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Want to know if my laptop can run WAR

KvenTelGhoulKvenTelGhoul Member Posts: 30
in Hardware
Yea my laptop sucks, but then again im poor. I'd like to know if this setup would be able to run WAR atleast on the lowest settings until im able to afford buying a new desktop. Here's the specs:
Toshiba p105
Intel Centrino duo 1.73 dual core
2GB RAM
Intel 945GM express chipset video with up to 128mb shared memory(supports pixel shaders 2.0)

Yea i know its crap compared to whats standard today but its what i have to work with =(

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  • kingfetkingfet Member Posts: 92

    As longa as you have Video HW Transform & Lighting 2.0 you will be fine as far as being able to play it. You have plenty of processor, and you have enough ram. I hope you are running XP and would recommend switching to XP if you are not, because the warhammer/vista combo is going to eat your laptop alive. 

    You will probably have to turn everything to low, and play at a small resolution but it will be playable.

  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444

    You said he has plenty of processor but the min. requirements say you need 2.4 or 2.5 ghz. he only has 1.7.

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    Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions

  • KvenTelGhoulKvenTelGhoul Member Posts: 30
    I'll have to check the specs on the video chipset and see if it has hardware T&L. I have a 1.73 dual core cpu. That means its basicly 1.73x2. It's faster than a 2.5ghz single core. Unfortunately right now im running Ubuntu Gutsy. I have Vista home professional to switch to if i could play on this laptop. Maybe I can find an old xp disc somewhere. Vista is pretty brutal. On a clean install it uses up 1gb of my ram just for all its background applications.

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  • a1csimsa1csims Member UncommonPosts: 24

    you can go to www.systemrequirementslab.com and see if your computer meets min. requirements

  • KvenTelGhoulKvenTelGhoul Member Posts: 30
    Originally posted by a1csims

    you can go to www.systemrequirementslab.com and see if your computer meets min. requirements

    I have gone to that site and it doesn't work properly. Some games that it said I couldn't run I run just fine. It reads my video card as only 32mb even though it could use up to 128

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  • KvenTelGhoulKvenTelGhoul Member Posts: 30
    The chipset does not have hardware T&L. According to Intel :The listed Intel® graphics controllers do not support hardware T&L. T&L can be done by the processor (in software) with acceptable performance in most cases. Oblivion won't run on this computer because it specificaly checks for hardware T&L from the video card in order to run. I guess if WAR checks the same I won't be able to play it.

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  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444
    Originally posted by KvenTelGhoul

    I'll have to check the specs on the video chipset and see if it has hardware T&L. I have a 1.73 dual core cpu. That means its basicly 1.73x2. It's faster than a 2.5ghz single core. Unfortunately right now im running Ubuntu Gutsy. I have Vista home professional to switch to if i could play on this laptop. Maybe I can find an old xp disc somewhere. Vista is pretty brutal. On a clean install it uses up 1gb of my ram just for all its background applications.



     

    I have heard conflicting things about dual being basically x2. I thought it was only true if the game supported multicore processors.

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    "Chemistry: 'We do stuff in lab that would be a felony in your garage.'"

    The most awesomest after school special T-shirt:
    Front: UNO Chemistry Club
    Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions

  • kingfetkingfet Member Posts: 92

    you sir are very wrong, that processor, regardless as to whether it supports dual or not is plenty of processor. Granted it is based off the mobile architecture, and therefore not as big of a work horse as a dual core desktop processor, and cache and fsb are probably lowered to extend battery life, but if you have a single core, more than likely his processor kills yours.

     Its time to embrace the future my friend, please dont bash dual core processors, it really isnt an intelligent thing to do on a hardware forum. You come off as simply ignorant.

    Case in point i see you play eve, i do as well. I was running a P4 3.0ghz with HT, with 3 gigs ram and averaged 40-50fps in classic.

