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Once again, you may or may not be correct. All I was saying was that the usage of current stock market statistics in the middle of a 'Bear Market' is not necessarily a reliable indicator.
You are of course entitled to your opinions about shoddy products, we shall just have to see how many people agree with you in the end. For the time being though, the endless parade of predictions of doom based on misuse of statistics is just plain boring.
Hehe, I don't find it boring or I wouldn't be taking the time to argue with you about it!
The market does fluctuate day to day, I won't say the drop is due to one game, I will say that it, along with all the other circumstantial evidence is that many gamers are sick of paying to beta games...finally!
Personally, I would love to see at least two MMOs released that are worthy of release. For God's sake! We are on the same side in a way. More quality releases equals more choice. Lately, MMOs are a wasteland of broken, buggy, unfinished content. AoC happens to be the best, most recent example.
Well if people didnt rush their games to release people might think its vaporware. Look at darkfall, they are taking their sweet ass time to release a finished game. Yet people are still hating on it for being in development for so long and calling it vaporware
People will never be satisfied
I agree, but you completely killed it with your example. Cause a company that barely exists, with their owners doing second jobs to fund their work for Darkfall, which 7 years into the dev process has not shown anything, cannot be considered "sweet ass" time.The best we can expect from Darkfall is something like Dark and Light, if anything. "Sweet ass" time is what Blizzard does.
Once again, you may or may not be correct. All I was saying was that the usage of current stock market statistics in the middle of a 'Bear Market' is not necessarily a reliable indicator.
You are of course entitled to your opinions about shoddy products, we shall just have to see how many people agree with you in the end. For the time being though, the endless parade of predictions of doom based on misuse of statistics is just plain boring.
Hehe, I don't find it boring or I wouldn't be taking the time to argue with you about it!
The market does fluctuate day to day, I won't say the drop is due to one game, I will say that it, along with all the other circumstantial evidence is that many gamers are sick of paying to beta games...finally!
Personally, I would love to see at least two MMOs released that are worthy of release. For God's sake! We are on the same side in a way. More quality releases equals more choice. Lately, MMOs are a wasteland of broken, buggy, unfinished content. AoC happens to be the best, most recent example.
Well if people didnt rush their games to release people might think its vaporware. Look at darkfall, they are taking their sweet ass time to release a finished game. Yet people are still hating on it for being in development for so long and calling it vaporware
People will never be satisfied
I agree, but you completely killed it with your example. Cause a company that barely exists, with their owners doing second jobs to fund their work for Darkfall, which 7 years into the dev process has not shown anything, cannot be considered "sweet ass" time.The best we can expect from Darkfall is something like Dark and Light, if anything. "Sweet ass" time is what Blizzard does.
By "sweet ass time" Im saying that DF devs COULD release DF in its present state. But they dont want to dissapoint anyone. And most of your statements are highly opinionated
And DF and DnL are two different games. DnL followed the casual MMO type genre. Darkfall is a sandbox game with player created content. I doubt that if darkfall came out it would turn out like DnL
Once again, you may or may not be correct. All I was saying was that the usage of current stock market statistics in the middle of a 'Bear Market' is not necessarily a reliable indicator.
You are of course entitled to your opinions about shoddy products, we shall just have to see how many people agree with you in the end. For the time being though, the endless parade of predictions of doom based on misuse of statistics is just plain boring.
Hehe, I don't find it boring or I wouldn't be taking the time to argue with you about it!
The market does fluctuate day to day, I won't say the drop is due to one game, I will say that it, along with all the other circumstantial evidence is that many gamers are sick of paying to beta games...finally!
Personally, I would love to see at least two MMOs released that are worthy of release. For God's sake! We are on the same side in a way. More quality releases equals more choice. Lately, MMOs are a wasteland of broken, buggy, unfinished content. AoC happens to be the best, most recent example.
Well if people didnt rush their games to release people might think its vaporware. Look at darkfall, they are taking their sweet ass time to release a finished game. Yet people are still hating on it for being in development for so long and calling it vaporware
People will never be satisfied
I agree, but you completely killed it with your example. Cause a company that barely exists, with their owners doing second jobs to fund their work for Darkfall, which 7 years into the dev process has not shown anything, cannot be considered "sweet ass" time.The best we can expect from Darkfall is something like Dark and Light, if anything. "Sweet ass" time is what Blizzard does.
