Hmm, okay, so Darkfall has a publisher. Now what? The fact is that 6 months from release, and they still haven't proven anything. All of these statements they have made is something they still cannot back up. They have a publisher with no experience in this field, they have not even proven 90% of their statements, and they haven't even hit beta yet. They plan to release in six months, yet they are clearly unprepared for this.... People are clearly forgetting all of this; while being distracted by publishers and interviews. Hell, even if this game gets the miracle of releasing, it sure as hell won't be ready if Adventurine keeps this up.
Seems to me like the wheels is running. Whether anyone is not qualified as publisher is to be seen, or? I think its good that Darkfall is soon to be released. Release 2008, damn cant wait.
They been working on QA for quite some time now. Professional testers you know. Thats the way to do it. And Mike, dont forget you can try Darkfall out before you buy it, so why dont you cheer the Devs on Aventurine on instead of this ridicolous negativism?
Darkfall has a European publisher! W00t! Of course, that publisher has not done any games, and is creating a "Game Division". We better hope these guys have a clue, and are fast learners.
Hmm, okay, so Darkfall has a publisher. Now what? The fact is that 6 months from release, and they still haven't proven anything. All of these statements they have made is something they still cannot back up. They have a publisher with no experience in this field, they have not even proven 90% of their statements, and they haven't even hit beta yet. They plan to release in six months, yet they are clearly unprepared for this.... People are clearly forgetting all of this; while being distracted by publishers and interviews. Hell, even if this game gets the miracle of releasing, it sure as hell won't be ready if Adventurine keeps this up.
Seems to me like the wheels is running. Whether anyone is not qualified as publisher is to be seen, or? I think its good that Darkfall is soon to be released. Release 2008, damn cant wait.
They been working on QA for quite some time now. Professional testers you know. Thats the way to do it. And Mike, dont forget you can try Darkfall out before you buy it, so why dont you cheer the Devs on Aventurine on instead of this ridicolous negativism?
Cheer them on about what? Being lied to countlessly, falsely led on? Or mabye thank them for their pathetic community interaction? Or their poor buissness ways?
Professional testers do NOT count, Aragon. When you plan to have 10,000 people on one server in a seamless world, you need to have more than 20 testers. You and I both know that.
And no, that is not "the way to do it." AoC was in beta with PUBLIC testers for awhile, and so is WAR, so show me where you see other major games doing it. Hell, AoC wasn't even complete with all that beta time, what makes DF any different?
They haven't proved anything Aragon. Right now, there is a possibility of release, I'll give you fanbois that. What I will not do is say "DF will be great, and perfect for release with no problems!" They still have a lot to prove and do in the six months before this game is released.
It is not rediculous negativity, but being skeptic seems like a pretty simple thing to be doing right about now.
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Hmm, okay, so Darkfall has a publisher. Now what? The fact is that 6 months from release, and they still haven't proven anything. All of these statements they have made is something they still cannot back up. They have a publisher with no experience in this field, they have not even proven 90% of their statements, and they haven't even hit beta yet. They plan to release in six months, yet they are clearly unprepared for this.... People are clearly forgetting all of this; while being distracted by publishers and interviews. Hell, even if this game gets the miracle of releasing, it sure as hell won't be ready if Adventurine keeps this up.
Seems to me like the wheels is running. Whether anyone is not qualified as publisher is to be seen, or? I think its good that Darkfall is soon to be released. Release 2008, damn cant wait.
They been working on QA for quite some time now. Professional testers you know. Thats the way to do it. And Mike, dont forget you can try Darkfall out before you buy it, so why dont you cheer the Devs on Aventurine on instead of this ridicolous negativism?
Cheer them on about what? Being lied to countlessly, falsely led on? Or mabye thank them for their pathetic community interaction? Or their poor buissness ways?
Professional testers do NOT count, Aragon. When you plan to have 10,000 people on one server in a seamless world, you need to have more than 20 testers. You and I both know that.
And no, that is not "the way to do it." AoC was in beta with PUBLIC testers for awhile, and so is WAR, so show me where you see other major games doing it. Hell, AoC wasn't even complete with all that beta time, what makes DF any different?
They haven't proved anything Aragon. Right now, there is a possibility of release, I'll give you fanbois that. What I will not do is say "DF will be great, and perfect for release with no problems!" They still have a lot to prove and do in the six months before this game is released.
