and AoC isnt crap it has major flaws that have already been stated (which they are fixing before implementing this stuff) and if they add this like a major siege battle (if you actually read it, it says they will have other ways of sieging that will be even bigger) they will see even more people the only thing i see in WAR that will really atract more people is instant gratification because you are doing pvp getting good gear from lvl 1 while age of conan is more story based which pc gamer for some reason dont really like.
Bigger than the 20 mans on screen 5 FPS? lol worst thing about it is that its instanced so it should cause even less lag, hell i goe better fps when a 40 man horde raid attack IF, with about 200 people on screen in IF. Game design is pure console game. Aoc is a story based game like all games you mean? Hell what is the story in aoc, i dotn even know. Because playing upto lvl 55 i didnt even know what the story was ingame, are we meant to kill conan or something? War already has more people in in open world RVR zone than aoc has in an instanced so called next gen pvp siege with 20 people at 5 fps. hell even AV in wow has more people in a zone doing pvp, hell even going down more AB has more people on screen with 100x better fps. Aoc is a failure in game design and pvp, what i did like about it for 2 years was the hype and the spin though, but then release came and shit really hit the fan.
You lost all credential after you stated one simple fact: you only played to lvl 55. You know nothing about 20 man raids and what kind of FPS people have. I do not have a tippy-top of the line comp and I play AOC on High settings perfectly during raids. So quit talking out your ass about something you know nothing about.
I am currently in a top raiding guild in Conan and from my experience (and the general experience of everyone in the guild) is that Conan, as a game, is great. Why you might ask? The reason is simple; IT IS FUN. Funcom has done something other mmorpg's have forgotten, and that is to make the game fun. PVE raids are really a blast and soon the pvp sieges will also be a load of FUN as well.
The reality is all the "naysayers" are always finding ways to trash this game. First they said AOC's launch will be comparable to that of Vanguard. And what happened? AOC had one of the smoothest launches in mmorpg history(even better than that of WoW: wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Epidemic-Obesity/Age-of-Conan-Poised-to-Dominate-WoW/). FUNcom delivers.
GET OVER IT. AOC is a good fun game. Funcom has delivered so far as I am concerned, and AOC will only get better with time. Don't like it? Good, go back to WoW or spend your money on WoW recreated under the name of "WarHammer". Either way you not playing = less drama and more bandwith for the rest of us (Win- Win situation).
Yes you absolutely right bro!!
You are absolutely SO RIGHT EVEN! that the Game Director himself is a troll coming with a panic statement that FIXING Horrible FPS and Horrible LAG in PVP Siegewarfare has gotten TOP priority!
Let's see who has now lost every sense of credibility here huh
Cheers
20 man's are fine(It's actually 24 man when full). How do I know? I did one last night. And maybe read a little closer what I stated directly about sieges.
Check out the other video where there is above 20fps easy on the front page here. Take off fraps and you have 30fps + Oh and Narco, martie has NOT played the retail version, he just beta'd it in tortage.
Are you talking about the one running in what looks like1024x768 resolution with the giant UI buttons?
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
if they dont deliver well i think we all know who will habve more subs by the end of the year....
Of course! That's what's most important for the genre: who is top dog. Here I was thinking that it would be better to have a genre with more than one strong title.
Silly me!
When it comes along let me know.
Do I PM or call you?
Of course it's all relative to personal taste and the amount of shine, bling bling (polish).
Not that I dislike AoC (or WAR for that matter, I hope both are successful), but FC has promised a lot already. If they delivered all that they promised at launch, we wouldn't be having all these issues now.
If they deliver all that they promise this time, maybe they'll be alot more successful now, but they'd be much more prosperous if they promised honestly in the first place. That's down the pooper at this point. They may have made a good amount of box sales, but whether or not they keep the flow going and subscriptions at a steady pace is questionable at this point... though I hope they pull through.
Why do people flame against a game with very unique features when they themselves are screaming superiority about a game that they haven't even gotten close to playing yet? I played AoC for two characters to lvl 80 and I find it hell-o fun. I am very dissapointed in Funcom for releasing a half-broken game, but if the unbroken part I did play was "hell-o fun" then I can't wait until the whole thing is fixed! Even then they announced that WAR's combat was going to be right-click auto-attack like WoW (not saying that they are the same thing, just noticable similarities). so please stop bitching, both of you, and also stop pretending your some englishman by saying "cheers" after all of your posts, its annoying.
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AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Martie
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Martie
Originally posted by Narco28
Originally posted by Martie
Originally posted by 123123456202
aion will be an asian grinder
and AoC isnt crap it has major flaws that have already been stated (which they are fixing before implementing this stuff) and if they add this like a major siege battle (if you actually read it, it says they will have other ways of sieging that will be even bigger) they will see even more people the only thing i see in WAR that will really atract more people is instant gratification because you are doing pvp getting good gear from lvl 1 while age of conan is more story based which pc gamer for some reason dont really like.
Bigger than the 20 mans on screen 5 FPS? lol worst thing about it is that its instanced so it should cause even less lag, hell i goe better fps when a 40 man horde raid attack IF, with about 200 people on screen in IF. Game design is pure console game. Aoc is a story based game like all games you mean? Hell what is the story in aoc, i dotn even know. Because playing upto lvl 55 i didnt even know what the story was ingame, are we meant to kill conan or something? War already has more people in in open world RVR zone than aoc has in an instanced so called next gen pvp siege with 20 people at 5 fps. hell even AV in wow has more people in a zone doing pvp, hell even going down more AB has more people on screen with 100x better fps. Aoc is a failure in game design and pvp, what i did like about it for 2 years was the hype and the spin though, but then release came and shit really hit the fan.
You lost all credential after you stated one simple fact: you only played to lvl 55. You know nothing about 20 man raids and what kind of FPS people have. I do not have a tippy-top of the line comp and I play AOC on High settings perfectly during raids. So quit talking out your ass about something you know nothing about.
I am currently in a top raiding guild in Conan and from my experience (and the general experience of everyone in the guild) is that Conan, as a game, is great. Why you might ask? The reason is simple; IT IS FUN. Funcom has done something other mmorpg's have forgotten, and that is to make the game fun. PVE raids are really a blast and soon the pvp sieges will also be a load of FUN as well.
The reality is all the "naysayers" are always finding ways to trash this game. First they said AOC's launch will be comparable to that of Vanguard. And what happened? AOC had one of the smoothest launches in mmorpg history(even better than that of WoW: wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Epidemic-Obesity/Age-of-Conan-Poised-to-Dominate-WoW/). FUNcom delivers.
