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About the Asguard.....
trevornor
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Did they not push the big red button in the final season of SG1 because they could no longer continue cloning themselves, destroying their race? If that is so.....
Why does the preview for this game on the Ark of Truth DVD show an Asguard in the party? Just curious or have I missed the timeline or details?
Thanks for any feedback
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You can play as the Asgard in-game is why. I haven't seen all the SG-1 episodes so.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
the game takes place in the time frame between season 8 and 9 ( or is it 9 and 10)
before the asguard were defeated by the replicators
ive never watched Stargate, besides the first movie, but I'll say this.
When making an MMO, a company can, and will, bend lore a bit to fit something in, or make it better for a game.
The game is supposed to take place between seasons 8 and 9. the a Asgard kill themselves in season 10. so Asgard are still around.
and i am positive it is spelled Asgard not Asguard
not 100% on this but i thought i read somwhere that the game take place in an alternate stargate universe.. dont member where tho
Not at all. The game is supposed to parrallel the show, and be the exact same lore that the show is built on. They are involving the writers of the show in the game. I think the idea is to eventually have content that goes back and forth between the show and the game as new shows come out on TV.
As someone mentioned above, it takes place before season 10 when the Asgard were defeated. Some people still think we will see the Asgard again, another colony that was never mentioned. Maybe they will show up during the Atlantis series, or the new series that will be starting soon.
this may have already been said or asked but are they going to have Atlantis at launch or is it going to be more like an exspansion??
From what I've read, Atlantis is currently planned as the first expansion, where we will most likely see space-flight and such. [Due to the puddle jumpers, and things like that.]
Actually, the game takes place between seasons 3 to 8. A large span of time that allows plenty of variety to be involved as well as a large segment of the various races encountered.
And most importantly, no Ori!
The game's storyline continues out from the recent movies, depending on which race you pick, you will encounter different plots.
As seen in one of the episodes, humans have came up with a way to clone them, I beilive that is how they survived.
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No, it as been explicitly stated by the lead developer himself that the game takes place before the Asgard extinction event. To be specific, within days of the end of Season 8.
It is, Asgard is the home of the Gods in Norse Mythology, it's where they got the idea (and partially the story) for the Asgard in SG. Unlike things Norse though, the Asgard in SG are little wimpy fellows, not big tough guys with big beards and horned helmets!
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I would wonder, since mmos usually last 6+ years if not more when they are successful, if not indefinately, and keeping with the idea that more content is going to be added, how they are going to compensate the people making Asgard characters when the game catches up to the last episode of SG-1.
There's a problem with them ascending, since part of the lore is that the Asgard clones themselves because they wished specifically to alter this plane of existence for the better and keep an eye out on the human race whom they have been protecting for so long, and whom they knew the Ancients(Alterans) had created to succeed them. If they had ascended, they would've been bound by the laws the Ancients have to leave the lower planes alone, which would've been disastrous for Earth in the end. However, it leaves them essentially dead.
*SPOILER ALERT*
There could be an isolated colony leftover, but it seems strange, since the Asgard specifically state that they have brought all of them to their home planet, which they self-destruct prematurely and immediately once the Ori attack in order to steal and/or destroy the Asgard data core that they had given to Humanity, to keep and continue their legacy and to commemorate their bestowed Fifth Race status. However, since they imploded their planetary core prematurely(I could be wrong, it seemed like what they did) there could have been stragglers that never made it to the planet in time, and who have hidden out, afraid their minds would be probed for information and knowledge, or their technology stolen for ill means. The Asgard have historically been a feisty and single-minded race of people, their thousands of years of experience have made them on several occasions(and episodes) defy the wishes or orders of other members of the Asgard or the Asgard Council.
So it seems, from what I've gotten of the lore, that there is a distinct, although narrow, plot hole with which the Stargate mmo development team can squeeze through and allow the Asgard characters to live, although probably in a way that would alter gameplay significantly if it's not completely different from the get-go than the other races, in which case it might not be too different. But they'll certainly have a harrowing, isolated journey! Good Luck Asgard.
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You need to look at it with an MMO mentality. The game starts at a point where the Asguard are still around. They can't have asquard for a few years and then tell everyone hwo has played an asguard that long "Sorry, this is the point in the story where you race dies. We gotta delete your character." More then likely this will be a divergence from the main timeline. Part of the Quantum Mirror multiverse thing. If you expect the game to strictly follow the series storyline I think you will be very disappointed.
edit: Yes I see that I spelled asgard wrong in the post, but I ain't changin it.
As far as i know, not all of the Asgard are dead..some are still alive. So looking at their technology level it would be a normal thing that they can reproduce themselfs again.
But tbh i don't care about it, i just want the game to be released...really can't wait for this game. It's gonna be so frikkin awesome to finally walk yourself through the stargate universe
What they could do is have the people with Asguard characters have the option to head to the homeworld, with the understanding that their character will be destroyed, and they will be given a new character of a different class with the same level and a nifty item/title.
