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Why aren't we discussing this game?

dalevi11dalevi11 Member Posts: 53

Why hasn't there been a post here yet?

The latest video, posted right here on MMORPG.COM promises the next great story in the DC universe is yours to grab, create, imagine. You can live in the shadow of giants, and matter.

So, chime in...when was the last time you heard this type of statement? Who did you hear it from? Do you trust them to follow through.

D.C., you could have done better, but then again, Smallville and what you would like to call the "Dark Knight" is the only clue you have had in 20 years.

BTW, The "Dark Knight" should have been a BB.

I love SOE...

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  • RahyuhtRahyuht Member Posts: 47

    We don't talk about It because its not going to happen.The game was cancelled & now Cryptic is focusing on (Champions Online)

    DC Universe (Cancelled)

    (Edited) Ok What the?Just checked the website.Looks like its still going?Im confused now.Will it come out?If so will would be godly.I left my old post in the edit to show i mouthed off anyways.Makes me ponder though

  • thenetavengethenetavenge Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by Rahyuht


    We don't talk about It because its not going to happen.The game was cancelled & now Cryptic is focusing on (Champions Online)
    DC Universe (Cancelled)



     

    Um, ya no...

    That was Marvel Online, not DC...

  • jiveturkey12jiveturkey12 Member CommonPosts: 1,262
    Originally posted by Rahyuht


    We don't talk about It because its not going to happen.The game was cancelled & now Cryptic is focusing on (Champions Online)
    DC Universe (Cancelled)

     

    lol that was the marvel game my friend not DC.

     

    -Jive

  • thenetavengethenetavenge Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by dalevi11


    Why hasn't there been a post here yet?
    The latest video, posted right here on MMORPG.COM promises the next great story in the DC universe is yours to grab, create, imagine. You can live in the shadow of giants, and matter.
    So, chime in...when was the last time you heard this type of statement? Who did you hear it from? Do you trust them to follow through.
    D.C., you could have done better, but then again, Smallville and what you would like to call the "Dark Knight" is the only clue you have had in 20 years.
    BTW, The "Dark Knight" should have been a BB.
    I love SOE...



     

    #1) Because Sony is doing it.

    #2) Because the NGE was the 'testbed' for the DC Comics concepts and destroyed SWG.

    #3) Because the development rollover at DC Comics has been horrible and if there is any consistency or design 'goal' left it would be a miracle.

    #4) All of the Above

  • RahyuhtRahyuht Member Posts: 47

    Oh yeah lol. didnt notice DC & Marvel are differnt games.My bad.Looks good I now do  wonder why we are not talking about it.Hmmmm......

  • TheHavokTheHavok Member UncommonPosts: 2,423

    The DC online footage looks....bad.  That is my opinion of course, but it reminds me of a super nintendo game called "The Tick".  I have much higher hopes for Champions Online.

  • RahyuhtRahyuht Member Posts: 47

    SOE had little to do with the NGE.Is was Arts/LA

  • jiveturkey12jiveturkey12 Member CommonPosts: 1,262
    Originally posted by thenetavenge

    Originally posted by dalevi11


    Why hasn't there been a post here yet?
    The latest video, posted right here on MMORPG.COM promises the next great story in the DC universe is yours to grab, create, imagine. You can live in the shadow of giants, and matter.
    So, chime in...when was the last time you heard this type of statement? Who did you hear it from? Do you trust them to follow through.
    D.C., you could have done better, but then again, Smallville and what you would like to call the "Dark Knight" is the only clue you have had in 20 years.
    BTW, The "Dark Knight" should have been a BB.
    I love SOE...



     

    #1) Because Sony is doing it.

    #2) Because the NGE was the 'testbed' for the DC Comics concepts and destroyed SWG.

    #3) Because the development rollover at DC Comics has been horrible and if there is any consistency or design 'goal' left it would be a miracle.

    #4) All of the Above

     

    Not only is your first reason very shallow, but I bet you have absolutely no proof linking the NGE and DC universe, and I doubt you really know about their company goals, they appear to be missing. until now there has been little to no info on the game, even still we dont know alot

  • RahyuhtRahyuht Member Posts: 47

    Agreed

  • ThaniusThanius Member Posts: 15
    I find it sad how everyone rates a game not based on the game but instead on who is publishing it...and all before they try the game. I don't agree with everything SOE has done but they are still my favorite MMO developers. And, this looks like it is going to be better than any other of their MMOs....It looks like it will be better than any of the Cryptic Studio games as well.