GET OVER IT. AOC is a good fun game. Funcom has delivered so far as I am concerned, and AOC will only get better with time. Don't like it? Good, go back to WoW or spend your money on WoW recreated under the name of "WarHammer". Either way you not playing = less drama and more bandwith for the rest of us (Win- Win situation).
What 20 man raids? I never said i knew about aoc siege, ive seen videos enough of the siege where even the peopel saying it with 20-30 people on screen caused etween 2-5 fps.
etween 2-5 fps.
Check out the other video where there is above 20fps easy on the front page here. Take off fraps and you have 30fps +
Oh and Narco, martie has NOT played the retail version, he just beta'd it in tortage.
Oh look who it is, aoc number 1 poster boy. I have actually played this pathetic game to lvl 55 as a barb. So thats that out of the way. And you say the 2nd video has 20 fps and upto 30 taking of fraps, please avery now Ive heard it all. You come here now trying to make it out how having 20 fps in pvp with 20-30 people on screen at the same time is good. Avery Maybe i will carry to login to beta as well to see if i get any ebtter fps with 2 people on screen, shame you cant join as you were never in. The worst thign about you Avery is even if you knew the game was crap you wouldnt say it, because you have been the number 1 spin and hype merchant here for so long, that saying its bad would mean everything you spewed for a year was crap. Sorry I take nothing you say anymore as serious anymore.
Mate, like anything you say is serious, how many times you been banned from here? You said spellweaving was not in for launch, it was. Siege battles are happening with bugs, yes bugs. If you take a look here: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6192732/index.html?part=rss&tag=gs_features&subj=6192732 harware performance guide, its quite obvious when there is a siege battle frame rates will drop, just like on shadowbane and Daoc. Fraps takes off 9 fps when not in use on my system. Even the LoTD guy who made the video says experienced no where near as much lag as the other guild, and was very playable, ableit the bugs.
You bashed the game from 3 months back, you would never buy the retail version, said so yourself. You have never played the retail version, you beta tested tortage for 2 weeks thats its.
Please stop dribbling and foaming at the mouth and move on. You came here to bash the game, and you have just beta experience with it, mate move on, wipe the foam from your mouth and take your crap elsewhere.
If Funcom can fix the game up properly in the next few months, it will make sieges very enjoyable. They have a headstart of other games coming out in the fall with sieges who will have growing pains too. Ball is in there court but for now its playable and fun even with the bugs.
We all know you never played the game from launch, stop kidding yourself.
What 20 man raids? I never said i knew about aoc siege, ive seen videos enough of the siege where even the peoplesaying it with 20-30 people on screen caused between 2-5 fps. What excatly do u raid in aoc lol? The end raid dungeons where there is no poiunt to them as nothing drops or anything. PVe raids lol, seriously from talking about a pvp game the fanbois turn it now into pve, it just amazes me. You say Failcom have made aoc fun, which other companies have forgotten, I ask you, are u on crack? Only thing Failcom forgot was to implement everything they hyped, and forgot to tell everyone that the game was not next gen or a pvp game. LOL always with the same comments, when fanbois dont like it they say go back to wow, newsflash, wow has nothing to do with your next gen failure of a game. How about I go back to cod4, as its more pvp and can handle more players on screen doing pvp with better fps than aoc lol.
Raid content: www.dread-guild.com/viewtopic.php (loots/mobs etc.) And soon pvp siege warfare will be perfected as well. Quit talking out your ass about a game you have barely played.
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AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by solareus
Originally posted by Martie Oh look who it is, aoc number 1 poster boy. I have actually played this pathetic game to lvl 55 as a barb. So thats that out of the way. And you say the 2nd video has 20 fps and upto 30 taking of fraps, please avery now Ive heard it all. You come here now trying to make it out how having 20 fps in pvp with 20-30 people on screen at the same time is good. Avery Maybe i will carry to login to beta as well to see if i get any ebtter fps with 2 people on screen, shame you cant join as you were never in. The worst thign about you Avery is even if you knew the game was crap you wouldnt say it, because you have been the number 1 spin and hype merchant here for so long, that saying its bad would mean everything you spewed for a year was crap. Sorry I take nothing you say as serious anymore.
I agree. There is nothing worst on these boards then a pusher of crap gaming. Avery can't even admit anything is wrong with the game, either he is under contract , or not really a mmo gamer....
Avery, maybe get out of your won arse once in a while and the hype and lies you spewed for months about the game. Yes i did decided to try the game, just so that fanbois like you woldnt bash me for not trying it, but even with trying it you cant see your arsee from your elbow. Maybe i send you a screenshot of my account page just to prove to you i played the game, also have kilelr rhino lol:P what a waste. Avery next time any game that comes out and is hyped maybe take an objective look at the game. Avery you can have your 5fps 30 man on screen pvp lol, and your devolution in mmo games. Had enough talking about this sad pathetic exuse for a game, that was hyped by Failcom and you for 2+ years.
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Avery, maybe get out of your won arse once in a while and the hype and lies you spewed for months about the game. Yes i did decided to try the game, just so that fanbois like you woldnt bash me for not trying it, but even with trying it you cant see your arsee from your elbow. Maybe i send you a screenshot of my account page just to prove to you i played the game, also have kilelr rhino lol:P what a waste. Avery next time any game that comes out and is hyped maybe take an objective look at the game. Avery you can have your 5fps 30 man on screen pvp lol, and your devolution in mmo games. Had enough talking about this sad pathetic exuse for a game, that was hyped by Failcom and you for 2+ years.
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Since when in an MMO do you have to get close to max level to experience "the real game"? Are you saying that sub level 80 the game is nothing real? Do the same mechanics not apply? Why should anyone have to trudge through 90% of a game to get to the actual game? A game is the same from 1-max with slight advancements along the way. If a game is crap in the first 50+ levels and then golden in its prime max level, thats total BS. Thats like being forced to watch Golden Girls for 2 hours at a theater before seeing the feature you paid to see.
I'm sorry, but thats like the worst defense of gameplay I have ever read.
A 20 year prison sentence gets better once your in your final year as well. Just have to look past all the late night encounters with Bubba and not being able to sit for days on end...
