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jgankum
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Poland at 53%? What exactly does that mean?
Very evenly spread out for the most part.
Except for the obviously unpopular classes.
Makes me want to roll a Bright Wizard or Archmage seeing those low numbers (atleast on the US Stats).
STOP WHINING!
Looks as though order are more popular on PVE/RP realms whereas destruction are higher population on pvp realms.
Interesting poll:)
Think i'll make my first 2 characters Archmage and shadow warrior (PvP) and chaos magus/shaman (rp). Unless I change my mind at release ofc :P
Would have never guessed Poland would be that high. It also looks like we need more females playing. That can't hurt right?
Where does it tell me how many people that is based upon?
Percentages are only as accurate as the number of people contribution to them.
What really surprised me was the fact that the dwarves actually ended up being so popular. Everywhere I go it seems people want to play Orks and little to no dwarf support.
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The vast majority of players that will be playing the game do not visit online forums, or vote in polls like this. This poll is pulling from a very narrow group of players. Those players already interested in WAR, and those players who are interested enough in WAR to vote on some obsure poll. (Hell, I've been following WAR for years and didn't know about this poll until now).
Besides those facts, we also have no idea how many people voted in the poll. If it's less than 50,000 people (roughly 10% of those signed up for beta) we still do not have even remotely accurate results.
Having said that. Dwarves will most definitely be the least played race. It could just be 1% less than the 2nd most unplayed race, but I guarantee that they will be the least played. Every single (and I do mean EVERY) MMO that has ever been released with Dwarves as a race, they are the least played. I doubt WAR will be an exception.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
Statistically relevant? Who cares. It's a great looking site that is well put together. And give people a glimps into what forums posters are going to do.
As for your guarantees about Dwarves, bah. People will play the classes they find most effective for their play style. Lots of "unofficial" videos have been leaked with Engineers and they look really fun to play.
I also don't believe your claim about Dwarves are actually true "(and I do mean EVERY) MMO". When I played LOTRO I saw Dwarves every where I went. I never cared to look at the numbers, but they sure felt awful damn popular.
Gotta love the guy who gives credibility based on the looks of the site and information. If the numbers aren't disclosed, give it as much credence as the other polls that are posted here almost weekly.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
The sample set is Forum posters. You could have 5 or 5000 responses (only about 200 at the moment) and people will still dispute it. Beside I never made a case for the results having any statistical relevance.
The numbers are disclosed BTW, but even if they were not ... the math is rather simple to figure out how many people responded.
If no one knows about the site, no one would post their info and the site would NEVER have any statistical bases.
Europe has the most beta apps for war and it has the biggest following . They should of put europe as a whole not split up, no matter.
DAOC had more people from europe playing it than the US. Warhammer TT has its biggest following in europe as well.
Warhammeralliance.com has more europeans than americans.
That part of the chart is wrong.
Until word get around in the US that WAR is a great game ,europe will see the biggest subs with NA and the rest making up the other subs.
You would be supprised at how many people in the us had never heard of Warhammer until this game. It was the older TT players in the us that knew what warhammer was. Ask a younger person in the us about warcraft and they will all no what it is but not Warhammer.
I find it interesting that there are no Asian countries represented in this statistic.
The sample set is Forum posters. You could have 5 or 5000 responses (only about 200 at the moment) and people will still dispute it. Beside I never made a case for the results having any statistical relevance.
The numbers are disclosed BTW, but even if they were not ... the math is rather simple to figure out how many people responded.
If no one knows about the site, no one would post their info and the site would NEVER have any statistical bases.
I still don't get why you are defending the relevance here. There are over 730,000 that have applied for beta, rather simple math to see how a sample size if 200 isn't representative of any part of that. Not to mention that the actually number of those playing the game on release could go either way, more than beta applications or less; yet another reason surveys at this point are flawed. Survey no good.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
The sample set is Forum posters. You could have 5 or 5000 responses (only about 200 at the moment) and people will still dispute it. Beside I never made a case for the results having any statistical relevance.
The numbers are disclosed BTW, but even if they were not ... the math is rather simple to figure out how many people responded.
If no one knows about the site, no one would post their info and the site would NEVER have any statistical bases.