By "sweet ass time" Im saying that DF devs COULD release DF in its present state. But they dont want to dissapoint anyone. And most of your statements are highly opinionated
And DF and DnL are two different games. DnL followed the casual MMO type genre. Darkfall is a sandbox game with player created content. I doubt that if darkfall came out it would turn out like DnL
DnL was supposed to be a sandbox as well. The "casual MMO" thing you mention did not exist when DnL started its development. And it was not a failure because of its game design anyway. It was the technical problems - indicative of a small inexperienced, indy company - that ruined it. And these can very well plague DFs release as well. And please read up a little on DF, see stuff like the timeline, the dev journals etc. You will see what I mean. This is the definition of vaporware. But lets move this discussion to the DF forums.
Once again, you may or may not be correct. All I was saying was that the usage of current stock market statistics in the middle of a 'Bear Market' is not necessarily a reliable indicator.
You are of course entitled to your opinions about shoddy products, we shall just have to see how many people agree with you in the end. For the time being though, the endless parade of predictions of doom based on misuse of statistics is just plain boring.
Hehe, I don't find it boring or I wouldn't be taking the time to argue with you about it!
The market does fluctuate day to day, I won't say the drop is due to one game, I will say that it, along with all the other circumstantial evidence is that many gamers are sick of paying to beta games...finally!
Personally, I would love to see at least two MMOs released that are worthy of release. For God's sake! We are on the same side in a way. More quality releases equals more choice. Lately, MMOs are a wasteland of broken, buggy, unfinished content. AoC happens to be the best, most recent example.
Finally something I can agree with you on. I would also love to see MMOs that are released without these sorts of issues, and AoC certainly has more than it's fair share of them.
With MMOs though as with all other choices of entertainment, it's just down to personal taste which is frequently about having to choose from a selection of imperfect options. There just aren't enough MMOs to choose from at the moment. I was thoroughly bored with my old one before AoC came out & almost by definition I wasn't that interested in the alternatives as otherwise I would already have switched.
For the time being AoC is enjoyable for me, possibly because I am a casual player & can't see myself running out of things to do anytime soon. If Funcom don't add all the things they have promised before WAR comes out, I may well switch to that instead so they have a few months to get their act together.
When WAR does come out though, I am expecting the same reception AoC had because most MMOs seem to be released with 'issues' these days & once the professional haters turn against a game they just seem to want to see the game ground into the dust for disappointing them rather than giving it a chance.
Yes it is bad that games are released with issues that should have been resolved before launch, but if you are potentially going to play something for a long time does it really matter that much if there is a bumpy start? That is obviously something we do not agree on though.
"Does it really matter that much if there is a bumpy start?", that's funny....AoC costs about £10 per month...that's £120 a year and you're happy to accept a substandard product with the "promise" they'll get around to fixing it?
That's like buying a car but they don't supply the wheels...it's alright though, they promise they'll supply them at some point down the line. I can't be the only one who thinks that if I pay "Fun"com good money I expect a decent product?
A failing company drops far more than what this as done (look at Northern Rock/Bradford and Bingley in the UK) this is just the current market downturn that is happening, with maybe a bit of consumer spending worries added in.
The game is doing well, I know people that have played it to level 50 and stopped, but they will be back once the middle is filled in.
IMHO its poopy :P
Eh? please speak English and make some sense. Somebody says something you disagree with so they got banned for exploiting the game? people are unhappy with the idea of paying for something that is not release ready so it's their fault for wanting the game released? Erm, WoW was bugged at release but playable. It is why loTRO (with its absence of feat trees) got immediately compared to it. As it (and in its own way Guild Wars) is regularly compared in terms of both their launches. They both had numerous issues at launch but none of them were considered game breakers. Now. an end game pvp gaming launching without end-game pvp...
are you really wanting to say AoC did not launch broke? Stop attacking individuals for making valid points. If ya are prepared to put up with it fine but whining about others not sharing your view reflects on you and not them.
Me, I just tried to cancel as i did a run through of the forums and there are still no fresh mod posts implying they are still gagged. I've got nothing else to do gamewise but go back to WoW. if they permitted the mods to talk to the players i might find a reason to stay but its the absence of info that's hacking me off.
It's down to 21.20 a share now form a high of 55.50 back in May. Question is (when?) will it go below the 17.60 it dropped to last January.
I miss DAoC
sigh sounds like someone made cause they got banned for exploits. butr oh well on a serous note all of u need to stfu. i played anarchyonline for nearly 3 years and its from funcom. stop bitting the games head off for aoc and they can fix it they will do it as fast as they can.
and on content and stuff at release it was people like u that wanted the game to be rushed out to u on may 20th that is partialy responsible for putting funcom in this spot. give them soem time to fix the game its not likeevery game has ever come out wtih perfect score or with everything they said it would have. including wow and such.
