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State of AoC from me
ProfRed
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I thought it was a great launch, but I think they could of used a few months for polishing up the areas level 60-80 and end game stuff like sieging and raids. There are a lot of trolls here who never played the game and spread outdated info, but the game does need a good bit of work to keep people like me entertained. I am going to be going on vaca for the rest of summer and my laptop can't run this, but this is the kind of stuff I am hoping they address while i'm away. If they get some or most of it I will probably play again but that will depend on the games in my sig going into beta or releasing.
This needs to be done I think(Aside from bug fixing):
- Add another 70-80 ish area/zone stocked full of quests. Actually it really could use about 3 large new zones between 50-80.
- Add many more quests for levels 50-70.
- Add at least double the armor/weapons for levels 20-80.
- Revamp crafting, and add at least double the unique items to crafting.
- Get the pvp levels/exp and items up and running.
- Rework how apprentice xp is calculated or levels allowed. (If you don't know some guilds are making PVP squads rolling alts, and leveling them from 20-80 in a few days just AOE grinding in level 70-80 areas. Entire guilds are killing/ganking anyone that goes near their camps shutting down XP for other players which is very harmful because this is pretty much the way to level 65-80.)
- Rework many raids/dungeons to fix bugs, make AI/battles more interesting, and have more unique drops that are also useful in PVP. (Right now PVP Items from PVP experience give the PVP bonuses and the end game is focused around PVP so PVP gear will be needed by everyone making PVE gear somewhat useless because gear is supposed to have PVP only stats. This is going to make a huge focus on PVP mini games ala WOW to grind PVP xp I think.
- Do whatever is needed graphically/network wise to up the number on sieges, fix siege bugs, and make sieges have more life to them. Right now they are just kind of pointless.
- Fix feats/buffs etc. so that they work. This was a huge turn off to me when I put points into a feat to reduce a recast by 15 seconds twice and then the recast isn't affected at all.
- Balance the classes in PVP without breaking PVE. Right now certain squads like I mentioned above can become unbeatable, and being able to grind these squads up in 3 days hardcore guilds will become unbeatable. Like a squad of all healers whose DPS is also pretty strong, or a squad of healers and rangers. It's fine to have guild tactics but having a HUGE guild be able to level up 6 or 7 alts to 80 in a month makes for a huge imbalance. This isn't guild wars.
- Fix the raid timers. Right now the same guilds that are doing what i'm talking about were grinding raid instances that should be on a 1 week timer repeatedly every few hours getting their level 80 uber squads end game purple gear to make them even stronger.
- Fix mounted combat, and make it what it was made out to be. Right now being on a mount at the start of a fight is just going to get you killed.
- Add more meaningful/lore based quests throughout the game.
- Take another look at the economy and think of ways to bring it to life. Right now it is stagnant, unimportant, and very borked. A guild like the one I mentioned above can farm epic bosses and get a ton of gold. We got around 400-500 gold total one night between members. This is off when you can't even come close to getting 3 gold to get your horse mount at level 40. There is no reason to craft, or try other ways to make money when you can just go do this for a few hours and make 100 times more instead.
- Make guild cities more meaningful and find a way to breathe more life into them. Right now I travel there to get to other zones, and every time i've been there it is completely empty even though it is this huge nice looking city. It just feels off.
I know it's a lot of stuff but I really feel like if they got this stuff in/fixed etc. then the game could be a great contender. I also know that many of the items I listed have already been addressed and are being worked on which is great. Right now as people uncover these things for themselves they get to the point where one little thing or one of these things popping up will make them hit the cancel button. I have seen it many times. Developers can't give players an excuse to hit cancel after they might have had a bad night.
They have a solid base game and I hope that they can flesh it out and make it what the lead designer dreamt it would be. I really like the lead designer, and I think he has designed something great, but the devs need to catch up with his ideas.
I should add i'm a big fan of the Conan lore, and I think Funcom did a good job of bringing a lot of it to life. They just needed more time and money which devs always seem to be short on. I hope that the game thrives and these things are addressed. Anything I didn't mention I think is in great condition. I just fear the way it's going that it is going to become a guild rush to end game and all of the great Conan lore and game pre-80 will become an afterthought.
P.S. FATALITY BY TEXT WALL.
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I dont expect 100% perfect, I dont expect 90% I dont expect 80%, 70% is starting to push it, This game falls around 60% which is abismal. To the OP get out of tortage, stop kissing and come back and post when your level 80 and dont have jack to do, as your low level and blind still, around 60+ the blinders start to come off. God I love these low level fanboys.
