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Question on bandwidth USAGE

FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247

 

My girl has wild blue yonder sat isp.

 

they limit usage to 12 gigs per 30 day period.....

she loves youtube, we use camera on msn messenger...yadda ...

we both love to play mmo's together....

how much typical bandwidth is USED over your average 2-3 hours a night gaming ...  currently we both play Aoc, but we've played SL in the past also.....

I tried to google usage stats but keep getting nowhere....    can anyone just rough guess it for me in the ball park?

 

ty in advance.

faxx

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  • GazenthiaGazenthia Member Posts: 1,186

    I don't have any numbers for you, but I remember that this was brought up before on another forum. I think the general consensus was that the games didn't use enough to be an issue for anyone, even over the course of a month and they talked about bandwidth-intensive stuff that they did.



    Regardless, I'd say that will all change. Sooner than later. Just recently people had to DL 9-10 gigs worth of stuff in torrent form for WAR. Movies, shows, you name it, everything is moving to the web in addition to the content in it already increasing their collective appetite. I think you guys need to unionize and move to remove bandwidth caps before ya get crippled.

     

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  • andeemann10andeemann10 Member Posts: 237

    I have Wildblue as well (and I cry every day because of it). I have the 17 gig limit however. I always managed to get by with normal internet usage and playing DAoC a decent amount, but that always had me floating in a risky area. One big download always pushes me off the edge.

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  • demonslyerdemonslyer Member Posts: 84

    rouch guess would be 15-25/hr not much at all

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  • technopathtechnopath Member Posts: 6

    it really depends.

     

    playing mmos (like AoC) does not actually use much bandwidth. an entire Saturday playing TF2 will only take up around 20mb for me, assuming I didn't download any new maps. AoC is pretty flashy and the newer mmos do use more bandwidth just because they have more objects that the server has to tell your computer about.

    Youtube can be a killer because an average video (like a 4 minute music clip) is around 50mb.

    I have no idea how much the webcam would take up but if it is a two way webcam conversation i guess it would actually rack up quite a few megabyte over half an hour.

     

    i recommend downloading yourself a one-month trial version of a program called NetLimiter 2 Pro. This logs all the downloading/uploading your computer does. This should show you exactly how much bandwidth your computer used since it was installed.

    You can also use it to limit how fast each program can download (eg. use it to slow down torrents while your youtube video loads)

  • demonslyerdemonslyer Member Posts: 84

    i thinks its retarted that they are now tryin to control the internet -_-.

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  • Tyres100Tyres100 Member Posts: 704
    Originally posted by demonslyer


    i thinks its retarted that they are now tryin to control the internet -_-.

     

    They been doing this for a few years now. Limiting bandwidth to several issues.

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  • IlliusIllius Member UncommonPosts: 4,142
    Originally posted by demonslyer


    i thinks its retarted that they are now tryin to control the internet -_-.

    Yeah, it's kind of counter productive...  The offer you music and movies that you can download.  A good chunk of the game clients is available to download as well as some of the patches are coming more frequently with more and more crap packed into them.

    You'd think they'd be making enough money as it is now, but apparently they want you to go over the limit just so that they can bleed a few more bucks out of you.  I'd think all the sites that make a living out of downloads will not stand for such a thing.  Once the download rate goes down and their wallets start feeling a bit on the light side this will probably all be gone.

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  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702
    Originally posted by Illius

    Originally posted by demonslyer


    i thinks its retarted that they are now tryin to control the internet -_-.

    Yeah, it's kind of counter productive...  The offer you music and movies that you can download.  A good chunk of the game clients is available to download as well as some of the patches are coming more frequently with more and more crap packed into them.

    You'd think they'd be making enough money as it is now, but apparently they want you to go over the limit just so that they can bleed a few more bucks out of you.  I'd think all the sites that make a living out of downloads will not stand for such a thing.  Once the download rate goes down and their wallets start feeling a bit on the light side this will probably all be gone.

     

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  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702

    why is this being done?

    is hollywood lobbying the ISP's to limit P2P?

    backbones right? have they raised their rates for data transfer?

    i really dont get it.

     

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  • KurushKurush Member Posts: 1,303
    Originally posted by bluberryhaze


    why is this being done?
    is hollywood lobbying the ISP's to limit P2P?
    backbones right? have they raised their rates for data transfer?
    i really dont get it.
     

     

    First off, to the OP, don't sweat the meter if all she does is grab shit off youtube and play online games.  To begin with, youtube uses very low quality video with a lot of compression, so each video is actually rather small.  And playing online games actually involves very little transfer up or down, especially MMORPG's.  The reason you want a good connection for online games is latency, not bandwidth.  Most modern MMORPG's will only have you download 5-10MB per hour.  Some people might say 50'ish, but that's your high-end FPS's, not MMORPG's.

    To blu, the concerns of ISP's over this are theoretically legitimate, but the details of it are a bit complicated.  Here's the short version.  An ISP pays for its bandwidth (the total maximum speed of all of its users).  It doesn't pay for the amount it transfers, so it doesn't matter how much or little of that gets used.  So why should it care how much a customer transfers?  Theoretically, it wouldn't matter at all.  Here's the deal, though.  Most ISP's oversell their bandwidth.  In other words, the total allotted bandwidth of all oftheir customers exceeds the ISP's actual total.  Most of the time, this works without any customer getting slowed down.  This is a good thing for consumers, too, since the customer gets a faster connection than they would normally have.  It works because most people don't hit their cap for sustained periods of time.  They either download at full speed in short bursts or use a relatively small amount for a long time.

    The problem becomes the "bandwidth hogs" on your network.  If you have a lot of people using bandwidth-intensive applications all the time (this usually means file-sharing), then that can slow down other users.  It can theoretically slow down other users, anyway.  In reality, it rarely does for big ISP's.  For small, regional broadband ISP's, it can be a problem.  If she's using sat, it may or may not be an issue.  Sat ISP's usually end up forcing the worst conditions on their customers, since sat users rarely have much choice in terms of who they go to.

  • squeeesqueee Member Posts: 722

    Its a preemptive strike to kill IP TV or if they dont then it guarantees them more money.

    I get TimeWarner where I live and they are already experimenting limiting folks to 20gigs per month in rural areas.  The average NetFlix movie stream uses up 4gigs.  So that means 5 movies a month tops or 4 movies if you want 4 gigs per month left over for other things.  So in my $90 a month cable bill $30 or so a month is internet.  If I decide that I no longer need ass tons of channels that I never watch I would only be paying $30 a month.  Sounds good, especially in this economy.  But, if they start limiting bandwidth they can make it so watching NetFlix, Hulu, etc. are not a viable option and I would have to return to TV.  But lucky me i can pay and additional dollar per gig per month, thus pushing my bill back up.  Woot!  Nothing like making a killing off something that costs you nothing.

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