It is not rediculous negativity, but being skeptic seems like a pretty simple thing to be doing right about now.
Well i agree. We dont know whether it will be a smooth release.
It matters because like I said Eve online signed with a unknown distributor and they dropped the ball big time for them.... luckily the game itself was good enough to pull through... all this is meaningless really. The only thing that matters is how good the game is and this bit of news doesn't in anyway say if the game is good. If anything , it says it's medicore at best if they couldn't sign with a more well known distributor for ALL of Europe. That's a big market. They may be trying to hold on too tight to their product which in the end could end up being a bad thing if they sacrafice quality distribution and support. Why didn't they just go straight to Direct2Download? Than you don't need any distributor or printed media.
A quote from Greek guy on Darkfall main forum - Seems Audiovisual is a respected company.
This is HUGE news and proves beyond any doubt that the game is 100% real.
Audiovisual is a very old and respected company and quite big in distribution of motion pictures and videos,after that deal its really safe to asume that indeed DARKFALL IS COMING
Hmm, okay, so Darkfall has a publisher. Now what? The fact is that 6 months from release, and they still haven't proven anything. All of these statements they have made is something they still cannot back up. They have a publisher with no experience in this field, they have not even proven 90% of their statements, and they haven't even hit beta yet. They plan to release in six months, yet they are clearly unprepared for this.... People are clearly forgetting all of this; while being distracted by publishers and interviews. Hell, even if this game gets the miracle of releasing, it sure as hell won't be ready if Adventurine keeps this up.
Seems to me like the wheels is running. Whether anyone is not qualified as publisher is to be seen, or? I think its good that Darkfall is soon to be released. Release 2008, damn cant wait.
They been working on QA for quite some time now. Professional testers you know. Thats the way to do it. And Mike, dont forget you can try Darkfall out before you buy it, so why dont you cheer the Devs on Aventurine on instead of this ridicolous negativism?
Cheer them on about what? Being lied to countlessly, falsely led on? Or mabye thank them for their pathetic community interaction? Or their poor buissness ways?
Professional testers do NOT count, Aragon. When you plan to have 10,000 people on one server in a seamless world, you need to have more than 20 testers. You and I both know that.
And no, that is not "the way to do it." AoC was in beta with PUBLIC testers for awhile, and so is WAR, so show me where you see other major games doing it. Hell, AoC wasn't even complete with all that beta time, what makes DF any different?
They haven't proved anything Aragon. Right now, there is a possibility of release, I'll give you fanbois that. What I will not do is say "DF will be great, and perfect for release with no problems!" They still have a lot to prove and do in the six months before this game is released.
It is not rediculous negativity, but being skeptic seems like a pretty simple thing to be doing right about now.
Well i agree. We dont know whether it will be a smooth release.
Well this is a first.
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Originally posted by jiveturkey12 I dont see why it matters to people if this company is dristributing th game or not, so what?!
Its someone, shit i can make better looking CD's on my computer than alot of people, you dont need a huge name like SoE behind your game for it to go well, in fact judging soe's track record i think this is a smart move,
-Jive
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
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I dont see why it matters to people if this company is dristributing th game or not, so what?!
Its someone, shit i can make better looking CD's on my computer than alot of people, you dont need a huge name like SoE behind your game for it to go well, in fact judging soe's track record i think this is a smart move,
-Jive
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
I dont see why it matters to people if this company is dristributing th game or not, so what?!
Its someone, shit i can make better looking CD's on my computer than alot of people, you dont need a huge name like SoE behind your game for it to go well, in fact judging soe's track record i think this is a smart move,
-Jive
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
I really think the issue is that they don't want to give up creative control of the game. A game this unique I can imagine several companies that would try to shift the focus of the game to get more money out of that. Aventurine has the balls to say no so they don't release another WoW clone. We'll all see soon enough.
Let us assume all this is true...are they even gonna have a BETA *red-flag* Before launch? I mean the Fall is just a few months away and no word on BETA...wtf!
I dont see why it matters to people if this company is dristributing th game or not, so what?!
Its someone, shit i can make better looking CD's on my computer than alot of people, you dont need a huge name like SoE behind your game for it to go well, in fact judging soe's track record i think this is a smart move,
-Jive
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
That's funny, you're claiming they're self publishing ( same as Tasos claims ), and yet they just hired a "publisher".
