This isnt WoW people are comparing Order to alliance and destruction to Horde its the opposite really kids go to the cooler looking classes ala Chaos Chosen mostly or any other destruction class that looks cool to them while the more mature are going for the less popular side
I can tell you after GTA kids dont care about whos good or bad but what is cool
No such thing as luck, just believing in it is what makes it real to you and really...thats all you need.
This isnt WoW people are comparing Order to alliance and destruction to Horde its the opposite really kids go to the cooler looking classes ala Chaos Chosen mostly or any other destruction class that looks cool to them while the more mature are going for the less popular side
I can tell you after GTA kids dont care about whos good or bad but what is cool
Why does being mature mean that you go for the less popular side? I went for the side that interested me the most. Which at this moment appears to be the more populated side. Don't you dare try and turn this on me saying that I'm not mature
This isnt WoW people are comparing Order to alliance and destruction to Horde its the opposite really kids go to the cooler looking classes ala Chaos Chosen mostly or any other destruction class that looks cool to them while the more mature are going for the less popular side
I can tell you after GTA kids dont care about whos good or bad but what is cool
Why does being mature mean that you go for the less popular side? I went for the side that interested me the most. Which at this moment appears to be the more populated side. Don't you dare try and turn this on me saying that I'm not mature
Yes and being the underdog gets more people interested in order usually kids dont care about this kinda thing they pick the coolest looking class and thats it
No such thing as luck, just believing in it is what makes it real to you and really...thats all you need.
Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass
i mean, come on...you got this:
Versus this:
Which one screams bad ass?
its the opposite kids want the cool badasses they dont care about heroes lol look at GTA how many kids play it and love smoken some newb pedestrians off the sidewalk cause they are l33t kids want to play the COOL classes not the heroes or pretty people
No such thing as luck, just believing in it is what makes it real to you and really...thats all you need.
Obviously I can't talk about CB but your worries over population arn't needed because theres always a constant balance between the two sides with every race being used, so nothing is really more popular than the other, the empire and chaos might have a slight advantage in numbers but that could just be because the game isn't shipping with the other cities for RVR.
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Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass
i mean, come on...you got this:
Versus this:
Which one screams bad ass?
Yeh but in game the High Elves look really good and the Chaos don't look as good as the concept. The Bright Wizard is a ginger so he doesn't look kool lol.
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I played an Alliance character in World of Warcraft.
I was part of the Rebel faction in Star Wars Galaxies.
I was affiliated with Zion when I played The Matrix Online.
I play as the New Conglamerate on Planetside.
I played as a Freep on Everquest 2.
I played as a Freep on Lord of the Rings Online.
etc. etc. You get the point
I am not a "little kid" and I chose to play one of the Order races LONG ago. There are many more factors to choosing a side than whether something looks "bad ass." Some players (including myself) just enjoy being part of the more civilized and righteous side of the game.
Easy on the tunnel vision, broaden your view.
(edit: As for the High Elf and Chaos picture, I would definately choose the High Elf. If you know anything about High Elf lore, or have any basic understanding of Elves you will know why they are the better choice.)
Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass Which one screams bad ass?
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
I personally beleive destruction was designed better overall. I mean just look at them, they look superior in every way and you can really tell a lot of work was put into the art work. The humans and dwarves look really weird to me... Then again i have played horde for years on wow so i like the whole darker theme.
Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass Which one screams bad ass?
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
Engineer doesnt sound good with its turrents to protect keeps? White Lion doesnt sound good for distraction? Bright Wizard doesnt sound like awsome DPS? Warrior Priest isn't a great buffer?........
There are ALOT of good order classes for PvP. if u wanna be ignorant thats cool, my guild will just be rollin you all day ...then im sure ppl will cry nerf.
Protip: If someone does NOT list at least one positive and one negative about the game they are critiquing, its best to ignore the post.
Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass Which one screams bad ass?
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
You're blind if you don't think Karl Franz looks just as, if not more badass, than Tchar'zanek. Sure it doesn't represent the entire Order alliance but the great thing about WAR is there's no pink afro gnomes. The good guys are dark grey and the bad guys are black as night. And a little green around the edges if you want to count Greenskins.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass Which one screams bad ass?