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Avery, maybe get out of your won arse once in a while and the hype and lies you spewed for months about the game. Yes i did decided to try the game, just so that fanbois like you woldnt bash me for not trying it, but even with trying it you cant see your arsee from your elbow. Maybe i send you a screenshot of my account page just to prove to you i played the game, also have kilelr rhino lol:P what a waste. Avery next time any game that comes out and is hyped maybe take an objective look at the game. Avery you can have your 5fps 30 man on screen pvp lol, and your devolution in mmo games. Had enough talking about this sad pathetic exuse for a game, that was hyped by Failcom and you for 2+ years.
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Since when in an MMO do you have to get close to max level to experience "the real game"? Are you saying that sub level 80 the game is nothing real? Do the same mechanics not apply? Why should anyone have to trudge through 90% of a game to get to the actual game? A game is the same from 1-max with slight advancements along the way. If a game is crap in the first 50+ levels and then golden in its prime max level, thats total BS. Thats like being forced to watch Golden Girls for 2 hours at a theater before seeing the feature you paid to see.
Never said the first levels are crap. They are actually part of the highlight of playing the game(see Tortage and the numerous instances/quests currently implemented)
Avery, maybe get out of your won arse once in a while and the hype and lies you spewed for months about the game. Yes i did decided to try the game, just so that fanbois like you woldnt bash me for not trying it, but even with trying it you cant see your arsee from your elbow. Maybe i send you a screenshot of my account page just to prove to you i played the game, also have kilelr rhino lol:P what a waste. Avery next time any game that comes out and is hyped maybe take an objective look at the game. Avery you can have your 5fps 30 man on screen pvp lol, and your devolution in mmo games. Had enough talking about this sad pathetic exuse for a game, that was hyped by Failcom and you for 2+ years.
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Since when in an MMO do you have to get close to max level to experience "the real game"? Are you saying that sub level 80 the game is nothing real? Do the same mechanics not apply? Why should anyone have to trudge through 90% of a game to get to the actual game? A game is the same from 1-max with slight advancements along the way. If a game is crap in the first 50+ levels and then golden in its prime max level, thats total BS. Thats like being forced to watch Golden Girls for 2 hours at a theater before seeing the feature you paid to see.
Never said the first levels are crap. They are actually part of the highlight of playing the game(see Tortage and the numerous instances/quests currently implemented)
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by fyerwall
Originally posted by Narco28
Avery, maybe get out of your won arse once in a while and the hype and lies you spewed for months about the game. Yes i did decided to try the game, just so that fanbois like you woldnt bash me for not trying it, but even with trying it you cant see your arsee from your elbow. Maybe i send you a screenshot of my account page just to prove to you i played the game, also have kilelr rhino lol:P what a waste. Avery next time any game that comes out and is hyped maybe take an objective look at the game. Avery you can have your 5fps 30 man on screen pvp lol, and your devolution in mmo games. Had enough talking about this sad pathetic exuse for a game, that was hyped by Failcom and you for 2+ years.
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Since when in an MMO do you have to get close to max level to experience "the real game"? Are you saying that sub level 80 the game is nothing real? Do the same mechanics not apply? Why should anyone have to trudge through 90% of a game to get to the actual game? A game is the same from 1-max with slight advancements along the way. If a game is crap in the first 50+ levels and then golden in its prime max level, thats total BS. Thats like being forced to watch Golden Girls for 2 hours at a theater before seeing the feature you paid to see.
I'm sorry, but thats like the worst defense of gameplay I have ever read.
A 20 year prison sentence gets better once your in your final year as well. Just have to look past all the late night encounters with Bubba and not being able to sit for days on end...
We are talking siege battles here, something the complainers have no experience in. Hardly holds up in mmorpg.com court of law.
Watch out for War. If FC can polish it up as it should of been then we can expect something great like it should of been from the start, instead of a notch below "great". Still they should be in a better position come fall.
Simple fact is Failcom were in the shitter, if they didnt release, they would have gone bankrupt....
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Highly disagree with this. I think FC would have been much more successful if they pushed their release right next to WARs. If the game was finished, now would be the best time. It may even benefit over the fact that they are basically the only new AAA game that has the court in the summer, but even then it might have been more beneficial if they pushed it back with WAR.
For one, this benefits both WAR and AoC. It would definitely create some great selling atmosphere and a lot of "drama" to the gaming community (if some people really want to make drama over a video game, which people do...). Much more free advertising for both games from all over the web, game stores, and other gaming sources. Both would get great box-selling statistics. This brings up the second; because of the time AoC is released, it was impeccable that they would gain a huge (at this point almost 700k boxes actually sold I think, someone give me a link!) amount of boxes sold. The problem is... the game isn't finished. The benefit of having and keeping player subs is much more beneficial over the long run than boxes sold. Which brings up the third reason, the most obvious, AoC would actually be able to release the game finished. As many know, a good launch is very critical to the success of an MMO... though not a make-or-break, still very critical. Though many would disagree on these forums (a very high amount I presume being people who haven't even played the game) the launch was semi-successful. Tortage helped the view of the game greatly, but considering the leveling gain and content that they offer in-game can be burned through so quickly, people are discovering flaws much more quickly... the biggest in my eyes being almost no content past 55 and the second being no purpose to PvP when it's advertised to be a mostly pvp game.
Though I do believe that, considering how great in my eyes the first 40 levels are when it comes to content, the game will eventually be fantastic. It's success is rocky at this point. I do believe FC can pull through, though. They need to be smart enough to realize that these issues all need to be fixed pronto, before WAR is released or even a month within released, or else they are going to be swallowed whole. UNLESS they have a prayer that WAR releases in as bad a shape that AoC released; though considering the company over WAR is Mythic, the game has this much more time, and that they get a glimpse of how important a perfect launch is by watching AoC's stumbles, I highly doubt it. But, I do believe AoC can fix these issues within that time. Like I said earlier, considering the huge amount of fixes they made in this past month, I can easily see AoC adding everything they promised, though it's still only a hope and not a guarantee.
Your drama is ridiculous, Sir Martie. It's good for adding attention but at this point is just over the top... I'm not sure what FC could have done to given you this much of a hatred over a video game but you need to start posting sense now before people ever take you seriously. Whether you like it or not, in any circumstance, AoC will survive in the long run and eventually fix everything. If SWG is still alive after all it's gone through, I don't see AoC going away for a long time.