Far as the Ubisoft/Codemaster rumors, they're just that: rumors: spread by Tasos.
I sincerely hope we wont see a repeat of this, but just to put things in perspective.
Over 5 years ago Razorwax signed with a Greek publisher Aventurine , they said beta was starting “soon” and they where planning to launch in a few months time.
Over 5 years later Aventurine sign with a Greek publisher AVE, and are still saying beta is starting “soon” and are still planning to launch in a few months time.
At least this time AVE have some credentials and are an established company, even though they appear to have no experience with games or online games.
It matters because like I said Eve online signed with a unknown distributor and they dropped the ball big time for them.... luckily the game itself was good enough to pull through... all this is meaningless really. The only thing that matters is how good the game is and this bit of news doesn't in anyway say if the game is good. If anything , it says it's medicore at best if they couldn't sign with a more well known distributor for ALL of Europe. That's a big market. They may be trying to hold on too tight to their product which in the end could end up being a bad thing if they sacrafice quality distribution and support. Why didn't they just go straight to Direct2Download? Than you don't need any distributor or printed media.
A quote from Greek guy on Darkfall main forum - Seems Audiovisual is a respected company.
This is HUGE news and proves beyond any doubt that the game is 100% real.
Audiovisual is a very old and respected company and quite big in distribution of motion pictures and videos,after that deal its really safe to asume that indeed DARKFALL IS COMING
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Hate to break the news to you Aragon but SnailGames was / is about 100 x more known and is an experienced video game publisher in Asia.... Yet they still chose to publish one of the , if not the biggest piece of shit ever with Dark and Light.
So please explain to me how Aventurine hiring some unknown CD replication company means that Darkfall is good??
Unfortunately this is true, many games that have been less then successful after launch all had publishers, having a publisher is not necessarily an indication that a game is good or that it will be successful.
This Publishing deal is reassuring but the most fundamental questions about this game still remain unanswered, hopefully this deal is an indication that the developers will shortly be starting to demonstrate the game openly and be a lot more forthcoming with definite answers about its features and content.
Originally posted by Aragon100 Originally posted by HashBrick
Originally posted by jiveturkey12 I dont see why it matters to people if this company is dristributing th game or not, so what?!
Its someone, shit i can make better looking CD's on my computer than alot of people, you dont need a huge name like SoE behind your game for it to go well, in fact judging soe's track record i think this is a smart move,
-Jive
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs. Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in. I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
Nope, nope, nope it's not. Tasos would also give you a burger tell you it was a whopper and when you bit in it, it was filled with shit. He'd also lay a deuce in your urinal because he is such a douchebag. No money is rolling into Aventurine, the small as crew that actually believes this shit is going to shine a big frickin light in the sky and solve the riddle of life, oh and point out where the fountain of youth is while jacking you off smoothly, is a very small number.
It's ok though Aragon, Tasos still loves you and always will. He thinks of you when he plays his ipod filled with Katy Perry and hums to his favorite song "I kissed a girl".
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Unfortunately this is true, many games that have been less then successful after launch all had publishers, having a publisher is not necessarily an indication that a game is good or that it will be successful. This Publishing deal is reassuring but the most fundamental questions about this game still remain unanswered, hopefully this deal is an indication that the developers will shortly be starting to demonstrate the game openly and be a lot more forthcoming with definite answers about its features and content.
Well the thing is that this news is a pretty strong indication that the game actually exists (whatever its current form or stage of development).
That's one level up from the 100% vaporvare status the game's been in for the past 5 years... On the other hand, who knows? Maybe they signed the contract w Audiovisual in order to publish their true secret project: WoW gold farming guides...
Anyways we won't know till the game releases. Big budgets and high profile publishers aren't indicators of game's potential quality. EvE online and Vanguard are two opposite sides of the spectrum in that regard. We'll see...
Of course the scary thing is we are all assuming that Aventurine has entered into this deal specifically to publish and distribute Darkfall as there first priority.
But in all the news articles I’ve seen and found about this deal, I’ve not actually seen any that specifically mention Darkfall yet.
