Just asking in case I misunderstood you. You said, "In anycase I dont think a crush is based on emotion. I liked the crush being related to fantasy because that really seems to be the case. " So you have a crush on an avatar? You should lay off the dope for awhile.
If you read the whole thread you should have noticed that Gorair ( And thanks again Gorair and thanks to your wife for that keen insight) mentioned that having a crush was a fantasy scenario. I was refering to that. Maybe you need to lay off the dope sos ya can read better I do not have a crush on an avatar (that's the same as saying 'toon' or 'character' right?). that would be....odd but im sure stranger things have happened.
A very wise man once told me that it's cheating if you can't tell your significant other about it.
I am a firm believer in the notion that you cannot generate any true feelings over the Internet, unless you've actually met the person and spent time with them in the real world. Anything you might 'feel' is just an illusion. Of course I am a cold, withdrawn man who focuses on college and career to the exclusion of a personal life, so maybe I'm not qualified to give an opinion.
Just asking in case I misunderstood you. You said, "In anycase I dont think a crush is based on emotion. I liked the crush being related to fantasy because that really seems to be the case. " So you have a crush on an avatar? You should lay off the dope for awhile.
If you read the whole thread you should have noticed that Gorair ( And thanks again Gorair and thanks to your wife for that keen insight) mentioned that having a crush was a fantasy scenario. I was refering to that. Maybe you need to lay off the dope sos ya can read better I do not have a crush on an avatar (that's the same as saying 'toon' or 'character' right?). that would be....odd but im sure stranger things have happened.
If you want to get defensive about it. Here ya go.
1. Your married. Apparently to some extent its gone a tad farther than just thinking about some fantasy. Does your wife know about this? I bet not since after all your actually communicating with this person.
2. You have a crush on someone you think is a woman but have never seen them before. Only their avatar from what I gathered. weird
3. You come to the forums to post about your weird fetish that would probably get you divorced.
4. You also seem to appear to be asking if your actually messed up in the head. Why else would you be posting it? even weirder
If you can't take someones comments like mine and let them roll off your sleeves I don't think you should be posting about your fetishes on a forum.
If you haven't actually met this person or seen this person then how do you not have a crush on their avatar. You simply do not know who the hell they are.. Only who they say they are. Avatar.
Heh yeah dont belive for a second that i havent thought about that (her not being a real her). I didnt know it was a she for several months actually. We don't generally have any conversations where gender is even alluded to. You never know whos on the other end but, She's the most giving person in the guild . it could still be a ruse but its not a ruse to get anything from me . theres also absolutly no flirting going on cept for some extremely subtle hints that i appreciate her...existence. No flirting from her. Our conversations are only as friends.
One of my favorite quotes that i dont know who said: "The internet, where men are men. and women are men. and children are FBI agents"
You mean you don't have a picture yet? And then maybe some other evidence to prove it( social networking site that links to same email, thrid party confirmation, or a legitimate VOIP conversation). Otherwise you might as well be fantasizing over a chat bot.
It's human to feel this way but its not normal to not be skeptical that this person isn't saying who "she" says "she" is. Furthermore: what if this woman is extremley unnattractive to you? Maybe you would be happier with your wife? What if whatever you thought "she" looked like was the exact opposite? It could also be a guy stroking his meat while you guys talk --- get that picture in your head and you might reconsider that pain in your chest.
I dont think there is anything wrong with following your heart. If you don't leave your wife for this entity it sounds like you will eventually find someone to leave her for. Staying with her, shes going to be as miserable as you are. Just don't be a total wierdo and blindly accept that this person is who they say they are.
Heh yeah dont belive for a second that i havent thought about that (her not being a real her). I didnt know it was a she for several months actually. We don't generally have any conversations where gender is even alluded to. You never know whos on the other end but, She's the most giving person in the guild . it could still be a ruse but its not a ruse to get anything from me . theres also absolutly no flirting going on cept for some extremely subtle hints that i appreciate her...existence. No flirting from her. Our conversations are only as friends.
One of my favorite quotes that i dont know who said: "The internet, where men are men. and women are men. and children are FBI agents"
You mean you don't have a picture yet? And then maybe some other evidence to prove it( social networking site that links to same email, thrid party confirmation, or a legitimate VOIP conversation). Otherwise you might as well be fantasizing over a chat bot.
It's human to feel this way but its not normal to not be skeptical that this person isn't saying who "she" says "she" is. Furthermore: what if this woman is extremley unnattractive to you? Maybe you would be happier with your wife? What if whatever you thought "she" looked like was the exact opposite? It could also be a guy stroking his meat while you guys talk --- get that picture in your head and you might reconsider that pain in your chest.
