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Why is it that they did not hold any Q&A's with mmorpg.com?

BoldSaxonBoldSaxon Member Posts: 37

It's a really strange thing. They seem to be completely passing up doing any kind of Q&A's with this site. I mean it's just the biggest mmorpg site around...  Instead Tasos opts to do a interview with some unknown Greek website.

I suppose there he can get away with telling his fibs.

Completely baffles the mind the way these people operate. It's like they intentionally go out of their way to fail and do everything wrong.  lol

I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.

 

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  • Friction2uFriction2u Member Posts: 293


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
    It's a really strange thing. They seem to be completely passing up doing any kind of Q&A's with this site. I mean it's just the biggest mmorpg site around... Instead Tasos opts to do a interview with some unknown Greek website.
    I suppose there he can get away with telling his fibs.
    Completely baffles the mind the way these people operate. It's like they intentionally go out of their way to fail and do everything wrong. lol
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.

    Why would they give mmorpg.com a Q&A when they are currently giving their developer updates to Warcry?

    You're coming off a little "mmorpg fanboy", if such a thing exists.

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  • WaterlilyWaterlily Member UncommonPosts: 3,105
    Originally posted by BoldSaxon



    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.
     

     

    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

  • Friction2uFriction2u Member Posts: 293


    Originally posted by Waterlily
    Originally posted by BoldSaxon I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.


    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.
    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

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  • WaterlilyWaterlily Member UncommonPosts: 3,105
    Originally posted by Friction2u


     
    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

     

    Riiiiight, they're just exactly the same people that filed bankruptcy but just made a new company instead.

    Righty o....we'll believe ya..not.

  • BoldSaxonBoldSaxon Member Posts: 37
    Originally posted by Friction2u


     
    Why would they give mmorpg.com a Q&A when they are currently giving their developer updates to Warcry?



     

    because they don't do developer updates with warcry anymore?

  • mrroboto40mrroboto40 Member UncommonPosts: 657
    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
     
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.









    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

     

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

     

    Well Razorwax were the ones with lawsuits and bankruptcy. He didn't say they were making the game.

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  • SilvarchSilvarch Member Posts: 233
    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by BoldSaxon

    It's a really strange thing. They seem to be completely passing up doing any kind of Q&A's with this site. I mean it's just the biggest mmorpg site around... Instead Tasos opts to do a interview with some unknown Greek website.

    I suppose there he can get away with telling his fibs.

    Completely baffles the mind the way these people operate. It's like they intentionally go out of their way to fail and do everything wrong. lol

    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.


     

    Why would they give mmorpg.com a Q&A when they are currently giving their developer updates to Warcry?

    You're coming off a little "mmorpg fanboy", if such a thing exists.

    I'm not so sure of this:

    forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

    "Our main contact has left Warcry so we’ll see what we’ll be doing with the Journal there."

    There hasn't been another dev update on WarCry after 05/09/2008. Hopefully they'll get it sorted out.

    Originally posted by Friction2u

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

    Shouldn't they, technically, both be making it? What happened to the merger?

  • jiveturkey12jiveturkey12 Member CommonPosts: 1,262
    Originally posted by mrroboto40

    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
     
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.









    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

     

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

     

    Well Razorwax were the ones with lawsuits and bankruptcy. He didn't say they were making the game.



     

    Actually if you read the OP he says Taos, and then in referance to the original post waterlily said they, and razorwax, meaning he did think they were the ones making it.

     

    The reason we need to clarify this, is because with a game like Darkfall you have to get all the facts straight, if you hate it or you like it.

     

    -Jive

  • mrroboto40mrroboto40 Member UncommonPosts: 657
    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by mrroboto40

    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
     
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.









    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

     

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

     

    Well Razorwax were the ones with lawsuits and bankruptcy. He didn't say they were making the game.



     

    Actually if you read the OP he says Taos, and then in referance to the original post waterlily said they, and razorwax, meaning he did think they were the ones making it.

     

    The reason we need to clarify this, is because with a game like Darkfall you have to get all the facts straight, if you hate it or you like it.

     

    -Jive

     

    We shouldn't be the ones digging for facts, they should have been handed out to us.

     

    But this is Darkfall, the wolrd of unknowns.

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  • darkwondererdarkwonderer Member Posts: 42

    I heard he was actually arrested for smuggling drugs in the 80's. And that this game is actually a front for a very large cartel. This is why there is no game, and why all those lawsuits mysteriously went away.

  • jiveturkey12jiveturkey12 Member CommonPosts: 1,262
    Originally posted by mrroboto40

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by mrroboto40

    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
     
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.









    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

     

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

     

    Well Razorwax were the ones with lawsuits and bankruptcy. He didn't say they were making the game.



     

    Actually if you read the OP he says Taos, and then in referance to the original post waterlily said they, and razorwax, meaning he did think they were the ones making it.

     

    The reason we need to clarify this, is because with a game like Darkfall you have to get all the facts straight, if you hate it or you like it.

