Seeing the Flash running up a building and Hal Jordan flying was "OMFG"! But then the backgrounds and sound effects remind me so much of CoX... I'm sticking by the possibility of being a hero or villain and fighting against or alongside some of the great super icons of American comics.
Commenting on the character animation, I do hope what we've seen is just the early stages of development...
did i miss anything or did it say "YOU CAN BE YOUR OWN HERO" brings back memories. yet another lie by SOE.
yeah. In the SWG installation string of Screenshots, the last quote i think was "now its time to tell the greatest story ever told ........... yours". Atleast thats what the DC slogan reminded me of.
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I like the concept, but I wish it were Marvel. I haven’t had too much luck with MMO'S that have been based off of movies. I hope SOE can live up to DC's standards and make a solid game.
SOE looks to future as they try to forget the past. Its not going to be all that easy.
I'm not so sure. PS3 sales look set to over take the Xbox360 in number of units sold in 2009. The PS3 is in a much better position than the Xbox360 when it comes to which next gen console is the best choice to develop a console MMO for. ALL PS3's are HDMI, and have a HDD as standard, and the PS3 has more computing power. SOE looks set to take advantage of this and be the first to make real head way in to the Western console MMO market, and claim a large chunk of the largely unclaimed console MMO pie.. Consoles in the next 5 years will see a MMO explosion. I won't be the least bit surprised to see Ac-Blizzard go that rout with a MMO too. Maybe even bring their King Kong of a MMO's to consoles.
SOE screwed up alot more games then SWG. Think EQ, and Planetside. I hear people complain all the time about what SOE did to those 2 games, and SWG:NGE. Also SOE is notorious for keeping games on life support with rarely any updates or events, what good is that? And how much fun can you have in a game that the company that owns it, wont even bother keeping it updated. Also, people who havent even played these games dont like SOE just because of the bad reputation it has. Its a company's reputation that makes them either good or bad. And face it, SOE has the most shitty reputation in the MMOG industry
EDIT: also i feel pretty much like everyone else, except its a shame that its DC and not Marvel who is getting their game developed by SOE. I'm going to be at the comic-con in a little over a week, ill try to play it and report back here with some info.
Seriously,
What you think Age of Conan is huh? More button mashing isn't possible then that game. It was build solely for the XBOX360 release this autumn! Period! And we all PC players have been sacked in all the PR Hype around Age of Conan.
Almost none of the OVERHYPED and advertised features in Age of Conan work or are just not there at all! Not to mention that stats, skills and feats are still completely messed up more then a month after release!
Age of Conan is a failure. And only thing Failcom is going for, is trying to suck in people from the XBOX360 and get a load of boxsale cash there too, so they can cover their development costs a bit.
And when we are so busy with Failcom, lets talk about their customer suport (both out of game as ingame)! OH YEAH! There is NONE! So we are already done talking about that.
Lol im sensing a AOC troll in the area. YOU believed the hype and followed the game, i didnt and i enjoyed it while it lasted. Funcom is no where near as bad as SOE. And again, AOC was just released last month, i give it another month or 2 before real reviews come from the game.
And name a company worse then SOE? Well that's absolutely really simple to mention: Electronic Arts. So we are quick on that one too.
go ahead and name reasons.
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes was developed by Sigil. leaded by Brad McQuad. A so called legend in MMO history.
did i even say anything about VG?
Matrix Online was developed by Monolith (under the flag of Warner Bros. Time Warner is the biggest empire in the world atm mind you.)
yea, read the green text in the post you quoted.
Tabula Rasa developed by NCSoft and was leaded by Richard Garriott. Another so called legend in MMO history.
Tabula Rasa an okay game? After level30 it's finished. Happy grinding to level50 without new abilities, no more progress!! The whole game is just like Age of Conan. OVERHYPED and didn't deliver up to it's promisses! Altho Age of Conan was even far worse.
this is all based on your opinion.
Cheers
I give up. You guys are just pathetic. If you want to waste your life bashing SOE till your last breath. Be my guest, but die already please! It's getting way too sad.
You know the reputation MMORPG.com has in the gaming world? Even all the way over here in Europe?
Being the pathetic gaming forum full of old SWG vets and other losers with a grudge spending all day bashing companies like SOE!
That's sad! And as long as losers like you keep posting here, MMORPG.com will keep having that bad reputation!
I too miss the good old days of SWG! I still long to the sandbox style game it was back then, with one of the best communities around.
But it's over! It's gone! Everything has it's end. So had SWG, just a bit sooner then we all wanted it to be! But that's life! It's a stupid fugin game for christ sake! And you losers act like it was THE apocalypse that struk the world!