The only things I could gleen from this post were:
1) All games were broken at release, so this precedent is fine, and expect every new piece of software to be broken. That's just the way it is.
2) I...I',m an..exploiter? lol!
3) School wasn't your "bag".
4) I alone am responsible for unreleased buggy games being released, despite my railing against just that.
5) I hate people that are too lazy to type in a coherent manor, and too lazy to type those extra two letters in "you". Must be tough posting from your cell phone I have to assume.
Seriously though, the STFU comment was really great. Did you invent that?
P.S. I got "made" after i took that hit on "legs" Fazzio for not paying his weekly Vig, not for pointing out AoC's shortcomings. Watch out.
ya shows what he knows
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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3) School wasn't your "bag".
5) I hate people that are too lazy to type in a coherent manor, and too lazy to type those extra two letters in "you". Must be tough posting from your cell phone I have to assume.
As you said complete laziness, and they don't understand how they come across as small children who were never taught how to form arguments.
Lets look at the facts here:
1) AoC was missing important parts when launched - post 50 and pvp end game
This is standard for most new launches but this is important to this game as this was what it was sold on - bit like if EVE sold on cowboys and indians and people found it was a space game.
2) Funcom isn't going to die - Conan is still selling well and I know a good few people who are still playing it - therefore paying subscriptions
3) Long term viability of conan is based on how they develop and enhance it now and adds fixes and content, just like any other mmorpg
4) hatebois and fanbois will think what they'll think no matter what structured arguments you form, this is the internet :P
Hah why August 14th? I doubt we will see crash, but a gradual decline into depression is what I would prognose.
Its an astrological prediction.. Human nature reacts to certain alignments, its pretty much a proven fact, and all the elites use astrologers.
Hah why August 14th? I doubt we will see crash, but a gradual decline into depression is what I would prognose.
Its an astrological prediction.. Human nature reacts to certain alignments, its pretty much a proven fact, and all the elites use astrologers.
Astrology a science? Proven facts? Are you serious? Who are those elites you are talking about? A bunch of weirdos that make lots of money, I guess.
not a astrologer but I bet this line goes below 20 a share before the end of the week
I miss DAoC
i'm so sick of these idiots calling DF vapourware - the game has more videos + screenshots + developer interviews than pretty much any pre-released game ever made - 6 gameplay videos, > 600 screenshots, and 250 single-spaced pages of developer updates - how is this "not shown anything"?. the DF developers are not taking second jobs, what a crock... so what the art director has a hobby site, this is your idea of second job?
taking a long time to develop a game != vapourware, vapourware is synonymous with an inactive or abandoned project. seeing as there are developer updates every 2-4 weeks on top of the already released media, calling DF vapourware is just ignorant.
your opinion is proved worthless by facts.
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Seems like the flood of cancellations from bugs/missing content and blatant marketing lies are taking their toll. FC share price has almost halved in just a few weeks.
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and the guy with the graph on top...zoom out to a 6 month period for heaven's sake.
Just go back to March this year.....i dare you, go check their stock price. It's evident FC stock price was similar than "this ultimate low" it's now and -spiked- when AoC released.....
finance.aol.com/quotes/funcom-nv-katwijk/fcmkf/nao
It's even more evident it's probably just "going back down to normal levels" . So this "halving" seen as a "crash" is BS, it's an "event" , and the "event" is over.
Also, other events such as this most certainly had more direct impact on their stock price too....
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Jul 07, 2008 (NORDIC BUSINESS REPORT -- Swiss-Norwegian computer games developer Funcom NV (OSE: FUNCOM) said on Monday (7 July) that it has sold its Norwegian subsidiary Plutolife AS to the Australian mobile content company Jumbuck Entertainment Ltd (ASX: JMB).
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Some people here are just haters. I can guarantee you Blizzard's stock will do the exact same thing when WotLk launch and guess what, it will "settle down" after the party is over. Is everyone going to go "omg Blizzard is going down!! world is ending1!!"
So lets play doom prophet , Electronic Arts [EA] is behind Mythic who's doing Warhammer:
Go check their fun Stock Market price :
finance.aol.com/quotes/electronic-arts-inc/erts/nas
Omg, warhammer is gonna fail, EA's stock price has dropped 20% since may!!...