I know its very unlikely but until Aventurine makes an official announcement, it is possible that they have entered into this to publish other Greek games developed by Greek companies like the ones that they recently attended the conference at Microsoft Hellas offices with.
Darkfall might not be the first or only game that is published by this partnership, but I hope it will be the first and i hope its still there top priority.
Gonna be fun to see how the trolls turn this out to be bad news.
I am usually trolling here. This is something good for Aventurine, altough if you were greek, you would laugh about AV. I really doubt the capacity of AV to publish an MMORPG internationally. What they do up to now is import VHS and DVDs and distribute them to greek video clubs.
But, its a sign that Aventurine actually exists Which is definitly good news for all of us....
I think greece is just a bad place for a mmo to be developed in.
What do people do in greece anyways?
Fight lions?
-jive
because Greek lions are so common
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Perhaps he’s confusing the Greeks with the Romans? But that’s generally what happens when people learn their history and geography from Hollywood movies I suppose.
so no one knows what they do in greece? other than it's impossible to import lions for them to fight, for some reason?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Of course the scary thing is we are all assuming that Aventurine has entered into this deal specifically to publish and distribute Darkfall as there first priority. But in all the news articles I’ve seen and found about this deal, I’ve not actually seen any that specifically mention Darkfall yet. I know its very unlikely but until Aventurine makes an official announcement, it is possible that they have entered into this to publish other Greek games developed by Greek companies like the ones that they recently attended the conference at Microsoft Hellas offices with. Darkfall might not be the first or only game that is published by this partnership, but I hope it will be the first and i hope its still there top priority.
Actually, they're putting out a two disc set called "Tasos sings the blues". The set includes all your recent favorites, plus some ol' school classic hits. Just listen:
1.) " Beta's comin' soon, darlin' "
2.) " 3million users, then I woke up.... "
3.) " Bow to me, I'm the Interplay messiah. "
4.) " Believe me baby, I was a developer for Microsoft. "
It matters because like I said Eve online signed with a unknown distributor and they dropped the ball big time for them.... luckily the game itself was good enough to pull through... all this is meaningless really. The only thing that matters is how good the game is and this bit of news doesn't in anyway say if the game is good. If anything , it says it's medicore at best if they couldn't sign with a more well known distributor for ALL of Europe. That's a big market. They may be trying to hold on too tight to their product which in the end could end up being a bad thing if they sacrafice quality distribution and support. Why didn't they just go straight to Direct2Download? Than you don't need any distributor or printed media.
A quote from Greek guy on Darkfall main forum - Seems Audiovisual is a respected company.
This is HUGE news and proves beyond any doubt that the game is 100% real.
Audiovisual is a very old and respected company and quite big in distribution of motion pictures and videos,after that deal its really safe to asume that indeed DARKFALL IS COMING
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Hate to break the news to you Aragon but SnailGames was / is about 100 x more known and is an experienced video game publisher in Asia.... Yet they still chose to publish one of the , if not the biggest piece of shit ever with Dark and Light.
So please explain to me how Aventurine hiring some unknown CD replication company means that Darkfall is good??
It doesn't.
Just because AudioVisual isnt a american company dont mean they can still be a respected and serious company with awsome resorces and good quality. Or do you disqualify all companies that isnt from the good old USA?
I think i choose to believe my Greek friend above that i quoted on this and not the american vaporvare troll and nay-sayer.
I dont see why it matters to people if this company is dristributing th game or not, so what?!
Its someone, shit i can make better looking CD's on my computer than alot of people, you dont need a huge name like SoE behind your game for it to go well, in fact judging soe's track record i think this is a smart move,
-Jive
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
That's funny, you're claiming they're self publishing ( same as Tasos claims ), and yet they just hired a "publisher".
Far as the Ubisoft/Codemaster rumors, they're just that: rumors: spread by Tasos.
[QUOTE] I see the community has already discovered a couple of news items so I'll briefly comment on them:
As we've mentioned before we had been working on a self-publishing deal, and we've signed with AudioVisual Enterprises to work with us on the European distribution end of Darkfall's publishing. We will make an official announcement on this when it's time for it. Being a public company they are obligated to make a report of their dealings to the stock market and that's the announcement you read about. We're very happy to be working with them especially since we participate in the management of the project. [/QUOTE]
I dont see why it matters to people if this company is dristributing th game or not, so what?!
