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  • veratutazzveratutazz Member UncommonPosts: 136

    Originally posted by huxflux2004

    Originally posted by Battlekruse

    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    AoC sold 1 million boxes, if you did not notice!
    I really don't understand how a stock that was worth 20KR 4 months ago and is now at +-40KR (even if it went through 55KR during the prelauch days trading madness) is considered "dropping from the sky"? And all that during a time period where all stock exchanges suffer big hits, due to oil prices and the sub-prime crisis. You guys should just stick to what you know and leave business and financial analysis to someone else.
    There is no press release about TSW being canceled. TSW should now be in full development with extra resources being assigned to it every day.
     
    Little secret: Funcom is not going bankrupt because you did not like the game. Actually facts show that Funcom is an exceptionally good company: to work in, invest on and observe. AoC is the second most popular MMO in the western world right now, even after the end of the first sub cycle. I guess this hurts your feelings, but it is the truth. I did not like the game either, but there are hundreds of thousands of people that are having a blast (and resubbing).



     

    Fact 1: Funcom shipped 1 million boxes, not sold.

    Fact 2: Age of Conan is not even on the top ten list of most played mmo´s. Here is the last list.

    1. World of Warcraft - 9.8 million subscribers.

    2. Habbo Hotel - 7.5 million active users.

    3. RuneScape - 5 million active users.

    4. Club Penguin - 4 million active users.

    5. Webkinz,  - 3.8 million active users

    6. Gaia Online - 2 million active users.

    7. Guild Wars - 2 million active users.

    8. Puzzle Pirates - 1.5 million active users.

    9. Lineage II - 1 million subscribers.

    10. Second Life - 500,000 active users.

    And Final 11. Age of Conan - Estimated: Below 400,000

     

    Oh my. I LOLed so hard at your list. Not only I said "western mmos", but you include free games and non-rpg games (that was my mistake though, i meant mmorpgs) and you also have made up so many numbers, you must have a headache now.

     

    And what's with the yellow numbers? Do I have to go mad about them, or what? My list would be:

     

    1 wow

    2 aoc

    3 eve

    4 lotro

    5 eq2

     

     

    BTW the official figure for Lineage 2 is 14 millions. Do you believe that?



     

     

     I know. I am LOVING this forum topic. Please keep it alive. It is the funniest crap to peek in on when i have a few minutes during the day.

     

     Children, let this be a lesson to you all. Opening your mouth in a public forum and making assertions in a field that is not your profession is a hazardous thing to do at best when trying to prove a point/convince others.

    Cutting and pasting crap you find on the web/wikipedia doesn't help either.

    ROTFLOL .. im not fanboi'ing AoC by any means, but .... using the stock market.. and showing numbers vs. SECOND LIFE?? LMGDMFAO.. Dayum dude. You are freaking funny.

     I'll check in later to see what retarded statements are made.

     

    Yes, funcom stock is probably down

    Yes, AoC has issues

    Yes, FunCom (like any other MMO company not named BLIZZARD) has economic issues

    Yes, then numbers (i have seen anyways) on sales of AoC vs. returns, ect is a bit worrysome

     

    No, it is not like Vanguard

    No it is not unplayable

    No, everyone is not quitting

    No, Funcom is not going to go insolvent

    And, jeeze, funny thing... AoC couldn't be played for, like, ONE day and FunCom ....... APOLOGIZED.. and gave us a free day.

     

     because, yaknow.. they suck. they're the enemy lol

  • As the start of this week, taking an discernible plunge (20% loss in 6 days). I wonder... if maybe investors read gaming forums daily and now got scared. Its highly volatile stock, I wouldn't advise anyone to buy it - unless you like wagering thousands on the roulette wheel.

    AoC launch is the worst i seen in any MMORPG so far. Worse then Vanguards. And youre blaiming the ones that cant play the game cause they have a black or blue screen cause of very poor compability to hardware? Is those the guys to blame? Or the ones feeling that AoC is a overhyped piece of unfinish game? Maybe its Funcom fault not paying up for any more subs? Theres so many who wont pay up more then 30 days for Age of Conan. Just see for yourself in a month or two.

    Funcom have noone to blame but themself for overhyping AoC. And rushing it out before it was finished. Its very good that people dont accept that kind of greedish behaviour and put there feets down. Its very good for the MMORPG genre as a whole.

