I thought the Chaos Lord walking through the gate then summoning the dragon to come through was more impressive then the dragon in LK.
That wasn't a Dragon, it was a Lord of Change (Highest Demon).
I know, dragon was just the word I thnk could best describe to people who didn't know what that was.
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Witch of the 2 new trailers is the best? I dont want to compare the games just the trailer.. i dont play either game so dont really care Just curious what ppl think about the trailers.
WoW:
WAR:
Nobody beats Blizzard in cinematic trailers. Nobody.
Originally posted by Arndur I thought the Chaos Lord walking through the gate then summoning the dragon to come through was more impressive then the dragon in LK.
That wasn't a Dragon, it was a Lord of Change (Highest Demon).
Who is the destruction knight(or what he is), that stood before the lord of change came out? Is he the King of destruction side or something? Or?
The Wotlk one was good in an artisitic sense, but if I knew nothing about WoW it would not sell the game to me. Nothing really happened that told me of what the game is, and it was not particually exiciting as someone else said I was waiting for the action to start. But its an expansion so it is not surprising, most people buying it will be fans already and know what to expect.
Warhammer online trailer was also good, but I half expected them to start talking about mount doom, frodo and all that stuff because it is a incredibly cliche storyline along the same lines of lotr/high fantasy fiction (WoW is the same but I am talking of what comes across in the trailer). But the trailer itself is very good and is much more informative about what the game is, was quite a lot of humour in it as well.
I would say the Warhammer online one is better, but as has been said this is a full game. It should be better, it is meant to sell a new game to us rather than sell an expansion to a established game.
Originally posted by Nitrius Originally posted by -aLpHa- Originally posted by Arndur I thought the Chaos Lord walking through the gate then summoning the dragon to come through was more impressive then the dragon in LK.
That wasn't a Dragon, it was a Lord of Change (Highest Demon).
Who is the destruction knight(or what he is), that stood before the lord of change came out? Is he the King of destruction side or something? Or?
theyre both really good, but made in two different styles. WoW is much more like a trailer for a movie, with a strong musical background and large shots, with a long narration. WAR is much more direct and shows the different abilities for the classes, so I would say WAR is more akin to a traditional video game trailer.
I was really excited when I saw that the WotLK trailer was out, but as a previous poster said, it left me sadly underwhelmed. I remember when TBC came out and the opening trailer literally gave me goosebumps. WotlK did nothing of the sort.
WAR on the other hand has a great video - lots of action and although the CG isn't *quite* up to Blizzards standards it was still fantastic to watch. It's just a terrible shame that the game doesn't come anywhere near to the frenetic and exciting action that the video depicts.
Why? It has a story. Not some mindless bashing of eachother. The WOTLK intro movie has a interesting story. It makes people who do enjoy reading quests wonder what is going to happen.
The WAR Trailer is nothing special. I mean, sure its fun how the little goblin get's eaten by it's pet. But.. so what?
What does it tell you? Both movies are totaly different. One is epic because of the fights, and the other one is epic because of the story it has to tell and the asumptions that are able to be made from it.
WAR trailer is more like a Rambo movie
WOTLK is more like a well.. something bit more intellegent.
Why? It has a story. Not some mindless bashing of eachother. The WOTLK intro movie has a interesting story. It makes people who do enjoy reading quests wonder what is going to happen.
The WAR Trailer is nothing special. I mean, sure its fun how the little goblin get's eaten by it's pet. But.. so what?
What does it tell you? Both movies are totaly different. One is epic because of the fights, and the other one is epic because of the story it has to tell and the asumptions that are able to be made from it.
WAR trailer is more like a Rambo movie WOTLK is more like a well.. something bit more intellegent.
In all fairness, if someone had never played WC3 (and I sure there are quite alot of folks espically the younger crowd that got into WOW after the games, and the older crowd some on which did not get into WOW until after WOW became popular) would not get what is going in it that trailer. It really depends on having knowledge of what happened in WC3.
I would say that Blizzard ruined the lore with World of Warcraft. Prince Arthas should be the last enemy in Warcraft 4, but now that World of Warcraft run out of super villains we end up with this. What did we see in the trailer from Blizzard?, nothing really.