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
Engineer doesnt sound good with its turrents to protect keeps? White Lion doesnt sound good for distraction? Bright Wizard doesnt sound like awsome DPS? Warrior Priest isn't a great buffer?........
There are ALOT of good order classes for PvP. if u wanna be ignorant thats cool, my guild will just be rollin you all day ...then im sure ppl will cry nerf.
Guy... I wasn't talking about how good the classes are in pvp... I was talking about the appeal that races like chaos or greenskins have over dwarves and elves to hardcore pvpers. Yikes.
Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass Which one screams bad ass?
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
You're blind if you don't think Karl Franz looks just as, if not more badass, than Tchar'zanek. Sure it doesn't represent the entire Order alliance but the great thing about WAR is there's no pink afro gnomes. The good guys are dark grey and the bad guys are black as night. And a little green around the edges if you want to count Greenskins.
Wallpapers? Well I guess some people look at those. Let's talk about something a little more visable like this box art. Here it's not as much how factions look it's who looks more dominant and aggressive in a fight and more prominent in the layout (being what someone sees first on the box).
Order is like oh crap let me defend myself... God I hope i get my pistol out in time... Destruction is like AAAARRRRGH I'll eat your children next!!!! Now of course order in this art has appeal of another kind but it isn't the kind to attract the more assertive in pvp. Don't get me wrong I like the art. It's got that classic fantasy thing but I'm just thinking about what little things influence someone to choose their side.
Not being in beta myself, I've only heard greenskins are fun to play, which might be part of the draw. As for being the underdog, it's been said that if one side is at a disadvantage, they might get an xp bonus or something to level it out.
Also, witch hunter is pretty badass to me, not exactly the hero. He'll burn an entire village before letting one chaos worsihpper live.
I dont care about being the good side or being badass...
Im rolling dwarf. I want to drink lots of beer, grow an enormous beard, be short, and explode my enemies's kneecaps.
Also I dont think that choosing a race is about being badass. It's about looking at the races and go: hmmm... which race's face do I want to melt the most?
Now that I've mulled it over for a day, I would think 'hardcore' gamers would care more about the skills of a class and how those skills intermix with other classes on their side. I'd go prancing around in a tiara and a My Little Ponies t-shirt if that's what it took to pwn some wanna-be l33t kids.
A 3 class Empire with ... a mage and ... a witch hunter .... Who wants to play with that???
Mythic doesn't know 70% of all warhammer miniatures players have an Empire block in their closet.
To me its clear : Mythic designers hardly played the minature game at all.
But of course 95% of the MMORPG players are not even interested in the miniatures game. Who cares.
Well the WH clubs care.
It surprises me every time I play at my club that interest of those Warhammer players is so low. You hardly find anyhting in the MMO that makes the Warhammer miniatures game so interesting.
If they had deleted the WP, it would have been a complete disaster.
In terms of the general rule of thumb I agree with what folks have said about bada$$ being the way to roll.
That said, I tend to like characters I can actually 'feel' and so I'll end rolling a dwarf and a High Elf. *shrug*
When my brother and I play together (we're in vastly different time zones so it's not too much) we've always tended to play the 'goody' types. For this game we're waffling over to the greenskin side of the fence just to be different. That said, for my solo play, I just don't 'feel' evil enough to mumble vague profanities and spit on the sidewalk like good Chaos minions should.
Anyone who think realm imbalance isn't an issue haven't played DAoC. If Chaos is going dominate the population then it seems WAR will share the same flaw as Mythic's previous game.
Sure being the underdog can be cool, and getting bonuses on a under pop realm is a nice but that will fade, and quickly when you're fighting out numbered 2 to 1 in every keep battle and frontier encounter. Another major problem with being the under pop realm is it tend to bleed population. A few hardcore guilds will stay and some might even relocate to your server but when the word gets out that the realm is getting blasted with zerg raids day in day out, the general population will take a dive as people start leaving for more populated realms on other servers.
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This isnt WoW people are comparing Order to alliance and destruction to Horde its the opposite really kids go to the cooler looking classes ala Chaos Chosen mostly or any other destruction class that looks cool to them while the more mature are going for the less popular side
I can tell you after GTA kids dont care about whos good or bad but what is cool
No such thing as luck, just believing in it is what makes it real to you and really...thats all you need.
