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My problem, Solution in LotRO?

I love MMO's, at least, I used to.  I still love the "IDEA" of what an MMO is.  Going online, meeting friends, grouping together, questing together, just having fun together.  (notice the use of the word together).



I dont play MMO's to be by myself, but it appears i am very much in the minority.  I dont mind playing by myself when I only have a little bit of time, or while im waiting for a group.  But it very much seems that every game has gone the way of the Solo title.  Ive tried a good portion of games over the past few weeks, and all seem to be the same way.  Solo until you reach a quest you cant do alone, group to finish the quest, then everyone goes their seperate ways.  Now this could very well be that I rarely get past level 30 or so in these games because im tired of spending the entire week by myself.

 

Im looking for a game that gives incentives for people to group for longer than 15 minutes.  One where you get to be a part of a great community.  One where people want to group up because its more benificial.  I want to know if LotRO is this way?  Do people group up throughout the levels?  Is there incentives for peole to group and go after the big bad evil guy at the bottom of the dungeon?  At the same time, i dont want a game where I have no choice but to group since everything is impossible to do during small play times.

 

Im really really looking for an MMO that I can be a part of, one where I talk about it when im not playing, one where I cant wait to get home and play it again.  Is this the game for me?  I would really appreciate any insight, wether it be my problems or if you know of a game for me based off my ramblings.



Thank you all in advance for any help/advice you have. 

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,941
    Originally posted by goose1009


    I love MMO's, at least, I used to.  I still love the "IDEA" of what an MMO is.  Going online, meeting friends, grouping together, questing together, just having fun together.  (notice the use of the word together).


    I dont play MMO's to be by myself, but it appears i am very much in the minority.  I dont mind playing by myself when I only have a little bit of time, or while im waiting for a group.  But it very much seems that every game has gone the way of the Solo title.  Ive tried a good portion of games over the past few weeks, and all seem to be the same way.  Solo until you reach a quest you cant do alone, group to finish the quest, then everyone goes their seperate ways.  Now this could very well be that I rarely get past level 30 or so in these games because im tired of spending the entire week by myself.
     
    Im looking for a game that gives incentives for people to group for longer than 15 minutes.  One where you get to be a part of a great community.  One where people want to group up because its more benificial.  I want to know if LotRO is this way?  Do people group up throughout the levels?  Is there incentives for peole to group and go after the big bad evil guy at the bottom of the dungeon?  At the same time, i dont want a game where I have no choice but to group since everything is impossible to do during small play times.
     
    Im really really looking for an MMO that I can be a part of, one where I talk about it when im not playing, one where I cant wait to get home and play it again.  Is this the game for me?  I would really appreciate any insight, wether it be my problems or if you know of a game for me based off my ramblings.


    Thank you all in advance for any help/advice you have. 



     

    LOTRO is made to solo all the way up.

    Yes, there are incentives to group in that the many (most?) of the book quests require a group. There are also a lot of regular group quests.

    But, if one doesn't want to do the group quests or push themselves through the book quests then they don't have to.

    If you are looking for a game where grouping is the norm (like final fantasy) the LOTRO is not for you. Many do group but not all do.

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  • SepulcherSepulcher Member Posts: 216

    I recently started playing LotRO.  Played for about 5 days and decided to buy it and get a 3 month subscription.  There is grouping all over the place.  Yes you can level to cap solo, but why?  If your whole goal in the game is just to hit the level cap then you are not enjoying it.  Slow down, read the quests, spend the time to get a group (takes me no longer than 30min tops), and enjoy the world.

    If you are into RP I highly recomend Landroval (server), tons of stuff to do that doesn't involve leveling.  The problem with most games is that people feel the need to rocket through the levels to get to the end game.  In LotRO I am thoroughly enjoying myself by slowing down and actually looking at what I am doing.  LotRO is more of a world than a game like many MMOs. 

    If you are looking for a good community and an interesting storyline, I recommend LotRO.

  • tmann50tmann50 Member UncommonPosts: 70

    Sure you can solo, but the group content is fun. There is so much of it that it makes soloing seem stupid as you can do much more in a group. I started out as a soloist, then got into some fellowships and watched my exp and wealth fly! As a result I'm in an awesome Kinship and having more fun then I have had in an MMO in many years! So yeah, I'd say you can group for as much or all of the game as you want and that there are tons fo groups for almost any quest or Book. Yet you can solo whenever you please if that pleases you.

  • jarishjarish Member Posts: 526

    Plus there are sweet conjuction attacks that you can only do while grouped.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,941

    yes but remember, he is looking for a game where grouping is the norm.

    I know there are a lot of groups, but I don't see it really being the norm. So he (she?) needs to be prepared for the "timbre" of the game which is very solo friendly and many do solo.

    I'd hate to see someone ask about the game, get the wrong idea only to come back angry because he/she can't get a group.

    Saying that "grouping is a lot more fun than soloing" doesn't mean that he/she is going to find more grouping.

    I'm on Brandywine and though it has a higher population and I see a lot of grouping I also see the consisntent shouting (to the point of whining and even begging) for a group to do "x" quest.