     

    -Jive

     

    We shouldn't be the ones digging for facts, they should have been handed out to us.

     

    But this is Darkfall, the wolrd of unknowns.



     

    Im sorry friend but there is a difference between someone stating something as fact and someone digging for facts.

    All that waterlilly did was falsify information that is alreayd out there, no digging he just got it wrong.

     

    -Jive

  • COORSCOORS Member UncommonPosts: 353
    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
     
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.







    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

     

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.



     

    And for the last time... Aventurine is Razorwax.

    It was started by the SAME people that formed Razorwax. You make it sound like it's a NEW company that bought out or took over the production of Darkfall. That is absolutely not true.

    What is it you don't understand about that? There are PLENTY of threads using the actual words of the partners to support this, but you keep going as if you don't understand?

    They formed Aventurine and moved to Greece. "They" being the SAME people who started Darkfall to begin with. Nothing else was changed.

    In fact, the SAME people today that are running Aventurine STILL own Razorwax which is now filling for backruptcy.

    But.. It is virtually the SAME people. Nothing is really different.

     

  • VansinneVansinne Member Posts: 212
    Originally posted by COORS

    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
     
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.



     


    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

     

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.



     

    And for the last time... Aventurine is Razorwax.

    It was started by the SAME people that formed Razorwax. You make it sound like it's a NEW company that bought out or took over the production of Darkfall. That is absolutely not true.

    What is it you don't understand about that? There are PLENTY of threads using the actual words of the partners to support this, but you keep going as if you don't understand?

    They formed Aventurine and moved to Greece. "They" being the SAME people who started Darkfall to begin with. Nothing else was changed.

    In fact, the SAME people today that are running Aventurine STILL own Razorwax which is now filling for backruptcy.

    But.. It is virtually the SAME people. Nothing is really different.

     

     

    They where filling for bankruptcy in 2006, because they bought loose the shareholders. It's not something unusual here in Sweden nor in Norway. And like many others you completely ignore the facts about the information in 2007 and 2008. Razorwax is still a functional company and it's not Aventurine.

  • chokepointchokepoint Member Posts: 160
    Originally posted by BoldSaxon


    It's a really strange thing. They seem to be completely passing up doing any kind of Q&A's with this site. I mean it's just the biggest mmorpg site around...  Instead Tasos opts to do a interview with some unknown Greek website.
    I suppose there he can get away with telling his fibs.
    Completely baffles the mind the way these people operate. It's like they intentionally go out of their way to fail and do everything wrong.  lol
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.

     

    correct me if i'm wrong, but don't the Darkfall devs provide a developer journal every 2-4 weeks?

     

    talk about over-reaching & clutching at a straw argument - most people i know think Darkfall is progressing great.

     

    mmorpg.com is trash anyway - there's almost no original material, the mods are TERRIBLE, and 90% of the posters are just clueless. it's a site for trolling game forums, not serious discussion.

     

  • SilvarchSilvarch Member Posts: 233
    Originally posted by Vansinne

    Originally posted by COORS

    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
     
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.

     


    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

     

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.



     

    And for the last time... Aventurine is Razorwax.

    It was started by the SAME people that formed Razorwax. You make it sound like it's a NEW company that bought out or took over the production of Darkfall. That is absolutely not true.

    What is it you don't understand about that? There are PLENTY of threads using the actual words of the partners to support this, but you keep going as if you don't understand?

    They formed Aventurine and moved to Greece. "They" being the SAME people who started Darkfall to begin with. Nothing else was changed.

    In fact, the SAME people today that are running Aventurine STILL own Razorwax which is now filling for backruptcy.

    But.. It is virtually the SAME people. Nothing is really different.

     

     

    They where filling for bankruptcy in 2006, because they bought loose the shareholders. It's not something unusual here in Sweden nor in Norway. And like many others you completely ignore the facts about the information in 2007 and 2008. Razorwax is still a functional company and it's not Aventurine.

     

    Dated 8 days after the bankrupcty filing. Click on the picture to check for yourself.

  • SilvarchSilvarch Member Posts: 233
    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by mrroboto40

    Originally posted by jiveturkey12

    Originally posted by mrroboto40

    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by BoldSaxon
     
    I refuse to believe anyone can be this incompetent that's why I believe there's more sinister motives behind it.









    I agree. Which is why people asked this game to be taken of. MMORPG creates and supports the hype.

    I really don't think their motive is legit after all the lawsuits, bankruptcy and all the strange info that is coming to light about Razorwax.

     

    Lawsuits?

    LOL

    You guys need to stop making stuff up!

    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

     

    Well Razorwax were the ones with lawsuits and bankruptcy. He didn't say they were making the game.



     

    Actually if you read the OP he says Taos, and then in referance to the original post waterlily said they, and razorwax, meaning he did think they were the ones making it.

     

    The reason we need to clarify this, is because with a game like Darkfall you have to get all the facts straight, if you hate it or you like it.

     

    -Jive

     

    We shouldn't be the ones digging for facts, they should have been handed out to us.

