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  • FastTxFastTx Member UncommonPosts: 756

    Phoenix is about the best your going to get as far as legit players. Hindemith repelled botters and cheaters by rising against them longer than any other server and Phoenix is Hindemith + Gustin combined. Neither of these servers were known for excessive cheaters.There are many cheaters however.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by FastTx


    Phoenix is about the best your going to get as far as legit players. Hindemith repelled botters and cheaters by rising against them longer than any other server and Phoenix is Hindemith + Gustin combined. Neither of these servers were known for excessive cheaters.There are many cheaters however.

     

    What are you, the Lineage 2 chronicler?

    Resistance against the botters was broken when NCSoft changed the drop rules.

    Some old pics from a very long time ago, It was a good fight n those days and very profitable.

    My motto was "kill the bots and take their shit"

     

     

     

  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005
    Originally posted by FastTx


    Phoenix is about the best your going to get as far as legit players. Hindemith repelled botters and cheaters by rising against them longer than any other server and Phoenix is Hindemith + Gustin combined. Neither of these servers were known for excessive cheaters.There are many cheaters however.

     

    You are so wrong ,  I have played on Gustin from OB to C2 before changing to Teon and it was exactly the same thing bots everywhere the live player/bot ratio is the same, the only difference is servers like Gustin and Hindemith are dead, the people that play are the old alliances/clans , and they have been dominating those servers for the past 1.5 years. There might be some friction with the merge and some pvp going on, but the amount of players is no where near enough , choosing to play on a server other than Euro and/or Bartz just means your gonna end up in an empty server which is dominated completely by a small group of people.

    Dont take my word for it, there is a simple test, create a human character on Teon, Bartz, Franz, and Phoenix and make your way to Giran Castle Town, and you can see the difference between well populated servers and an empty one.

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  • Pappy55Pappy55 Member Posts: 45
    Originally posted by Torak

    Originally posted by FastTx


    Phoenix is about the best your going to get as far as legit players. Hindemith repelled botters and cheaters by rising against them longer than any other server and Phoenix is Hindemith + Gustin combined. Neither of these servers were known for excessive cheaters.There are many cheaters however.

     

    What are you, the Lineage 2 chronicler?

    Resistance against the botters was broken when NCSoft changed the drop rules.

    Some old pics from a very long time ago, It was a good fight n those days and very profitable.

    My motto was "kill the bots and take their shit"

     

     

     



     

    Dont your name go red if you do that flagging you as a PKiller?

  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005

    Yes, but there are so many ways to grief farmers its like a culture that was formed along the years, you can for instance stun the healer, this will flag you but you wont go red as stun usually dont have enough power to kill a player unless your much higher lvl, you can "train" them by body pulling alot of mobs who are social with the ones they are killing once your near them they will cause more threat by hitting the social ones.

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by Pappy55

    Originally posted by Torak

    Originally posted by FastTx


    Phoenix is about the best your going to get as far as legit players. Hindemith repelled botters and cheaters by rising against them longer than any other server and Phoenix is Hindemith + Gustin combined. Neither of these servers were known for excessive cheaters.There are many cheaters however.

     

    What are you, the Lineage 2 chronicler?

    Resistance against the botters was broken when NCSoft changed the drop rules.

    Some old pics from a very long time ago, It was a good fight n those days and very profitable.

    My motto was "kill the bots and take their shit"

     



     

    Dont your name go red if you do that flagging you as a PKiller?

    I trained all of those.

     

    I wish L2 had the WoW emote for "train".

     

  • MmoSwanMmoSwan Member Posts: 134


    Originally posted by rav3n2

    I play on Teon and I do think there was a bit of an exxageration, sure there are bots, every server has bots, you wont find a single "legit" server, Teon is usually targeted because it has the highest population hence is bound to have more ppl botting.


    Like I said, I wouldn't really care about pve bots if it still was possible to find a levelling spot for small groups (IOP and BS are taken by 100s of AFK bots). What I really care about is that the two major allies X and ITT both use cheats and exploits in pvp on a regular basis and that NcSoft does not take any visible actions. I think I posted a link somewhere where you can watch it in a movie if you think I am talking about something that doesn't exist.


    As far as ruining the economy, well the economy is pretty much "Set" in L2, we wont see any major changes in the near future like C2-C5 when farmers inflated the prices massively, high end equipment and materials are acquired through clan efforts and require coordination and organization that farmers simply dont have. Ill go as far as saying that some high end equipment as it is, unless you are part of a good clan/alliance you wont see it for many months to come no matter how many billions of adena you farm/buy illegally.

    I am not sure if ppl like Defo (you know who that is if you play on Teon) that ebayed his new account including WM10 augmentation AM, scammed Valakas necklace ($1500+ alone at current adena prices) for several thousands of $$$ for instant hero status will have any problems with that.

    As for the difficulty, I am not sure why farmers would lack the organisation. They have been doing the major Raid Bosses since forever even though they stopped lately since they can't beat the major cheater and exploiter allies anymore so just farm smaller bosses. In any case they should be able to get everything else done like a normal clan, too.

    Not to mention that quite a few of the "top players" on Teon are farmers, but not chinese. Running 128 accounts at once gives you some nice extra income if you eg. live in a eastern country with low life costs. You think that's not true? Just go and ask them. They openly talk about it on gamechat because NcSoft won't take any actions anyway.


    Originally posted by Torak

    Making an elephant out of a mouse, aren't we just a bit?


    I'd say it only depends on what you play for and how you enjoy the game. If you like me enjoy pvp it's no fun to have ppl activate god mode even though they have higher numbers and better stuff. And if you know a good spot on Teon that's usuable for a small party of 2-3 ppl at 79+ and that's not taken by afk bots I am happy to learn from you.

    Watching your screen reminds me of how much fun I had training all those bot trains for extra adena (and for justice! :P). Loved it when I came into an area and all the bots were forcelogging because I got onto their black list. No way to do that anymore though since NcSoft removed the function from the game as you wrote above T.T


    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Well I can't guarantee that Phoenix is the most legit server of all the servers or if it can even come close. I do know that I can level. It has been harder of late because the merges have added more people. But I can level. Do I see bots? Sure, in certain areas I do. But quite frankly I either pk them when I can or level around them.

    Well I sometimes just pk them too but usually some top players or even heros from the major allies show up to protect their bot trains and I can't really beat ppl in god mode when I already have problems beating them without xD

    So, really, I don't need a 100% legit server. It's enough for me if there's some fun non automated pvp without exploits and ofc nice people to group/clan/chat with. For me the social and pvp aspects of the game are the most interessting, so your server really might be an option for me. I just wonder if I really want to give NcSoft $150 to transfer my 5 characters. Guess I should make a level 1 char and give your server a visit to see how I like it.

    Thanks for the info.

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  • isurusisurus Member Posts: 396

    Wasting PKs on bots is retarded.

    If you live in the UK then you should roll Luna. The younger the server the better imo.

    Teon is well-known for being a hardcore server in that it is overpopulated, particularly overrun with bots, and there is a huge amount of corruption among high-level players/clans/alliances.

    The really nasty 3rd party tools (L2aim, etc) are stereotypically Russian, and they play on the Euro servers (especially Teon).

    On the NA servers you really only see Walker and Superman.

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