I dont think there is anything wrong with following your heart. If you don't leave your wife for this entity it sounds like you will eventually find someone to leave her for. Staying with her, shes going to be as miserable as you are. Just don't be a total wierdo and blindly accept that this person is who they say they are.
Not to mention this person might be a minor.... Mr. Over the top names himself crushhog, first post is about having a crush on someone who he has no visual reference to, hasn't even heard their real voice, asking people what they think for whatever reason. Weird. W-E-I-R-D.
I know I acted like an ass to him in my second post in this thread. But come on wtf is he thinking. This could get him into quite a bit of trouble if things are not what they appear to be and it goes to far. Common sense. He is not using it. He is thinking with his other head. I don't know how in this case but he sure seems to be. LoL!
Anyways. I'll shutup. I have been enough of an ass.
A very wise man once told me that it's cheating if you can't tell your significant other about it.
I am a firm believer in the notion that you cannot generate any true feelings over the Internet, unless you've actually met the person and spent time with them in the real world. Anything you might 'feel' is just an illusion. Of course I am a cold, withdrawn man who focuses on college and career to the exclusion of a personal life, so maybe I'm not qualified to give an opinion.
Yes that is wise. I believe there is emotional cheating but Im not sure im doing that. I'll explain why elswhere. To play devils advocate one might say that a long distance exchange of ideas is the only way to assure a true spiritual connection as your feelings cannot be swayed or warped by physical attraction. From the research and soul searching ive been doing the past day or so your comment about feeling an illusion is spot on. As long as your human and have the capacity for thought you are qualified to give opinions. thanks.
Originally posted by JayBirdz If you want to get defensive about it. Here ya go.
1. Your married. Apparently to some extent its gone a tad farther than just thinking about some fantasy. Does your wife know about this? I bet not since after all your actually communicating with this person.
2. You have a crush on someone you think is a woman but have never seen them before. Only their avatar from what I gathered. weird
3. You come to the forums to post about your weird fetish that would probably get you divorced.
4. You also seem to appear to be asking if your actually messed up in the head. Why else would you be posting it? even weirder
If you can't take someones comments like mine and let them roll off your sleeves I don't think you should be posting about your fetishes on a forum.
If you haven't actually met this person or seen this person then how do you not have a crush on their avatar. You simply do not know who the hell they are.. Only who they say they are. Avatar.
1. know she doesnt. my first post said as much.
2. doesnt have anything to do with the avatar. really I promise its more the communication between us. This isnt like having a crush on a movie star or some chick your too embaressed to talk to, it's suddenly getting a crush on someone whos just a friend.
3. that's just flat out true.
4. Posting was for two reasons mainly. As a hopefully cathartic release and too see if anyone had any good advice on getting rid of an irrational crush.
Your comments did role of my sleeve, I turned the dope comment on you for fun. I put a smiley on it..
Maybe you were a being a bit jerky but it didnt bother me. I appreciate the insights if not the sentiment with which they were posted. thanks.
You mean you don't have a picture yet? And then maybe some other evidence to prove it( social networking site that links to same email, thrid party confirmation, or a legitimate VOIP conversation). Otherwise you might as well be fantasizing over a chat bot. It's human to feel this way but its not normal to not be skeptical that this person isn't saying who "she" says "she" is. Furthermore: what if this woman is extremley unnattractive to you? Maybe you would be happier with your wife? What if whatever you thought "she" looked like was the exact opposite? It could also be a guy stroking his meat while you guys talk --- get that picture in your head and you might reconsider that pain in your chest. I dont think there is anything wrong with following your heart. If you don't leave your wife for this entity it sounds like you will eventually find someone to leave her for. Staying with her, shes going to be as miserable as you are. Just don't be a total wierdo and blindly accept that this person is who they say they are.
LOL holy crap I laughed at that comment about reconsidering the pain my chest. Thanks, and your right of course.
Back in SWG, there were tons of ppl pairing off when the game was socially strong (before CU and NGE)
SL is MADE for meeting people online.
NOw.... as for some of the comments.
Before the internet there was actual ppl meeting through only letters and mail. The net is just a more expedient version of this same method. People fell in love before ever seeing a pic. And it DOES happen on SL every day (and no they're not all emotionally wack people, quite the opposite because people are tired of the same old lame ways of picking up a significant other.....the fantasy makes it very interesting...but I digress)
To those that say "it's prolly a dude"...LOL.... There are PLENTY of women playing the same game as you. I have been playing MMO's for a few years now and EVERY "woman" I met and became good friends with turned out to be a woman. The ones that were guys came out and admitted it when friendships got moving along and everything was cool. No big deal. (Well, unless you're a guy that flirts blatantly before you get to know a person ! lol...talk about red faced eh? LOL)
I have always translated my MMO friendships into real life. I've had guild meet ups where a dozen of us met once in Dallas and partied for a weekend....GREAT times. nobody turned out to be someone other than how they represented themself. (Though it's sad to say that some do lie about who they are...those are the emotionally messed up ones if you ask me)
I met my current Girl on SL for the record. We're happy in love and have spent many a night just in game together as it provides another layer of interaction that just typing or talking can't provide. (Now we play AoC together which is fun too)
all the above is just thoughts, nothing more....