Spoils of War - The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
Hehe. I am level 70 with 2 alts out of Tortage and I spend most of my time in game apprenticed at 79 doing end game activities. I think you missed the bolded, main part of my post.
Hehe. I am level 70 with 2 alts out of Tortage and I spend most of my time in game apprenticed at 79 doing end game activities. I think you missed the bolded, main part of my post.
I can see that you are quick to edit you post
Spoils of War - The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
Hehe. I am level 70 with 2 alts out of Tortage and I spend most of my time in game apprenticed at 79 doing end game activities. I think you missed the bolded, main part of my post.
I can see that you are quick to edit you post
I just made the points bolded, now orange, and the P.S. FATALITY BY TEXT WALL.
Haha it's all good i've done the same thing after a night out when I came home drunk and thought it would be a good idea to get on the internet.
Careful. This guy is a known troll and fanboy for Conan. In fact, it's speculated that he's a paid troll and working with viral marketing.
Wouldn't surprise me.. There was atleast 2 or 3 on the official forums.. Protus aoc, soda, a couple others..Either paid shills or blatant noobians
It's true, and so am I. We are transmitting this from an underground bunker from Area 51. BeWaRe.... doo dee doo doo - doo deee doo dooo... <Twilight Zone Music>
Wow how much dumber can you make yourself look?
Did you even read my post? I was extremely critical of AoC, and the amount of things that I listed that need to be fixed will take a very long time.
Read posts before you troll and then point the finger at someone else... This post is in no way a good thing for AoC. This is actually the worst kind of post because it isn't some troll saying something like, 'AoC sux and is full of fail.' where no one listens. It is an honest player stating all of things that need to be done to make this a game that can keep someone like me entertained, and the list is incredibly long.
I guess though to be on your level I should have just said, 'This pile of crap is unfinished and I won't give Funcom another cent until they publicly hang half of their staff and send me a refund.' Oh and I should have added, 'Vanguard is the best game ever now everyone come play it it's awesome!!!'.
Not one person that has responded has even read my post besides the guy who had all of his posts here deleted for who knows what reason. I made it bold and orange for a reason.
We've already had 9000+ people give us in depth reviews of this game. We don't need to hear your opinions too.
Spoils of War - The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
Who says? Just because you like or dislike their opinion does mean to say they can't have one on public forum. Saying that though, its a far better post than any you have ever made...
I rather read this constructive post then those kids made post that speak of AoC sucks. If people feel a game sucks it tells more abot those type of people then it tells anything about the game, as most topics who start with AoC sucks truly show the lack of experiance some people have with games in this genre.
You heard him folks, no more opinions allowed!!!1
Gurtelrose has spoken! No opinions allowed unless they pass Gurtelrose litmus test!
If I give it a 9.5 am I allowed to use the forums Gurtelrose??
I rather read this constructive post then those kids made post that speak of AoC sucks. If people feel a game sucks it tells more abot those type of people then it tells anything about the game, as most topics who start with AoC sucks truly show the lack of experiance some people have with games in this genre.
I agree, opinions opposite to yours are wrong...right??!? "Those type people" oughta shut up and pay subs and be happy for the privilege.
I rather read this constructive post then those kids made post that speak of AoC sucks. If people feel a game sucks it tells more abot those type of people then it tells anything about the game, as most topics who start with AoC sucks truly show the lack of experiance some people have with games in this genre.
I agree, opinions opposite to yours are wrong...right??!? No absolutely NOT, try reading and understanding before you hit the reply button.....please......
"Those type people" oughta shut up and pay subs and be happy for the privilege. Also not true. But hey if you feel that way go ahead......
I rather read this constructive post then those kids made post that speak of AoC sucks. If people feel a game sucks it tells more abot those type of people then it tells anything about the game, as most topics who start with AoC sucks truly show the lack of experiance some people have with games in this genre.
I agree, opinions opposite to yours are wrong...right??!? No absolutely NOT, try reading and understanding before you hit the reply button.....please......I promise I'll try to try.
"Those type people" oughta shut up and pay subs and be happy for the privilege. Also not true. But hey if you feel that way go ahead......The game is not what people expected and paid for, oh right, they are "inexperienced".
Meh, I have no qualm with you Rek, I do have a problem with devs (all devs, no just FC) releasing crap and we all just pay and expect nothing better than code that lets you log in.
Frankly, the MMO genre is pissing me off lately.
