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People on the official MMO forums are brutal.
Waterlily
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I just realized how brutal people are on official MMO forums when a new MMO comes out.
Vanguard was the worst up till now but they have very good reason to be, still it was just a game..right..and people still spelled out more than 1 sentence.
But the funcom forums are just out of control spam, they just seem like teens on a rampage lol.
I mean, will there be a point where MMO companies will just have no forums anymore. Cause they have no use anymore really, it doesn't help anyone, most posts are just "OMG THEY NERFED X/Y/Z" and are just useless really.
"This game sucks" VS "This game rocks."
It's really not only people not in favor of a game, fans can be just as bad or worse usually.
Does anyone avoid official forums now, or just avoids games cause the community is so brutal?
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Warhammer has already announced that they will not have an official forum. Unless its changed without me knowing about it yet they will not be having a forum.
I see, interesting.
I'm starting to think the only games worth playing are the ones without official forums, I really don't want the devs to spend any amount of energy in having to hire people or recruit volunteers to moderate this utter crap. It gets to be too big, let the fans handle it. I've had the pleasure to browse fan sites far better coded, styled and moderated then official forums. There are exceptions, but generally that's what I see.
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people shouldn't let stuff get to them. Official forums are chaotic full of noise, just something to get used to.
It is very bad now .You think the forums are bad it can get even worse in the games.People are even becoming such smart asses,they will tell you they paid 15 bucks for a chat channel,they are going to spam it all they want.The wave of immature players started right around the WOW era,as pretty much every home in the world soon had dsl.WOW was very highly hyped and marketed ,so of course it drew a lot of new gamers especially the immature ones.
They all wanted to become end game raiding pros/experts as i am assuming they think it is in some geek sort of fashion something special.Wow made it fast and easy for them to get to end game ,as there was also a large influx of RMT sites offering power leveling and selling of gaming accounts.
That huge crowd that joined the MMORPG world at that time is now starting to filter into all games new and old.Any game that is hyped now will draw them there,so they can speed level then brag about there raiding skills or tell everyone in the game they know nothing because they havn't done high level raids like they have.I am sure we have heard this kind of rubbish many times over in chat channels.That is nothing however the topics in chat channels now are totally unrelated to the game and usually sound like 12-15 year olds talking rubbish.I have rejoined EQ2 again,and the chat at times in there can reach total immaturity rising above WOW's at times.It wasn't like that several years ago when i first played the game,it has changed dramatically.
So i think games are now becoming more worried about subs than they are about there forums or chat channels.One thing i like is that IMO the larger % of immature players flock to PVP games/servers,so that would hopefully keep me away from them as much as possible.
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Good analysis.
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Mythic is smart.
Official forums are not useful for players!!! they just say something to play at us. quite dislike and never go there..
It's how it was for DAoC (Mythic's first MMO). No official boards, rather they used the Vault Network, but then again everybody uses the vault network...
They had the Camelot Herald, as they have the WAR Herald, where you can go and voice your complaint through a form, or send them your concerns and questions without having to post in the cesspool with all the other people who would rather post on a board then play it.
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i agree with this. some MMO forums are really brutals. j
Just take a look at the sGE forum for example... most people there are antagonistic..
You accidentally "Necroed" a thread and the whole forum community will turn againts you its as if you killed a "Person".
Plus some "Community Crew" and Members are way to sarcastic and stupid. its as if they are living on their own world.
Initiating my Divine Intervention since time immemorial..
In Short: Tough cookies. You want to release a product that has a user then get ready to receive feedback from that user. If you're going to aim your product at pre-pubescent idiots then get ready to feel the brunt of that.
Plus, Vanguard is aweful so it doesn't really surprise me that it's forum is full of unhappy users, regardless of their social skills.
The official forums are the FIRST thing I look for in a game. If the forums are full of unhappy users then the game is bad. I've ignored the forums several times and every time I've regretted it. Also, if you see NO one complaining about the game at all then the forums are heavily moderated. You want to see a small amount of silly complaints like "Class XYZ needs to be hit with the nerf baton", not "Why is this games engine so bland and why is there no content?"
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many of the people that post on the forums are the ones that dont like it , The happy players are to busy to play the game:)
And you think people on the non official boards where their accounts are not linked to the game are less brutal?
If peopler think a game sucks they will say so.
I don't know why games even have forums. They should only have forums after the game is out and make them subscriber only hidden
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Mythic is smart.
You know, I never agreed with Mythic on this decision for DAOC, and when they continued the policy for WAR I wasn't happy.
But since I started playing AOC and realized that I never feel the need to visit the official forums I've decided that perhaps they really aren't that necessary after all.
I get all the info I need from this site actually, and when I need game specific info a quick Google search takes me to either a fansite or official forums for an answer.
So I agree, why waste resources on official forums except I think there always needs to be one to discuss technical problems with the game.
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Ah but official forums are fantastic sources of amusement. Half the fun of a game is reading all the crap on the official forums. Keep em I say, it's part of the enjoyment lol
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
But seemingly unofficial forums like these are fun too?
I don't really care about official/unofficial forums as long as the developers either communicate or don't mess up to much.
Not having any forums seems drastic to me, I doubt I would play such a game really.
Not having any would mean that first of all there is no communications path to the developers.
And secondly meaning that not having them means that you do not need them, as you do not care about what people say and want in any case.
Something of a catch 22.
As for AoC, funcom have them, but they dont really need them as they are hellbent on their now over 8 years policy of total and absolute communications blackout, paired with the notion that they themself can do no wrong and any problem with the game is our fault for not understanding what they aim to do.
Explaining that would be a good start really.
Take the VG forums as an example, yes they were brutal on launch.
Today it seems like one of the friendliest MMO forums there is.
But no forums at all?
Anyone would ask them self what they are hiding and why they are so afraid of people discussing their game.
However, it is probably a good business decision and good for the company at launch.
I do not though, think it is good for the game, and in the long run that will hurt you.
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I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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This reminds me of the Ultima Online stratics forums. Back in the day people were going apeshit post-Ren on the speils n rants forum. Then after those changes there was a full carebear invasion. Looks like these days people are still raising hell about the Trammel split and a new dupe bug thats going around.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Just wanted to point this out to you. You could send all manner of feed back to Mythic through the Camelot Herald without posting on a board that the developers don't read. I think just because it's an official forum does not make it any more visitable by the people who influence the game design. All it is in my opinion is a few people given a tag by the company to represent them on the forums but by the time anything you say on a forum filters down to any person with the ability to implement or do anything about it, half of it's intent is gone. It's like playing that telephone game, where you start out with a phrase and by the time it reaches the 30'th person down the line it barely resembles the original statement.
I've given Mythic plenty of feed back through their herald and have gotten a response in one way or another so I'm quite happy with them maintaining their stance on no official forums. I think it's just an added expense that is not necessary. Some fan site will more then likely pick up the slack and the developers can always go there and read what people are saying, assuming they really want to know.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
You want to see a SAD forum. Spend 5 min going through WOW's forum. I swear no one is over the age of 10. Other then some decent guides that are outdated now. I never found anything else educating at all. Im so glad I dont play WOW anymore.
A forum should be there to educate people.
Official and fansite forum both serve a purpose. Official forums are in the unfortunate position of being the place where everyone with a gripe feels they have a developers ear within reach, hence why they are full of screaming and complaining. Fan forums do not suffer from that in the anywhere near as much.
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