now.... all that being said...sounds like you don't want to damage your marriage. A good choice. crossing a line is crossing a line no matter what medium you use. I don't suppose you can get your wife interested in playing this game with you can ya? (I know that can be a challenge for some ladies who hate games)
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
This will be my last post on the matter I think. Thank you all. <EDIT>
Blah blah blah blah... I wrote it and that helped me but im pulling a waterlily. You dont need to see what I wrote.
NM
GL on the matter Crushhog my apologies for coming off like an ass. I was kinda peaved about something else. Just saw your post and I jumped the gun. Just becarefull if you deciede to take this thing farther like other have said, since you know only what you have been told.
P.S. Thought about doing the nm after I posted what I did earlier in the thread. But meh , I can't take words back in RL so no sense for me to do it on a forum. On a side note I was really curious what waterlilly's nm was about. She's been doing that alittle bit lately. I get some good laughs from her blunt comments. Like "holy phuck i can't believe she just said that." lol!
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Yeah, but SL is even more of a repository for emotionally-damaged freaks than these forums, so I don't think that's a good example.
If you read the whole thread you should have noticed that Gorair ( And thanks again Gorair and thanks to your wife for that keen insight) mentioned that having a crush was a fantasy scenario. I was refering to that. Maybe you need to lay off the dope sos ya can read better
I do not have a crush on an avatar (that's the same as saying 'toon' or 'character' right?). that would be....odd but im sure stranger things have happened.
A very wise man once told me that it's cheating if you can't tell your significant other about it.
I am a firm believer in the notion that you cannot generate any true feelings over the Internet, unless you've actually met the person and spent time with them in the real world. Anything you might 'feel' is just an illusion. Of course I am a cold, withdrawn man who focuses on college and career to the exclusion of a personal life, so maybe I'm not qualified to give an opinion.
If you read the whole thread you should have noticed that Gorair ( And thanks again Gorair and thanks to your wife for that keen insight) mentioned that having a crush was a fantasy scenario. I was refering to that. Maybe you need to lay off the dope sos ya can read better
I do not have a crush on an avatar (that's the same as saying 'toon' or 'character' right?). that would be....odd but im sure stranger things have happened.
If you want to get defensive about it. Here ya go.
1. Your married. Apparently to some extent its gone a tad farther than just thinking about some fantasy. Does your wife know about this? I bet not since after all your actually communicating with this person.
2. You have a crush on someone you think is a woman but have never seen them before. Only their avatar from what I gathered. weird
3. You come to the forums to post about your weird fetish that would probably get you divorced.
4. You also seem to appear to be asking if your actually messed up in the head. Why else would you be posting it? even weirder
If you can't take someones comments like mine and let them roll off your sleeves I don't think you should be posting about your fetishes on a forum.
If you haven't actually met this person or seen this person then how do you not have a crush on their avatar. You simply do not know who the hell they are.. Only who they say they are. Avatar.
Do what you think feels right. Just remember your wife and maybe treasure her more than you do now. You don't know what you have until it's gone.
Yeah, but SL is even more of a repository for emotionally-damaged freaks than these forums, so I don't think that's a good example.
Yes, you seem to be a well balanced nice person
You mean you don't have a picture yet? And then maybe some other evidence to prove it( social networking site that links to same email, thrid party confirmation, or a legitimate VOIP conversation). Otherwise you might as well be fantasizing over a chat bot.
It's human to feel this way but its not normal to not be skeptical that this person isn't saying who "she" says "she" is. Furthermore: what if this woman is extremley unnattractive to you? Maybe you would be happier with your wife? What if whatever you thought "she" looked like was the exact opposite? It could also be a guy stroking his meat while you guys talk --- get that picture in your head and you might reconsider that pain in your chest.
I dont think there is anything wrong with following your heart. If you don't leave your wife for this entity it sounds like you will eventually find someone to leave her for. Staying with her, shes going to be as miserable as you are. Just don't be a total wierdo and blindly accept that this person is who they say they are.
Don't it always seem to go...
You mean you don't have a picture yet? And then maybe some other evidence to prove it( social networking site that links to same email, thrid party confirmation, or a legitimate VOIP conversation). Otherwise you might as well be fantasizing over a chat bot.
