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I agree, this is insanity. This was supposed to be in at launch.. then they said the end of June. Then the end of July. then they said "next weeks patch".
Now they make a post that really sounds like they don't even have most of the design decisions done.
They really are just trying to drag out the subscriptions of any suckers still left playing. This is basically exactly the same 'state' they were in at the beginning of June. They have made no progress in this game at all. There is no way they are going to have this done by September 18th, which is pretty much 'dead day' at Funcom.
Yeah, when its ready, if you want to experience, and give feedback on it, join the test server.
Spewing rhetoric you read on other forums does not serve to make your point, nor does it make you appear to be intelligent, quite the opposite actually.
Saying the system is akin to UO is an absolute fabrication, you obviously did not play UO in its golden days, or you would never have compared the two systems.
The Test Server you say? where they cant even keep the NPCs for boosting characters spawned properly, in order for them to test said content. It took two days of players asking for a respawn last weekend just so we could test anything at all, unless you want to test level 37 content, wooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
What a joke.
Rock a FailCom avatar now and express your disgust with pride!
The truth hurts...
Funcom RX
Bloodworth getting delayed is one thing, but seemingly developing something that was hyped as a part of release is another.
they have already promised us 2 release dates for the pvp system, and niether have been true.
They have promised us addition content a long time ago. Never came out.
They promised itemization, hell they had the nerve to tell me that they have added 50,000 items to the game since launch. When i did cancel.
They promised the dark templars would get thier class looked at. they fixed 2 useless skills that are still useless and have never said another word to them.
I could continue to list the things promised and not delivered.
Spilled milk. Also, these things take time. Better to have it right, than broken.
Also, people here are confused about "Promised" they never, ever promised anything in regards to the updates they have talked about after launch. They were all hopeful, and target dates. Not promised.
Add on a layer of testing, that they are doing (Also with players), and those dates are to change.
What we have here is the "I want it now" generation, and a separation from reality from posters.
In reality, things get delayed, if you cant handle this, get another hobby.
Well if i am forced to pay for a product, i expect to recieve that product. If that makes me part of the I want it now generation. I guess i am.
The fact is that the delays dont even get announced. the target day they told us just passes and they make no announcements.
The fact is that AoC got delayed multiple times so it would be ready for launch. Clearly it isnt.
Quit sucking up, you wont get free playtime.
Can I ask you a serious question?
In all honesty.... how long becomes to long considering this SHOULD HAVE been in the game at launch.... and was PROMISED at the end of June.
At what point, do you specifically (MrBloodworth) say "you know what?, they have had enough time, Im done paying for this game until they add what needs to be added."
I would very much like a set time sir.... months, weeks, days, hours, whatever... but please be specific.
Again...I ask this in ALL SERIOUSNESS
I have a feeling your comparing apples to oranges. AOC is a unique game with unique systems. This is not "Copy PvP system from game X, and Paste".
Anyone saying that "This continues to show incompetence" is a moron. No game has ever designed something "Perfect" from before launch, there is no way to predict what players will do with a system in a live setting.
You can design all day long on paper, but until you get players in it, its a work in progress and possibly a starting point. Also, to say no progress has been made is an ignorant opinion at best. There have already been at least 2 iterations on the Test live server.
Proof: Every MMO ever made.
To answer your question directly, When its done.
I’m not defending anything, just stating reality.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
So do you ever post any actual facts? or is this blind fanboyism the best you can manage?
Your nose is so brown that you cant even face the reality of the situation, so instead you just churn out anything you've heard someone else say before, whether it makes sense or not (most of what you write rarely does).
Never promised anything? thats odd because on my game box it promises a whole lot, most of which doesn't work properly still three + months post launch, after repeated attempts to fix problems, where they have managed to create more with every single update.
Oh right, and removing the DirectX10 option from the vid options (because it was consistent with what is legally considered false advertising) must have been a mistake too right? they never intended to have it in at launch, it was just a mistake made by us players, right? they didn't "promise" us it personally, so we should have never expected it?
You are beyond deluded fanboy.
Rock a FailCom avatar now and express your disgust with pride!
The truth hurts...
Funcom RX
Anyone using the line "But we are paying customers" Needs to cancel, and move on, and never play another mmo until at least 1 year after release.
To devote your life to basing a game that others possably enjoy, is sad. Very sad.
This is not Dark and Light we are talking about here, and developers do not make games just to fuck you over.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Well Bloodworth seems since they advertised this feature it should have been done and simulated in a live enviroment in beta huh? I mean since this was a key selling point of the game?
so, you personally, would be completely content to pay FunCom $14.99 per month for the next 7 months for things that should have been in the game at launch?
Because the content wont be there till the beginning of 2009 (as said by Erling Ellingsen.
would you pay for this game for the next 4 months waiting for the PvP system?
would you?
The same applies to defending it in the same manner, you are no better, take your own advice.
Rock a FailCom avatar now and express your disgust with pride!
The truth hurts...
Funcom RX
Have cancelled just like most here. But I like others want to make sure possible future buyers be properly warned about tihs company and it's practices.
pssst.
Mrbloodworth
I made a reply a few posts ago
I would appreciate a rebuttal for when I get back from having a few beers
Sensationalism? Ok I'm sorry you're so upset by funcoms actions that you feel the need to attack others whom are making known their displeasure in a horrid company.
To try and get back on topic now, posts like what Famine relayed is what drove me from the game. It really gives the sense that they really don't know what or where the game is headed.
Do you think this failcom reaction is normal for a game? I'm sorry, but people vote on their game with their pocketbook. WOW doubled in subscribers every 3 months for the first 18 months it launched. Even when there were server queues, people still praised how great the game was and got their friends to play.
It's obvious that AoC is garbage and Funcom is a bunch of lying scam artists just because everyong is cancelling. You didn't see people saying "my server is a ghosttown" in WOW.. you saw people waiting an hour in queue just to play the game. You didn't see people asking for server merges in the first month of WOW.
AoC was garbage at launch, and the devs have not done anything to improve the game in the last 3 months except talk. Do you honestly not think that AoC will be down to around 50k players when Warhammer launches? You can defend the devs all you want Avery, but in few months you'll be playing a game without any devs.
Certain people are clearly losing sight of a few key points.
Yes, all MMO's take time to mature. Yes, all MMO's launch with bugs, and those bugs take time to squash. Some are easier than others.
However, those excuses do not excuse what Funcom did with AoC. It's one thing to thoroughly beta test a product and then release it with some bugs. It's quite another thing to release a product with several key systems that have never been beta tested at all.
I cannot think of a single other AAA MMO that has released completely untested content, much less the sheer volume of what AoC released with. Things have not improved since, even though they now have the TestLive server. Do they even have the vendors in place yet so that you can jump to higher level for testing purposes? How can this PvP system (or any of the other high level systems) be properly tested when the test server has no means other than regular play to get to high enough level?
THAT is the problem here, and why people are justifiably angry with Funcom. The "all MMO's take time" argument just doesn't fly here. Or rather, it does fly: in the face of common sense.
Of course you don’t, you don’t care what anyone’s view or personal stance on the game is, if it doesn’t match your sensationalist view of ""The Sux", then you just continue to imply, and label as a "Fanboy" so you can continue to flame and pat yourself on the back.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me