Im on nobodies' side but my own.
Why does being mature mean that you go for the less popular side? I went for the side that interested me the most. Which at this moment appears to be the more populated side. Don't you dare try and turn this on me saying that I'm not mature
Why does being mature mean that you go for the less popular side? I went for the side that interested me the most. Which at this moment appears to be the more populated side. Don't you dare try and turn this on me saying that I'm not mature
Yes and being the underdog gets more people interested in order usually kids dont care about this kinda thing they pick the coolest looking class and thats it
No such thing as luck, just believing in it is what makes it real to you and really...thats all you need.
Im on nobodies' side but my own.
Same thing that happened with WoW.
Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass
i mean, come on...you got this:
Versus this:
Which one screams bad ass?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Well i gotta say that for a "hero" this guy looks pretty bada**.
its the opposite kids want the cool badasses they dont care about heroes lol look at GTA how many kids play it and love smoken some newb pedestrians off the sidewalk cause they are l33t kids want to play the COOL classes not the heroes or pretty people
No such thing as luck, just believing in it is what makes it real to you and really...thats all you need.
Im on nobodies' side but my own.
Obviously I can't talk about CB but your worries over population arn't needed because theres always a constant balance between the two sides with every race being used, so nothing is really more popular than the other, the empire and chaos might have a slight advantage in numbers but that could just be because the game isn't shipping with the other cities for RVR.
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Talking about SWG much?
Yeh but in game the High Elves look really good and the Chaos don't look as good as the concept. The Bright Wizard is a ginger so he doesn't look kool lol.
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Talking about SWG much?
I played an Alliance character in World of Warcraft.
I was part of the Rebel faction in Star Wars Galaxies.
I was affiliated with Zion when I played The Matrix Online.
I play as the New Conglamerate on Planetside.
I played as a Freep on Everquest 2.
I played as a Freep on Lord of the Rings Online.
etc. etc. You get the point
I am not a "little kid" and I chose to play one of the Order races LONG ago. There are many more factors to choosing a side than whether something looks "bad ass." Some players (including myself) just enjoy being part of the more civilized and righteous side of the game.
Easy on the tunnel vision, broaden your view.
(edit: As for the High Elf and Chaos picture, I would definately choose the High Elf. If you know anything about High Elf lore, or have any basic understanding of Elves you will know why they are the better choice.)
STOP WHINING!
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
I personally beleive destruction was designed better overall. I mean just look at them, they look superior in every way and you can really tell a lot of work was put into the art work. The humans and dwarves look really weird to me... Then again i have played horde for years on wow so i like the whole darker theme.
http://cylongaming.blogspot.com
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
Engineer doesnt sound good with its turrents to protect keeps? White Lion doesnt sound good for distraction? Bright Wizard doesnt sound like awsome DPS? Warrior Priest isn't a great buffer?........
There are ALOT of good order classes for PvP. if u wanna be ignorant thats cool, my guild will just be rollin you all day
...then im sure ppl will cry nerf.
Protip: If someone does NOT list at least one positive and one negative about the game they are critiquing, its best to ignore the post.
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
Chaos: http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/wallpaper/WAR_Tchar02.jpg
Empire: http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/wallpaper/WAR_KarlFranz.jpg
You're blind if you don't think Karl Franz looks just as, if not more badass, than Tchar'zanek. Sure it doesn't represent the entire Order alliance but the great thing about WAR is there's no pink afro gnomes. The good guys are dark grey and the bad guys are black as night. And a little green around the edges if you want to count Greenskins.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
This deserved some recognition.
You destruction weaklings are in for a surprise. I shall welcome you to WAR with my hammer and it will be glorious. Happy Zerging rofl.
http://revolutionwar.guildlaunch.com/
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
Engineer doesnt sound good with its turrents to protect keeps? White Lion doesnt sound good for distraction? Bright Wizard doesnt sound like awsome DPS? Warrior Priest isn't a great buffer?........
There are ALOT of good order classes for PvP. if u wanna be ignorant thats cool, my guild will just be rollin you all day
...then im sure ppl will cry nerf.