I give up. You guys are just pathetic. If you want to waste your life bashing SOE till your last breath. Be my guest, but die already please! It's getting way too sad. You know the reputation MMORPG.com has in the gaming world? Even all the way over here in Europe? Being the pathetic gaming forum full of old SWG vets and other losers with a grudge spending all day bashing companies like SOE! That's sad! And as long as losers like you keep posting here, MMORPG.com will keep having that bad reputation! I too miss the good old days of SWG! I still long to the sandbox style game it was back then, with one of the best communities around. But it's over! It's gone! Everything has it's end. So had SWG, just a bit sooner then we all wanted it to be! But that's life! It's a stupid fugin game for christ sake! And you losers act like it was THE apocalypse that struk the world! Grow up! Have a candy! And move on!
lol you do realize i wasnt ONLY talking about SWG ....... and its really kind of sad, you only made 1 reply and that was it, not much of a debate, i guess you really had no info to back your response up. although i didnt mention anything about VG or AOC in my first post i still humored you. Cya later guillermo, im sure this will be a brighter place without you.
EDIT: i didnt know you knew what all of europe thought of this site, thats quite amazing if you ask me ....
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I give up. You guys are just pathetic. If you want to waste your life bashing SOE till your last breath. Be my guest, but die already please! It's getting way too sad. You know the reputation MMORPG.com has in the gaming world? Even all the way over here in Europe? Being the pathetic gaming forum full of old SWG vets and other losers with a grudge spending all day bashing companies like SOE! That's sad! And as long as losers like you keep posting here, MMORPG.com will keep having that bad reputation! I too miss the good old days of SWG! I still long to the sandbox style game it was back then, with one of the best communities around. But it's over! It's gone! Everything has it's end. So had SWG, just a bit sooner then we all wanted it to be! But that's life! It's a stupid fugin game for christ sake! And you losers act like it was THE apocalypse that struk the world! Grow up! Have a candy! And move on!
lol you do realize i wasnt ONLY talking about SWG ....... and its really kind of sad, you only made 1 reply and that was it, not much of a debate, i guess you really had no info to back your response up. although i didnt mention anything about VG or AOC in my first post i still humored you. Cya later guillermo, im sure this will be a brighter place without you.
I quoted your first reply, doesnt mean I ignored your others ones
I have posted about AoC several times here. I have played it since Early Access and over a month in total.
I can tell you at forehand that it will take Funcom a way lot longer then just 2-3 months to fix that game.
All I can say is that I wish I had seen Funcom's anual stakeholder reports before I bought the game. Would have saved me over 100 bucks and a month wasted investment in a MMO game character.
Electronic Arts is a horrible company, but that's basically no news as it's every other big Enterprise that grows too big, becomes extremely arrogant and stopped caring for their customer.
I never said SOE is holy. They aren't the perfect company either. But let's face it! No game company is!
Blizzard was always known for being an excellent company that cared a lot for their customers back in the old days. TILL they brought out World of Warcraft that brought them unexpected fortune. Now it's all arrogance, ignorance and $$$$$ signs in their eyes and just as bad as most other Game Company out there.
EDIT: Comment on your all of europe edit: People talk ingame you know and so they do on european game and regular game forums
I am just getting tired that every time some news item, blog, chatlog, whatoever of SOE pops up here it's getting hijacked and jumped at by all the old SWG vets that still hold their eternal grudge against SOE.
I give up. You guys are just pathetic. If you want to waste your life bashing SOE till your last breath. Be my guest, but die already please! It's getting way too sad. You know the reputation MMORPG.com has in the gaming world? Even all the way over here in Europe? Being the pathetic gaming forum full of old SWG vets and other losers with a grudge spending all day bashing companies like SOE! That's sad! And as long as losers like you keep posting here, MMORPG.com will keep having that bad reputation! I too miss the good old days of SWG! I still long to the sandbox style game it was back then, with one of the best communities around. But it's over! It's gone! Everything has it's end. So had SWG, just a bit sooner then we all wanted it to be! But that's life! It's a stupid fugin game for christ sake! And you losers act like it was THE apocalypse that struk the world! Grow up! Have a candy! And move on!
lol you do realize i wasnt ONLY talking about SWG ....... and its really kind of sad, you only made 1 reply and that was it, not much of a debate, i guess you really had no info to back your response up. although i didnt mention anything about VG or AOC in my first post i still humored you. Cya later guillermo, im sure this will be a brighter place without you.