    Today Funcom released a new report

     

    Link: http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/atmnt/080630_Funcom+Update.pdf?id=56675



    They have sold 700.000 units of Age of Conan and thats is a victory. Funcom have estimated a high sales rating for at least a million. But here is the most important and critical part "Subscriiption revenue estimation". Funcom claim that the first month there would be a relative small/low subscription revenues due that the first subcription payments started on June 19. Therefore they cant give any number on how many there will pay/play Age of Conan. If think its strange that Funcom cant even give a prediction on how many subs there curently are at the moment. Either its because its a adminstration problem or because they dont wanna tell us something.

     

  • devacoredevacore Member UncommonPosts: 340
    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    As the start of this week, taking an discernible plunge (20% loss in 6 days). I wonder... if maybe investors read gaming forums daily and now got scared. Its highly volatile stock, I wouldn't advise anyone to buy it - unless you like wagering thousands on the roulette wheel.
    AoC launch is the worst i seen in any MMORPG so far. Worse then Vanguards. And youre blaiming the ones that cant play the game cause they have a black or blue screen cause of very poor compability to hardware? Is those the guys to blame? Or the ones feeling that AoC is a overhyped piece of unfinish game? Maybe its Funcom fault not paying up for any more subs? Theres so many who wont pay up more then 30 days for Age of Conan. Just see for yourself in a month or two.
    Funcom have noone to blame but themself for overhyping AoC. And rushing it out before it was finished. Its very good that people dont accept that kind of greedish behaviour and put there feets down. Its very good for the MMORPG genre as a whole.
    Today Funcom released a new report
     
    Link: http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/atmnt/080630_Funcom+Update.pdf?id=56675


    They have sold 700.000 units of Age of Conan and thats is a victory. Funcom have estimated a high sales rating for at least a million. But here is the most important and critical part "Subscriiption revenue estimation". Funcom claim that the first month there would be a relative small/low subscription revenues due that the first subcription payments started on June 19. Therefore they cant give any number on how many there will pay/play Age of Conan. If think its strange that Funcom cant even give a prediction on how many subs there curently are at the moment. Either its because its a adminstration problem or because they dont wanna tell us something.

     



     

    That is great, over 700k sold.  Besides your clearly baby like whine there, you right that currently it does have quite a few bugs at higher levels and on crappy machines.   To fix the problem related to people's crappy boxes, it's great they are releasing it for the xbox.  Plus at that release the bugs and content at higher level will be complete.  I would not consider myself a beta tester since I'm still under the max level and enjoying the content that seems to be well put together.  For anyone who does have the time to 'grind and powerlevel' yourself to max, i'd say chill out and find another game.

  • kaishi00kaishi00 Member Posts: 299
    Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

    Originally posted by grunt187


    Zero there is a big difference between 9800gtx and 9800gx2 one is singe other is dual he said 9800gx2 which is a dual card then he has 2 of them which is like having 4 single cards

     

    Jesus you're right. Well that just opens up a whole nother can of worms now doesn't it? What kinda garbage is on his computer that even with that setup he can't do what my single 8800GTX can do.

     

    Still...9800GTX or GX2...it was still an utter waste of money. If he wanted a gaming hard-on that badly he should have held out for the 4870x2, more performance for half the price.

     

    Except when people say max settings, max means everything on high, and everything on full blast, shadows, AA, shaders etc etc. I only run with shaders 3, and 4x AA and gets 70-120 or so FPS. Last night I went in the villas solo and instantly dropped below 20 FPS. Go figure.

     

    I could've held out for 2 4870, but I would have had to wait. You can always wait for faster, better, newer technology, but all you're doing is waiting.

  • VagnerVagner Member UncommonPosts: 51

    I think people just love to be unfair and mean lol

  • JokolivedJokolived Member Posts: 23
    Originally posted by Vagner


    I think people just love to be unfair and mean lol



     

    Well most of them have the right to be after being tricked and decieved by FC.

  • huxflux2004huxflux2004 Member Posts: 730

    Stock is at +23% today.....

  • GurtelroseGurtelrose Member Posts: 191

    AvK -2,05%

     

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  • khartman2005khartman2005 Member Posts: 477

    As someone already mentioned, today Funcoms stocked jumped UP 23%.  They are hardly losing anything. The other day when the stock dropped everything across the board dropped. It was a bad day for the stock market in general.

     

     

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  • There is a significant plunge after the 23rd. What's on the 23rd? that's right, European release day.

    If you watch at the graph, you'll see it follows the release hype perfect; increase upon EA/US release on the 21st, the hype continues to build up, stays somewhat stable until EU release. Then the drop begins.

    Of course it could very well be purely coincidental. Or maybe not. Time will tell...

    I guess now that the first free month is over, we'll have more accurate results...

  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682

    I'm very much expecting a "pump and dump" scenario with the stock.