    I upgraded simply my processor to a 2.4ghz dual core, same ram, same video card, sam hard drive, same motherboard, just new heatsink/fan/processor and now get over 90fps average. There is no way the eve client was built for dual core processors.  

  • kingfetkingfet Member Posts: 92

    even without the T&L it may run just not well and not supported, really there is no way to tell. I would suggest preordering, getting into open beta and find out for yourself. If it doesnt cancel the pre order.

  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444
    Originally posted by kingfet


    you sir are very wrong, that processor, regardless as to whether it supports dual or not is plenty of processor. Granted it is based off the mobile architecture, and therefore not as big of a work horse as a dual core desktop processor, and cache and fsb are probably lowered to extend battery life, but if you have a single core, more than likely his processor kills yours.
     Its time to embrace the future my friend, please dont bash dual core processors, it really isnt an intelligent thing to do on a hardware forum. You come off as simply ignorant.
    Case in point i see you play eve, i do as well. I was running a P4 3.0ghz with HT, with 3 gigs ram and averaged 40-50fps in classic.
    I upgraded simply my processor to a 2.4ghz dual core, same ram, same video card, sam hard drive, same motherboard, just new heatsink/fan/processor and now get over 90fps average. There is no way the eve client was built for dual core processors.  



     

    WOW! I wasn't bashing dual-core, but thanks for bashing me! And as for me being ignorant, I wasn't hideing that fact, because I said I heard conflicting stories on the effects of multi-core processors on games. I never thought my phrasing would be construed as anything other than inquisitional, please forgive me.

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    "Chemistry: 'We do stuff in lab that would be a felony in your garage.'"

    The most awesomest after school special T-shirt:
    Front: UNO Chemistry Club
    Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions

  • kingfetkingfet Member Posts: 92
    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by kingfet


    you sir are very wrong, that processor, regardless as to whether it supports dual or not is plenty of processor. Granted it is based off the mobile architecture, and therefore not as big of a work horse as a dual core desktop processor, and cache and fsb are probably lowered to extend battery life, but if you have a single core, more than likely his processor kills yours.
     Its time to embrace the future my friend, please dont bash dual core processors, it really isnt an intelligent thing to do on a hardware forum. You come off as simply ignorant.
    Case in point i see you play eve, i do as well. I was running a P4 3.0ghz with HT, with 3 gigs ram and averaged 40-50fps in classic.
    I upgraded simply my processor to a 2.4ghz dual core, same ram, same video card, sam hard drive, same motherboard, just new heatsink/fan/processor and now get over 90fps average. There is no way the eve client was built for dual core processors.  



     

    WOW! I wasn't bashing dual-core, but thanks for bashing me! And as for me being ignorant, I wasn't hideing that fact, because I said I heard conflicting stories on the effects of multi-core processors on games. I never thought my phrasing would be construed as anything other than inquisitional, please forgive me.

     

    Yeah I am grumpy today, sorry i guess I was harsh. At any rate you are correct in that some games use multi thread operations better than others, and some dont at all. Regardless though any person switching to a dual core will see a huge performance jump over a single core.

    To get back on topic, he has plenty of ram for a non vista machine, and plenty of processor. He has integrated graphics which will suck up that ram. It is going to be imperative he uses XP, and I would be willing to bet he will be able to play even without the T&L

  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444
    Originally posted by kingfet

    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by kingfet


    you sir are very wrong, that processor, regardless as to whether it supports dual or not is plenty of processor. Granted it is based off the mobile architecture, and therefore not as big of a work horse as a dual core desktop processor, and cache and fsb are probably lowered to extend battery life, but if you have a single core, more than likely his processor kills yours.
     Its time to embrace the future my friend, please dont bash dual core processors, it really isnt an intelligent thing to do on a hardware forum. You come off as simply ignorant.
    Case in point i see you play eve, i do as well. I was running a P4 3.0ghz with HT, with 3 gigs ram and averaged 40-50fps in classic.
    I upgraded simply my processor to a 2.4ghz dual core, same ram, same video card, sam hard drive, same motherboard, just new heatsink/fan/processor and now get over 90fps average. There is no way the eve client was built for dual core processors.  



