I can't comment on druids or priests. But I don't find any class hard to level. I leveled a paladin and a warrior to 70 and both were protection spec. The fights sometimes took awhile but they were not hard. Not sure about end game raiding as I loathe raiding and curse its existence.
Warriors have hamstring and an AOE fear effect on a 3 min cooldown. Other classes have probably better escape powers, but its not fair to say warriors have none at all. Those two tricks have saved my warriors hide more times that i can count-
I do not know what I am doing wrong then, because I have an alt that is a priest I am having a horrible time leveling him. I mostly have to solo because I just can not seem to find a group. He is level 10 right now and life is hard as a priest for me. I will take any advice someone wants to give me.
The AoE paladin everyone is talking about... would it be possible to get a spec suggestion i have a lvl 25 which i'm finding a bit boring to lvl but with AoE i might get more fun
I do not know what I am doing wrong then, because I have an alt that is a priest I am having a horrible time leveling him. I mostly have to solo because I just can not seem to find a group. He is level 10 right now and life is hard as a priest for me. I will take any advice someone wants to give me.
At level 10 this is how i level my priest:
1) cast Power Word: Fortitude
2) cast shadow word: pain
3) cast mind blast
4) wand it to death, and cast smite or mind blast in between.
5) if not, bubble and run
But you really need a very good wand, i always spend some money to get a blue color wand.
And im also intrested about the Aoe pally concept, wouldn't going Ret is better since it can deal more damage?
The AoE paladin everyone is talking about... would it be possible to get a spec suggestion i have a lvl 25 which i'm finding a bit boring to lvl but with AoE i might get more fun
Stay Ret until level 35 then respec to something like http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tIh0zx get a fast 1 hander and a shield with a spike, Ret Aura, Blessing of Light, Rightious Fury up at all times and just let them pound away on you. Try to have at least 3 or 4 mobs on you at a time at lower levels (increase as you get higher), if they run off let them bring friends, more the merrier.
It's great for multi-mob pulls but sucks for single mob pulls. I was on the beach in Swamp of Sorrows once and Murlocs kept attacking, there were about 20 dead by the end and I was down to about half health.
The AoE paladin everyone is talking about... would it be possible to get a spec suggestion i have a lvl 25 which i'm finding a bit boring to lvl but with AoE i might get more fun
Stay Ret until level 35 then respec to something like http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tIh0zx get a fast 1 hander and a shield with a spike, Ret Aura, Blessing of Light, Rightious Fury up at all times and just let them pound away on you. Try to have at least 3 or 4 mobs on you at a time at lower levels (increase as you get higher), if they run off let them bring friends, more the merrier.
It's great for multi-mob pulls but sucks for single mob pulls. I was on the beach in Swamp of Sorrows once and Murlocs kept attacking, there were about 20 dead by the end and I was down to about half health.
Blessing of light? I might be wrong, but it doesn't seem you've done this really before. You can respec @ level 30, no need to wait for 35?
Basically, you want to get 5/5 Reckoning before you respec to protection and try AOE grinding. Once you have 5/5, you'll be good. You also do not use Blessing of Light. You use Blessing of Sanctuary (reduces damage you take and does holy damage to anyone that attacks and you block). Also, those murlocs on the beach are full of casters -- the good murlocs to grind in Dustwallow are gone with the zone revamp. There's a few on the beach, on an island, that are all melee, but you can clear them in one pull.
Your bread and butter as this is to get as many mobs as you can, have a shield spike, keep improved righteous fury up as well as blessing of santuary. Slowly judge of light all the mobs you have, you can throw judgement of wisdom if you have problems conserving mana. I'd advise you not to spam consecrate, most pulls I wouldn't even use it. For the mana cost it just isn't worth it unless you want downtime.
Once you get Holy Shield and you use it when redoubt procs, you'll notice how fast the mobs health bar starts to go down. You're doing damage every block from 3-4 sources: shield spike, blessing of sanctuary, retribution aura, your reckoning, etc.
4 mobs at a time just isn't worth it, tho, really. You could be doing so much more with relative ease, never having to manually heal. Reckoning will proc with judgement of light up and the heals are just insane.
If anyone is curious on how this works, what build to go, where to do it at, there's a pretty good thread on the WoW forums someone posted that is a complete guide; has videos, talents, all that:
pallies most likely. theyre a cross between healers, buffers, and tanks, but they dont shine until the later lvls (65+ maybe?).
rogues are pretty easy to lvl tho. cuz when theyre doing quests they can just stealth thru piles of mobs saving time instead of plowing thru them like the other classes, therefore faster quest completions. thats my my opinion tho.
Warriors are most difficult to level imo followed closely by shamans. I've levelled both, and the annoying thing about Warriors and Shamans is that they both die a lot during levelling, pull one to many and you're gone.