EDIT: TO AMAZING AVERY: lol I can just imagine him behind the computer screen laughing. Who the hell are you people to insult someone over a video game? After looking at all this crap on this single thread I can't believe how you all are deliberately attacking someone over an MMO. He's showing great maturity in the fact that he isn't insulting anyone back... all the posts I see from him are just facts of the game, a lot of hype towards the game, and nothing negative. Why is this not aloud? If you like a game post all the crap you want, as long as you aren't making yourself look like a dick. Though he isn't immature about it like a whole group of you are taking it. I'd call him a fanbody if he was posting crap that was untrue. Every single post I've seen from him was fact, so I'll call him a fanboy (he HAS to admit this) but not a rabid one
Just wanted to give AA some well-needed defense. Keep a cool head man and keep laughing.
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts(the real meat and bones). So in summary, play the full game then talk.
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts. So in summary, play the full game then talk.
But then if the first 50 levels suck you have to keep pushing through to get to the end before the game becomes good? If a game sucks for the first 90% of the game why should anyone have to make max to experience the best the game has to offer? A game is supposed to be fun all through out, from start to finish.
I played 38 levels and it was a very standard fare. I shouldnt have to torture myself to get to the 'fun'.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts. So in summary, play the full game then talk.
But then if the first 50 levels suck you have to keep pushing through to get to the end before the game becomes good? If a game sucks for the first 90% of the game why should anyone have to make max to experience the best the game has to offer? A game is supposed to be fun all through out, from start to finish.
I played 38 levels and it was a very standard fare. I shouldnt have to torture myself to get to the 'fun'.
See where I stated that the leveling process is fun? Fun meaning does not suck?
If WAR has a good strong launch I expect 300-400k. Only if Funcom delivers what's promised, and people come back in a few months and decide to stay, then it might go past 250k. Of course Funcom realizes now all the flaws, instead of waiting a bit and working them out in beta. For the casuals who take their sweet time leveling they think everything's fine...
Also as to the whole "get to max level before you talk" debate, I think if there's problems you experience at a lower level you have the right to let that affect your opinion. Even if it is at level 55 or whatever...you don't have to be level 80 to be an expert at it. Though I will agree that I tend to give more credability to people who are 80, it's not a requirement.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts. So in summary, play the full game then talk.
But then if the first 50 levels suck you have to keep pushing through to get to the end before the game becomes good? If a game sucks for the first 90% of the game why should anyone have to make max to experience the best the game has to offer? A game is supposed to be fun all through out, from start to finish.
I played 38 levels and it was a very standard fare. I shouldnt have to torture myself to get to the 'fun'.
See where I stated that the leveling process is fun? Fun meaning does not suck?
Fun for you maybe, but to other people its the same Fed Ex style quests that have you running to and from, which can be quite boring and suck. Why should any one have to endure hours of boredom just to get to the real meat and bones (which gameplay is the real meat and bones, not the end game content)?
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts. So in summary, play the full game then talk.
But then if the first 50 levels suck you have to keep pushing through to get to the end before the game becomes good? If a game sucks for the first 90% of the game why should anyone have to make max to experience the best the game has to offer? A game is supposed to be fun all through out, from start to finish.
I played 38 levels and it was a very standard fare. I shouldnt have to torture myself to get to the 'fun'.
See where I stated that the leveling process is fun? Fun meaning does not suck?
Man if the game sucks so much that the leveling is more fun than the stuff at level 80, when you should be able to do everything, not just quests/grind...ouch.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Simple fact is Failcom were in the shitter, if they didnt release, they would have gone bankrupt....
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Highly disagree with this. I think FC would have been much more successful if they pushed their release right next to WARs. If the game was finished, now would be the best time. It may even benefit over the fact that they are basically the only new AAA game that has the court in the summer, but even then it might have been more beneficial if they pushed it back with WAR.
For one, this benefits both WAR and AoC. It would definitely create some great selling atmosphere and a lot of "drama" to the gaming community (if some people really want to make drama over a video game, which people do...). Much more free advertising for both games from all over the web, game stores, and other gaming sources. Both would get great box-selling statistics. This brings up the second; because of the time AoC is released, it was impeccable that they would gain a huge (at this point almost 700k boxes actually sold I think, someone give me a link!) amount of boxes sold. The problem is... the game isn't finished. The benefit of having and keeping player subs is much more beneficial over the long run than boxes sold. Which brings up the third reason, the most obvious, AoC would actually be able to release the game finished. As many know, a good launch is very critical to the success of an MMO... though not a make-or-break, still very critical. Though many would disagree on these forums (a very high amount I presume being people who haven't even played the game) the launch was semi-successful. Tortage helped the view of the game greatly, but considering the leveling gain and content that they offer in-game can be burned through so quickly, people are discovering flaws much more quickly... the biggest in my eyes being almost no content past 55 and the second being no purpose to PvP when it's advertised to be a mostly pvp game.
Though I do believe that, considering how great in my eyes the first 40 levels are when it comes to content, the game will eventually be fantastic. It's success is rocky at this point. I do believe FC can pull through, though. They need to be smart enough to realize that these issues all need to be fixed pronto, before WAR is released or even a month within released, or else they are going to be swallowed whole. UNLESS they have a prayer that WAR releases in as bad a shape that AoC released; though considering the company over WAR is Mythic, the game has this much more time, and that they get a glimpse of how important a perfect launch is by watching AoC's stumbles, I highly doubt it. But, I do believe AoC can fix these issues within that time. Like I said earlier, considering the huge amount of fixes they made in this past month, I can easily see AoC adding everything they promised, though it's still only a hope and not a guarantee.
Your drama is ridiculous, Sir Martie. It's good for adding attention but at this point is just over the top... I'm not sure what FC could have done to given you this much of a hatred over a video game but you need to start posting sense now before people ever take you seriously. Whether you like it or not, in any circumstance, AoC will survive in the long run and eventually fix everything. If SWG is still alive after all it's gone through, I don't see AoC going away for a long time.
I didnt say aoc is going to die. What we were promised was a revolutionary next gen mmo game, that was being hyped by the fanbois here and failcom as the next big thing that would destroy wow and everything else. So from going to being a wow killer, you have now decided it will do ok with maybe 150-200k players if they even manage to retain those numbers. Sorry yes I ma angry, because what was hyped and what was delivered was totally different, another reason im angry was beta was full of fanbois going around saying everything was rosy, and if you said things were not then you would get the good old fashioned "go back to wow" so much for beta testing to make the game better. Infact there was no testing and the only testing now is being done by people paying for it.