Its someone, shit i can make better looking CD's on my computer than alot of people, you dont need a huge name like SoE behind your game for it to go well, in fact judging soe's track record i think this is a smart move,
-Jive
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
Nope, nope, nope it's not. Tasos would also give you a burger tell you it was a whopper and when you bit in it, it was filled with shit. He'd also lay a deuce in your urinal because he is such a douchebag. No money is rolling into Aventurine, the small as crew that actually believes this shit is going to shine a big frickin light in the sky and solve the riddle of life, oh and point out where the fountain of youth is while jacking you off smoothly, is a very small number.
It's ok though Aragon, Tasos still loves you and always will. He thinks of you when he plays his ipod filled with Katy Perry and hums to his favorite song "I kissed a girl".
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Seems to me like the wheels is running. Whether anyone is not qualified as publisher is to be seen, or? I think its good that Darkfall is soon to be released. Release 2008, damn cant wait.
They been working on QA for quite some time now. Professional testers you know. Thats the way to do it. And Mike, dont forget you can try Darkfall out before you buy it, so why dont you cheer the Devs on Aventurine on instead of this ridicolous negativism?
Darkfall has a European publisher! W00t! Of course, that publisher has not done any games, and is creating a "Game Division". We better hope these guys have a clue, and are fast learners.
Seems to me like the wheels is running. Whether anyone is not qualified as publisher is to be seen, or? I think its good that Darkfall is soon to be released. Release 2008, damn cant wait.
They been working on QA for quite some time now. Professional testers you know. Thats the way to do it. And Mike, dont forget you can try Darkfall out before you buy it, so why dont you cheer the Devs on Aventurine on instead of this ridicolous negativism?
Cheer them on about what? Being lied to countlessly, falsely led on? Or mabye thank them for their pathetic community interaction? Or their poor buissness ways?
Professional testers do NOT count, Aragon. When you plan to have 10,000 people on one server in a seamless world, you need to have more than 20 testers. You and I both know that.
And no, that is not "the way to do it." AoC was in beta with PUBLIC testers for awhile, and so is WAR, so show me where you see other major games doing it. Hell, AoC wasn't even complete with all that beta time, what makes DF any different?
They haven't proved anything Aragon. Right now, there is a possibility of release, I'll give you fanbois that. What I will not do is say "DF will be great, and perfect for release with no problems!" They still have a lot to prove and do in the six months before this game is released.
It is not rediculous negativity, but being skeptic seems like a pretty simple thing to be doing right about now.
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Seems to me like the wheels is running. Whether anyone is not qualified as publisher is to be seen, or? I think its good that Darkfall is soon to be released. Release 2008, damn cant wait.
They been working on QA for quite some time now. Professional testers you know. Thats the way to do it. And Mike, dont forget you can try Darkfall out before you buy it, so why dont you cheer the Devs on Aventurine on instead of this ridicolous negativism?
Cheer them on about what? Being lied to countlessly, falsely led on? Or mabye thank them for their pathetic community interaction? Or their poor buissness ways?
Professional testers do NOT count, Aragon. When you plan to have 10,000 people on one server in a seamless world, you need to have more than 20 testers. You and I both know that.
And no, that is not "the way to do it." AoC was in beta with PUBLIC testers for awhile, and so is WAR, so show me where you see other major games doing it. Hell, AoC wasn't even complete with all that beta time, what makes DF any different?
They haven't proved anything Aragon. Right now, there is a possibility of release, I'll give you fanbois that. What I will not do is say "DF will be great, and perfect for release with no problems!" They still have a lot to prove and do in the six months before this game is released.
It is not rediculous negativity, but being skeptic seems like a pretty simple thing to be doing right about now.
Well i agree. We dont know whether it will be a smooth release.
A quote from Greek guy on Darkfall main forum - Seems Audiovisual is a respected company.
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Audiovisual is a very old and respected company and quite big in distribution of motion pictures and videos,after that deal its really safe to asume that indeed DARKFALL IS COMING
Fuck you,fuck you,fuck you.Who's next?
Seems to me like the wheels is running. Whether anyone is not qualified as publisher is to be seen, or? I think its good that Darkfall is soon to be released. Release 2008, damn cant wait.