     

    This game will be great I am sure.
  • dalevi11dalevi11 Member Posts: 53
    Originally posted by Thanius


    I find it sad how everyone rates a game not based on the game but instead on who is publishing it...and all before they try the game. I don't agree with everything SOE has done but they are still my favorite MMO developers. And, this looks like it is going to be better than any other of their MMOs....It looks like it will be better than any of the Cryptic Studio games as well.
     
    This game will be great I am sure.

     

    And. er. Cough.

    Right! Thankius (turn head, cough).

    Your experience with SOE is what? Might I ask?

    I am having a hard time pin-pointing a game SOE has done correctly since EQ...Please enlighten.

    EQ: Made some change, some time, lost it's grip.

    EQ2: Crap, that's where our EQ players went AND it was so bad at launch WoW kicked us.

    MxO: Opps. hasn't changed, still sucks.

    Vanguard: It sucked when we (cough) bought it.

    Planet Side: Hold on, this didn't suck! Our lowest sub'd original game.

    DC Online/007xOnline? Who cares? They haven't done anything but milk and screw customers since EQ. Trust them to make a decent game? Who knows. If it remains good over 365 days, I'll be shocked.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by Thanius


    I find it sad how everyone rates a game not based on the game but instead on who is publishing it...and all before they try the game. I don't agree with everything SOE has done but they are still my favorite MMO developers. And, this looks like it is going to be better than any other of their MMOs....It looks like it will be better than any of the Cryptic Studio games as well.
     
    This game will be great I am sure.

     

    People rate the game based on the companies past history.   Barring an actual game in hand to review, there is no stronger indicator than a long track record of past actions.  In this case the lies, mismanagement and failures of SOE far outweight any actual success they have had.  The one good thing they do is put lipstick on a pig.  I remember showing that damned EQ2 video to my gaming circle and we all decided to preorder EQ2 instead of WoW.  They do make good promotional material when it is in their best interest, but I can't say the same for their games.

     

    When SOE does something to prove they wont just keep repeating history then it will be time to give them benefit of the doubt, but until then expecting anything except the same old is blind optimism.

  • themiltonthemilton Member Posts: 353

    BTW, The "Dark Knight" should have been a BB.



     

    "BB"?  Batman Beyond?

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  • themiltonthemilton Member Posts: 353

     Because it's not on the Forums list?

     

    Unless I've overlooked it, it's not under the currently released or under the In Development (where it should be) sections.  Are the MMORPG forum mods saying it's not a MMORPG?

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  • noxxnoxx Member UncommonPosts: 120

    because sony has touched it.....................................

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by dalevi11

    Originally posted by Thanius


    I find it sad how everyone rates a game not based on the game but instead on who is publishing it...and all before they try the game. I don't agree with everything SOE has done but they are still my favorite MMO developers. And, this looks like it is going to be better than any other of their MMOs....It looks like it will be better than any of the Cryptic Studio games as well.
     
    This game will be great I am sure.

     

    And. er. Cough.

    Right! Thankius (turn head, cough).

    Your experience with SOE is what? Might I ask?

    I am having a hard time pin-pointing a game SOE has done correctly since EQ...Please enlighten.

    EQ: Made some change, some time, lost it's grip.

    EQ2: Crap, that's where our EQ players went AND it was so bad at launch WoW kicked us.

    MxO: Opps. hasn't changed, still sucks.

    Vanguard: It sucked when we (cough) bought it.

    Planet Side: Hold on, this didn't suck! Our lowest sub'd original game.

    DC Online/007xOnline? Who cares? They haven't done anything but milk and screw customers since EQ. Trust them to make a decent game? Who knows. If it remains good over 365 days, I'll be shocked.



     

    I suggest you get some quality detection because you seem to lack it. Everquest 1 is still a good game and so is Everquest 2. EQ2 and its expansions have all been received very well.

    I haven't played MXO at release, but I have played it after SOE took over and I had a good time. I don't know the current state of Vanguard from what I have heard the changes SOE has made to Vanguard have been for the better.

    Who cares about DC Universe/ The Agency? For one, I do. At least they're doing something new and different from the mmo pack.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by themilton


     Because it's not on the Forums list? 
    Unless I've overlooked it, it's not under the currently released or under the In Development (where it should be) sections.  Are the MMORPG forum mods saying it's not a MMORPG?