Then they could close or limit the creation of new Asgard characters (perhaps only so many per X creations).
That would give them a scarce feeling, and allow people to play out the storyline, without forcing people to delete their character.
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Well, #1 if it's a multiverse thing that's fine, but there's more than just one thing that would need to be different for the Asgard. The reason that they destroyed themselves is one reason. They did so because they were quickly reaching the point where they would no longer be able to clone their bodies, and thus place their consciousness within. This would've left their technology and their minds open to being captured, since they would become increasingly vulnerable. More than likely, they also were thinking the Ori as the main candidate for their attackers, since well, *SPOILER* the Ori attempted to steal or destroy their technology right before they blew themselves up. So the reason they wiped themselves out would have to have a solution.
Also, you would have to seriously change the timeline from when the Ori attacked, because Earth would then have another strong ally with the capability to fight the Ori on even ground, unless you placed some new obstacle in front of the Asgard, ie more replicators. Now I will suggest, the Asgard in a multiverse variation, could have used the replicator bodies to place their consciousnesses within. I'm sure the Asgard would already have thought of this, but a multiverse variation or not, a few Asgard could certainly survive this.
I personally don't like the idea of having the game be a multiverse variant. I think what would be best, would be a troubling quest that your character has to go through when this part in the timeline comes up. To finish the quest without being destroyed, you would have a serious, intellectual challenge, worth of the show itself. If you don't figure it out, poof, your character dies, but in a really good hour or two questline with some great cutscenes. A fitting end to your character that you loved so much. Maybe even a video record of it or something, or like someone else said, some special pieces of equipment given from your Asgard to another character you make. This way, it would give emotional closure plus some bonuses for spending the time you did with your Asgard. It could be tweaked for lvl and such, since I'm sure someone would make a lvl 1 Asgard to get the stuff and cutscene. Nonetheless, it would be nice to give everyone a highly difficult quest, that would give them the chance to keep their character. What's everyone's opinion on that?
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Horrible idea. I hate hate HATE the idea of manditory character deletion. I mean what happens if you go overseas for a month or two, come back, and oops, character gone?
That sounds terrible.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
I believe the idea is that for as long as the game is running, it won't leave the roughly two year period between the end of season 8 and the end of season 10. That's mostly speculative on my part, and also kind of hard to judge since it's quite rare for any specific time frames to be mentioned in the show. Two years worth of television for us could be one year in the show, or five.
Point is, I don't think Asgard players are going to have to worry about being deleted at some point in the future.
I don't think its going to stay in that one point in time. Seriously, that would get old very quick.
People just have to realise that the game will not follow the storyline. Yes the story up to the point in starts will be there, but anything after that is just what the devs add. You are not going to be playing a character in the show, that would just suck because you would have no control. You will be playing a character that lives in a version of Stargate world. A version that will most likely evolve in a different way then the original storyline.
Well there doesn't have to be a time requirement on your character being deleted or not. I never ever said there would. As I saw it, you would come back from being overseas for a few weeks or months, and see that you had a quest to do. You would choose your path, and go about your game. Now if you only play Asgard, you'd definately want to keep your character. But, if you play other characters, and are really into the show, you might want to take the CG special character ending.(keep in mind I'm not saying you aren't into the show if you don't let your character die, I'm just saying if you have other characters you might want to experience the Last Stand of the Asgard from their point of view, not to mention the unique items for your other characters.)
This is, after all, a game specifically catering to fans of the show. Yes, it's a game and that is very important. Yet, it has to be Stargate before it's a game, but be able to do both exceptionally well. If it isn't Stargate first, and they can make any sort of leases, then it might as well be any of a dozen MMOs coming out in the next six months. I'm already set for one mmo, and I'm invested in two others. I'm doing this because I've been watching Stargate since it premiered on Showtime, and it has changed dramatically how my mind and conscience have developed since I was 17.
The show has reference points, and it generally points out that it moves along the same timeline we move. It talks about relatively recent movies. So it's about ten years, not counting the year or two of Atlantis afterwards. However, the game would only be possible at least 4 or 5 years after the show started, I think, because only then we begin to acquire technology, and only then did the Stargate program have enough people on staff, or on lease, as well as enough teams to warrant the kind of population an mmo would have. That gives you five years of action and such, without the death of the Asgard.
If it starts at that, and ends at that, then you have five years. If you want the game to be recent, with analogies to events on last week's Atlantis episode and recent SG-1 films, then you're going to have to accept either an alternate timeline, where any part of the canon could be altered, anybody's favorite part of the show, for constraints, or you could accept some variation of what I'm talking about and keeping the game as canon as possible.
You know there is such a thing as stasis pods and people missing out on key events because they're in them in this universe.
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I still think you are taking the canon issue a little too seriously. Wether you want it to be or not this will not be Stagate SG1 first. This is Stargate Worlds Online. The game will come first, while keeping to the history up to the point the game originates. Once the game originates they have no need to stick with the way the stoyline progressed because people who are long time fans would get bored knowing what is going to happen already.