I quoted your first reply, doesnt mean I ignored your others ones I have posted about AoC several times here. I have played it since Early Access and over a month in total. I can tell you at forehand that it will take Funcom a way lot longer then just 2-3 months to fix that game. All I can say is that I wish I had seen Funcom's anual stakeholder reports before I bought the game. Would have saved me over 100 bucks and a month wasted investment in a MMO game character. Electronic Arts is a horrible company, but that's basically no news as it's every other big Enterprise that grows too big, becomes extremely arrogant and stopped caring for their customer. I never said SOE is holy. They aren't the perfect company either. But let's face it! No game company is! Blizzard was always known for being an excellent company that cared a lot for their customers back in the old days. TILL they brought out World of Warcraft that brought them unexpected fortune. Now it's all arrogance, ignorance and $$$$$ signs in their eyes and just as bad as most other Game Company out there. EDIT: Comment on your all of europe edit: People talk ingame you know and so they do on european game and regular game forums I am just getting tired that every time some news item, blog, chatlog, whatoever of SOE pops up here it's getting hijacked and jumped at by all the old SWG vets that still hold their eternal grudge against SOE. It's getting old and goddarn tiresome!!
I bet it must be tiresome indeed if you have to go up against all the disgruntled ex-SoE players every time
edit : About AoC, sure the game has problems and was not finished, so if you don't like it, don't play it. However, so far they have not screwed people over by letting people play for 2 years and then totally changing the game beyond recognition.
Either way, I just want to warn people, if they want to invest in a game that may get changed beyond recognition in a hartbeat, they are free to do so.
I personally wont take the risk.
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Originally posted by grimfall Originally posted by sigamon SOE ruins everything it touches, its the exact opposite of the midus touch. ill never play anything by them again.
Except, you know, having the 2nd most succesful western MMO ever.
And what MMO would that be? And how would you measure success? Do you mean EQ? Well at some point that game was indeed succesful. ( 550k ), but that number steadily dropped when more competition surfaced, and now is at 175k, not bad.
However if you look at EvE Online, they come from 25k and currently have around 240k subs, so I would say that EvE Online is more successful or at least alot more future proof then EQ.
So if I would have to choose where to invest my time in, I would choose EvE Online.
And if you look at the current subs, then EvE Online is the second most successful western MMORPG ( besides Dofus ), and perhaps AoC, because I think their subs are still around 300k or maybe even higher.
Getting subscribers is not so hard, keeping them is what it is all about.
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As a big superhero fan, I'm a little surprised at my utter lack of interest in this project. Maybe it's the console aspect, or maybe it's the involvement of SOE. Maybe because I prefer Marvel (though I certainly don't dislike DC). Probably a combination of all the above.
Console means dumbed down fake MMO - period, end of story. Add in SoE and it is easy to see why nobody cares.
I think this game is going to have big problems because SOE and DC aren't going to collaborate well. SOE is a big company and big companies, when involving themselves in a project, have a tendency to insist on getting their way. But DC owns the IP for the setting and most likely won't like it if SOE makes demands DC thinks are unreasonable. What happens when the DC universe changes like they do another reboot or have another "mega-crossover involving everyone down to Luthor's 3rd cousin" saga? Will SOE take that into account or join in on this mammoth task of having the game keep up with the comic?
We have two opposing forces here. On one hand there's SOE that wants to make a game people will buy and subscribe to. On the other there is DC who wants to preserve their IP for continued comic sales. Unless one of the two rolls over and accepts the other's demands, I predict there will be some slammed board room doors and this game will suffer the same fate as Marvel Online. I don't want to bash anyone, but these are the realities of business.
Champions Online, however, will be better because Cryptic bought the IP for the Champions setting from Hero Games. These are two smaller companies who realize they have to play nice to make a profitable product. More importantly the next edition Champions and the Hero system will wipe the slate clean and will start from scratch. It won't have 70+ years of history to get right. If they decide to move Millennium City from the ruins of Detroit after Dr.Destroyer's attack to Boulder, CO after some supervillain with a sick sense of humor dropped an asteroid on it, Cryptic can do that.
What will happen to DCO if the comic has Darkside devastating half of Metrolopus?
Looks like there's good potential in this one. The video looks like the game isn't polished yet (obviously) and if actual combat is like what is seen in the video then it will be a nice change from other mmo's. Looking forward to trying this one out!
I think that it was a stroke of genius to have Jim Lee to the presentation instead of Smed. The further SOE can keep him off the soapbox for this MMO the better chance that its marketing will suceed.
i hope we can build our own heroes in this, like COX but that will probably change knowing SOE. I hope they do a good job and hope they dont ruin it like they did with SWG.