I don't disagree with your first statement one bit, like I said in my first response. FC made a big mistake with this marketting... it's repeating history like they did with AO. False promises work in the beginning but just don't cut it in an MMO when you need to actually keep customers.
And in all honesty, like I said about a month or so back about this game being a WoW killer, I still see that happening. If both WAR and AoC become successful (most importantly FC getting their **** together), they are going to grow from eachother. They will eventually, with the help of WoW killing itself, take it from the market and make themselves top dogs. They never said they intended to kill WoW, we the customers hyped it up to be so. And I never said it will be a WoW killer instantaneously... that's blasphemy (this is sparta? don't think blasphemy is the right word but you get my drift). It will be a long decline (years) of the game and the growth of these new games taking over.
Before I respond to your constant implementation of the game not being properly tested, what do you consider testing for an MMO?
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts(the real meat and bones). So in summary, play the full game then talk.
So what dstarts at lvl 80, you mean
1) the 30 man instanced siege were fps is at 5 fps, and if your lucky you an get 30 fps?
2) the 2 raid dungeons that are worthless, which even Failcom states that they drop nothing. Even Aoc official forums there are people lvl 80 saying there is no content and nothing to do except roll alts.
So please tell me what real meat of the game you are talking about.
Next time read through the posts, since this information was already given. I will refresh for the negligent though : Click for Raid Content info. And maybe my guilds raid last thurs was some kind of dream? Again talking out the ass of something you know nothing about.
We are also getting ready for the upcoming siege battles that Funcom is perfecting.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Martie
Originally posted by Narco28
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts(the real meat and bones). So in summary, play the full game then talk.
So what dstarts at lvl 80, you mean
1) the 30 man instanced siege were fps is at 5 fps, and if your lucky you an get 30 fps?
2) the 2 raid dungeons that are worthless, which even Failcom states that they drop nothing. Even Aoc official forums there are people lvl 80 saying there is no content and nothing to do except roll alts.
So please tell me what real meat of the game you are talking about.
Martie, you need to calm down.
1. Its not 30 man instanced sieging. Its 96 zoned Sieging, guild cities are not instanced, they are zoned.
2. If you knew anything about the game there are more than 2 raid dungeons. As your aware raid dungeons open up at level 80 - you say you got to level 55, you have no experience here and it shows.
You need to stop pulling numbers out your backside. Its obvious if people are saying where is the content for raids at level 80, they need to find them. I mean the game comes with a map you can bring up in game. There is sieging aimed at end game, this has only just kicked off, there is crafting, where most of it works. My resource inventory is full as well as my bank of materials and constantly find I have to drop stuff.
So please tell me from your OWN experience what there is to do at level 80?
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Bigger than the 20 mans on screen 5 FPS? lol worst thing about it is that its instanced so it should cause even less lag, hell i goe better fps when a 40 man horde raid attack IF, with about 200 people on screen in IF. Game design is pure console game. Aoc is a story based game like all games you mean? Hell what is the story in aoc, i dotn even know. Because playing upto lvl 55 i didnt even know what the story was ingame, are we meant to kill conan or something? War already has more people in in open world RVR zone than aoc has in an instanced so called next gen pvp siege with 20 people at 5 fps. hell even AV in wow has more people in a zone doing pvp, hell even going down more AB has more people on screen with 100x better fps. Aoc is a failure in game design and pvp, what i did like about it for 2 years was the hype and the spin though, but then release came and shit really hit the fan.
You lost all credential after you stated one simple fact: you only played to lvl 55. You know nothing about 20 man raids and what kind of FPS people have. I do not have a tippy-top of the line comp and I play AOC on High settings perfectly during raids. So quit talking out your ass about something you know nothing about.
I am currently in a top raiding guild in Conan and from my experience (and the general experience of everyone in the guild) is that Conan, as a game, is great. Why you might ask? The reason is simple; IT IS FUN. Funcom has done something other mmorpg's have forgotten, and that is to make the game fun. PVE raids are really a blast and soon the pvp sieges will also be a load of FUN as well.
The reality is all the "naysayers" are always finding ways to trash this game. First they said AOC's launch will be comparable to that of Vanguard. And what happened? AOC had one of the smoothest launches in mmorpg history(even better than that of WoW: wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Epidemic-Obesity/Age-of-Conan-Poised-to-Dominate-WoW/). FUNcom delivers.
GET OVER IT. AOC is a good fun game. Funcom has delivered so far as I am concerned, and AOC will only get better with time. Don't like it? Good, go back to WoW or spend your money on WoW recreated under the name of "WarHammer". Either way you not playing = less drama and more bandwith for the rest of us (Win- Win situation).
Yes you absolutely right bro!!
You are absolutely SO RIGHT EVEN! that the Game Director himself is a troll coming with a panic statement that FIXING Horrible FPS and Horrible LAG in PVP Siegewarfare has gotten TOP priority!
Let's see who has now lost every sense of credibility here huh
Cheers
20 man's are fine(It's actually 24 man when full). How do I know? I did one last night. And maybe read a little closer what I stated directly about sieges.
Are you talking about the one running in what looks like1024x768 resolution with the giant UI buttons?
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Of course! That's what's most important for the genre: who is top dog. Here I was thinking that it would be better to have a genre with more than one strong title.
Silly me!
When it comes along let me know.
Do I PM or call you?
Of course it's all relative to personal taste and the amount of shine, bling bling (polish).
Not that I dislike AoC (or WAR for that matter, I hope both are successful), but FC has promised a lot already. If they delivered all that they promised at launch, we wouldn't be having all these issues now.
If they deliver all that they promise this time, maybe they'll be alot more successful now, but they'd be much more prosperous if they promised honestly in the first place. That's down the pooper at this point. They may have made a good amount of box sales, but whether or not they keep the flow going and subscriptions at a steady pace is questionable at this point... though I hope they pull through.
Why do people flame against a game with very unique features when they themselves are screaming superiority about a game that they haven't even gotten close to playing yet? I played AoC for two characters to lvl 80 and I find it hell-o fun. I am very dissapointed in Funcom for releasing a half-broken game, but if the unbroken part I did play was "hell-o fun" then I can't wait until the whole thing is fixed! Even then they announced that WAR's combat was going to be right-click auto-attack like WoW (not saying that they are the same thing, just noticable similarities). so please stop bitching, both of you, and also stop pretending your some englishman by saying "cheers" after all of your posts, its annoying.
