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WoW to WAR Class Comparisons
nikoa
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I have been reading a lot about the different WAR classes but I know from previous MMOs that class descriptions are not exactly how classes end up working out.
So since WoW tends to be the MMO that most people are familiar with, what WAR class reminds you of which WoW class?
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its hard to say since there is only 8 classes in wow and 20 in war. I don't think any of the classes resemble a wow class. the classes in war are very unique.
well it aint that easy cause they are so different but there are some similarities
wow >>> war (NO I AM NOT SAYING WOW IS BETTER
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first of there hunter and squig herder
euhm rogue = witch elf
(fire)mage = bright wizard
(totems) shaman = rune priest
(prot)paladin= chosen
warlock = (not 100% sure but i think magus is the dotter)
(prot) warrior = black orc
death knight = tank of high elf (mainly because its more a spell tank)
(resto) shaman (shadow) priest = shaman
(resto) druid (holy) priest and (holy paladin) = zaelot and archmage
the ones i can't place is engineer, white lion, warrior priest, disciple of khain and the sorceress
mainly because engineer is mostly direct damage and turrets
and white lion is the new kind of class (melee dps + pet!!)
and warrior priest and discple of khain have some similarities as a melee shaman from wow but they can heal alot better
sorceress basicly is the caster that does serious damage but at high risks (not sure about the risk but i think they can damage themselfs)
i pbb forgot some classes but this is basicly it
And no i am not breaking NDA cause i am not even in the beta (stupid ass fucking GOA)
I just know alot about warhammer cause i have seen every god damn movie and piece of information about warhammer and no i don't know EVERYTHING
8.... lol
there is 9 classes
warrior
rogue
shaman
paladin
mage
warlock
druid
hunter
priest
and 1 more that counts as 10
death knight
The Death Knight isn't even in the game yet. You are borderline blind fanboism. And you have your comparisons between WAR and WoW classes greatly skewed, the way they work isn't alike.
Ok
here we go..
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Zealot - Shadow Priest
Magus - half afliction and half demonology warlock
Chosen - Paladin ... just swap holy magic with shadow magic
Brigh Wizard - Fire Mage
Sorc - Arcane + light frost mage
Witch Elf - Rogue
Witch Hunter - Rogue on steroids (ranged attacks FTW
Marauder - stance dancing warriors
Black Orc - Arms warrior
Squig Herder - marksman + beast hunter with nice melee capabilities
White Lion - Heavy Survival/beast hunter mixed with arms warrior
Disciple - Enhanc Shaman mixed with affliction Warlock
Warrior Priest - Paladin mixed with disciple/holy priest
Iron Breaker - warrior + bear druid
Shaman - elemental Shaman
Rune Priest - Balance druid mixed with holy priest
Engineer - Marksman Hunter with turrents
Swordmaster - Arms Warrior mixed with disciple priest and bit from arcane mage
Shadow Warrior - Marksman Hunter mixed with warrior.
first of there squig herder and hunter
euhm rogue = witch elf
(fire)mage = bright wizard
(totems) shaman = rune priest
(prot)paladin= chosen
warlock = (not 100% sure but i think magus is the dotter)
(prot) warrior = black orc
death knight = tank of high elf (mainly because its more a spell tank)
(resto) shaman (shadow) priest = shaman
(resto) druid (holy) priest and (holy paladin) = zaelot and archmage
the ones i can't place is engineer, white lion, warrior priest, disciple of khain and the sorceress
mainly because engineer is mostly direct damage and turrets
and white lion is the new kind of class (melee dps + pet!!)
and warrior priest and discple of khain have some similarities as a melee shaman from wow but they can heal alot better
sorceress basicly is the caster that does serious damage but at high risks (not sure about the risk but i think they can damage themselfs)
Seems like warrior priest would be more like palidin and chosen would be more like death night. I don't think chosens can heal right? And a shaman in war?
hehehe
yea i noticed changed it before you could post that though
first of there squig herder and hunter
euhm rogue = witch elf
(fire)mage = bright wizard
(totems) shaman = rune priest
(prot)paladin= chosen
warlock = (not 100% sure but i think magus is the dotter)
(prot) warrior = black orc
death knight = tank of high elf (mainly because its more a spell tank)
(resto) shaman (shadow) priest = shaman
(resto) druid (holy) priest and (holy paladin) = zaelot and archmage
the ones i can't place is engineer, white lion, warrior priest, disciple of khain and the sorceress
mainly because engineer is mostly direct damage and turrets
and white lion is the new kind of class (melee dps + pet!!)
