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The Real Biggest change in 7-17 patch
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The Real biggest change in 7-17 patch
Inifinite Knockdown and Stuns.
Combos takes effect even the combo doesnt finnish, so every combo can be cancelled before the last second, to prevent the cooldown cost. Which means every combo can be recasted without it's cooldown.
All class balance have gone out of the window. Everyone in pvp servers are going crazy knocking down and stun locking.
How can a patch be release without noticing such a major mistake in their mechanics. Their staff simply dont have strong knowledge of the actually mechanics of their game and tries to implement quick fixes without testing them with ppl who actually plays the game.
Until the game is fixed, there is current no balance in the game.
A Major mistake due to inexperience on Funcom's part at the cost of the subscribers.
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I forgot to mention the perma invisble players that are also running around killing players after the patch.
This is hell of a intresting patch that introduces more game breaking bugs then it tries to fix.
Working as intended..... Nothing to see here
STOP WHINING!
yep.
found that one out within minutes of playing..
i was on the fence about going another month of subscription on the game..
i think this patch really just pushed me off the fence.. this company seems to have no competence. i mean honestly... how do you let that happen? how? no funcom, your PAYING customers are NOT your BETA TESTERS.... sigh.
i think i gave the game a fair chance, 2 months of playing, one lvl 80, a 77, and multiple others in the 30/40's..
this isnt worth coming back to for at least a couple of months.. when theyve reduced the amount of patching from twice to once a week.
When I check back here regularly looking for good news that the game is improving I read stuff like this for every patch and I don't know whether to cry or laugh. I guess I'm just glad I canceled to give them time to fix things. If I'd renewed for another month I'm sure I'd be crying not considering laughing.
I just hope it isn't as bad as it seems and that people playing it aren't totally demoralized.
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Ethion
oh dont get me wrong.. ive had fun playing it for a while
the incompetence just gets to you eventually.. because you are actually paying for this.. and i dont think anyone wants to pay money for a game that looks like its getting broken every other patch
hehe
Dunno what its going to take for folks to realize that the problem with Funcom is they just don't have much talent. If you don't have a skilled workforce, you're going to have less than desirable results. That's all it comes down to really. Give that game to a developer with a huge talent pool and an attention for detail and both AO and AoC would've produced different results.
How about this from US forums:
"This doesn't make any sense, why are daggers slower than polearms and 2h edged? Is this the way it is supposed to be, or did they mess up? I don't see how this could be intended."
According to that thread 2H are 30% faster now.
I have to agree with this. Every patch messes something up, it's really kind of funny at this point. I mean invisible people. Really? Invisible people. Where is the QA? Who tests this game?
The question now is what do to about such a massive exploit. Join the bandwagon and farm epic bosses with 2 ppl, or wait until they fixed the bug to play pvp again. I heard ppl in guild are already macroing the cancel delay into their g15 keyboard so they can perfect their cancel for infinite CC, personally I dont see a need for macro, is so easy to time already. But i could imagine if they were to farm epic bosses, the margin of human error after spendng a long time KD and stunning the same mob would be significant.
Confused at this point, not sure where to go with AoC, I am already very much bored with PVE in AoC, once you hit 80 there isnt much to do. And PVP now is kind of messy, is a question of who can chain stun or KD first. There is still no PVP experince, even though the PVP experince bar is already added to the inteface, taking up screen space.
(PVP experince bar added, but you cannot get pvp experince, that is so typically Funcom style of work)
Does this mean you can stun-lock, or knockdown forevah, the ape king?
That way he can't bladestorm you to death, maybe?
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the best thing about this patch is im still cancelled lol
... I was too busy switching 2H to knock down and stun people on the Barb, I didnt even notice they nerfed 1h weapon speed until someone told me. 1h are slower then 2h + polearms? AoC have some intresting rules of physic. (1.2seconds on 2H wpn, 2.0seconds on 1H wpn - They tried to nerf the 1h speed to fix the speed difference between male and female (another bug, cough... ), then they forgot to change he 2H speeds to match the new change, awesome!!)
Seriously I can't believe how many mistakes they made in this patch, is amusing to exploit the bugs for your advantage, but realisticlly it is crazy and game breaking in the long run. It has it's amusment values even though they are unintended.
To be fair, the slow weapon speed is the first part of a 2 part fix that's meant to equalize dps and animations for the male/female thing. Also, the servers are down (at least here in the EU) for a few hours to fix the invisible ppl and knockback/stun bugs.
But I'm getting to the stage where Im losing patience myself now. If it turns out that the "fix" they've figured out for the male/female attack rate problem is to nerf the male attack rate, then it's a sure sign of absolute incompetence imho. One of the few things this game has going for it in a big way is the visceral "feel" of the combat. Lots of bugs and problems I can forgive because I still have fun bashing heads, but if even this basic thing of the "feel" of the combat has been nerfed, really that's just the last straw as far as I'm concerned.
Yep this was the fix for that problem, people are just freaking out and whining for no reason
I am a super casual player (maybe 1-2 hours at a time) and while I like the game, I hate having to put up with numerous crashes, map whiteouts, and lag spikes. The game has a lot of problems, and they seem to be growing with each patch. I think like most people, I'm just waiting until Warhammer comes out. Because no way am I going back to WoW. That would be a moral defeat I could not endure.
Now they've brought down all the servers for 5 hrs during US primetime, to fix their mistakes. At least during this patch of the patch, there is no chance of something else get broken right?!? I laugh if something breaks again.
yeah im even getting a little weary of all the problems arising with this game. im always optimisstic about AoC cause i liked it a lot, but problems are killing me!!!!
and now that im getting to end game this fast im getting extremely bored. what the hell am i going to play now??
I am tempted to return to WoW, but there must be something else out there >< I played AoC in the first place to leave WoW.
I had quit MMO's completely for a year. Then AoC launched and I had been interested in it since I heard about it. When it launched I fell in love instantly but now that ive gotten to 80 and every patch does, even though its sad to say, F@#% the game up more. I cant help but feel let down... AGAIN!
I quit EQ2 cause it was to boring, VG was a nightmare, WOW is the easiest game in the universe, and everything else out there is a cookie cutter version of something else. I think its time to put my MMO days behind me for good
I feel your pain. I canceled my preorder for WAR after playing AOC for a while, I was so annoyed with the mmo genre.
honestly i think the state of things for mmo's right now is dire. there is absolute crap to choose from. wow is trash, aoc is becoming a heaping pile of trash, eq2 is total crap, and vg still is and will always be garbage! and WAR is probably going to be just as bad as the rest.
I predict that after war launches and flops like aoc is doing that the market for mmo's is going to be screwed. with all this trash floating around its no wonder why the community is dying
Why do you all assume that WAR will fail like AoC?
Anyone with any experience of AO should have known that AoC was a risky gamble. Funcom is not a good developer.
Mythic is not Funcom though, they made DAoC, which was a reasonably good MMO and they are engaged with a thorough process of beta's.. closed beta, guild beta and open beta soon..
We are are going to know the state of the game a month prior to release.. the NDA will be lifted and many of us will try out open beta.
There is every reason to believe WAR will be successful. No guarantee.. but everything looks positive.
You'd do yourself a great favor trying the 14 days free trial on LOTRO. Check its forums, that game is flooded with AOC refugees recently
, all happy.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
get into competitive pvp in guild wars and regain your rpg-pvp love....