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Aventurine was at a meeting of greek game developers on the 21 June 2008, publishing and release inf

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  • mike470mike470 General CorrespondentMember Posts: 2,396
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by mike470


    Just realized something..  If Tasos really has this "new" tralier of his, then why the hell hasn't he shown it to the community yet?  These freakin' fans have ben waiting since last month for a video he promised, yet he still refuses to show it to them.  Nice to know he cares about the community
    P.S.  It probably is just an old video anyway.  Can't really trust anything that comes out of Tasos' mouth..



     

    Now, don't forget. He's "in good standing with the community and big game sites". ROFLMAO!



     

    LOL.  He probably doesn't even read his own forums.

    If he was actually involved in the community, he would give updates more than "when he has the time".  After all, when he says Friday updates, you never really know which Friday they will be on....Making people wait a month because you can't give 10-30 minutes to fulfill your own promise is pathetic.

    These guys could learn a lot from the Fallen Earth devs...when they say weekly updates they mean it!

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  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812
    Originally posted by jiveturkey12


     

     
    Thats the video, look at it again, its the same trailer yes, but you can see its a live video, its someone filiming it, you can also see at the beginning it is on the giant projector, there is a windows media player bar that comes up within the first few seconds, its the same room as in the pictures of the developers conferance.
     
    Its a real place theres no denying that,
     
    -Jive

     

    ....and this is considered proof?

     

    Of what? It's the same stuff they've been showing you people for ages. No interface, nothing to indicate someone is actually -PLAYING- this, or if it's just a nice little compiled sequence of pre-rendered shots.

     

    All you see in this video are some good graphics (which, I might remind you, will not keep DF from having 150 FPS on Mediocre PC's during normal load and 30-60 with 400 players on the screen).

  • sayitwithmesayitwithme Member Posts: 28

    In the past he has worked for the MSN Gaming Zone, the Age of Empires, Microsoft, the Messiah of Interplay and Asheron ? s Call, also of Microsoft. After Asheron ? s Call, the Greek Head Developer contacted a group of Norwegian programmers (Razorwax) who were working on the Neocron, later (2001) known as Darkfall.

    lol what the fuck is this?  Tasos never worked for  MSN gaming center and Asheron's Call.  I played AC1 since like 1999 back than when it was still under MSN.

    Neocron?became Darkfall?  LOL  what is this shit?

    Razorwax never worked on Neocron.

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12


    Rumors say that there are already discussions with Ubisoft and Codemasters.

    Ubisoft is not in the MMORPG industry anymore. They are concentrating only on consoles now. I read it in a press release awhile back. Codemasters??  Why the hell would codemasters want to publish another MMORPG from some uknown start-up when they have Lord of the Rings Online..

    This is all 100% bullshit probably thrown together by Tasos himself. 

  • mortharxmortharx Member Posts: 293

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocron

    "Norwegian programmers (Razorwax) who were working on the Neocron, later (2001) known as Darkfall."

    So that game turned into Darkfall?

     

    ROFLMAO That article is full of bs or the translations are way off!

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  • jiveturkey12jiveturkey12 Member CommonPosts: 1,262
    Originally posted by sayitwithme

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12


    In the past he has worked for the MSN Gaming Zone, the Age of Empires, Microsoft, the Messiah of Interplay and Asheron ? s Call, also of Microsoft. After Asheron ? s Call, the Greek Head Developer contacted a group of Norwegian programmers (Razorwax) who were working on the Neocron, later (2001) known as Darkfall.

    lol what the fuck is this?  Tasos never worked for  MSN gaming center and Asheron's Call.  I played AC1 since like 1999 back than when it was still under MSN.

    Neocron?became Darkfall?  LOL  what is this shit?

    Razorwax never worked on Neocron.

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12


    Rumors say that there are already discussions with Ubisoft and Codemasters.

    Ubisoft is not in the MMORPG industry anymore. They are concentrating only on consoles now. I read it in a press release awhile back. Codemasters??  Why the hell would codemasters want to publish another MMORPG from some uknown start-up when they have Lord of the Rings Online..

