.
But I have one that I cannot put on the official forum as it gets wiped as soon as I post it. I purchased AI from funcom via online purchase and download. I was all set to kick some Aliens back into space. But being a single player this was not to be.
Well to cut a long story short after venting my frustrations on the official forums. I contacted Funcom and requested a refund, as their own website had been misleading in that it did not make you aware of the requirement to be part of an ORG to benefit from AI content. Now imagine my surprise when I got a very nice email from Funcom advising my account had been downgraded and my money refunded to my Credit card.
I will still play AO and don't think any other company would have done this.
Is that 200 is Health?
If so that might suck for people like me who like to participate in PVP but do no like Funcoms latest efforts with Expansions...Just like in alot of games if you want to be any good in PVP you have to get all of the expansions, cant really blame companys to much, well I can if there expansions are crappy like SL is and AI appears to be.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Yes it is 200 health. If you PVP you must always be up to date, it is too early to really know how the new perks will affect PvP, but there will at least be a minimal advantage , and in PvP that is sometimes enough.
SL was a great expansion for many people, was released too soon but once patched up was (and is) a lot of fun. The high level Uber crowd was a lot more limited before SL and most of those players feel cheated that newbies have a lot easier time reaching 200 +, but it is the same in every MMORPG, people complain about the present and say the past was so much better.....
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Actually you kind of re-inforce what I was saying, yes, in the months after SL a lot of people left, but since then a lot have come back, every day I see people admitting that SL is fun after all and happy that they came back. I am sure that there are some that can't accept ant change and will never come back, but the loss is theirs....
I didnt reinforce anything, the term AO and Ghost town is used far to often on this site and others including AO's official forums for me to ever believe you and others that things are fixed now... Mainly because you cannot fix the fact that Shadowlands was a EQ clone rip off and just did not fit at all in the Anarchy Online world... Shadowlands should have added to RK but instead has taking away from it, this is evident in the fact that people complain all the time in the fact that its very hard to get teams going anymore unless your in a guild.. The old AO I knew this was not the case at all, teams were all over the place and it actaully gave you the feeling that this was a MMORPG.
SL has completly changed the game one particular rather humerous quote I read on the official forums enforces this... If I remenber correctly it went like this "This game is full of Heckler power lvled noobs thanks to SL, the other day I had a lvl 189 Engy ask me a (Doctor) to heal his pet". I guess if you wanna fight Hecklers all day then you can say that Shadowlands AKA EQ 1.5 is a great addition to the game
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
No one is asking you to come back. But there are people playing and having fun. I do a mix of Hecklers, missions and dungeons, and try not to exagerate on one aspect too much to burn myself out. Having played off and on since day one, I would say that AO has more people now than it ever had. I wish that all games let us see their numbers like DAoC does and WoW seems to (at least in beta), but they don't so we just have to guess.
I always found that a MMORPG in expansion have very active newbie areas, and in AO case, they are quite lively lately (talking before AI, now everone is starting am alt in ICC to get a couple of Alien perks).
Anyways, back to AO, the weekend is advancing....