    Funcom has to be very careful with the spin. If any of it is found to be false, as a publicly traded company they could open themselves up to serious legal problems and investor law suits.

    The 700,000 subscriber hype release does not in any way give an accurate representation of the actual subscriber trends, which are very clearly heading downwards.

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  • huxflux2004huxflux2004 Member Posts: 730
    Originally posted by fiontar


    I'm very much expecting a "pump and dump" scenario with the stock.
    Funcom has to be very careful with the spin. If any of it is found to be false, as a publicly traded company they could open themselves up to serious legal problems and investor law suits.
    The 700,000 subscriber hype release does not in any way give an accurate representation of the actual subscriber trends, which are very clearly heading downwards.

     

    Says who?

  • jamigrejamigre Member UncommonPosts: 280

    haha straight off the mmorpg.com traders desk. funny really. just out of curiosity i looked at their website, and honesltly, there's little financial data, as in an annual report. Hence it's difficult to gage the actual price of the company - and especially forcast their future cash flows. Notwithstanding looking at the yahoo page, you can see that trading of the company has been fairly volatile recently i.e. a 7 point range in a day, and notwitstanding a range of approxaimately 28 in the past year - present volume is more or less 2x that of the historical average, in all the company is a wildcard, and it's p/e ratio is ridiculously high. In all people are betting on the future earnings of the company, and no one can really say today what they will be, but sure nuff, in 3-6 monts we'll see a much more fair share price that will reflect expectations of investors.

    Wow was a disaster at launch. Plenty of low lvl content but nothing at the top. Horrid wait times to get in the game, and credits for players because of server downtime. We see similarities here with FC, and their new release, and only time will tell if FC will be successful in the coming months, years or not. But i do have to say, I would be intrigued to see that their balance sheet looks like, and exactly how heavily the company is leveraged.

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  • sorciellesorcielle Member Posts: 83
    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    There is a significant plunge after the 23rd. What's on the 23rd? that's right, European release day.
    If you watch at the graph, you'll see it follows the release hype perfect; increase upon EA/US release on the 21st, the hype continues to build up, stays somewhat stable until EU release. Then the drop begins.
    Of course it could very well be purely coincidental. Or maybe not. Time will tell...

    I guess now that the first free month is over, we'll have more accurate results...



    Seriously Battlekruse.. your naivete is overwhelming!!

    So by your logic the 23% increase in stock value is because they released another miracle patch today??

    Will you guys just stop with the ignorant AOC hate posts please??????????

    (edit for moderator friendliness)

     

  • chryseschryses Member UncommonPosts: 1,453

    I am so hating myself for replying to this ignorant thread but I really need to state the obvious here.  That stock movement is following the exact trend of the overall stock market on most exchanges.  Before this sort of shite is posted you should really have some sort of background on stocks.  Looking at the trend these stocks would have been a great purchase a few months back but could potentially be a good stock pick now.  Don't like the game? Fine! But FC were taken by surprise with the amount of sales this game has generated and are madly recruiting support staff to help with the number of players on the servers.  Even today they announced that 'Fury' is completely full and you can't make any characters there until an upgrade has happened. 

    They shipped out 1 million copies to shops and the prediction is that they will sell that 1 million copies in 5-6 weeks.  So from the outset they have or almost paid off 5 years of production cost and now its all cream.  Trust me FC would be delighted with their stock price as it hasn't nosed dived by 1/3 like most companies.

     

  • Funcom shares still don't look to good. Today, its seems that Funcom was almost forced to sell Plutolife AS, so the can gain some quick capital. From what I understand, they simply ran out of money with Age of Conan. Funcom is not a huge developer and simply didn't have funds to continue on going through beta. With the sales of Plutolife AS, they will gain $3.7 million in cold cash payments + over the next 12 months, a $600,000 (Each month).

    Link: http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/index.jsp?messageId=214417&lang=

  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005
    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    Funcom shares still don't look to good. Today, its seems that Funcom was almost forced to sell Plutolife AS, so the can gain some quick capital. From what I understand, they simply ran out of money with Age of Conan. Funcom is not a huge developer and simply didn't have funds to continue on going through beta. With the sales of Plutolife AS, they will gain $3.7 million in cold cash payments + over the next 12 months, a $600,000 (Each month).
    Link: http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/index.jsp?messageId=214417&lang=

     

    You Noob learn some stock market before coming here with this crap, this is the normal market stuff, FC is making millions they just didnt want Plutolife, that company was just dragging them down. They have AoC now.

     

     

     

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  • lareslocilaresloci Member UncommonPosts: 373

    Yeah they are scrambling alright. They needed to monetize this game...and now they want to Xbox this beast.