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Seeing the Flash running up a building and Hal Jordan flying was "OMFG"! But then the backgrounds and sound effects remind me so much of CoX... I'm sticking by the possibility of being a hero or villain and fighting against or alongside some of the great super icons of American comics.
Commenting on the character animation, I do hope what we've seen is just the early stages of development...
The difference between you and a broken record is that a one point the broken record was good to listen to.
Except, you know, having the 2nd most succesful western MMO ever.
did i miss anything or did it say "YOU CAN BE YOUR OWN HERO" brings back memories. yet another lie by SOE.
yeah. In the SWG installation string of Screenshots, the last quote i think was "now its time to tell the greatest story ever told ........... yours". Atleast thats what the DC slogan reminded me of.
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I like the concept, but I wish it were Marvel. I haven’t had too much luck with MMO'S that have been based off of movies. I hope SOE can live up to DC's standards and make a solid game.
I'm not so sure. PS3 sales look set to over take the Xbox360 in number of units sold in 2009. The PS3 is in a much better position than the Xbox360 when it comes to which next gen console is the best choice to develop a console MMO for. ALL PS3's are HDMI, and have a HDD as standard, and the PS3 has more computing power. SOE looks set to take advantage of this and be the first to make real head way in to the Western console MMO market, and claim a large chunk of the largely unclaimed console MMO pie.. Consoles in the next 5 years will see a MMO explosion. I won't be the least bit surprised to see Ac-Blizzard go that rout with a MMO too. Maybe even bring their King Kong of a MMO's to consoles.
Seriously,
What you think Age of Conan is huh? More button mashing isn't possible then that game. It was build solely for the XBOX360 release this autumn! Period! And we all PC players have been sacked in all the PR Hype around Age of Conan.
Almost none of the OVERHYPED and advertised features in Age of Conan work or are just not there at all! Not to mention that stats, skills and feats are still completely messed up more then a month after release!
Age of Conan is a failure. And only thing Failcom is going for, is trying to suck in people from the XBOX360 and get a load of boxsale cash there too, so they can cover their development costs a bit.
And when we are so busy with Failcom, lets talk about their customer suport (both out of game as ingame)! OH YEAH! There is NONE! So we are already done talking about that.
Lol im sensing a AOC troll in the area. YOU believed the hype and followed the game, i didnt and i enjoyed it while it lasted. Funcom is no where near as bad as SOE. And again, AOC was just released last month, i give it another month or 2 before real reviews come from the game.
And name a company worse then SOE? Well that's absolutely really simple to mention: Electronic Arts. So we are quick on that one too.
go ahead and name reasons.
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes was developed by Sigil. leaded by Brad McQuad. A so called legend in MMO history.
did i even say anything about VG?
Matrix Online was developed by Monolith (under the flag of Warner Bros. Time Warner is the biggest empire in the world atm mind you.)
yea, read the green text in the post you quoted.
Tabula Rasa developed by NCSoft and was leaded by Richard Garriott. Another so called legend in MMO history.
Tabula Rasa an okay game? After level30 it's finished. Happy grinding to level50 without new abilities, no more progress!! The whole game is just like Age of Conan. OVERHYPED and didn't deliver up to it's promisses! Altho Age of Conan was even far worse.
this is all based on your opinion.
Cheers
I give up. You guys are just pathetic. If you want to waste your life bashing SOE till your last breath. Be my guest, but die already please! It's getting way too sad.
You know the reputation MMORPG.com has in the gaming world? Even all the way over here in Europe?
Being the pathetic gaming forum full of old SWG vets and other losers with a grudge spending all day bashing companies like SOE!
That's sad! And as long as losers like you keep posting here, MMORPG.com will keep having that bad reputation!
I too miss the good old days of SWG! I still long to the sandbox style game it was back then, with one of the best communities around.
But it's over! It's gone! Everything has it's end. So had SWG, just a bit sooner then we all wanted it to be! But that's life! It's a stupid fugin game for christ sake! And you losers act like it was THE apocalypse that struk the world!
Grow up! Have a candy! And move on!
lol you do realize i wasnt ONLY talking about SWG ....... and its really kind of sad, you only made 1 reply and that was it, not much of a debate, i guess you really had no info to back your response up. although i didnt mention anything about VG or AOC in my first post i still humored you. Cya later guillermo, im sure this will be a brighter place without you.
EDIT: i didnt know you knew what all of europe thought of this site, thats quite amazing if you ask me ....