War caught the essen of the gameplay there is waiting. Massive battle, castle/keep siege, etc.
Anyone who voted WoW, I'd love to hear your reasoning.
WAR displayed the game, it's class, it's purpose. Huge castle seige with great little skirmishes.
WoW's was just Arthas' father talking while Arthas walked around. Arthas is cool but he's just a knight turned evil in a cartoon world. I give it a 2/10 (+1 for quality).
Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss Anyone who voted WoW, I'd love to hear your reasoning. WAR displayed the game, it's class, it's purpose. Huge castle seige with great little skirmishes. WoW's was just Arthas' father talking while Arthas walked around. Arthas is cool but he's just a knight turned evil in a cartoon world. I give it a 2/10 (+1 for quality).
Simply because Blizzard makes amazing cinematics and it explains some of the backstory of why and how Arthas turned into the Lich King; no reason the cinematic should explain classes or other such mechanics, everyone already knows what WLK brings to the table.
Midnitte, have you NOT played Warcraft 3's Expansion?
Look folks, MMO Cinematics are suppose to showcase something of the players and for the players. To showcase a cinematic about Arthas is reserved for single-player games. I'm sorry, but The Burning Crusade cinematic did WAY more than this cinematic did. It screamed epic. This cinematic is just... okay, so Arthas wield Frostmourne--- and? The father's little speech wasn't even touching--- it was-- cliche.
Originally posted by argos5 Midnitte, have you NOT played Warcraft 3's Expansion?
Look folks, MMO Cinematics are suppose to showcase something of the players and for the players. To showcase a cinematic about Arthas is reserved for single-player games. I'm sorry, but The Burning Crusade cinematic did WAY more than this cinematic did. It screamed epic. This cinematic is just... okay, so Arthas wield Frostmourne--- and? The father's little speech wasn't even touching--- it was-- cliche.
I've played both why? Did you not see the BC cinematic?
That dragon he raised plays an important part in the the expansion, as does Arthas and Frostmourne.
Midnitte, have you NOT played Warcraft 3's Expansion?
Look folks, MMO Cinematics are suppose to showcase something of the players and for the players. To showcase a cinematic about Arthas is reserved for single-player games. I'm sorry, but The Burning Crusade cinematic did WAY more than this cinematic did. It screamed epic. This cinematic is just... okay, so Arthas wield Frostmourne--- and? The father's little speech wasn't even touching--- it was-- cliche.
I've played both why? Did you not see the BC cinematic?
That dragon he raised plays an important part in the the expansion, as does Arthas and Frostmourne.
This is an MMO. MMO Cinematics (i repeat) are suppose to showcase something OF the players and FOR the players. This cinematic only showcases Arthas. You're going to already see him so many times in the game anyway. For most players, the "story" doesn't matter to their activity. As long as its exciting and interesting. How many people care what role Ragnaros plays in their Raiding? I care, but I don't think most people would. THey want gear, they want stats, they want to look cool, they want to have fun... reasons and points? No one gives a rip. Like Warsong Gulch--- a flag apparently dictates who controls a lumber milling which the Night Elves oppose... wtf?!
WoW trailer - more of the same, you will be fighting this guy at the end of an instance many times to get an epic item
WAR trailer - shows a good idea of whats to come
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Voted for WoW simply on its artistic and technological merits as a standalone piece of CG
WAR is not bad at all but it just feels cluttered (lets throw everything in there and kill it) and Technicaly not quite as polished. However you might still argue its a better MMO trailer but to me thats not the point.
Anyone who voted WoW, I'd love to hear your reasoning. WAR displayed the game, it's class, it's purpose. Huge castle seige with great little skirmishes. WoW's was just Arthas' father talking while Arthas walked around. Arthas is cool but he's just a knight turned evil in a cartoon world. I give it a 2/10 (+1 for quality).
Because the WoW trailer is emotional and actually reach out for the human part of you. This is a father writing a letter to his son, we do not know at what time this letter was written, but I would say whe Arthas was a child, maybe a teenager but no more.
The voice over is rich with the love of the father for his child and the words are mirrored by what Arthas, the now adult, fatricide lich king, does in the present.