and warrior priest and discple of khain have some similarities as a melee shaman from wow but they can heal alot better
sorceress basicly is the caster that does serious damage but at high risks (not sure about the risk but i think they can damage themselfs)
Seems like warrior priest would be more like palidin and chosen would be more like death night. I don't think chosens can heal right? And a shaman in war?
euhm chosen has auras and yes they can be similar to death cause of the spell tank
goblin shaman (coolest class there is in war!!)
and warrior priest needs to do damage in order to heal, paladin doesn't
and yes
Hmm... I remember seeing a post on chosen and black orcs saying they're strictly for tanking. Like if you try to spec dmg they're all going to laugh at you. Would be cool cuz I would want the closest thing to an arms dps warrior.
Hmm... I remember seeing a post on chosen and black orcs saying they're strictly for tanking. Like if you try to spec dmg they're all going to laugh at you. Would be cool cuz I would want the closest thing to an arms dps warrior.
Some of the old Choppa skills probably went into Black Orc, so I'm guessing they are more viable now in terms of damage dealing.
I don't think you can actually compare them.
Most of them are way different.
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You can compare similarities between them, even as simple as "this class has heal over time spells, so it's like a resto Druid, but it can also use DoTs, so it's like a Warlock too."
I am interested in what someone said above... Zealot is like a Shadow Priest? I thought Zealot was one of the pure healers with very little offensive power... where SPriests had amazing damage output, but were the true definition of glass cannons.
Just wondering if anyone can clear that one up. I'm tring to decide between Zealot and Shaman.
there is 9 classes
warrior
rogue
shaman
paladin
mage
warlock
druid
hunter
priest
and 1 more that counts as 10
death knight
Lol...o noes someone forgot the deathknight. Im sure glad you corrected them. /sigh
Does it even count? WOTLK isnt even out yet.
there is 9 classes
warrior
rogue
shaman
paladin
mage
warlock
druid
hunter
priest
and 1 more that counts as 10
death knight
Lol...o noes someone forgot the deathknight. Im sure glad you corrected them. /sigh
Does it even count? WOTLK isnt even out yet.
Euhm ok, it looks like you have some bad eyes and don't have your glasses on. But ill do you a favor and explain what has happend.
The first person (as you can see in the quote above this) says there are 8 classes.
My reply (which is the 2nd quote) is that there are 9 classes not 8.
And then i said there are 10 classes in wotkl but it is not yet in wow. So yea thats why I said in the end 10 classes and the first time I said 9. Because there are no 10 classes yet. This is what they call predicting the future.
So to sum it all up. In wow there are 9 classes. Not 8.
first of there squig herder and hunter
euhm rogue = witch elf
(fire)mage = bright wizard
(totems) shaman = rune priest
(prot)paladin= chosen
warlock = (not 100% sure but i think magus is the dotter)
(prot) warrior = black orc
death knight = tank of high elf (mainly because its more a spell tank)
(resto) shaman (shadow) priest = shaman
(resto) druid (holy) priest and (holy paladin) = zaelot and archmage
the ones i can't place is engineer, white lion, warrior priest, disciple of khain and the sorceress
mainly because engineer is mostly direct damage and turrets
and white lion is the new kind of class (melee dps + pet!!)
and warrior priest and discple of khain have some similarities as a melee shaman from wow but they can heal alot better
sorceress basicly is the caster that does serious damage but at high risks (not sure about the risk but i think they can damage themselfs)
Seems like warrior priest would be more like palidin and chosen would be more like death night. I don't think chosens can heal right? And a shaman in war?
WP old school dnd cleric.
Since i am bored and alot of you are trying hard to deny the fact that warhammer is a mirrior image of WoW in terms of class i will break it down for you all. A lot of you seem to be out right ignoring talent trees, WoW has 9 classes, and trees for each classes, which makes at a minimum 27 classes, since every tree is very different, and the amount of builds we can say, 50 or 60, since a lot of them are just comman practice.
Alright lets get started.