I've also levelled a pally, and they aren't so bad. Although they are boring to level, at least they NEVER die during levelling.
Originally posted by arctarus Ive played a shammy to lvl 50 and deleted it. The mana inefficiency really drives me crazy.... really cant imagine ive to sit down to drink and eat after every 2 to 3 mobs.... worst than my war....
Mana inefficiency? Obviously you didn't go enhancement. Enhancement = almost zero downtime.
As for the hardest/most boring class to level? Pallies hands down.
Cast Seal....Stare at your auto attack...Cast Judgment......rinse and repeat until you want to rip your eyes out of your socket.
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It amazes me on how many people replying are completely clueless. I mean seriously, do you guys not play the game? Honestly, I'd be surprised if half of these people replying never had a character above 40.
Paladins hard to level? You guys are completely clueless. Paladin AOE Grinding. Google it, you morons. Anyone who single-target grinds as retribution is a complete moron and you deserve all the boredom you got out of leveling that way. Spec protection, kill 20 mobs by the time your rogue friend kills 3-4.
I don't think that "hardest" should really be the word used here...maybe "least easy" would be more appropriate.
If that is the case, then I would say anything but Huntards...Warlocks are seen as being very easy to level, but I think that this might be a by-product of how many warlock rerolls were seen pre-BC (when warlocks were Gods)...People leveled up warlocks when they already had experience leveling up their other class and already were familiar with the game and therefore found it easy to level up...That's just my theory of course, but I think that it holds some water.
I've leveled two paladins and I have to say that I found them easier than my warlock, at least, they were EASIER, though not necessarily faster...I never had to worry about dynig as a paladin, and that saved me quite a few headaches and frustrated screaming at my computer screen.
My experience with classes only really extends to rogues, paladins, warlocks, hunters, and warriors, and of those five, I would have to say that warriors are the slowest.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I don't think that "hardest" should really be the word used here...maybe "least easy" would be more appropriate.
If that is the case, then I would say anything but Huntards...Warlocks are seen as being very easy to level, but I think that this might be a by-product of how many warlock rerolls were seen pre-BC (when warlocks were Gods)...People leveled up warlocks when they already had experience leveling up their other class and already were familiar with the game and therefore found it easy to level up...That's just my theory of course, but I think that it holds some water.
I've leveled two paladins and I have to say that I found them easier than my warlock, at least, they were EASIER, though not necessarily faster...I never had to worry about dynig as a paladin, and that saved me quite a few headaches and frustrated screaming at my computer screen.
My experience with classes only really extends to rogues, paladins, warlocks, hunters, and warriors, and of those five, I would have to say that warriors are the slowest.
Which tree you spec for your pally? Ret? Im think of going Ret as i prefer melee than too much healing....
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I can't comment on druids or priests. But I don't find any class hard to level. I leveled a paladin and a warrior to 70 and both were protection spec. The fights sometimes took awhile but they were not hard. Not sure about end game raiding as I loathe raiding and curse its existence.
Warriors have hamstring and an AOE fear effect on a 3 min cooldown. Other classes have probably better escape powers, but its not fair to say warriors have none at all. Those two tricks have saved my warriors hide more times that i can count-
I do not know what I am doing wrong then, because I have an alt that is a priest I am having a horrible time leveling him. I mostly have to solo because I just can not seem to find a group. He is level 10 right now and life is hard as a priest for me. I will take any advice someone wants to give me.
The AoE paladin everyone is talking about... would it be possible to get a spec suggestion i have a lvl 25 which i'm finding a bit boring to lvl but with AoE i might get more fun
At level 10 this is how i level my priest:
1) cast Power Word: Fortitude
2) cast shadow word: pain
3) cast mind blast
4) wand it to death, and cast smite or mind blast in between.
5) if not, bubble and run
But you really need a very good wand, i always spend some money to get a blue color wand.
And im also intrested about the Aoe pally concept, wouldn't going Ret is better since it can deal more damage?
Thank you
RIP Orc Choppa
Stay Ret until level 35 then respec to something like http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tIh0zx get a fast 1 hander and a shield with a spike, Ret Aura, Blessing of Light, Rightious Fury up at all times and just let them pound away on you. Try to have at least 3 or 4 mobs on you at a time at lower levels (increase as you get higher), if they run off let them bring friends, more the merrier.
It's great for multi-mob pulls but sucks for single mob pulls. I was on the beach in Swamp of Sorrows once and Murlocs kept attacking, there were about 20 dead by the end and I was down to about half health.
Stay Ret until level 35 then respec to something like http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tIh0zx get a fast 1 hander and a shield with a spike, Ret Aura, Blessing of Light, Rightious Fury up at all times and just let them pound away on you. Try to have at least 3 or 4 mobs on you at a time at lower levels (increase as you get higher), if they run off let them bring friends, more the merrier.