I found it artistic, touching and appropriate, capture the essence of Arthas perfectly.
Yes, they could have done some heavily action oriented movies but THEY DID THAT already with TBC and the original one. They have already showed ALL classes and all races, and beside the death knight, of which Arthas is the pinnacle, there is no new races or classes to show in this expansion, so they focused on the STORY, like this all expansion is about.
The War trailer focus on the characters because they have never shown them before so they have to tell you who these guys with strange hats and bold red hairs are capable of. It tells nothing of the world, the story or anything else, just that there is a lot of fighting.
Action, yes, but very little of the essence of these people. Go back and check the Original WoW trailer, it is full of action but it also show you the Tauren shaman spreading seeds to the wind and the Night elf druid alert and cautious after finding clues of fighting. THAT embodies the essence of those races, Taurens being very nature based and Night Elves having being on the guard for thousands of years.
THAT is missing in the WAR trailer. Great action, yes, but I liked more the original one, it showed the essence of the characters in a more keen way
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I think the burning crusade video was much better then WOTlK. Even if you know nothing about WoW lore, you see the BC video and you know that guy isa fucking badass, i dont know what that guys problem is, but he is pissed off at somebody.
But the lich king video, he just looks like some guy raising skeletons.. some overrated necro, boring.
The war cinimatic was cool up until the sorc using Ice, i dont recall them being able to use ice at all...
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yeah BC cg was so sick illidan's "you are not prepared" made me have shivers the first 200 times i watched it. for wotlk it was just boring i mean yes it was like a wc3 lore thing but i was hoping to hear all must serve the lich king or something a long thoes lines....it was pretty boring to me...WAR on the other hand was over all pretty sweet. i realled liked when the dark efl sorc came in freezeing every body all badass like.. lol well yeah my 2 cents.
Warhammer's trailer was too glorified, imo. In reality, outside of maybe the squig herder being able to go inside of his pet, none of the abilities or scenarios displayed in the trailer remotely exist in the game. Tchar'zanek won't join you in your siege, you won't have moments of 1 on 1, you won't be burning people/freezing them - hell, you'll be lucky if you can even take someone down in under 30 seconds as a damage caster.
The equivalent to this trailer is of course the original WoW trailer, and not the WoTLK trailer. As far as that goes, the original WoW trailer (and TBC trailer) made a point of only displaying things that the players were actually capable, and I never felt as though it had given a false sense of what the game might actually be like. The art was pretty much just a much, much better representation of what is already in the game and outside of the one tauren wielding his totem, every ability used by a player race in that trailer is taken right out of the game.
As for WoTLK's trailer? I think it's about time we returned to the storytelling element of Warcraft, and I'm glad that Blizzard agrees.
As already some above posters said WotlK cg is boring, WAR is entertaining, much better one.
I dont like both games, but cg WoW 7/10 cg WAR 9/10.
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Warhammer's trailer was too glorified, imo. In reality, outside of maybe the squig herder being able to go inside of his pet, none of the abilities or scenarios displayed in the trailer remotely exist in the game. Tchar'zanek won't join you in your siege, you won't have moments of 1 on 1, you won't be burning people/freezing them - hell, you'll be lucky if you can even take someone down in under 30 seconds as a damage caster.
As a Sorceress at full dark magic charge, you can crit someone to death in under 30 seconds. Usually the 3rd or 4th spell. You'd have a large chance of dying from backlash though.
And regards to someone else who said Sorceresses, that they can't use ice. They do. Shadow magic and ice. That's the way they did it on tabletop an that is how I recall them structuring the Sorceress in the Beta.
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That wasn't a Dragon, it was a Lord of Change (Highest Demon).
I know, dragon was just the word I thnk could best describe to people who didn't know what that was.
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Nobody beats Blizzard in cinematic trailers. Nobody.
Who is the destruction knight(or what he is), that stood before the lord of change came out? Is he the King of destruction side or something? Or?
Edit: Nvm, it is this guy right: http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Tchar%27zanek ?
The Wotlk one was good in an artisitic sense, but if I knew nothing about WoW it would not sell the game to me. Nothing really happened that told me of what the game is, and it was not particually exiciting as someone else said I was waiting for the action to start. But its an expansion so it is not surprising, most people buying it will be fans already and know what to expect.