    This is all 100% bullshit. 

     

    Woah why am i in quotes here? I never said any of this and you quoted me for it!

     

    Also To the person who said "They have been feeding "You people" these lies"

     

    Im not one of "Those people" I dont have any faith in Darkfall, I dont want to play darkfall, I simply understand that basic logic dictates, that if there is a video shown in a game showcase room, at a game convention, and there is articles onthe game convention, what good would it do them to make up the whole event.'

     

    Its not just darkfall at this place you realize its alots of other games all whic hare in development, seriously people look at the site, and stiop jumping to "OOO darkfall paid these people to make a fake post on their site". Did they also pay off eveyr single other game dev to act like they went their?

     

    This isnt JFK, this is 9/11, theres no conspiracy here people, Darkfall did get show to people, did they shwo the same videos they showed us? Yes!

     

    Are they probably fake? Probably!'

     

    Will the game ever come out? Probably not!

     

    But the event still took place people.

     

    -Jive

  • sayitwithmesayitwithme Member Posts: 28
    Originally posted by singsofdeath


    All you see in this video are some good graphics



     

    Ya good and outdated.  lol

  • SyrigxSyrigx Member Posts: 6

    In case you are concerned, the translation is ok and the event is real. But an event of gaming developers in Greece means a gathering of 10 ppl max.

    I'm from Greece btw

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410


    We now know why Tasos does not have much time to update the community, because apparently he’s not only just a an Associate producer handling Darkfall’s PR.

    He’s also the founder of Aventurine.

    Was Responsible for transferring Razorwax to Greece and integrating them into Aventurine.

    The head developer of Darkfall.

    He’s made all the fundamental design and technical decisions/changes for Darkfall

    He’s in control of recruiting developers from Greece.

    He’s in control of negotiating the publishing contracts.

    As well as amongst other things the organizer of the Greek and Libyan national partners for the ESWC.

    And a Vice president of Aventurine S.A. Military division.

    Tasos is obviously multi talented and extremely hard working, quite a guy.

    No wonder he expects his developers to work over 8 hours a day, he’s probably on at least 16 hour workdays himself.

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225

    Why is it SO difficult to believe that this was real? Are you people that foaming at the mouth that you think someone went to all this trouble just to make a fake website?

     

    They got a room full of fake people, to show a fake trailer on a projector, put it into Greek, put it up with a bunch of other videos of a bunch of other Greek games, just to scam someone of.... what? We're not paying anything. You people are sick. I have my doubts that the game will release this year, but there's no denying that was a real Greek gaming conference.

    As for the graphics comment, if the whole thing was a scam, why wouldn't they just render a game with amazing graphics instead of something realistic for a project of this scope .

  • jiveturkey12jiveturkey12 Member CommonPosts: 1,262
    Originally posted by SignusM


    Why is it SO difficult to believe that this was real? Are you people that foaming at the mouth that you think someone went to all this trouble just to make a fake website?
     
    They got a room full of fake people, to show a fake trailer on a projector, put it into Greek, put it up with a bunch of other videos of a bunch of other Greek games, just to scam someone of.... what? We're not paying anything. You people are sick. I have my doubts that the game will release this year, but there's no denying that was a real Greek gaming conference.
    As for the graphics comment, if the whole thing was a scam, why wouldn't they just render a game with amazing graphics instead of something realistic for a project of this scope .

     

    Exactly! Why pre-render a game that doesnt exsist and make it look like darkfall, why not makei t look better than Aoc!?

     

    -Jive

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410
    Originally posted by SignusM


    Why is it SO difficult to believe that this was real? Are you people that foaming at the mouth that you think someone went to all this trouble just to make a fake website?
    They got a room full of fake people, to show a fake trailer on a projector, put it into Greek, put it up with a bunch of other videos of a bunch of other Greek games, just to scam someone of.... what? We're not paying anything. You people are sick. I have my doubts that the game will release this year, but there's no denying that was a real Greek gaming conference.