If you are right, then the game is allready dead. Timers change nothing. According to you the palyers in those guilds have 2.3.4 or 5 level 80 alts. If there is a timer they just switch to an alt squad and redo the raid. No ?
Wait till the shadow guilds aka alt-squads own all available battlekeeps on a server.
Unfortunately it seems the game is exactly designed for such gameplay.
I rather read this constructive post then those kids made post that speak of AoC sucks. If people feel a game sucks it tells more abot those type of people then it tells anything about the game, as most topics who start with AoC sucks truly show the lack of experiance some people have with games in this genre.
I agree, opinions opposite to yours are wrong...right??!? No absolutely NOT, try reading and understanding before you hit the reply button.....please......I promise I'll try to try.
"Those type people" oughta shut up and pay subs and be happy for the privilege. Also not true. But hey if you feel that way go ahead......The game is not what people expected and paid for, oh right, they are "inexperienced".
Meh, I have no qualm with you Rek, I do have a problem with devs (all devs, no just FC) releasing crap and we all just pay and expect nothing better than code that lets you log in.
Frankly, the MMO genre is pissing me off lately.
The thing is for ME personaly i expect the game i truly would make mesay AWESOME will hopefully become reality in about 3 to 5 years as seeing how tech is evolved to what it is today i do not expect any game between now and 2/3 years to be what most expect. Maybe it's because i don't believe in hype, i fully understand certain complaints and they are very legit, but like i said when someone pure makes a topic (not this one) but a topic that only say's "This game sucks"and doesn't leave anything constructive into that topic i feel such person is UNEXPERIANCE'd, i am not saying people expect what they paid for to be unexperiance'd. Well slightly maybe as many have proven to still believe in hype and if they HAD experiance they would have none not to fall for HYPE. Atleast thats what i feel experiance would have taught them.
I enjoy AoC, it's NOT the greatest game i ever played and probebly never will, i am still more of a sci-fi type of player, having fun with ME right now, or atleast tonight when i get home from work, and this weekend back into AoC, probebly sunday. I am taking my time cause i aint blind to certain issue's in the game and yes i would be unexperiance'd if i would pursuit things that i already know aint working right. Doesn't make it right that those things are not working.
Not a bad post OP.
I just don't think you should be so nice to funcom for releasing the game in the state they did. They released a product that should never have made it out of beta, and expect customers to pay for it. The game is amusing for a little while, but its nothing special by any means and the vast abundance of problems/bugs, makes it lose its luster rather quick. If consumers would just punish funcom for releasing a game in this state, maybe other companies would think twice before doing it. Although my account has already expired, from reading the forums the game doesn't sound like it's improving any. At least WAR and the WoW x-pac will be back soon, and there is always eve to kill time in between.
Well i'm the type of person who never gets mad at entire entities. I've been with companies that go through things and it is never the entire company that makes a decision like this. When it boils down to it the decisions like releasing AoC when it was released, or altering SWG the way they did fall on one or two shoulders.
I really like the lead designer and I have said that many times. He is a cool guy and if you listen to any of his radio sessions talking about the game I think you would like him as well. I have also programmed on projects where decisions were made that were out of my hands and made me ashamed to be working for the company.
AoC was released early but so are all MMO's. AoC I think was released too early and they were shady in their methods which is the biggest problem. If they would have just announced that some features wouldn't be in until further tested but would be coming in the early months, and been more honest their initial figures might not have been as good but this is an MMO and concurrent subs is their bread and butter.
Anyway if you look at AoC and Funcom they have a lot of people that put a lot of of work and a large portion of their life into developing this game. The artists did an amazing job. Many of the programmers did an amazing job. It is a pity that because of launching early and using some shady tactics to try to make it look as smooth as they could that the whole company and the entire project is getting a bad rap.
Developers of MMO's need to understand that concurrent subs is where they will succeed or fail. To keep concurrent subs you have to keep happy customers who will spread the news of your game through word of mouth or various outlets on the internet. Lying, even in the tiniest bit, being shady at all, or sugar coating makes players feel jaded and that destroys your chance for concurrent user growth just so that the game initially sells well. Developers need to deal with business side of things like publishers and investors on their own terms and leave the players out of it. They need to be honest and open with the player base about what is going on to keep players happy, keep concurrent users growing, and to stay in touch with the players.
Funcom is not a horrible company. They have extremely talented artists, designers, and developers, but a few bad decisions by management is taking all of that away from them. I hope they succeed, and I hope that they learn from their lessons as they develop the Cthulu inspired MMO that is under development.