     

    But this is Darkfall, the wolrd of unknowns.



     

    Im sorry friend but there is a difference between someone stating something as fact and someone digging for facts.

    All that waterlilly did was falsify information that is alreayd out there, no digging he just got it wrong.

     

    -Jive

    Are the people behind Razorwax up to bankruptcy (including Tasos) not some of the same people behind Aventurine and DF? Shouldn't they, if one is to believe the statements from the people in charge of the company and project, have been the same company since the "merger" back in 2003? What happened to merger then? Or does merger mean to include Tasos in the board of directors and run the company as a separate entity with some irregularities until it goes bankrupt 3 years later?

    What information did Waterlily falsify?

  • SilvarchSilvarch Member Posts: 233
    Originally posted by chokepoint



    mmorpg.com is trash anyway - there's almost no original material, the mods are TERRIBLE, and 90% of the posters are just clueless. it's a site for trolling game forums, not serious discussion.
     

    Does this mean you are here to troll then?

  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630
    Originally posted by Silvarch

    Originally posted by chokepoint



    mmorpg.com is trash anyway - there's almost no original material, the mods are TERRIBLE, and 90% of the posters are just clueless. it's a site for trolling game forums, not serious discussion.
     

    Does this mean you are here to troll then?



     

    No just to make a very valid point, try having a  discussion here just doesn't work for serious discussions better places exist.

    And as per the thread, they have no need to treat mmorpg.com to a Q&A, they understand what they are about and are consistent and non pandering.

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  • chokepointchokepoint Member Posts: 160
    Originally posted by Silvarch

    Originally posted by chokepoint



    mmorpg.com is trash anyway - there's almost no original material, the mods are TERRIBLE, and 90% of the posters are just clueless. it's a site for trolling game forums, not serious discussion.
     

    Does this mean you are here to troll then?

     

    No but it's clear that a lot of people are.

  • SilvarchSilvarch Member Posts: 233
    Originally posted by chokepoint

    Originally posted by Silvarch

    Originally posted by chokepoint



    mmorpg.com is trash anyway - there's almost no original material, the mods are TERRIBLE, and 90% of the posters are just clueless. it's a site for trolling game forums, not serious discussion.
     

    Does this mean you are here to troll then?

     

    No but it's clear that a lot of people are.

    If you believe this "it's a site for trolling game forums, not serious discussion.", and the rest of what you posted, why are you here? I think even other supporters are here for a serious discussion, or at least seem to be.

  • Friction2uFriction2u Member Posts: 293


    Originally posted by Waterlily
    Originally posted by Friction2u
    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.

    Riiiiight, they're just exactly the same people that filed bankruptcy but just made a new company instead.
    Righty o....we'll believe ya..not.

    You have your time-line wrong there.

    The Razorwax team jumped ship and were integrated into Aventurine in 2002. Four years later this abandoned company (Razorwax) with no employees slid into bankruptcy.

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  • SilvarchSilvarch Member Posts: 233
    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by Friction2u
     


    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.







    Riiiiight, they're just exactly the same people that filed bankruptcy but just made a new company instead.

    Righty o....we'll believe ya..not.

     

    You have your time-line wrong there.

    The Razorwax team jumped ship and were integrated into Aventurine in 2002. Four years later this abandoned company (Razorwax) with no employees slid into bankruptcy.

     

    If they abandoned the company for Aventurine:

    Why was it called a merger between the two companies?

    Why were Tasos and Jade added to the board of directors?

    Why are there activities during the 2003-2006 period, including changes of management and illegal loans to shareholders?

    Why are there statements in the financial information tab for  losses (including operating loss, how do you incur in operating losses if you're not operating), assets and liabilities every year from 2003 to 2006, with their values changing yearly?

  • SilvarchSilvarch Member Posts: 233
    Originally posted by Friction2u


     

    Originally posted by Waterlily


    Originally posted by Friction2u
     


    And for the last time, Aventurine is making Darkfall ... not Razorwax.







    Riiiiight, they're just exactly the same people that filed bankruptcy but just made a new company instead.

    Righty o....we'll believe ya..not.

     

    You have your time-line wrong there.

    The Razorwax team jumped ship and were integrated into Aventurine in 2002. Four years later this abandoned company (Razorwax) with no employees slid into bankruptcy.

    Also, they obviously now have 0 employees since the company has been inactive since it went bankrupt, but how do you know that was the case before the filing?

  • Friction2uFriction2u Member Posts: 293


    Originally posted by Silvarch
    Why was it called a merger between the two companies?

    It was never a merger. It was never called a merger.

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  • gothagotha Member UncommonPosts: 1,074

    They have no contact at warcry anymore,  so not sure why they would do them here.  My only guess is that the sites might not be doing one with him till they actually see a game.  Going around screaming beta beta beta can kind of ruin your reputation.  Or they might be looking for a more apt time push the PR machine.

     

    They also said their were more interviews,  but visits but I have not seen anything yet.  I can see the interviews being delayed depending on when editors wish to run them,  but visits normally get posted fast.

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