Guy... I wasn't talking about how good the classes are in pvp... I was talking about the appeal that races like chaos or greenskins have over dwarves and elves to hardcore pvpers. Yikes.
DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance. I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin. He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion. My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance. Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem. It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction. A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol. And destruction just reeks of badassery. The better pvpers will opt for destruction. There's no doubt.
Chaos: http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/wallpaper/WAR_Tchar02.jpg
Empire: http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/wallpaper/WAR_KarlFranz.jpg
You're blind if you don't think Karl Franz looks just as, if not more badass, than Tchar'zanek. Sure it doesn't represent the entire Order alliance but the great thing about WAR is there's no pink afro gnomes. The good guys are dark grey and the bad guys are black as night. And a little green around the edges if you want to count Greenskins.
Wallpapers? Well I guess some people look at those. Let's talk about something a little more visable like this box art. Here it's not as much how factions look it's who looks more dominant and aggressive in a fight and more prominent in the layout (being what someone sees first on the box).
http://www.vgboxart.com/view/8361/warhammer.online.age.of.reckoning/?replies=10
Order is like oh crap let me defend myself... God I hope i get my pistol out in time... Destruction is like AAAARRRRGH I'll eat your children next!!!! Now of course order in this art has appeal of another kind but it isn't the kind to attract the more assertive in pvp. Don't get me wrong I like the art. It's got that classic fantasy thing but I'm just thinking about what little things influence someone to choose their side.
Not being in beta myself, I've only heard greenskins are fun to play, which might be part of the draw. As for being the underdog, it's been said that if one side is at a disadvantage, they might get an xp bonus or something to level it out.
Also, witch hunter is pretty badass to me, not exactly the hero. He'll burn an entire village before letting one chaos worsihpper live.
I dont care about being the good side or being badass...
Im rolling dwarf. I want to drink lots of beer, grow an enormous beard, be short, and explode my enemies's kneecaps.
Also I dont think that choosing a race is about being badass. It's about looking at the races and go: hmmm... which race's face do I want to melt the most?
growth is out.
Now that I've mulled it over for a day, I would think 'hardcore' gamers would care more about the skills of a class and how those skills intermix with other classes on their side. I'd go prancing around in a tiara and a My Little Ponies t-shirt if that's what it took to pwn some wanna-be l33t kids.
Might just be me though.
Chaos has more complete classes. That's why...
A 3 class Empire with ... a mage and ... a witch hunter .... Who wants to play with that???
Mythic doesn't know 70% of all warhammer miniatures players have an Empire block in their closet.
To me its clear : Mythic designers hardly played the minature game at all.
But of course 95% of the MMORPG players are not even interested in the miniatures game. Who cares.
Well the WH clubs care.
It surprises me every time I play at my club that interest of those Warhammer players is so low. You hardly find anyhting in the MMO that makes the Warhammer miniatures game so interesting.
If they had deleted the WP, it would have been a complete disaster.
In terms of the general rule of thumb I agree with what folks have said about bada$$ being the way to roll.
That said, I tend to like characters I can actually 'feel' and so I'll end rolling a dwarf and a High Elf. *shrug*
When my brother and I play together (we're in vastly different time zones so it's not too much) we've always tended to play the 'goody' types. For this game we're waffling over to the greenskin side of the fence just to be different. That said, for my solo play, I just don't 'feel' evil enough to mumble vague profanities and spit on the sidewalk like good Chaos minions should.
I think that while the general populace tends to go with 'cool' for a lot of folks, especially Veterans ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RegzUvYZ7E&feature=related )
of gaming, it ends up being what feels best for each individual.
Anyone who think realm imbalance isn't an issue haven't played DAoC. If Chaos is going dominate the population then it seems WAR will share the same flaw as Mythic's previous game.
Sure being the underdog can be cool, and getting bonuses on a under pop realm is a nice but that will fade, and quickly when you're fighting out numbered 2 to 1 in every keep battle and frontier encounter. Another major problem with being the under pop realm is it tend to bleed population. A few hardcore guilds will stay and some might even relocate to your server but when the word gets out that the realm is getting blasted with zerg raids day in day out, the general population will take a dive as people start leaving for more populated realms on other servers.
Chaos will always triumph, because Order is dumb.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."