     

    WOW! I wasn't bashing dual-core, but thanks for bashing me! And as for me being ignorant, I wasn't hideing that fact, because I said I heard conflicting stories on the effects of multi-core processors on games. I never thought my phrasing would be construed as anything other than inquisitional, please forgive me.

     

    Yeah I am grumpy today, sorry i guess I was harsh. At any rate you are correct in that some games use multi thread operations better than others, and some dont at all. Regardless though any person switching to a dual core will see a huge performance jump over a single core.

    To get back on topic, he has plenty of ram for a non vista machine, and plenty of processor. He has integrated graphics which will suck up that ram. It is going to be imperative he uses XP, and I would be willing to bet he will be able to play even without the T&L



     

    All's cool. The reason why i'm so interested in this, is because I'm about to get a new laptop for school and I don't want to spend much on it. So the base processor the one I was looking at is a dual-core 2.0, but the min. requirements said something along needing 2.5, so I figured well dual-core would probably work like 2.0*2 for mine, then people said yeah that's right and others say no you're wrong. And I don't know what to believe. I just want to play it like the OP. lol

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    "Chemistry: 'We do stuff in lab that would be a felony in your garage.'"

    The most awesomest after school special T-shirt:
    Front: UNO Chemistry Club
    Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions

  • KvenTelGhoulKvenTelGhoul Member Posts: 30
    Thanks, yea that is a good idea. I guess ill have to find my old xp discs and test out the open beta to see if it will work.

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  • KvenTelGhoulKvenTelGhoul Member Posts: 30
    I guess another option would be to try and find a motherboard from another P105 series laptop and try to put it in myself. Some of the upper P105 models have decent Geforce graphics chips instead of these crappy intel ones.

    About the whole dual core thing, I used to have a amd 2800 in a desktop which is close to 2.5ghz. This 1.73 dual core smokes it. From what I understand is that your OS does make use of the dual core and since you play your games through the OS you should get better performance. I believe when they say games don't use dual core they just mean they don't take full advantage of what they could be using even though they still benefit from dual core.


    My old computer specs were amd 2800 1.25gb ram Geforce 6600 with 256mb.


    My current laptop smokes that machine in the games I play. Although the Geforce card did produce some slightly prettier water and other little minor things.

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  • kingfetkingfet Member Posts: 92

    I would never recommend a laptop to anyone playing games, but that dual core 2.0 will smoke whatever single core you are currently using, and actually diagnostic software takes this into consideration. Such as system requirements lab, rates my computer as having 2 processors at 2.4ghz each and then goes on to say or one processor clocked at 6.4ghz i believe.

  • KvenTelGhoulKvenTelGhoul Member Posts: 30

    Ok so i found out that you do need to also have hardware T&L as well as vertex shaders in order to play and my intel 945gm does not have those.  I did however find a 3d emulation program that lets me play crysis which also requires the same thing.  Would this work for WAR too?

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  • kingfetkingfet Member Posts: 92

    Well, I have no idea about emulation software. I do not know how stable it will be, but if you are running crysis, than you will probably run war. I am sure crysis is more intensive than war is.

  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167

    To give a quick comparison between laptop and desktop performance.

    Laptop - Dell Inspiron 1505, CPU: T2080,1.73Ghz Core 2 Duo, RAM: 2Gb DDR2, Video: Nvidia 256MB Ge Force 7300

    Desktop: CPU: R4 3GHz Single Core, RAM: 2GHz (DDR? - 5 years old, can't remember), Video: 512Mb ATI x1950pro.

    Both running XP Pro SP3. On default settings WoW runs laggy on the the laptop but perfectly fine on the desktop. After having tried it on a laptop if I had a choice, go with a desktop. (see my other thread for the PC I'll be ordering this weekend).

     

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