Warhammer online trailer was also good, but I half expected them to start talking about mount doom, frodo and all that stuff because it is a incredibly cliche storyline along the same lines of lotr/high fantasy fiction (WoW is the same but I am talking of what comes across in the trailer). But the trailer itself is very good and is much more informative about what the game is, was quite a lot of humour in it as well.
I would say the Warhammer online one is better, but as has been said this is a full game. It should be better, it is meant to sell a new game to us rather than sell an expansion to a established game.
That wasn't a Dragon, it was a Lord of Change (Highest Demon).
Who is the destruction knight(or what he is), that stood before the lord of change came out? Is he the King of destruction side or something? Or?
Edit: Nvm, it is this guy right: http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Tchar%27zanek ?
Yup, it's Tchar'zanek himself.
theyre both really good, but made in two different styles. WoW is much more like a trailer for a movie, with a strong musical background and large shots, with a long narration. WAR is much more direct and shows the different abilities for the classes, so I would say WAR is more akin to a traditional video game trailer.
Both are excellent.
I was really excited when I saw that the WotLK trailer was out, but as a previous poster said, it left me sadly underwhelmed. I remember when TBC came out and the opening trailer literally gave me goosebumps. WotlK did nothing of the sort.
WAR on the other hand has a great video - lots of action and although the CG isn't *quite* up to Blizzards standards it was still fantastic to watch. It's just a terrible shame that the game doesn't come anywhere near to the frenetic and exciting action that the video depicts.
WOTLK Intro movie
Why? It has a story. Not some mindless bashing of eachother. The WOTLK intro movie has a interesting story. It makes people who do enjoy reading quests wonder what is going to happen.
The WAR Trailer is nothing special. I mean, sure its fun how the little goblin get's eaten by it's pet. But.. so what?
What does it tell you? Both movies are totaly different. One is epic because of the fights, and the other one is epic because of the story it has to tell and the asumptions that are able to be made from it.
WAR trailer is more like a Rambo movie
WOTLK is more like a well.. something bit more intellegent.
Which commercial looks better? Neither, I don't like commercials or any other form of substanceless marketing.
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In all fairness, if someone had never played WC3 (and I sure there are quite alot of folks espically the younger crowd that got into WOW after the games, and the older crowd some on which did not get into WOW until after WOW became popular) would not get what is going in it that trailer. It really depends on having knowledge of what happened in WC3.
I would say that Blizzard ruined the lore with World of Warcraft. Prince Arthas should be the last enemy in Warcraft 4, but now that World of Warcraft run out of super villains we end up with this. What did we see in the trailer from Blizzard?, nothing really.
War caught the essen of the gameplay there is waiting. Massive battle, castle/keep siege, etc.
Anyone who voted WoW, I'd love to hear your reasoning.
WAR displayed the game, it's class, it's purpose. Huge castle seige with great little skirmishes.
WoW's was just Arthas' father talking while Arthas walked around. Arthas is cool but he's just a knight turned evil in a cartoon world. I give it a 2/10 (+1 for quality).
Midnitte, have you NOT played Warcraft 3's Expansion?
Look folks, MMO Cinematics are suppose to showcase something of the players and for the players. To showcase a cinematic about Arthas is reserved for single-player games. I'm sorry, but The Burning Crusade cinematic did WAY more than this cinematic did. It screamed epic. This cinematic is just... okay, so Arthas wield Frostmourne--- and? The father's little speech wasn't even touching--- it was-- cliche.
That dragon he raised plays an important part in the the expansion, as does Arthas and Frostmourne.
That dragon he raised plays an important part in the the expansion, as does Arthas and Frostmourne.
This is an MMO. MMO Cinematics (i repeat) are suppose to showcase something OF the players and FOR the players. This cinematic only showcases Arthas. You're going to already see him so many times in the game anyway. For most players, the "story" doesn't matter to their activity. As long as its exciting and interesting. How many people care what role Ragnaros plays in their Raiding? I care, but I don't think most people would. THey want gear, they want stats, they want to look cool, they want to have fun... reasons and points? No one gives a rip. Like Warsong Gulch--- a flag apparently dictates who controls a lumber milling which the Night Elves oppose... wtf?!