I still don't get why you are defending the relevance here. There are over 730,000 that have applied for beta, rather simple math to see how a sample size if 200 isn't representative of any part of that. Not to mention that the actually number of those playing the game on release could go either way, more than beta applications or less; yet another reason surveys at this point are flawed. Survey no good.
Which part of "Beside I never made a case for the results having any statistical relevance" confused you?
I've NEVER made the claim that this has any statistical relevance. It's a good looking page with INTERESTING data points. As more people add their data, it simply becomes a more interesting way to look at a sample set of data.
From your approach to this, NO survey would ever been good. It would go something like this ... Joe start a survey, 10 people reply, you come along and say "Survey no good" no enough responders. No one else fills out the survey, thus making you correct. As you walk away, Joe thinks to himself. "How the hell could I ever get to any reasonable level of statistical interest when people like you don't even give them a chance?"
Does anyone else plan on choosing a race/job combo that is least popular? Someone has to fill in the gap and I think its funner to pick a class that you don't see much of. Give the game some diversity.
Hi thar Dark elv, witch elf! I'll try to follow the stats until the game is actually realesed to help me choose what I will be doing for a carreer choice.
I would like to see a Hammerer that is a Butcher or Cultivator.
Time to butcher this squig! *whack* *whack* (starts pummeling it with hammers)
Oh well I guess that didn't work.....
Time to dig a hole and plant some weeds! *whack* *whack* (starts hitting the ground with his hammers)
Life sure is hard for a Hammerer.....
STOP WHINING!
The census was a good survey. Nielson does pretty good surveys all the time. You can find loads of good surveys at a public library in the reference section...remember what the library is?
Joe's survey sounds kind of contrived, what was he trying to measure? If his sample size of 10 was representative of a group of 50, then I would say it was a good survey. See where I'm going here? Buy a basic statistics book, or at least google it, maybe wikipedia can help you out.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
Wow, now your going to try to be condescending too? Here is a little wiki page that might help you out, however, make sure you have someone with you to explain it. Wiki Page
The census would never be a good survey with people like you, because it would never have the chance to succeed. You would come along 10 minutes into the start of the survey and shoot it down for lack of data.
Now, show me where I said anything about the survey having statistical merit. If you choose to ignore this request, I'll know your just out for a afternoon troll.
Not trying; I am being condescending.
The fact that you post it and attempt to draw conclusions would mean that you give it credence (some form of merit).
I'm gonna head back under the bridge and live out the rest of my night in peace instead of debating with some copy/paste drone.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
ok I just got clubed with the NDA stick so I need to watch what I say better. was doing good til now.
But as you can see by posters on other boards that the population imbalance is already there. but... mythic has a long history of fixing population imbalances, so i wouldnt worry.
/bump
I'm just interested in seeing how the pre-release population speculation comes out... so keep the votes in the poll coming
Still waiting for you to point out the conclusion you CLAIM I was trying to draw. Come on monkey boy. Put your money where your mouth is and show us all where I made any type of claim the site is statistically relevant.
Still waiting for you to point out the conclusion you CLAIM I was trying to draw. Come on monkey boy. Put your money where your mouth is and show us all where I made any type of claim the site is statistically relevant.
Monkey boy, hahaha. Well yes I guess so, we all came from them, of course some of us more removed from that particular genetic pool than others.
I guess you didn't read that wiki article you gave me, I think i said it in my previous post...yep it is up there. You don't have to physically say "I claim this is relevant." But to post, and allow inferences to be made, you are implicitly stating that it is relevant.
I already said I was tired of this argument, but I think I have enraged the beast within. At any rate this has come to splitting hairs and downright boring. I'll go vote on that poll now.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
Yep. Calling you monkey boy was right on target. I explicitly stated, a number of times, that I'm not making any claim about statical relevance. Yet you infer that I really intended something else.
By your logic, we should infer that news paper editors implicitly believe everything they put in print. Oh, and so do marketing people.
Thanks for playing, now run a long and troll someone else.
To knowingly print something in a newspaper you believe to be false is illegal, same to lie to people whom you market to. Thanks for letting me play, it has been fun.
You can keep trying, but I'm done. This has degenerated to the level where continued posts are not longer interesting, or required.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8