Arms Warrior - Swordmaster(light elf)
Fury Warrior - Choppa(wouldve been if mythic didnt get lazy)
Protection Warrior - ( this is basic tank, Swordmaster, Black Orc, Iron Breaker all fall under this except chosen)
Arcane Mage - Archmage
Fire Mage - Bright Wizard
Frost Mage -
Holy Paladin - War Priest
Retribution Paladin - Chosen
Protection Paladin - Chosen
Dicipline priest - There is no outright buff class
Holy Priest - There is no outright heal class
Shadow Priest - Zeolet, Disciple of Khaine
Beast Hunter - White Lion, Squig Hearder
Marksman hunter - Shadow Warrior
Survival - Shadow Warrior, Witch hunter, Engineer
Affliction Warlock - Sorceress
Demonology Warlock - Magus
Destruction Warlock - Bright Wizard, Sorceress
Assassination Rogue - Witch Elf
Combat Rogue - Witch Hunter
Subtelty Rogue - Wtch Hunter, Witch elf
Elemental Shaman - Archmage, Shaman
Restoration Shaman - Rune Priest
Enhancement shaman - Disciple of Kaine, War Priest
Druid - No druid. could probably stretch maraduer but it would be a long stretch.
Agree or disagree, once you play the game you will see for yourself. There isnt much difference, there may be some hybrids but the only class close t being unique is Marauder.
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It doesn't bother me if classes are similar or even basicly the same.
Right down to having abilities that are text for text the same as abilities in this one other game.
The only thing I really would care about is.. If the game was fun to play or not.
Since I have never played WOW all I can say from reading your post
- WOW - 9 classes each having 3 talent trees giving 50 or 60 builds.
- WAR - 20 classes each having 3 talent trees giving ????? builds. Using your formula 20 * 3 * 3 = 120 builds.
So how is that a mirror image?
WOW has 9 unique classes that play totally different from eachother with 3 talent trees to go down different paths. WAR has 4 archetypes where each class in that archetype plays similar but has 3 talent tree type things to spend points in.
Nope
Hmm, it almost sounds that there are no true hybrids. Are there any classes that you can DPS or heal depending on the spec or are you stuck in one dimensional roles?
I don't think you can track class equivalencies except at a very high level in terms of play style. Let me explain as follows
WAR has the following archtypes: Tank, Melee DPS, Ranged DPS, Healing. Each class is based on one of these archtypes, but the archtype is implemented differently for each class. Furthermore with each of the 20 classes having 3 talent trees that are class specific there is a much greater potential set of variations that can be built in WAR over WoW. That being said, can someone take a WAR class and build it such a way as to make it mimic a WoW class' common play style, yes I think they could, but I don't agree with the assumption that everyone will do that. If you come over from WoW to WAR and expect everyone to spec and play the same as the WoW classes you are used to facing, I think you are going to be very surprised at the result.
For example if you think a Dwarven Engineer (aka Ranged DPS) is going to play like a WoW hunter, you will be very surprised when they start beating you down with their potential short range/melee spec.
Also the WAR Tanks and Ranged DPS can be built around a point defense spec which really isn't built into the WoW class designs. What point defense strategy is the same when there is no enemy collision detection in WoW like there is in WAR. This is not proprietary information, check out the Gamespy.com hands on preview to understand what I'm saying.
I hope this helps.
there is 9 classes
warrior
rogue
shaman
paladin
mage
warlock
druid
hunter
priest
and 1 more that counts as 10
death knight
i dont care how many classes there is in wow, i know for sure there isn't 20
and that war is a far superior game.
On their base levels you can line up WAR classes with WoW classes but to be honest they work so different they're really not alike, WAR"s classes are far more versitle. Dessert's assesment is somewhat close on the basic level except the Archmage is a HEALER not a Damage Caster / Arcane Mage.
I'd refute the rest but it'd be breaking the NDA ..(damn it).
I find the WAR classes are more viable and enjoyable than all the WoW classes. They arent' copies of WoW classes like some would presume, these classes actually exist in the Warhammer World.
20 WAR classes .. 10 essentially unique mechanics. 3 Different Career Mastery Paths for each of the 20 classes. Add to that Morale & Tactics & Stat packages players can buy or find or unlock and it blows away anything WoW has done for how to customize your toons career wise.
*smacks forhead* all the WAR classes are Hybrids!! lol Maybe you need to read www.warhammeronline.com check out all the career mastery paths.