It's great for multi-mob pulls but sucks for single mob pulls. I was on the beach in Swamp of Sorrows once and Murlocs kept attacking, there were about 20 dead by the end and I was down to about half health.
Blessing of light? I might be wrong, but it doesn't seem you've done this really before. You can respec @ level 30, no need to wait for 35?
Basically, you want to get 5/5 Reckoning before you respec to protection and try AOE grinding. Once you have 5/5, you'll be good. You also do not use Blessing of Light. You use Blessing of Sanctuary (reduces damage you take and does holy damage to anyone that attacks and you block). Also, those murlocs on the beach are full of casters -- the good murlocs to grind in Dustwallow are gone with the zone revamp. There's a few on the beach, on an island, that are all melee, but you can clear them in one pull.
Your bread and butter as this is to get as many mobs as you can, have a shield spike, keep improved righteous fury up as well as blessing of santuary. Slowly judge of light all the mobs you have, you can throw judgement of wisdom if you have problems conserving mana. I'd advise you not to spam consecrate, most pulls I wouldn't even use it. For the mana cost it just isn't worth it unless you want downtime.
Once you get Holy Shield and you use it when redoubt procs, you'll notice how fast the mobs health bar starts to go down. You're doing damage every block from 3-4 sources: shield spike, blessing of sanctuary, retribution aura, your reckoning, etc.
4 mobs at a time just isn't worth it, tho, really. You could be doing so much more with relative ease, never having to manually heal. Reckoning will proc with judgement of light up and the heals are just insane.
If anyone is curious on how this works, what build to go, where to do it at, there's a pretty good thread on the WoW forums someone posted that is a complete guide; has videos, talents, all that:
forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html
Thank you both very much! Nice post.... will try on my pally when he reach lvl 35! Thx again
RIP Orc Choppa
Only character I've ever had problems levelling was a resto druid. They kill so stupidly slowly.
And that includes levelling:
A holy/disc priest from 1-60: no problems (DPS is surprisingly good)
A prot warrior from 1-40: no problems (immense survivability)
A resto shaman from 60-70: no problems (kill speed isn't great, but after you get water shield, you never need to drink).
Levelling is easy. Unless you're a resto druid!
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pallies most likely. theyre a cross between healers, buffers, and tanks, but they dont shine until the later lvls (65+ maybe?).
rogues are pretty easy to lvl tho. cuz when theyre doing quests they can just stealth thru piles of mobs saving time instead of plowing thru them like the other classes, therefore faster quest completions. thats my my opinion tho.
Warriors are most difficult to level imo followed closely by shamans. I've levelled both, and the annoying thing about Warriors and Shamans is that they both die a lot during levelling, pull one to many and you're gone.
I've also levelled a pally, and they aren't so bad. Although they are boring to level, at least they NEVER die during levelling.
Mana inefficiency? Obviously you didn't go enhancement. Enhancement = almost zero downtime.
As for the hardest/most boring class to level? Pallies hands down.
Cast Seal....Stare at your auto attack...Cast Judgment......rinse and repeat until you want to rip your eyes out of your socket.
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Well, with the changes to quest xp, i'd say the hardest to level is the one your not playing.
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warriors and paly is toughest to lvl. hunter is easiest with druid behind them. next lock, blah blah rest of them.
It amazes me on how many people replying are completely clueless. I mean seriously, do you guys not play the game? Honestly, I'd be surprised if half of these people replying never had a character above 40.
Paladins hard to level? You guys are completely clueless. Paladin AOE Grinding. Google it, you morons. Anyone who single-target grinds as retribution is a complete moron and you deserve all the boredom you got out of leveling that way. Spec protection, kill 20 mobs by the time your rogue friend kills 3-4.
i don't grind my lvls like that. so aoe grinding wasn't in my evaluation.
I don't think that "hardest" should really be the word used here...maybe "least easy" would be more appropriate.
If that is the case, then I would say anything but Huntards...Warlocks are seen as being very easy to level, but I think that this might be a by-product of how many warlock rerolls were seen pre-BC (when warlocks were Gods)...People leveled up warlocks when they already had experience leveling up their other class and already were familiar with the game and therefore found it easy to level up...That's just my theory of course, but I think that it holds some water.
I've leveled two paladins and I have to say that I found them easier than my warlock, at least, they were EASIER, though not necessarily faster...I never had to worry about dynig as a paladin, and that saved me quite a few headaches and frustrated screaming at my computer screen.
My experience with classes only really extends to rogues, paladins, warlocks, hunters, and warriors, and of those five, I would have to say that warriors are the slowest.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Which tree you spec for your pally? Ret? Im think of going Ret as i prefer melee than too much healing....
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