Bigger than the 20 mans on screen 5 FPS? lol worst thing about it is that its instanced so it should cause even less lag, hell i goe better fps when a 40 man horde raid attack IF, with about 200 people on screen in IF. Game design is pure console game. Aoc is a story based game like all games you mean? Hell what is the story in aoc, i dotn even know. Because playing upto lvl 55 i didnt even know what the story was ingame, are we meant to kill conan or something? War already has more people in in open world RVR zone than aoc has in an instanced so called next gen pvp siege with 20 people at 5 fps. hell even AV in wow has more people in a zone doing pvp, hell even going down more AB has more people on screen with 100x better fps. Aoc is a failure in game design and pvp, what i did like about it for 2 years was the hype and the spin though, but then release came and shit really hit the fan.
You lost all credential after you stated one simple fact: you only played to lvl 55. You know nothing about 20 man raids and what kind of FPS people have. I do not have a tippy-top of the line comp and I play AOC on High settings perfectly during raids. So quit talking out your ass about something you know nothing about.
I am currently in a top raiding guild in Conan and from my experience (and the general experience of everyone in the guild) is that Conan, as a game, is great. Why you might ask? The reason is simple; IT IS FUN. Funcom has done something other mmorpg's have forgotten, and that is to make the game fun. PVE raids are really a blast and soon the pvp sieges will also be a load of FUN as well.
The reality is all the "naysayers" are always finding ways to trash this game. First they said AOC's launch will be comparable to that of Vanguard. And what happened? AOC had one of the smoothest launches in mmorpg history(even better than that of WoW: wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Epidemic-Obesity/Age-of-Conan-Poised-to-Dominate-WoW/). FUNcom delivers.
GET OVER IT. AOC is a good fun game. Funcom has delivered so far as I am concerned, and AOC will only get better with time. Don't like it? Good, go back to WoW or spend your money on WoW recreated under the name of "WarHammer". Either way you not playing = less drama and more bandwith for the rest of us (Win- Win situation).
What 20 man raids? I never said i knew about aoc siege, ive seen videos enough of the siege where even the peopel saying it with 20-30 people on screen caused etween 2-5 fps.
etween 2-5 fps.
Check out the other video where there is above 20fps easy on the front page here. Take off fraps and you have 30fps +
Oh and Narco, martie has NOT played the retail version, he just beta'd it in tortage.
Oh look who it is, aoc number 1 poster boy. I have actually played this pathetic game to lvl 55 as a barb. So thats that out of the way. And you say the 2nd video has 20 fps and upto 30 taking of fraps, please avery now Ive heard it all. You come here now trying to make it out how having 20 fps in pvp with 20-30 people on screen at the same time is good. Avery Maybe i will carry to login to beta as well to see if i get any ebtter fps with 2 people on screen, shame you cant join as you were never in. The worst thign about you Avery is even if you knew the game was crap you wouldnt say it, because you have been the number 1 spin and hype merchant here for so long, that saying its bad would mean everything you spewed for a year was crap. Sorry I take nothing you say anymore as serious anymore.
Mate, like anything you say is serious, how many times you been banned from here? You said spellweaving was not in for launch, it was. Siege battles are happening with bugs, yes bugs. If you take a look here: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6192732/index.html?part=rss&tag=gs_features&subj=6192732 harware performance guide, its quite obvious when there is a siege battle frame rates will drop, just like on shadowbane and Daoc. Fraps takes off 9 fps when not in use on my system. Even the LoTD guy who made the video says experienced no where near as much lag as the other guild, and was very playable, ableit the bugs.
You bashed the game from 3 months back, you would never buy the retail version, said so yourself. You have never played the retail version, you beta tested tortage for 2 weeks thats its.
Please stop dribbling and foaming at the mouth and move on. You came here to bash the game, and you have just beta experience with it, mate move on, wipe the foam from your mouth and take your crap elsewhere.
If Funcom can fix the game up properly in the next few months, it will make sieges very enjoyable. They have a headstart of other games coming out in the fall with sieges who will have growing pains too. Ball is in there court but for now its playable and fun even with the bugs.
We all know you never played the game from launch, stop kidding yourself.
Raid content: www.dread-guild.com/viewtopic.php (loots/mobs etc.) And soon pvp siege warfare will be perfected as well. Quit talking out your ass about a game you have barely played.
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I agree. There is nothing worst on these boards then a pusher of crap gaming. Avery can't even admit anything is wrong with the game, either he is under contract , or not really a mmo gamer....
post history FTW mate.
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
You see how most of your post is underlined in red? That means you should spell better.
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Since when in an MMO do you have to get close to max level to experience "the real game"? Are you saying that sub level 80 the game is nothing real? Do the same mechanics not apply? Why should anyone have to trudge through 90% of a game to get to the actual game? A game is the same from 1-max with slight advancements along the way. If a game is crap in the first 50+ levels and then golden in its prime max level, thats total BS. Thats like being forced to watch Golden Girls for 2 hours at a theater before seeing the feature you paid to see.
I'm sorry, but thats like the worst defense of gameplay I have ever read.
A 20 year prison sentence gets better once your in your final year as well. Just have to look past all the late night encounters with Bubba and not being able to sit for days on end...
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Since when in an MMO do you have to get close to max level to experience "the real game"? Are you saying that sub level 80 the game is nothing real? Do the same mechanics not apply? Why should anyone have to trudge through 90% of a game to get to the actual game? A game is the same from 1-max with slight advancements along the way. If a game is crap in the first 50+ levels and then golden in its prime max level, thats total BS. Thats like being forced to watch Golden Girls for 2 hours at a theater before seeing the feature you paid to see.
Never said the first levels are crap. They are actually part of the highlight of playing the game(see Tortage and the numerous instances/quests currently implemented)
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Since when in an MMO do you have to get close to max level to experience "the real game"? Are you saying that sub level 80 the game is nothing real? Do the same mechanics not apply? Why should anyone have to trudge through 90% of a game to get to the actual game? A game is the same from 1-max with slight advancements along the way. If a game is crap in the first 50+ levels and then golden in its prime max level, thats total BS. Thats like being forced to watch Golden Girls for 2 hours at a theater before seeing the feature you paid to see.
Never said the first levels are crap. They are actually part of the highlight of playing the game(see Tortage and the numerous instances/quests currently implemented)
Aye, but according to your logic the first few levels are not part of the real game.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
You played to maybe 55 (could be bs). Meaning; you have barely gotten into the real game. Get to 80 then talk.