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Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
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lol you do realize i wasnt ONLY talking about SWG ....... and its really kind of sad, you only made 1 reply and that was it, not much of a debate, i guess you really had no info to back your response up. although i didnt mention anything about VG or AOC in my first post i still humored you. Cya later guillermo, im sure this will be a brighter place without you.
I quoted your first reply, doesnt mean I ignored your others ones
I have posted about AoC several times here. I have played it since Early Access and over a month in total.
I can tell you at forehand that it will take Funcom a way lot longer then just 2-3 months to fix that game.
All I can say is that I wish I had seen Funcom's anual stakeholder reports before I bought the game. Would have saved me over 100 bucks and a month wasted investment in a MMO game character.
Electronic Arts is a horrible company, but that's basically no news as it's every other big Enterprise that grows too big, becomes extremely arrogant and stopped caring for their customer.
I never said SOE is holy. They aren't the perfect company either. But let's face it! No game company is!
Blizzard was always known for being an excellent company that cared a lot for their customers back in the old days. TILL they brought out World of Warcraft that brought them unexpected fortune. Now it's all arrogance, ignorance and $$$$$ signs in their eyes and just as bad as most other Game Company out there.
EDIT: Comment on your all of europe edit: People talk ingame you know and so they do on european game and regular game forums
I am just getting tired that every time some news item, blog, chatlog, whatoever of SOE pops up here it's getting hijacked and jumped at by all the old SWG vets that still hold their eternal grudge against SOE.
It's getting old and goddarn tiresome!!
I bet it must be tiresome indeed if you have to go up against all the disgruntled ex-SoE players every time
edit : About AoC, sure the game has problems and was not finished, so if you don't like it, don't play it. However, so far they have not screwed people over by letting people play for 2 years and then totally changing the game beyond recognition.
Either way, I just want to warn people, if they want to invest in a game that may get changed beyond recognition in a hartbeat, they are free to do so.
I personally wont take the risk.
Greetz
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Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
Except, you know, having the 2nd most succesful western MMO ever.
And what MMO would that be? And how would you measure success?
Do you mean EQ? Well at some point that game was indeed succesful. ( 550k ), but that number steadily dropped when more competition surfaced, and now is at 175k, not bad.
However if you look at EvE Online, they come from 25k and currently have around 240k subs, so I would say that EvE Online is more successful or at least alot more future proof then EQ.
So if I would have to choose where to invest my time in, I would choose EvE Online.
And if you look at the current subs, then EvE Online is the second most successful western MMORPG ( besides Dofus ), and perhaps AoC, because I think their subs are still around 300k or maybe even higher.
Getting subscribers is not so hard, keeping them is what it is all about.
Greetz
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Console means dumbed down fake MMO - period, end of story. Add in SoE and it is easy to see why nobody cares.
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I think this game is going to have big problems because SOE and DC aren't going to collaborate well. SOE is a big company and big companies, when involving themselves in a project, have a tendency to insist on getting their way. But DC owns the IP for the setting and most likely won't like it if SOE makes demands DC thinks are unreasonable. What happens when the DC universe changes like they do another reboot or have another "mega-crossover involving everyone down to Luthor's 3rd cousin" saga? Will SOE take that into account or join in on this mammoth task of having the game keep up with the comic?
We have two opposing forces here. On one hand there's SOE that wants to make a game people will buy and subscribe to. On the other there is DC who wants to preserve their IP for continued comic sales. Unless one of the two rolls over and accepts the other's demands, I predict there will be some slammed board room doors and this game will suffer the same fate as Marvel Online. I don't want to bash anyone, but these are the realities of business.
Champions Online, however, will be better because Cryptic bought the IP for the Champions setting from Hero Games. These are two smaller companies who realize they have to play nice to make a profitable product. More importantly the next edition Champions and the Hero system will wipe the slate clean and will start from scratch. It won't have 70+ years of history to get right. If they decide to move Millennium City from the ruins of Detroit after Dr.Destroyer's attack to Boulder, CO after some supervillain with a sick sense of humor dropped an asteroid on it, Cryptic can do that.
What will happen to DCO if the comic has Darkside devastating half of Metrolopus?
Looks like there's good potential in this one. The video looks like the game isn't polished yet (obviously) and if actual combat is like what is seen in the video then it will be a nice change from other mmo's. Looking forward to trying this one out!
I think that it was a stroke of genius to have Jim Lee to the presentation instead of Smed. The further SOE can keep him off the soapbox for this MMO the better chance that its marketing will suceed.
Keep Smed in box with a case of Rogaine,.
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i hope we can build our own heroes in this, like COX but that will probably change knowing SOE. I hope they do a good job and hope they dont ruin it like they did with SWG.