    I agree, its puzzling

    even Darkfall is on the "quick list" for games in development

  • CyberWizCyberWiz Member UncommonPosts: 914

    I won't touch it because it is from SOE.

    And Lucas Arts is indeed to blame for SWG CU and NGE, but if SOE had gotten their act together and told LA the right way to do it ( fix bugs, add content ) then LA would have agreed.

    LA relied on the experts, and ofcourse put alot of pressure on the devs because WoW was doing so well.

    Either way SOE ruined my investment in the game, ruined the friendships I made and I do not want to take the risk of getting into a game again, just to have it totally changed into something else with devs telling me I better leave so I can get replaced.


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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by CyberWiz


    I won't touch it because it is from SOE.
    And Lucas Arts is indeed to blame for SWG CU and NGE, but if SOE had gotten their act together and told LA the right way to do it ( fix bugs, add content ) then LA would have agreed.
    LA relied on the experts, and ofcourse put alot of pressure on the devs because WoW was doing so well.
    Either way SOE ruined my investment in the game, ruined the friendships I made and I do not want to take the risk of getting into a game again, just to have it totally changed into something else with devs telling me I better leave so I can get replaced.


    greetz



     

    Good to see you have no problem getting over events that happened over 2 years ago in a video game.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by Gameloading 


     
    Good to see you have no problem getting over events that happened over 2 years ago in a video game.

     

    What does 2 years have to do with anything?

    The company has a long history of releasing unfinished products and then yanking the rug out from under their customers feet with broad sweeping changes.  Even the games that they only publish have been miserable turds. 

    SOE needs to do something to prove they have changed.  Simply letting time pass is no indication that SOE is worth giving another chance to.

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by Gameloading 


     
    Good to see you have no problem getting over events that happened over 2 years ago in a video game.

     

    What does 2 years have to do with anything?

    The company has a long history of releasing unfinished products and then yanking the rug out from under their customers feet with broad sweeping changes.  Even the games that they only publish have been miserable turds. 

    SOE needs to do something to prove they have changed.  Simply letting time pass is no indication that SOE is worth giving another chance to.



     

    When a game is finished is highly debatable. An MMO is never truly finished and there will always be bugs and glitches. There has never been an MMO that was 100% completed at launch and there never will be.

    Ofcourse a game changes over time, this happens with every game. So far most changes SOE has made to their games (MxO, EQ2, Vanguard) have received positive reactions from their playerbase. It's only SWG that went completely wrong and apparantly SWG crybabies just can't get over it.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194

    To answer the title question:



    CoH+CoV+DCuniverse+ChampionsOnline= 3 Super Hero games too many.



    CoH was a nice game, but because it was based on the super hero theme, it was a bit limited, and it has never been a blockbuster (although it did well).



    I don't see how DCU can do any better, really don't see what more can it offerrs compared to CoH.........plus it is developed by SoE, which doesn't help.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    I dont understand why some people think that 3 superhero mmos is too many

     

    whats the limit for fantasy mmos ?   6?

    Scifi ?   4?

     

    I dont know about you but I tire of any mmo after awhile

    - its nice to have options to play other games

     

     

     

  • mpmg42mpmg42 Member Posts: 5









    When watching the teaser trailer one thing really popped out at me...and I am paraphrasing it so it might be a bit off.  The tag line basically ends with "the next legend is...you".  This reminds me too much of SWG's advertisement a few years ago basically "greatest story ever told...yours".  I am not knocking the game; I am actually looking forward to trying it out, just making an observation about their marketing scheme.



     

     

  • TzimiscechiTzimiscechi Member Posts: 230

    The latest video, posted right here on MMORPG.COM promises the next great story in the DC universe is yours to grab, create, imagine. You can live in the shadow of giants, and matter.

    With you so far...

    So, chime in...when was the last time you heard this type of statement? Who did you hear it from? Do you trust them to follow through.

    Last time I heard it it came from SOE. I was playing SWG at the time - they promised all kinds of revamps and new content. I mistakenly believed them.

    But after a few years, they decided the game wasn't "Star Warsy" enough and that gamers didn't like "playing in the shadows of giants".

    So they dumbed down the game and made everybody a nobody.

    I love SOE...

    SOE's love tends to hurt real bad.....

     

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