Since when in an MMO do you have to get close to max level to experience "the real game"? Are you saying that sub level 80 the game is nothing real? Do the same mechanics not apply? Why should anyone have to trudge through 90% of a game to get to the actual game? A game is the same from 1-max with slight advancements along the way. If a game is crap in the first 50+ levels and then golden in its prime max level, thats total BS. Thats like being forced to watch Golden Girls for 2 hours at a theater before seeing the feature you paid to see.
I'm sorry, but thats like the worst defense of gameplay I have ever read.
A 20 year prison sentence gets better once your in your final year as well. Just have to look past all the late night encounters with Bubba and not being able to sit for days on end...
We are talking siege battles here, something the complainers have no experience in. Hardly holds up in mmorpg.com court of law.
Watch out for War. If FC can polish it up as it should of been then we can expect something great like it should of been from the start, instead of a notch below "great". Still they should be in a better position come fall.
Simple fact is Failcom were in the shitter, if they didnt release, they would have gone bankrupt....
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Highly disagree with this. I think FC would have been much more successful if they pushed their release right next to WARs. If the game was finished, now would be the best time. It may even benefit over the fact that they are basically the only new AAA game that has the court in the summer, but even then it might have been more beneficial if they pushed it back with WAR.
For one, this benefits both WAR and AoC. It would definitely create some great selling atmosphere and a lot of "drama" to the gaming community (if some people really want to make drama over a video game, which people do...). Much more free advertising for both games from all over the web, game stores, and other gaming sources. Both would get great box-selling statistics. This brings up the second; because of the time AoC is released, it was impeccable that they would gain a huge (at this point almost 700k boxes actually sold I think, someone give me a link!) amount of boxes sold. The problem is... the game isn't finished. The benefit of having and keeping player subs is much more beneficial over the long run than boxes sold. Which brings up the third reason, the most obvious, AoC would actually be able to release the game finished. As many know, a good launch is very critical to the success of an MMO... though not a make-or-break, still very critical. Though many would disagree on these forums (a very high amount I presume being people who haven't even played the game) the launch was semi-successful. Tortage helped the view of the game greatly, but considering the leveling gain and content that they offer in-game can be burned through so quickly, people are discovering flaws much more quickly... the biggest in my eyes being almost no content past 55 and the second being no purpose to PvP when it's advertised to be a mostly pvp game.
Though I do believe that, considering how great in my eyes the first 40 levels are when it comes to content, the game will eventually be fantastic. It's success is rocky at this point. I do believe FC can pull through, though. They need to be smart enough to realize that these issues all need to be fixed pronto, before WAR is released or even a month within released, or else they are going to be swallowed whole. UNLESS they have a prayer that WAR releases in as bad a shape that AoC released; though considering the company over WAR is Mythic, the game has this much more time, and that they get a glimpse of how important a perfect launch is by watching AoC's stumbles, I highly doubt it. But, I do believe AoC can fix these issues within that time. Like I said earlier, considering the huge amount of fixes they made in this past month, I can easily see AoC adding everything they promised, though it's still only a hope and not a guarantee.
Your drama is ridiculous, Sir Martie. It's good for adding attention but at this point is just over the top... I'm not sure what FC could have done to given you this much of a hatred over a video game but you need to start posting sense now before people ever take you seriously. Whether you like it or not, in any circumstance, AoC will survive in the long run and eventually fix everything. If SWG is still alive after all it's gone through, I don't see AoC going away for a long time.
EDIT: TO AMAZING AVERY: lol I can just imagine him behind the computer screen laughing. Who the hell are you people to insult someone over a video game? After looking at all this crap on this single thread I can't believe how you all are deliberately attacking someone over an MMO. He's showing great maturity in the fact that he isn't insulting anyone back... all the posts I see from him are just facts of the game, a lot of hype towards the game, and nothing negative. Why is this not aloud? If you like a game post all the crap you want, as long as you aren't making yourself look like a dick. Though he isn't immature about it like a whole group of you are taking it. I'd call him a fanbody if he was posting crap that was untrue. Every single post I've seen from him was fact, so I'll call him a fanboy (he HAS to admit this) but not a rabid one
Just wanted to give AA some well-needed defense. Keep a cool head man and keep laughing.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts(the real meat and bones). So in summary, play the full game then talk.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts. So in summary, play the full game then talk.
But then if the first 50 levels suck you have to keep pushing through to get to the end before the game becomes good? If a game sucks for the first 90% of the game why should anyone have to make max to experience the best the game has to offer? A game is supposed to be fun all through out, from start to finish.
I played 38 levels and it was a very standard fare. I shouldnt have to torture myself to get to the 'fun'.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts. So in summary, play the full game then talk.
But then if the first 50 levels suck you have to keep pushing through to get to the end before the game becomes good? If a game sucks for the first 90% of the game why should anyone have to make max to experience the best the game has to offer? A game is supposed to be fun all through out, from start to finish.
I played 38 levels and it was a very standard fare. I shouldnt have to torture myself to get to the 'fun'.
See where I stated that the leveling process is fun? Fun meaning does not suck?
~250k subs in 6 months.
If WAR has a good strong launch I expect 300-400k. Only if Funcom delivers what's promised, and people come back in a few months and decide to stay, then it might go past 250k. Of course Funcom realizes now all the flaws, instead of waiting a bit and working them out in beta. For the casuals who take their sweet time leveling they think everything's fine...
Also as to the whole "get to max level before you talk" debate, I think if there's problems you experience at a lower level you have the right to let that affect your opinion. Even if it is at level 55 or whatever...you don't have to be level 80 to be an expert at it. Though I will agree that I tend to give more credability to people who are 80, it's not a requirement.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts. So in summary, play the full game then talk.
But then if the first 50 levels suck you have to keep pushing through to get to the end before the game becomes good? If a game sucks for the first 90% of the game why should anyone have to make max to experience the best the game has to offer? A game is supposed to be fun all through out, from start to finish.
I played 38 levels and it was a very standard fare. I shouldnt have to torture myself to get to the 'fun'.
See where I stated that the leveling process is fun? Fun meaning does not suck?
Fun for you maybe, but to other people its the same Fed Ex style quests that have you running to and from, which can be quite boring and suck. Why should any one have to endure hours of boredom just to get to the real meat and bones (which gameplay is the real meat and bones, not the end game content)?