    I agree, in my opinion the skeptics declaring that this article and the GamerWorld website are fake, and that this event never occurred are displaying a distinct lack of common sense and irrationality, and there also ignoring the obvious evidence.

    Ironically the very same sort of behavior that optimistic supporters of this project are frequently accused of.

    I personally think this article being legitimate is potentially far more damaging to the credibility of Aventurine and Tasos, then if it was not.

    If the people who are to busy screaming this is fake, actually read what Tasos said more carefully I think they would find a great deal of dubious material.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by SignusM


    Why is it SO difficult to believe that this was real? Are you people that foaming at the mouth that you think someone went to all this trouble just to make a fake website?
    They got a room full of fake people, to show a fake trailer on a projector, put it into Greek, put it up with a bunch of other videos of a bunch of other Greek games, just to scam someone of.... what? We're not paying anything. You people are sick. I have my doubts that the game will release this year, but there's no denying that was a real Greek gaming conference.




    I agree, in my opinion the skeptics declaring that this article and the GamerWorld website are fake, and that this event never occurred are displaying a distinct lack of common sense and irrationality, and there also ignoring the obvious evidence.

    Ironically the very same sort of behavior that optimistic supporters of this project are frequently accused of.

    I personally think this article being legitimate is potentially far more damaging to the credibility of Aventurine and Tasos, then if it was not.

    If the people who are to busy screaming this is fake, actually read what Tasos said more carefully I think they would find a great deal of dubious material.

     

    Snap! Take a picture.  Polarization almost defended DF in this post.  Closest you'll ever see him come.

    Just more DF mystery and intregue, still waiting till its released to pass judgment, stuff like this is strictly for the entertainment value.

     

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  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410
    Originally posted by Syrigx


    In case you are concerned, the translation is ok and the event is real. But an event of gaming developers in Greece means a gathering of 10 ppl max.
    I'm from Greece btw



     

    Do you have the time to possibly translate the article in full, or at least partially translate more accurately the most important parts about publishing and release?

  • sayitwithmesayitwithme Member Posts: 28
    Originally posted by Polarization


    Do you have the time to possibly translate the article in full, or at least partially translate more accurately the most important parts about publishing and release?



     

    Screw that. Do you have a cam corder and some time to knock on the door of the Aventurine office?

    I would love to see someone record themselves knocking on the door and seeing who comes out and what they are told....  which would be to  go away.

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410

    Another piece of evidence that this event did indeed take place at Microsoft Hellas Offices.

    http://igda.org/Forums/showthread.php?threadid=31369

     

  • jiveturkey12jiveturkey12 Member CommonPosts: 1,262
    Originally posted by Polarization


    Another piece of evidence that this event did indeed take place at Microsoft Hellas Offices.
    http://igda.org/Forums/showthread.php?threadid=31369
     

     

    good work sleuth

     

    -Jive

  • mike470mike470 General CorrespondentMember Posts: 2,396
    Originally posted by Polarization


    Another piece of evidence that this event did indeed take place at Microsoft Hellas Offices.
    http://igda.org/Forums/showthread.php?threadid=31369
     



     

    Nice find Polar, as usual. 

    Are you a detective or something? 

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  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Polarization


    Another piece of evidence that this event did indeed take place at Microsoft Hellas Offices.
    http://igda.org/Forums/showthread.php?threadid=31369
     



     

    Oh, I'm sure it took place.

    What I wanna know is how the fanbois are going to explain away the bullshit comments regarding his prior employment and everything else.

  • huxflux2004huxflux2004 Member Posts: 730

    This is getting more rediculous every day that passes. They turned down Ubisoft and Codemasters?? They want to self publish? And then they sign with Audio Visual? They have 3 million people in the community?

     

    All this is not even funny. And BTW, there are no greek game developers...

  • huxflux2004huxflux2004 Member Posts: 730
    Originally posted by mortharx


    What? 50k members = well over 3 million community?
     
    Did he really say that? This guy sounds like Brad McQuaid to me.
     