    So OP, please be advised that you will find groups but it isn't an automatic thing. You are not going to put out your "group shingle" and suddenlty be inundated with offers.

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  • goose1009goose1009 Member Posts: 28

    So overall do you think trying to level 70%/30% grouping/solo is feasable?  Also, is there a level where people typically start grouping up? So i know what to look forward to?  i got the game patching and im going to give it a shot.  I really really do help i meet some good people and get to join a great guild of people.

     

    How are the off hour players on Landroval?  Im american but currently live in germany, so there is a pretty big time difference for me.  I would love to play on a RP server and i hear Landroval is the unofficial RP server,  so it holds alot of appeal to me, but the time difference might suck.

     



    Thanks again for any help/advice Sovath.  you definately understand what im saying.  Im gonna try this out with some hesitation due to what you said.  Maybe i'll be pleseantly surprised, but you have not raised my hopes.  I appreciate your honesty in the matter.

  • OdyssesOdysses Member Posts: 581

    LoTRO is trying to tread the path of offering all playstyles for casual play.   Grouping is very advantageous, but since its, not required, I would say the game caters to the 75-25 percent for solo grouping.

    Your best bet as always is find people that share your playstyle of grouping.   It will make slay quests, deeds and other solo quests much less tedious.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,941
    Originally posted by goose1009


    So overall do you think trying to level 70%/30% grouping/solo is feasable?  Also, is there a level where people typically start grouping up? So i know what to look forward to?  i got the game patching and im going to give it a shot.  I really really do help i meet some good people and get to join a great guild of people.
     
    How are the off hour players on Landroval?  Im american but currently live in germany, so there is a pretty big time difference for me.  I would love to play on a RP server and i hear Landroval is the unofficial RP server,  so it holds alot of appeal to me, but the time difference might suck.
     


    Thanks again for any help/advice Sovath.  you definately understand what im saying.  Im gonna try this out with some hesitation due to what you said.  Maybe i'll be pleseantly surprised, but you have not raised my hopes.  I appreciate your honesty in the matter.



     

    Well technically you can group all the way up.

    Many of the book quests require a group and you just have to group. As does some of the higher lvl "dungeon" like places. I believe Carn Dum is one of them. I tried to sneak in there but was decimated pretty quickly. So, group needed.

    But because of the ease of being able to solo, you do find many people doing just that. It can be very fun to solo as I liken it to the "Kung Fu" man against the world type thing.



    But keep in mind some of the best times I've had in game was through grouping. I think by lvl 10? you will find some grouping quests. When the book quests start, at some point you have to group.

    Also, keep in mind that it has been said (and I would agree though your mileage will vary) that the classes don't really open up (nor the game) still late teens.

    Some of this is to be expected but you have to view this game as a casual game, one where you don't need to rush to lvl cap.

    Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb." 

    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • megaflux19megaflux19 Member Posts: 99

    i got 5 characters to cap in under 2 months soloing; except for a few occasions where someone happened to be standing right where the quest was.

    screw the books, if i want plot ill read one...and it wont be stupid. yea rift gear (of course i did THAT post level 50, since pre 50 it is just stupid) pvp (more stuff to group for AFTER lev 50) but really once i capped the first time it became obvious the gig was make a hunter and run around trying to poach beryl shard kills from people. though my champ does it with 1000x more style.

    i think the biggest problem with grouping in games these days is ..and i know some of you are going to love this.....ready.....

     

    WOW

     

    yes, since the average wow player is a teen of sub standard intelligence (or maybe their parent) we are looking pretty screwed. not simply because these people exist or play games..no no. because like anyone who can think for themselves they get bored and try other games, and now we have idiocy spreading. i dont avoid grouping with people because im an elitist a-hole (and love it), i avoid it because there is nothing worse than waiting 20 min for 1 moron to get to a point on a map that is 2 min from the starting location (and yes THAT happened in lotro) with the possible exception of every f-tard i have ever seen aggro a whole room of mobs because they are stupid and just have to know whats around the next corner, and then its "lawlz " followed by "its just a game,jeez" (i dont play to suck, dont know about you ladies) they are generally wearing cloth armor too! another reason is chatterboxes, use voice or get the job done silently! i am not going to sit here and carry on a conversation through my keyboard when every keystroke is a hit/kill (not that i even play with a keyboard since us elitists use n52 TE's) wasted.

    sorry to be so negative about it but it is the truth. ill say it again: lotro has 1 of the "oldest"/"mature" (ie NOT TOO MANY KIDDIES) playerbases i have ever seen. but they are the most helpless at the same time.

  • Gamer_17Gamer_17 Member Posts: 202

    I personally find lotro a very group oriented game (although it is possible to solo) although it is as you described everyone groups gets the quest done and departs some of the time but if you ask your group to go to a next quest in the region they mostly say yes even if they already have done it.

  • DeaWelshDeaWelsh Member CommonPosts: 34

    I would suggest joining a kinship if you want consistent grouping.   I'm sure others have suggested that.

    I like playing solo actually, and love how LOTRO allows that.   But it's nice being in a kinship to help other players, or call on them to help during group quests.    When I'm playing with others in a group it seems time-consuming, so I have to be in the mood. 

     

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