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts. So in summary, play the full game then talk.
But then if the first 50 levels suck you have to keep pushing through to get to the end before the game becomes good? If a game sucks for the first 90% of the game why should anyone have to make max to experience the best the game has to offer? A game is supposed to be fun all through out, from start to finish.
I played 38 levels and it was a very standard fare. I shouldnt have to torture myself to get to the 'fun'.
See where I stated that the leveling process is fun? Fun meaning does not suck?
Man if the game sucks so much that the leveling is more fun than the stuff at level 80, when you should be able to do everything, not just quests/grind...ouch.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Simple fact is Failcom were in the shitter, if they didnt release, they would have gone bankrupt....
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Highly disagree with this. I think FC would have been much more successful if they pushed their release right next to WARs. If the game was finished, now would be the best time. It may even benefit over the fact that they are basically the only new AAA game that has the court in the summer, but even then it might have been more beneficial if they pushed it back with WAR.
For one, this benefits both WAR and AoC. It would definitely create some great selling atmosphere and a lot of "drama" to the gaming community (if some people really want to make drama over a video game, which people do...). Much more free advertising for both games from all over the web, game stores, and other gaming sources. Both would get great box-selling statistics. This brings up the second; because of the time AoC is released, it was impeccable that they would gain a huge (at this point almost 700k boxes actually sold I think, someone give me a link!) amount of boxes sold. The problem is... the game isn't finished. The benefit of having and keeping player subs is much more beneficial over the long run than boxes sold. Which brings up the third reason, the most obvious, AoC would actually be able to release the game finished. As many know, a good launch is very critical to the success of an MMO... though not a make-or-break, still very critical. Though many would disagree on these forums (a very high amount I presume being people who haven't even played the game) the launch was semi-successful. Tortage helped the view of the game greatly, but considering the leveling gain and content that they offer in-game can be burned through so quickly, people are discovering flaws much more quickly... the biggest in my eyes being almost no content past 55 and the second being no purpose to PvP when it's advertised to be a mostly pvp game.
Though I do believe that, considering how great in my eyes the first 40 levels are when it comes to content, the game will eventually be fantastic. It's success is rocky at this point. I do believe FC can pull through, though. They need to be smart enough to realize that these issues all need to be fixed pronto, before WAR is released or even a month within released, or else they are going to be swallowed whole. UNLESS they have a prayer that WAR releases in as bad a shape that AoC released; though considering the company over WAR is Mythic, the game has this much more time, and that they get a glimpse of how important a perfect launch is by watching AoC's stumbles, I highly doubt it. But, I do believe AoC can fix these issues within that time. Like I said earlier, considering the huge amount of fixes they made in this past month, I can easily see AoC adding everything they promised, though it's still only a hope and not a guarantee.
Your drama is ridiculous, Sir Martie. It's good for adding attention but at this point is just over the top... I'm not sure what FC could have done to given you this much of a hatred over a video game but you need to start posting sense now before people ever take you seriously. Whether you like it or not, in any circumstance, AoC will survive in the long run and eventually fix everything. If SWG is still alive after all it's gone through, I don't see AoC going away for a long time.
I didnt say aoc is going to die. What we were promised was a revolutionary next gen mmo game, that was being hyped by the fanbois here and failcom as the next big thing that would destroy wow and everything else. So from going to being a wow killer, you have now decided it will do ok with maybe 150-200k players if they even manage to retain those numbers. Sorry yes I ma angry, because what was hyped and what was delivered was totally different, another reason im angry was beta was full of fanbois going around saying everything was rosy, and if you said things were not then you would get the good old fashioned "go back to wow" so much for beta testing to make the game better. Infact there was no testing and the only testing now is being done by people paying for it.
I don't disagree with your first statement one bit, like I said in my first response. FC made a big mistake with this marketting... it's repeating history like they did with AO. False promises work in the beginning but just don't cut it in an MMO when you need to actually keep customers.
And in all honesty, like I said about a month or so back about this game being a WoW killer, I still see that happening. If both WAR and AoC become successful (most importantly FC getting their **** together), they are going to grow from eachother. They will eventually, with the help of WoW killing itself, take it from the market and make themselves top dogs. They never said they intended to kill WoW, we the customers hyped it up to be so. And I never said it will be a WoW killer instantaneously... that's blasphemy (this is sparta? don't think blasphemy is the right word but you get my drift). It will be a long decline (years) of the game and the growth of these new games taking over.
Before I respond to your constant implementation of the game not being properly tested, what do you consider testing for an MMO?
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts(the real meat and bones). So in summary, play the full game then talk.
So what dstarts at lvl 80, you mean
1) the 30 man instanced siege were fps is at 5 fps, and if your lucky you an get 30 fps?
2) the 2 raid dungeons that are worthless, which even Failcom states that they drop nothing. Even Aoc official forums there are people lvl 80 saying there is no content and nothing to do except roll alts.
So please tell me what real meat of the game you are talking about.
Next time read through the posts, since this information was already given. I will refresh for the negligent though : Click for Raid Content info. And maybe my guilds raid last thurs was some kind of dream? Again talking out the ass of something you know nothing about.
We are also getting ready for the upcoming siege battles that Funcom is perfecting.
Exactly. The leveling process is fun but when you actually hit 80, the real fun starts(the real meat and bones). So in summary, play the full game then talk.
So what dstarts at lvl 80, you mean
1) the 30 man instanced siege were fps is at 5 fps, and if your lucky you an get 30 fps?
2) the 2 raid dungeons that are worthless, which even Failcom states that they drop nothing. Even Aoc official forums there are people lvl 80 saying there is no content and nothing to do except roll alts.
So please tell me what real meat of the game you are talking about.
Martie, you need to calm down.
1. Its not 30 man instanced sieging. Its 96 zoned Sieging, guild cities are not instanced, they are zoned.
2. If you knew anything about the game there are more than 2 raid dungeons. As your aware raid dungeons open up at level 80 - you say you got to level 55, you have no experience here and it shows.
You need to stop pulling numbers out your backside. Its obvious if people are saying where is the content for raids at level 80, they need to find them. I mean the game comes with a map you can bring up in game. There is sieging aimed at end game, this has only just kicked off, there is crafting, where most of it works. My resource inventory is full as well as my bank of materials and constantly find I have to drop stuff.
So please tell me from your OWN experience what there is to do at level 80?