I think i have a great idea! Age restricted servers!

colep53 · July 2008

Ok so I want to start off by saying I have played with people that are 30 years and older who are very immature and I have palyed with 12 year olds who are awesome and act very mature. That being said i do beleive that the majority of immature gamers are younger people. Somthing you always hear is such and such community sucks becasue its all a bunch of immature 12 year olds.

So i was thinking they should make age restricted servers. have the cut off be like 18 or 21 and up. You would need to provided verification that you were the limit age or above to play on the server. I think this would be great. Whos with me?

Edit: Methods you could use to pull this off. Maybe they could ask for multiple id forms. Like drivers license, social secruity, and may have taht match the credit card you would be paying with. I know that there will be some people to cheat the system no matter how you do it but for the most part i think you would end up with a server population with mainly the correct age.

puma713 · July 2008

Not to kick you in the nuts right when the gate opens, but how would you implement something like this?

Deivos · July 2008

Interesting, but even with verification still pretty much impossible.

Lydon · July 2008

I personally think it is a bad idea, simply because it'll act as a segregation method. Can you imagine being an extremely mature 15 year old, yet being forced to play with immature little guys and girls simply because of your age? Unless there is a valid reason, such as the game being rated mature, one has to admit that it is slightly discriminatory.

Secondly, I don't think it's possible to properly enforce this. What's to stop one of these 12 year olds from getting one of their parents to go through the verification process, then just play as if they are them? Trust me...as stupid as it sounds many parents out there would do this because as long as it's keeping the child occupied, they don't care. I know of someone who bought her 8 year old son GTA, despite its rating. I can say for a fact that she wouldn't hesitate going through this verification process either.

Sadly, it's just something one has to put up with and the reason we have ignore lists. Plus, one can't escape the immature people who are over the age limit either.

mgarcia85 · July 2008

I'd honestly rather play with a bunch of 12 year olds than the older people, I just want to chill and relax and play the game and the older crowd seems to be more serious and all hardcore for cerial type stuff. Just seems the older people tend to give off that 'elitism' vibe that I hate so much in mmos.

I'd rather be in lollipop land then seriousville, most of the little 12 year old kids are pretty cool I've met.

Just my 2cents.

Evasia · July 2008

Originally posted by colep53

Ok so I want to start off by saying I have played with people that are 30 years and older who are very immature and I have palyed with 12 year olds who are awesome and act very mature. That being said i do beleive that the majority of immature gamers are younger people. Somthing you always hear is such and such community sucks becasue its all a bunch of immature 12 year olds.
So i was thinking they should make age restricted servers. have the cut off be like 18 or 21 and up. You would need to provided verification that you were the limit age or above to play on the server. I think this would be great. Whos with me?
Edit: Methods you could use to pull this off. Maybe they could ask for multiple id forms. Like drivers license, social secruity, and may have taht match the credit card you would be paying with. I know that there will be some people to cheat the system no matter how you do it but for the most part i think you would end up with a server population with mainly the correct age.

With statement you make and ask for age restriction you contradict yourself.

Secondly i think problem lays with you, your tolerance or to be mature enough to ignore immature behavior you have not yet masterd, so wait 10years and then maybe you have learn to live with it:).

Thirdly asking for age restriction is very bad way of shutting out people who are very mature and nice becouse some are idiots, its not very smart and wise to make such restriction so you can have a playing time you like by cutoff those who are maybe even more mature and social then you are.

Bad idea very bad.

colep53 · July 2008

Very good points you all make. As for not being able to ignore immature people I have kids and a wife. If you have either you will know the level that my ignoring can go. By the way I only play when the kids are sleeping or gone. The wife aww she is stuck with me game and all.

Adamantine · July 2008

Ok, lets see.

1. Wont work in practice.

2. Wont help with anything.

3. Will give your company bad image for being prejudiced against youngsters, meaning less youngsters will play your game.

-> You win ! Definititely a great idea, will definitely be tried at least some couple douzen times by various big companies, if it doesnt even will turn into a common standard idiocy like, say, the braindead idea of soulbound items.

Kevyne-Shandris · July 2008

Age isn't the real factor. Played BF2142 with 10 year-olds (you knew they were 10 year-old due to their voice on chat), and they weren't a problem.

The issue is plain immaturity. 20 year-olds wanting to horse around or rain on other gamers parade. There's a time to be serious and a time to have fun, but some don't know that line. When they don't they interfere with playing the game -- like the punk who thought it was fun leaving his mic key open so his whole squad had to listen to the worst gangsta rap known (he was a v-e-r-y sick puppy and cleared the squad quick).