Looks like WAR is winning
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WoW trailer - more of the same, you will be fighting this guy at the end of an instance many times to get an epic item
WAR trailer - shows a good idea of whats to come
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Voted for WoW simply on its artistic and technological merits as a standalone piece of CG
WAR is not bad at all but it just feels cluttered (lets throw everything in there and kill it) and Technicaly not quite as polished. However you might still argue its a better MMO trailer but to me thats not the point.
WAR's cinematic definitely looks better, but that doesn't mean the game itself is better to me.
Because the WoW trailer is emotional and actually reach out for the human part of you. This is a father writing a letter to his son, we do not know at what time this letter was written, but I would say whe Arthas was a child, maybe a teenager but no more.
The voice over is rich with the love of the father for his child and the words are mirrored by what Arthas, the now adult, fatricide lich king, does in the present.
I found it artistic, touching and appropriate, capture the essence of Arthas perfectly.
Yes, they could have done some heavily action oriented movies but THEY DID THAT already with TBC and the original one. They have already showed ALL classes and all races, and beside the death knight, of which Arthas is the pinnacle, there is no new races or classes to show in this expansion, so they focused on the STORY, like this all expansion is about.
The War trailer focus on the characters because they have never shown them before so they have to tell you who these guys with strange hats and bold red hairs are capable of. It tells nothing of the world, the story or anything else, just that there is a lot of fighting.
Action, yes, but very little of the essence of these people. Go back and check the Original WoW trailer, it is full of action but it also show you the Tauren shaman spreading seeds to the wind and the Night elf druid alert and cautious after finding clues of fighting. THAT embodies the essence of those races, Taurens being very nature based and Night Elves having being on the guard for thousands of years.
THAT is missing in the WAR trailer. Great action, yes, but I liked more the original one, it showed the essence of the characters in a more keen way
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I think the burning crusade video was much better then WOTlK. Even if you know nothing about WoW lore, you see the BC video and you know that guy isa fucking badass, i dont know what that guys problem is, but he is pissed off at somebody.
But the lich king video, he just looks like some guy raising skeletons.. some overrated necro, boring.
The war cinimatic was cool up until the sorc using Ice, i dont recall them being able to use ice at all...
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yeah BC cg was so sick illidan's "you are not prepared" made me have shivers the first 200 times i watched it. for wotlk it was just boring i mean yes it was like a wc3 lore thing but i was hoping to hear all must serve the lich king or something a long thoes lines....it was pretty boring to me...WAR on the other hand was over all pretty sweet. i realled liked when the dark efl sorc came in freezeing every body all badass like.. lol well yeah my 2 cents.
Warhammer's trailer was too glorified, imo. In reality, outside of maybe the squig herder being able to go inside of his pet, none of the abilities or scenarios displayed in the trailer remotely exist in the game. Tchar'zanek won't join you in your siege, you won't have moments of 1 on 1, you won't be burning people/freezing them - hell, you'll be lucky if you can even take someone down in under 30 seconds as a damage caster.
The equivalent to this trailer is of course the original WoW trailer, and not the WoTLK trailer. As far as that goes, the original WoW trailer (and TBC trailer) made a point of only displaying things that the players were actually capable, and I never felt as though it had given a false sense of what the game might actually be like. The art was pretty much just a much, much better representation of what is already in the game and outside of the one tauren wielding his totem, every ability used by a player race in that trailer is taken right out of the game.
As for WoTLK's trailer? I think it's about time we returned to the storytelling element of Warcraft, and I'm glad that Blizzard agrees.
As already some above posters said WotlK cg is boring, WAR is entertaining, much better one.
I dont like both games, but cg WoW 7/10 cg WAR 9/10.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
As a Sorceress at full dark magic charge, you can crit someone to death in under 30 seconds. Usually the 3rd or 4th spell. You'd have a large chance of dying from backlash though.
And regards to someone else who said Sorceresses, that they can't use ice. They do. Shadow magic and ice. That's the way they did it on tabletop an that is how I recall them structuring the Sorceress in the Beta.