They been working on QA for quite some time now. Professional testers you know. Thats the way to do it. And Mike, dont forget you can try Darkfall out before you buy it, so why dont you cheer the Devs on Aventurine on instead of this ridicolous negativism?
Cheer them on about what? Being lied to countlessly, falsely led on? Or mabye thank them for their pathetic community interaction? Or their poor buissness ways?
Professional testers do NOT count, Aragon. When you plan to have 10,000 people on one server in a seamless world, you need to have more than 20 testers. You and I both know that.
And no, that is not "the way to do it." AoC was in beta with PUBLIC testers for awhile, and so is WAR, so show me where you see other major games doing it. Hell, AoC wasn't even complete with all that beta time, what makes DF any different?
They haven't proved anything Aragon. Right now, there is a possibility of release, I'll give you fanbois that. What I will not do is say "DF will be great, and perfect for release with no problems!" They still have a lot to prove and do in the six months before this game is released.
It is not rediculous negativity, but being skeptic seems like a pretty simple thing to be doing right about now.
Well i agree. We dont know whether it will be a smooth release.
Well this is a first.
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Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
I really think the issue is that they don't want to give up creative control of the game. A game this unique I can imagine several companies that would try to shift the focus of the game to get more money out of that. Aventurine has the balls to say no so they don't release another WoW clone. We'll all see soon enough.
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Let us assume all this is true...are they even gonna have a BETA *red-flag* Before launch? I mean the Fall is just a few months away and no word on BETA...wtf!
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
That's funny, you're claiming they're self publishing ( same as Tasos claims ), and yet they just hired a "publisher".
Far as the Ubisoft/Codemaster rumors, they're just that: rumors: spread by Tasos.
I sincerely hope we wont see a repeat of this, but just to put things in perspective.
Over 5 years ago Razorwax signed with a Greek publisher Aventurine , they said beta was starting “soon” and they where planning to launch in a few months time.
Over 5 years later Aventurine sign with a Greek publisher AVE, and are still saying beta is starting “soon” and are still planning to launch in a few months time.
At least this time AVE have some credentials and are an established company, even though they appear to have no experience with games or online games.
A quote from Greek guy on Darkfall main forum - Seems Audiovisual is a respected company.
Audiovisual is a very old and respected company and quite big in distribution of motion pictures and videos,after that deal its really safe to asume that indeed DARKFALL IS COMING
Fuck you,fuck you,fuck you.Who's next?
Hate to break the news to you Aragon but SnailGames was / is about 100 x more known and is an experienced video game publisher in Asia.... Yet they still chose to publish one of the , if not the biggest piece of shit ever with Dark and Light.
So please explain to me how Aventurine hiring some unknown CD replication company means that Darkfall is good??
It doesn't.
Unfortunately this is true, many games that have been less then successful after launch all had publishers, having a publisher is not necessarily an indication that a game is good or that it will be successful.
This Publishing deal is reassuring but the most fundamental questions about this game still remain unanswered, hopefully this deal is an indication that the developers will shortly be starting to demonstrate the game openly and be a lot more forthcoming with definite answers about its features and content.
Recon a BETA is in order here...or am I just way off base?
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
Nope, nope, nope it's not. Tasos would also give you a burger tell you it was a whopper and when you bit in it, it was filled with shit. He'd also lay a deuce in your urinal because he is such a douchebag. No money is rolling into Aventurine, the small as crew that actually believes this shit is going to shine a big frickin light in the sky and solve the riddle of life, oh and point out where the fountain of youth is while jacking you off smoothly, is a very small number.
It's ok though Aragon, Tasos still loves you and always will. He thinks of you when he plays his ipod filled with Katy Perry and hums to his favorite song "I kissed a girl".
Well the thing is that this news is a pretty strong indication that the game actually exists (whatever its current form or stage of development).
That's one level up from the 100% vaporvare status the game's been in for the past 5 years... On the other hand, who knows? Maybe they signed the contract w Audiovisual in order to publish their true secret project: WoW gold farming guides...
Anyways we won't know till the game releases. Big budgets and high profile publishers aren't indicators of game's potential quality. EvE online and Vanguard are two opposite sides of the spectrum in that regard. We'll see...
Of course the scary thing is we are all assuming that Aventurine has entered into this deal specifically to publish and distribute Darkfall as there first priority.