So maybe the age limit isn't what's needed but a way to weed out jerks, no matter what age.

Adamantine · July 2008

Originally posted by UNATCOII

So maybe the age limit isn't what's needed but a way to weed out jerks, no matter what age.

Right, but how to do that ? A question at game start "Are you a jerk ? Yes [ ] No [ ]" probably wont do it.

megaflux19 · July 2008

i suggested this to blizztard like 2 years ago...nothing.

it is actually the #1 reason i dont play wow (and also consider it a crap game). it is pretty easy to validate adults, provided those adults dont mind sacrificing minor freedoms. driver license numbers, ss#'s, and real credit card numbers being simple validations, ofcourse theres the manpower to doublecheck all that also.

if they did make seperate ADULT servers they could for 1 thing throw ALL ettiquite out the window and we could get back to talking smack like real men instead of worrying that little tommy is going to report us. could also provide content adults want to adults. lastly it would let people know they are not dealing with children (retards maybe, but not little kid-tards) which goes a long way towards satisfaction.

lotro has an almost exclusively adult population and they are (gottta say it again) THE most helpless, lazy, ignorant set of players i have ever dealt with. so i dont know that this would help the chat channels, since apparently adults ask for help on everything from walking across town to which wep their character should use (never mind the constant stream of "where is quest npc X?"). im not saying all lotro players are helpless, ignorant, and lazy...just the ones who use the chat channels (since it REALLY isnt that hard to tab and use google to get the same info some player will manually have to type in and most likely elaborate on).

i think when you log into an A server it should have in huge letters and maybe a pornographic splash screen "let there be bloodshed, profanity, and some mother F#%^ing nudity" or maybe get the mortal kombat guy to say it, either way if little timmy's mommy happens to be in the room i would want her fully aware of what tim-tard is doing....and maybe have it show up on credcard statements as "adult entertainment" instead of "standard game sub".

Lydon · July 2008

Excuse me if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick, but I thought these were online games, not places where desperate people come to have a "good time?" Barring children because some adults can't control themselves is kinda...sad.

Elikal · July 2008

It sounds like a good idea, but I'd make the limit 30, not 18. Generally I didnt see people *below* 18 the big problem, in my observation it is mostly guys between 18 und 28 who cause the most ruckus. Can we block them out please?

Kasimir · July 2008

Well, I have always liked the idea to keep the kids in one end and normal, semiintelligent people in one end, because seriously, its tiring listening to kiddies that just found out that they can curse freely without their mother bopping them over the head all the time. Problem I see is, in a community, people stop behaving like intelligent people with a personality of their own, and instead start to behave like the majority around them. They turn from an individual culture into a group culture, and no matter if they are doctors or 11 year old brats, they will after a time start to talk in a similar fashion. Only the individualists are able to keep the reigns on their behaviour and still act normal, while a far majority of any age start sounding like the majority of players.. normally 11-17 year old brats.

Today I have another idea... Not restricted by age, but by behaviour.The punishment ladder is too harsh. Either you get to play and talk and act freely... or you get banned from the game completly for some time. That makes punishments rare, a lot more rare than they have to be and people get away with pretty much anything for a long time before being stopped.

Instead I wouold like to see an extra step in the punishment ladder. The nochat zone. You act like a tard and someone report that, you loose your right to speak in any chat. The game just turned singleplayer for you for some time day, week, month or year depending on how often you feel like being a tard.. This is not exactly harsh, but it WILL slow the spam down in chat, chat WILL turn a lot more civil and punishment can be given out almost immediatly. You are not loosing a costumer, you are just quieting him down a bit, so you can pretty much just get the report, look at the chat file, say "Yup, he is an idiot" and immediatly close his chat down. When all players know how fast and easy they loose the right to speak in chat if they misbehave... they will think twice. They think they can loose chat then come back each day... fine, one week, then one month, then one year then permanently. Now.. go spam if you want. You know what happens.

I dunno about you.. but I would love that system. Then I would probably not need either an ignore box or age restricted servers.

Just make sure its by account as well, at least give the professional spammers a little more problems

altairzq · July 2008

Originally posted by Elikal

It sounds like a good idea, but I'd make the limit 30, not 18. Generally I didnt see people *below* 18 the big problem, in my observation it is mostly guys between 18 und 28 who cause the most ruckus. Can we block them out please?