    Full of BS.. So DF is a pipe dream this proves it.. Damn not again.

     

    Nah, Brad was an opiate addict. This guy must use LSD....

  • SyrigxSyrigx Member Posts: 6
    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by Syrigx


    In case you are concerned, the translation is ok and the event is real. But an event of gaming developers in Greece means a gathering of 10 ppl max.
    I'm from Greece btw



     

    Do you have the time to possibly translate the article in full, or at least partially translate more accurately the most important parts about publishing and release?

    About the release date: end of 2008, but the actual date has to be finalized after the deal with the publisher is made. The actual date stays internal in the company.

    About publishing: self-published in Europe, major publisher is expected for US (rumors about Ubisoft or Codemasters)

    I don't think I added anything new. As I said the translation is as good as it can be by using Google.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by Syrigx

    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by Syrigx


    In case you are concerned, the translation is ok and the event is real. But an event of gaming developers in Greece means a gathering of 10 ppl max.
    I'm from Greece btw



     

    Do you have the time to possibly translate the article in full, or at least partially translate more accurately the most important parts about publishing and release?

    About the release date: end of 2008, but the actual date has to be finalized after the deal with the publisher is made. The actual date stays internal in the company.

    About publishing: self-published in Europe, major publisher is expected for US (rumors about Ubisoft or Codemasters)

    I don't think I added anything new. As I said the translation is as good as it can be by using Google.



     

    Really good news and its nice to see that Aventurine again keep their word. So far not one untruthful word from their lips.

    Add this with the exclusive interview coming and the business agreement id say were in for an exciting fall. Whats next? The new video? =)

  • SaaladSaalad Member UncommonPosts: 19
    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by Martie

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by Martie

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by Martie

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Martie


    Until this game is shown on a proper gaming site like Computerandvideogames.com or another site or gamig site, that is showed to proper media professionals, this is just bullshit.  This can just all be made up from what I can tell, even that sie looks like some free site, with made up bullshit.
     

    Hell, I'd even accept a Gamespot review.

     

    Never going to happen.    The ideas behind this game are nice, but it is just a joke. 

    Look at that link and tell me its not just made up.  It someons site they have put up, and just pasting crap.

    Tasoo u monkey go to a proper site, or a proper gaming magaxzine and show proper media journalists something.

    He has a new update coming next week.  Which will read

    "We are still no track with out milestones, we expect new devlopments soon, beta is still on schedule, I will now answe qustions that I have randomyl made up in my head" 

    he answers fantasy questions, just to keep people happy, but all he does is chat more and more shit that is the same stuff , reworded different.

     

     

    Look i dont believe darkfall is coming out as much as the next guy, but look at the video, its them showing off a video to all the people at that event.

     

    Its real man, the article is real, Darkflal may not be but all that is!

     

    -Jive

     

    That video is months and months old.  That is not a new video , jesus.  This is what im tlaking about some random made up fan site, just posting crap.

     

    Did you watch the video? Its not just the trailer, its someone at the gaming event filming the trailer, its not a made up event guys, its real, use common sense here.

     

    Like I said, do i think Darkfall is coming out? probably not, if it does it wont be for a long time. but is this event real!? YES! Obviously!

     

    -Jive

     

    Are u tlaking about the sites and gaming world video? or sanother because seriusly if you are tlaking about that video, then that is bloody old now.

     

     

    Thats the video, look at it again, its the same trailer yes, but you can see its a live video, its someone filiming it, you can also see at the beginning it is on the giant projector, there is a windows media player bar that comes up within the first few seconds, its the same room as in the pictures of the developers conferance.

     

    Its a real place theres no denying that,

     

    -Jive

     

     

    lmfao

    That video is old as sin.He said they're working on a "new video" which will probably be 2 minutes of stupid fly-bys and nothing else.

     

    You want people to stop ridiculing your game? get a cam, and record 17 minutes of gameplay, realease to the community and wala.That's what blizzard did, they don't have to hide shit, they know the game is still very early in development, they told people and still released videos in a single day that amount to a lot more than what DF has shown in the past 6 years.Diablo 3 is barely in Alpha and Darkfall is supposedly "feature complete" yet we've yet to see a comprehensive video of the game.



