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RvR similar to old WoW's AV?
kazson
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not a flame, and im not talking about the current AV the old school one that lasted for days at a time...
is that basically what RvR will be?
where you got a mass of people scared to push forward while range people try to pick off who they can?
meh?
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Nope, next question.
Not at all. Rather you'll get two competing armies smashing into over and over and over and over.
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hmm.. might be nice. I loved old AV where you had... a battle, not a rush past the other team. 35v35 with 5 people either trying to sneak past or getting the ram riders ready or summoning frosty.
I loved old AV, but i'm not in beta so I can't say how it all works out, but I sure wouldn't mind if we had a few nice vallys to funnel the armies into each other like AV.
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how does War acheive this? dont be so vauge...
usually when you throw 40 people on 1 side and 40 on another they usually just stand there with people too scared to run in and die...and a few range dps and mages trying to sneak in kills...or hoping to find a single enemy and try to swarm him
it'll sort of be like it...only much bigger and with a point.
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That will happen some with heavy PUG vs PUG situations. I could go into details but the NDA and all. It happens more at lower tiers of RvR than higher tiers, I'll say that much.
http://guilds.camelotherald.com/realms/index.php?server=Lancelot
check out 'hibernia' on the map taking over places to gain benefits for your side is basically the point.
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That will happen some with heavy PUG vs PUG situations. I could go into details but the NDA and all. It happens more at lower tiers of RvR than higher tiers, I'll say that much.
thanks for the answer !
Shouldnt be anything like the old or new AV, Simply because you cant rush passed anyone because you cannot run through them
Well, I'm sure that some people will play like that, but no...there's going to be alot of head-on, in your face melee fighting.
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Nop its similar to Dark Age Of Camelots RvR system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrD2JtNpUw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p0Bg4PHWwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouw6Dvv196M&feature=related
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Thankfully no....since control over Points & Keeps actually matter plus they said the death penalty is pretty light so you WONT be afraid to go in and die. The game is pretty much about throwing yourself in and dying in a glorious fantastic explosion of fighting. Pretty much if you want to Siege & finish certain gear sets you have to Surge forward and fight like hell.
They've been pretty up front they want you to fight and not be afraid to die. There is a penalty but from the way they've spoken about it publically its mostly just the time it takes to get back into the fray.
I doubt battles will last for days on some things keeps could take multiple tries they're pretty damn big if you've ever seen the pictures.
It might be more like the old tarren mill/southshore clashes before the bg's were introduced.
The very first of those I participated in lasted 5 hours, awesome stuff.
If open rvr clashes get to anything like that the game will rock.
AV is naked DAoC RvR
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I have to admit that was the only thing about WoW that I miss...the moment BG's came around raids on those areas ended. I mean sure we got alot of rez sickness's and gear wear but it was fun. Blizz made a big mistake in not figuring out how to properly introduce worthy PvP to their game. I mean its frigging Warcraft ...and instead they made it Peacecraft with some tournaments.
Ill let you figure out the rest uk.youtube.com/watch
Ill let you figure out the rest uk.youtube.com/watch
Ugh, that Vid is a horrible representation of DaoC battles, where is the actual keep seige? the rams, the ballistae, the catapults and Trebs? The roaming gank squads? I can't remember the last time that groups stood around like that and had no real CC. That was just way too scripted and so NOT like DaoC RvR.
Nothing like it at all OP. Check out the many fan forums and websites for info on the game. You have lots to learn and many places available to help you.
I recommend http://www.only-war.com
Great forums, friendly and informative.
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I have to admit that was the only thing about WoW that I miss...the moment BG's came around raids on those areas ended. I mean sure we got alot of rez sickness's and gear wear but it was fun. Blizz made a big mistake in not figuring out how to properly introduce worthy PvP to their game. I mean its frigging Warcraft ...and instead they made it Peacecraft with some tournaments.
I agree with this, hence the reason me and my friends been dying for WAR to come out. Will be nice to have PVP with substance again.
Ill let you figure out the rest uk.youtube.com/watch
Ugh, that Vid is a horrible representation of DaoC battles, where is the actual keep seige? the rams, the ballistae, the catapults and Trebs? The roaming gank squads? I can't remember the last time that groups stood around like that and had no real CC. That was just way too scripted and so NOT like DaoC RvR.
Yeah i agree, was just a random vid but lets try this Alb zerg.
No seige ,rams ballistae etc but a good vid of a good zerg.
www.youtube.com/watch
how does War acheive this? dont be so vauge...
usually when you throw 40 people on 1 side and 40 on another they usually just stand there with people too scared to run in and die...and a few range dps and mages trying to sneak in kills...or hoping to find a single enemy and try to swarm him
I'm a bit late for this thread, but here's just a thought...
Old AV was awesome but it was configured linearly - it is basically one loong valley with a bunch of chokepoints on the way. With this terrain configuration it is obvious you'll get a lot of stalemates with zergs pushing at each other.
On the other hand, the bit in the middle with the graveyard on the hill, two routes in, a bridge and a large plain beneath gave a lot of room for manoeuvre and tactical play. I imagine a "typical" WAR open world battlefield will "feel" similar to this - massive battles but with quite enough room for good tactics to get rewarded. In fact since the T4 RvR zones aren't longish but rather squareish I expect there'll be plenty of strategic play as well.
To clarify:
RvR in Daoc means open RvR
RvR in WAR means PVE and open RvR with a emphasis on instance/scenarios that are the most rewarding. Also open RvR siege engines in WAR use a token and pad system, buy a token find a pad and presto siege engine. No crafting or moving of siege engines off the pads.
-This info was all from pod casts and from thier main website.
If you want something like Daoc go play Daoc.
Right and wrong there is no longer bg/instances being more rewarding. This has been answered many times.
Right and wrong there is no longer bg/instances being more rewarding. This has been answered many times.
Many times? No it hasn't. When did they say that? Its only been said that they wanted to bring the value of open pvp in line with scenarios but scenarios will still be more rewarding. Got a link?
Right and wrong there is no longer bg/instances being more rewarding. This has been answered many times.
Many times? No it hasn't. When did they say that? Its only been said that they wanted to bring the value of open pvp in line with scenarios but scenarios will still be more rewarding. Got a link?
you need to look around more, iv seen it mentioned many of times because everyone has been concerned about it.