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After playing WAR and reading about WAR and seeing gameplay movies do you believe WAR could hit a healthy subscription mark to stay healthy and be around for a few years?
Lets say healthy is around 500k to one million subs.
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If the buggy, not tested AoC had sold 750k+ copies, War can easily sell 1.5m+ copies.
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It will be the second largest MMO on the market sitting comfortably over 500k subs after it's first year and I would bet every penny I had on that. Who knows it might break a million in it's first year, only time will tell.
But I don't really care, it's a great game that I will be playing for a while even if it only had enough subs to fill one server. As long as there people to play with I'll be happy.
I think it will do very well. I am in the beta and it is an awesome game, lots of fun. People who are looking for something different than WoW would find a lot to be happy about with WAR.
I certainly couldn't predict any numbers here. There are just too many mixed reviews of this game now. Though I would imagine because of the hype it will get close to what AOC had then fall down to just average numbers as time rolls on.
I say this because the game is not bringing anything new to mmos. It just takes what is out there and does it in a different fashion but you get the same result. People already had RVR experiences with DAOC so this is nothing new. Unless you are really hyped up on public quests and the tome of knowledge then we arent seeing anything revoloutionary here. I am sure some will find it fun but I am really questioning the replayability of this game.
as a wise man once said "It's the same 'ol, same 'ol situation, same 'ol ball and chain"
this game doesn't offer anything new or innovative in terms of game play. you might as well go back to playing DAoC
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if a bug ridden, horribly balanced game can get 750k box sales....this game should have no issue
Here is the thing: Only so many people out of the subscription pie have ever heard of, much less played, DAoC. Sorry, but lets be realistic.
What we should be comparing this to is WoW, in which case it will offer a whole hell of a lot of improvement on all levels, no exaggeration.Not to mention the step from WoW to WAR seems to be pretty comfortable.
I'll throw in my lot with the 500k-1mil numbers in a year with the other person.
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Don't understand why people always want something revolutionary and new. Most of the time, when someone tries it, they fail, and then we rub it in. Or at least we say "props to them for trying, but this game still sucks". Then we go back to saying, "Damn why don't companies try anything new?" (Of course, not everyone does this, but many do...)
WAR isn't trying to be revolutionary, it wants to be a fun game...not the second coming of MMOs that will put you into a world so engaging that you won't leave your computer for three days (can't believe some people actually want that!)
I think WAR's taking what's out there and improving on it, or at least putting their spin on it - their spin happens to be more fun for many people. So what if it's not "new"? It's old concepts used in a different pattern. It's like using Lego blocks to build a giant life-size Darth Vader. You could easily use those blocks to build something else, they're still the same blocks. However, whether the Darth Vader or something else is better depends on each person.
Of course WAR isn't for everyone but I think it'll be a competitor. It will dominate the market alongside WoW.
Well since you only had yes or no I had to say yes, no means basically none in your poll and 500k-mill is alittle too much for release. I said yes but I'm thinking a good healthy 250k-300k
Paul Barnett i reckon will have egg on his face: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38463.html
Because of the PR they will sell 1.1 million box sales in the first month.
on the 3rd month it will drop to around 600k active subs
6 months later there will be around 250k - 350k subs when people find the repetition is too much in a world that resets all the time.
What you said is exactly true. But it is a good thing, or a neutral thing, nothing bad. Everyone thinks that having a multimillion sub game makes it the best....IMO its a great game but not based on sales...Americans these days...:/
What you said is exactly true. But it is a good thing, or a neutral thing, nothing bad. Everyone thinks that having a multimillion sub game makes it the best....IMO its a great game but not based on sales...Americans these days...:/
I agree with you. For me its how fun a game is with content to keep me - sales figures, sub rumours, tracking stats etc dont have any effect on whether the game is fun or not.
I think people should have the warhammer experience, i'm all for advancement of the genre, I think with war though it lets me personally down in some area's.
Are you saying that Warhammer is just DAoC but with new graphics? If so, then why would anyone go back to something old that only needed updating graphically?
What are people expecting? There's only so much an MMO can offer, and PvP is all I want. So, if it's got that, then I'm happy!
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Sorry, but the repitition isn't really that bad since everything involves other players. Not to mention there is something random or added in, like an event, that always breathes life into each scenario or PQ, what ever.
Now lets take a cold hard look at WoW. Now that is freaking tedious, tedious, BS and they seem to be doing well enough.
WAR is going to do well.
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See, this is how a REAL gamer should be, dont care about sales, just fun. If you were a company all you care is about sales, but if your a gamer. talking about it is as useless as talking about how sky blue is better than bright blue.
Well if they have a higher number of consistent subs, they will do better, which means more and better things for WAR sooner. Not to mention that it have the same affect on their other project which I am also looking forward to.
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See, this is how a REAL gamer should be, dont care about sales, just fun. If you were a company all you care is about sales, but if your a gamer. talking about it is as useless as talking about how sky blue is better than bright blue.
But what else are we going to speculate about prior to launch? There's nothing wrong with trying to predict sales/subs, even if it's meaningless...
I do agree with you though.
Well there's nothing wrong with talking about it, but what I mean is that people say THIS GAME WILL OWNZ JUST LIKE MY PIE SHE MAKES ME WHILE I SLEEP IN HER BASEMENT! It's basically all you really talk about before release. Bad habit. But that also inspires trolls, by predicting the future. But hwen you try finding out the future you change it o.o....WTH am I talking about again?... did that make any sense/...
I'd say around 1 mil at launch and less than 500k after 6 months.
Kinda funny how these predictions actually will be true unless the devs and etc. start adding more content, which I am confident that they will, and if they do they will have more money to add more contect etc. Lets just hope they read these forums/use these ideas
Well there's nothing wrong with talking about it, but what I mean is that people say THIS GAME WILL OWNZ JUST LIKE MY PIE SHE MAKES ME WHILE I SLEEP IN HER BASEMENT! It's basically all you really talk about before release. Bad habit. But that also inspires trolls, by predicting the future. But hwen you try finding out the future you change it o.o....WTH am I talking about again?... did that make any sense/...
Now that NDA is lifted the beta testers can feel more free to make educated predictions .
i wonder how many subs aoc will have at war launch
yes this was a post
lol Actually for once I like this post ^^ I actually despise AoC now so much I would buy it just to shut it down....maybe that will make me president?... O.o