    Aventurine is a joke, Darkfall is a joke.

     

    Tasos = Brad Mcquaid

  • huxflux2004huxflux2004 Member Posts: 730
    Originally posted by Saalad

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by Martie

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by Martie

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by Martie

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Martie


    Until this game is shown on a proper gaming site like Computerandvideogames.com or another site or gamig site, that is showed to proper media professionals, this is just bullshit.  This can just all be made up from what I can tell, even that sie looks like some free site, with made up bullshit.
     

    Hell, I'd even accept a Gamespot review.

     

    Never going to happen.    The ideas behind this game are nice, but it is just a joke. 

    Look at that link and tell me its not just made up.  It someons site they have put up, and just pasting crap.

    Tasoo u monkey go to a proper site, or a proper gaming magaxzine and show proper media journalists something.

    He has a new update coming next week.  Which will read

    "We are still no track with out milestones, we expect new devlopments soon, beta is still on schedule, I will now answe qustions that I have randomyl made up in my head" 

    he answers fantasy questions, just to keep people happy, but all he does is chat more and more shit that is the same stuff , reworded different.

     

     

    Look i dont believe darkfall is coming out as much as the next guy, but look at the video, its them showing off a video to all the people at that event.

     

    Its real man, the article is real, Darkflal may not be but all that is!

     

    -Jive

     

    That video is months and months old.  That is not a new video , jesus.  This is what im tlaking about some random made up fan site, just posting crap.

     

    Did you watch the video? Its not just the trailer, its someone at the gaming event filming the trailer, its not a made up event guys, its real, use common sense here.

     

    Like I said, do i think Darkfall is coming out? probably not, if it does it wont be for a long time. but is this event real!? YES! Obviously!

     

    -Jive

     

    Are u tlaking about the sites and gaming world video? or sanother because seriusly if you are tlaking about that video, then that is bloody old now.

     

     

    Thats the video, look at it again, its the same trailer yes, but you can see its a live video, its someone filiming it, you can also see at the beginning it is on the giant projector, there is a windows media player bar that comes up within the first few seconds, its the same room as in the pictures of the developers conferance.

     

    Its a real place theres no denying that,

     

    -Jive

     

     

    lmfao

    That video is old as sin.He said they're working on a "new video" which will probably be 2 minutes of stupid fly-bys and nothing else.

     

    You want people to stop ridiculing your game? get a cam, and record 17 minutes of gameplay, realease to the community and wala.That's what blizzard did, they don't have to hide shit, they know the game is still very early in development, they told people and still released videos in a single day that amount to a lot more than what DF has shown in the past 6 years.Diablo 3 is barely in Alpha and Darkfall is supposedly "feature complete" yet we've yet to see a comprehensive video of the game.



    Aventurine is a joke, Darkfall is a joke.

     

    Tasos = Brad Mcquaid

     

    I totally agree. If they have a feature complete game, why are they hiding it? Are they dumb?

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Syrigx

    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by Syrigx


    In case you are concerned, the translation is ok and the event is real. But an event of gaming developers in Greece means a gathering of 10 ppl max.
    I'm from Greece btw



     

    Do you have the time to possibly translate the article in full, or at least partially translate more accurately the most important parts about publishing and release?

    About the release date: end of 2008, but the actual date has to be finalized after the deal with the publisher is made. The actual date stays internal in the company.

    About publishing: self-published in Europe, major publisher is expected for US (rumors about Ubisoft or Codemasters)

    I don't think I added anything new. As I said the translation is as good as it can be by using Google.



     

    Really good news and its nice to see that Aventurine again keep their word. So far not one untruthful word from their lips.

    Add this with the exclusive interview coming and the business agreement id say were in for an exciting fall. Whats next? The new video? =)

    Not one untruthful word? Have you even read this thread, or are you on auto pilot?

     

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