It's human to feel this way but its not normal to not be skeptical that this person isn't saying who "she" says "she" is. Furthermore: what if this woman is extremley unnattractive to you? Maybe you would be happier with your wife? What if whatever you thought "she" looked like was the exact opposite? It could also be a guy stroking his meat while you guys talk --- get that picture in your head and you might reconsider that pain in your chest.
I dont think there is anything wrong with following your heart. If you don't leave your wife for this entity it sounds like you will eventually find someone to leave her for. Staying with her, shes going to be as miserable as you are. Just don't be a total wierdo and blindly accept that this person is who they say they are.
Not to mention this person might be a minor.... Mr. Over the top names himself crushhog, first post is about having a crush on someone who he has no visual reference to, hasn't even heard their real voice, asking people what they think for whatever reason. Weird. W-E-I-R-D.
I know I acted like an ass to him in my second post in this thread. But come on wtf is he thinking. This could get him into quite a bit of trouble if things are not what they appear to be and it goes to far. Common sense. He is not using it. He is thinking with his other head. I don't know how in this case but he sure seems to be. LoL!
Anyways. I'll shutup. I have been enough of an ass.
Yes that is wise. I believe there is emotional cheating but Im not sure im doing that. I'll explain why elswhere. To play devils advocate one might say that a long distance exchange of ideas is the only way to assure a true spiritual connection as your feelings cannot be swayed or warped by physical attraction. From the research and soul searching ive been doing the past day or so your comment about feeling an illusion is spot on. As long as your human and have the capacity for thought you are qualified to give opinions. thanks.
1. know she doesnt. my first post said as much.
2. doesnt have anything to do with the avatar. really I promise
its more the communication between us. This isnt like having a crush on a movie star or some chick your too embaressed to talk to, it's suddenly getting a crush on someone whos just a friend.
3. that's just flat out true.
4. Posting was for two reasons mainly. As a hopefully cathartic release and too see if anyone had any good advice on getting rid of an irrational crush.
Your comments did role of my sleeve, I turned the dope comment on you for fun. I put a smiley on it..
Maybe you were a being a bit jerky but it didnt bother me. I appreciate the insights if not the sentiment with which they were posted. thanks.
3.
LOL holy crap I laughed at that comment about reconsidering the pain my chest. Thanks, and your right of course.
I could not resist this thread... lol
Back in SWG, there were tons of ppl pairing off when the game was socially strong (before CU and NGE)
SL is MADE for meeting people online.
NOw.... as for some of the comments.
Before the internet there was actual ppl meeting through only letters and mail. The net is just a more expedient version of this same method. People fell in love before ever seeing a pic. And it DOES happen on SL every day (and no they're not all emotionally wack people, quite the opposite because people are tired of the same old lame ways of picking up a significant other.....the fantasy makes it very interesting...but I digress)
To those that say "it's prolly a dude"...LOL.... There are PLENTY of women playing the same game as you. I have been playing MMO's for a few years now and EVERY "woman" I met and became good friends with turned out to be a woman. The ones that were guys came out and admitted it when friendships got moving along and everything was cool. No big deal. (Well, unless you're a guy that flirts blatantly before you get to know a person ! lol...talk about red faced eh? LOL)
I have always translated my MMO friendships into real life. I've had guild meet ups where a dozen of us met once in Dallas and partied for a weekend....GREAT times. nobody turned out to be someone other than how they represented themself. (Though it's sad to say that some do lie about who they are...those are the emotionally messed up ones if you ask me)
I met my current Girl on SL for the record. We're happy in love and have spent many a night just in game together as it provides another layer of interaction that just typing or talking can't provide. (Now we play AoC together which is fun too)
all the above is just thoughts, nothing more....
now.... all that being said...sounds like you don't want to damage your marriage. A good choice. crossing a line is crossing a line no matter what medium you use. I don't suppose you can get your wife interested in playing this game with you can ya? (I know that can be a challenge for some ladies who hate games)
All the best to OP.
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This will be my last post on the matter I think. Thank you all. <EDIT>
Blah blah blah blah... I wrote it and that helped me but im pulling a waterlily. You dont need to see what I wrote.
NM
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
GL on the matter Crushhog my apologies for coming off like an ass. I was kinda peaved about something else. Just saw your post and I jumped the gun. Just becarefull if you deciede to take this thing farther like other have said, since you know only what you have been told.
P.S. Thought about doing the nm after I posted what I did earlier in the thread. But meh , I can't take words back in RL so no sense for me to do it on a forum.
On a side note I was really curious what waterlilly's nm was about. She's been doing that alittle bit lately. I get some good laughs from her blunt comments. Like "holy phuck i can't believe she just said that." lol!
Anyways.....