But in all the news articles I’ve seen and found about this deal, I’ve not actually seen any that specifically mention Darkfall yet.
I know its very unlikely but until Aventurine makes an official announcement, it is possible that they have entered into this to publish other Greek games developed by Greek companies like the ones that they recently attended the conference at Microsoft Hellas offices with.
Darkfall might not be the first or only game that is published by this partnership, but I hope it will be the first and i hope its still there top priority.
I am usually trolling here. This is something good for Aventurine, altough if you were greek, you would laugh about AV. I really doubt the capacity of AV to publish an MMORPG internationally. What they do up to now is import VHS and DVDs and distribute them to greek video clubs.
But, its a sign that Aventurine actually exists
Which is definitly good news for all of us....
I think greece is just a bad place for a mmo to be developed in.
What do people do in greece anyways?
Fight lions?
-jive
because Greek lions are so common
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Perhaps he’s confusing the Greeks with the Romans?
But that’s generally what happens when people learn their history and geography from Hollywood movies I suppose.
so no one knows what they do in greece? other than it's impossible to import lions for them to fight, for some reason?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Actually, they're putting out a two disc set called "Tasos sings the blues". The set includes all your recent favorites, plus some ol' school classic hits. Just listen:
1.) " Beta's comin' soon, darlin' "
2.) " 3million users, then I woke up.... "
3.) " Bow to me, I'm the Interplay messiah. "
4.) " Believe me baby, I was a developer for Microsoft. "
And many, many more............
A quote from Greek guy on Darkfall main forum - Seems Audiovisual is a respected company.
Audiovisual is a very old and respected company and quite big in distribution of motion pictures and videos,after that deal its really safe to asume that indeed DARKFALL IS COMING
Fuck you,fuck you,fuck you.Who's next?
Hate to break the news to you Aragon but SnailGames was / is about 100 x more known and is an experienced video game publisher in Asia.... Yet they still chose to publish one of the , if not the biggest piece of shit ever with Dark and Light.
So please explain to me how Aventurine hiring some unknown CD replication company means that Darkfall is good??
It doesn't.
Just because AudioVisual isnt a american company dont mean they can still be a respected and serious company with awsome resorces and good quality. Or do you disqualify all companies that isnt from the good old USA?
I think i choose to believe my Greek friend above that i quoted on this and not the american vaporvare troll and nay-sayer.
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
That's funny, you're claiming they're self publishing ( same as Tasos claims ), and yet they just hired a "publisher".
Far as the Ubisoft/Codemaster rumors, they're just that: rumors: spread by Tasos.
They hired a distributor for the game.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=1437029#post1437029
[QUOTE] I see the community has already discovered a couple of news items so I'll briefly comment on them:
As we've mentioned before we had been working on a self-publishing deal, and we've signed with AudioVisual Enterprises to work with us on the European distribution end of Darkfall's publishing. We will make an official announcement on this when it's time for it. Being a public company they are obligated to make a report of their dealings to the stock market and that's the announcement you read about. We're very happy to be working with them especially since we participate in the management of the project. [/QUOTE]
Shit, I can also build myself an ice shanty and call myself a global fisherman, I import and export mackerel but in reality I sit in my damn ice shanty twiddling my thumbs.
Without a named publisher that has been in the gaming industry they are taking a huge risk. When the game releases in a poor ass state it will be even worst and well in the end then the publisher didn't even matter. If they have a good product and a bad publisher that's like throwing your money down a shit hole that already has too much shit in it.
They is selfpublishing in Europe, didnt you know that? And on a smooth well polished release with all features in like Tasos told us some months ago it will be jackpot for Aventurine. The money will come pouring in.
I heard its rumours about Ubisoft or Codemasters as publishers in North America, big enough for you?
Nope, nope, nope it's not. Tasos would also give you a burger tell you it was a whopper and when you bit in it, it was filled with shit. He'd also lay a deuce in your urinal because he is such a douchebag. No money is rolling into Aventurine, the small as crew that actually believes this shit is going to shine a big frickin light in the sky and solve the riddle of life, oh and point out where the fountain of youth is while jacking you off smoothly, is a very small number.
It's ok though Aragon, Tasos still loves you and always will. He thinks of you when he plays his ipod filled with Katy Perry and hums to his favorite song "I kissed a girl".
And your point is?