    It will be interesting to see if they survive this.

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  • paladinumpaladinum Member Posts: 120

    I dont feel sorry for them..bunch of liers , scammers...

    And i was i fanboi 2 months b4 the game released...i tryed the general beta..and was really disaponted...

    But because they said it was beta...the real finished game they dont show..its surprise...i bought the game..2 days later cancelled acc...

    Normaly scammers go to prison..but these guys are still out there...and scammed some thousand ppl

  • rasgrixrasgrix Member Posts: 169
    Originally posted by paladinum


    I dont feel sorry for them..bunch of liers , scammers...
    And i was i fanboi 2 months b4 the game released...i tryed the general beta..and was really disaponted...
    But because they said it was beta...the real finished game they dont show..its surprise...i bought the game..2 days later cancelled acc...
    Normaly scammers go to prison..but these guys are still out there...and scammed some thousand ppl



     

    but remember there will always be people that are satisfied with the game and those diehard fanbois

  • lareslocilaresloci Member UncommonPosts: 373
    Originally posted by sorcielle

    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    There is a significant plunge after the 23rd. What's on the 23rd? that's right, European release day.
    If you watch at the graph, you'll see it follows the release hype perfect; increase upon EA/US release on the 21st, the hype continues to build up, stays somewhat stable until EU release. Then the drop begins.
    Of course it could very well be purely coincidental. Or maybe not. Time will tell...

    I guess now that the first free month is over, we'll have more accurate results...



    Seriously Battlekruse.. your naivete is overwhelming!!

    So by your logic the 23% increase in stock value is because they released another miracle patch today??

    Will you guys just stop with the ignorant AOC hate posts please??????????

    (edit for moderator friendliness)

     

     

    That's funny...stock goes up because of miracle patch.

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  • jakojakojakojako Member Posts: 332



     
    Oh my. I LOLed so hard at your list. Not only I said "western mmos", but you include free games and non-rpg games (that was my mistake though, i meant mmorpgs) and you also have made up so many numbers, you must have a headache now.
     
    And what's with the yellow numbers? Do I have to go mad about them, or what? My list would be:
     
    1 wow
    2 aoc
    3 eve
    4 lotro
    5 eq2
     
     
    BTW the official figure for Lineage 2 is 14 millions. Do you believe that?

     

    Ok buddy, you can't just pick what you THINK is the top-played game when you have absolutely no backup. All you're doing is impersonating that which you seemed so much against when saying "and you also have made up so many numbers, you must have a headache now.".

     

  • GurtelroseGurtelrose Member Posts: 191
    Originally posted by laresloci

    Originally posted by sorcielle

    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    There is a significant plunge after the 23rd. What's on the 23rd? that's right, European release day.
    If you watch at the graph, you'll see it follows the release hype perfect; increase upon EA/US release on the 21st, the hype continues to build up, stays somewhat stable until EU release. Then the drop begins.
    Of course it could very well be purely coincidental. Or maybe not. Time will tell...

    I guess now that the first free month is over, we'll have more accurate results...



    Seriously Battlekruse.. your naivete is overwhelming!!

    So by your logic the 23% increase in stock value is because they released another miracle patch today??

    Will you guys just stop with the ignorant AOC hate posts please??????????

    (edit for moderator friendliness)

     

     

    That's funny...stock goes up because of miracle patch.



     

    Short time after the so called miracle patch there was a -17,95% decrease in stock value. Guess the patch help a little but not enough.

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  • lareslocilaresloci Member UncommonPosts: 373
    Originally posted by Gurtelrose

    Originally posted by laresloci

    Originally posted by sorcielle

    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    There is a significant plunge after the 23rd. What's on the 23rd? that's right, European release day.
    If you watch at the graph, you'll see it follows the release hype perfect; increase upon EA/US release on the 21st, the hype continues to build up, stays somewhat stable until EU release. Then the drop begins.
    Of course it could very well be purely coincidental. Or maybe not. Time will tell...

    I guess now that the first free month is over, we'll have more accurate results...



    Seriously Battlekruse.. your naivete is overwhelming!!

    So by your logic the 23% increase in stock value is because they released another miracle patch today??

    Will you guys just stop with the ignorant AOC hate posts please??????????

    (edit for moderator friendliness)

     

     

    That's funny...stock goes up because of miracle patch.



     

    Short time after the so called miracle patch there was a -17,95% decrease in stock value. Guess the patch help a little but not enough.

     

    There we go, that's called "Profit (taking) after Patch". Or PAP.

    Well we have some new stock market terms.

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