I second that. As I second any post by Elikal

To the OP: You should see the troubles SL is having about implementing Age Verification. They haven't succeeded so far.

edit typo.

Kyleran · July 2008

I don't get it. Maybe having raised three children (eldest in 24 now) or having my son join me in MMO's since he was 8 (he's 15 now) makes my perspective different than most.

I don't fear the children in games. They are far less annoying than many of the 18-30 crowd that your run into (I call them the WWF Generation) who have these huge e-peens about how good they are with regards to gaming.

I have a better idea, how about premium servers where I can pay double the normal monthly fee and get god-like super powers over those less able to pay.

Naw, thats a dumb idea too. Let's just keep things the way they are and let people learn to cope with others at all age levels, its really not that hard.

Nightsorrow · July 2008

What? Did I hear "30 years and older who are very immature" and "12 year olds who are awesome and act very mature" and then the conclusion is "majority of immature gamers are younger people"?

Anyway I can't believe that there are people who voted yes on this unrealistic idea (and probably wrong as well).

Porfat · July 2008

Let me start out that age not equal maturity (emotional). But there is a correlation.

Teens and younger persons haven't had the life experiences to be really mature. There are exceptions to the rule mature teens and immature adults.

I like children but not as peers. I don't socialize in the malls I socialize in the local bars and at friends houses. To see movies I go to a movie theatre where you have to be 18 years or older to get in. They food and alcohol. Its great. (legit theatre not the other kind). That said I don't have problem with mature players of any age.

As far as age restricted servers go, here is my idea. Charge more to play on the server maybe $25. Also for the extra $ have the server moderated. If you act like an ass you get kicked out. The cost per month dollar wise is an insignificant problem for me (time wise little different story). I expect it is the same for alot of adult players. Also harder for children who depend on their parents to play the games to justify the extra $ to play.

Just my two cents. Don't take it that I hate teens I just rather play with my peers.

gillvane1 · July 2008

I think it would work just fine.

Enforcement is not an issue. You'd just do whatever it is porn sites do for age restriction and verification. Would some kids get past the age verificaiton, like some kids might get past the age verification for porn sites? Yea, sure, but I dont' think it would be a major issue.

iriegecko · July 2008

Worst idea... ever. You would give your SS number to a business?

Now for the real reason it will not work. I've played MMOs with people my own age (30+ y.o.) and they are no better, if not worse, than some 12 y.o. folks. Maturity is not something that can be determined by age.

If it's use of language or character naming issues the game's community most police its own. That is why there are petition systems in most games.

gillvane1 · July 2008

Originally posted by Thedrizzle
Originally posted by Deivos
<Mod edit>

I dont' see why you think this would be impossible. If porn sites can keep most, if not all, kids out, then you could do the same with an MMO.

JustBe · July 2008

Dumb idea tbh because...

1. You can lie about your age

2. Leads to elitists

3. It's not age which makes you act mature

The way I see it is that these are online games and I want to have fun playing them and annoying other people, EVE Online allows you to annoy other people so why do people hate it on other mmorpgs? If I want to follow someone for 2 hours jumping around everywhere then I will because it's funny. It's funny to train mobs into someone else or stand there and watch them die as they took on too much at once. They start bitching at you and it's like OMG it's only a game :O

Stop taking the games seriosuly tbh.

demolishIX · July 2008

Do people even think before posting their ideas ? ... HEY GUYS IVE GOT AN IDEA,LETS MAKE A SQUARE WHEEL!!!

After you think of an idea,please think of it's flaws or what would you do if a computer was programed to ask you your age ... hmm what could you do if it asked you your age,ofcourse you would tell him your real age despite meaning that you cant watch that violent yet funny movie.

CreepingDoom · July 2008

Asshats come in all shapes and sizes, age restrictions would accomplish nothing.

I've met just as many douchebag adults as I have teens, anonymity and the ability to bully someone from behind your computer desk, without fear of consequence, is not age specific.

Food for thought.

Locklain · July 2008

An even better idea is to make it so that if someone is being immature their home address is posted below their names. This would then entitle said person to receiving all sorts of good stuff in the mail (mustard gas in a coke can, anthrax, dog poo, etc.)

nomadian · July 2008

don't see anything bad about it. Yes any age can be immature- these forums show you that, but grouping with kids- I'd rather not. I don't like having to be a 'parent' nor be open to their sudden departures because their parent has ordered them off the computer.

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