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Saga of Ryzom???????

I read this in PC Gamer October 04, what do you think of it? IMO i love the living ecosystem, massive territorial invasions and epic battles with hordes of monsters.....I find it very original, so original it could change the MMOG genre? What do you think of it?

PS= Moderators, plz do not move this thread, its only for opinions from players of different games

A Story Line That Matters
Ryzom boasts a wholly original universe fusing sci-fi and fantasy where players shape the story and each server charts its own course.

A Lush, Living Ecosystem
The world of Atys is alive, with a rich and diverse ecology where flora and fauna dynamically interact with each other and the ever-changing environment. Nothing is static in Ryzom.

Flexible Skill Basd Advancement
Develop your character through a skill-based system that grows in detail as you gain experience. Ryzom offers 5 huge skill trees with thousands of possible choices.

Rich Item Creation/Enchantment
Hunt and forage for scarce natural resources to craft complex items from the bottom up, then add enchantments to your equipment to make it vastly more powerful.

Massive Territorial Invasions
Ryzom´s RAID Engine delivers excitement on a large scale. Monsters will assault key outposts, dynamically invade territories, and devastate entire regions if left unchecked.

Epic Battles With Hordes Of Monsters
Fight hundreds of creatures at once in pitched battles! Ryzom offers groundbreaking mass combat mechanics that allow combat on a scale NEVER SEEN IN MMORPGS!

Customized Skills and Special Attacks
Ryzoms unique Modular Action System lets you create your own custom actions. From a core set of building blocks, make as many spells and special attacks s your imagination will allow

Guilds and Factions
Meet new friends and form your own Guild to compete against other players (PvP) or build strong alliances to face common enemies in mass combat

 

 

Comments

  • diegolinkdiegolink Member Posts: 195

    Im including some pics, some people say SoR has bad graphics, but i think it has great graphics.....well its up to you.

    hmmmmmm...... never mind, thought this was HTML based....isnt it?

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    say...

    those red Xs are pretty tight image


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    Now hear me out, its just an opinion, I don't want yours. .
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    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • DarkmastershDarkmastersh Member Posts: 205

    This is the game Ive been waiting for since i left UO before Third Dawn.

    Just a prblem, bout the "massive territorial invasions" and "epic battles with hordes of monsters", It would be very lag, dont you think?

  • diegolinkdiegolink Member Posts: 195

    I used to play UO Second Age and UO:R, returned with Lord Blackthorn´s Revenge, and left with Age of Shadows.

    EA sux

    I think youll be doing quests to reveal the past of Atys, it will have many Role Players image.

  • JimberflyJimberfly Member UncommonPosts: 65
    You can't post links to pictures that are on your own hard drive smartypants.

  • BigpigBigpig Member Posts: 128

    I am playing it atm i find it a breath of fresh air from SWG. image

    It strange but that adds to the whole feeling image

    I was in a group of 3 who got beat up by a plant lol :)

  • BlackstarBlackstar Member Posts: 50

    I installed it the other day and I am very impressed with what I have seen so far.  The graphics are amazing, as good as SWG, if not better.  It does have the feel that it was released a tad early, but not too early in that nothing critical is missing.  The only thing that I miss that is not in the game is background music.   The ambient environmental sounds are nice, but a good classical score helps to set the mood.  The learning curve is a bit steeper than other games as you are given a wide range of skill options to pick from, but nothing is simply given to you like a cookie-cutter class system.

    Alot of the reviews and comments made by players have been unfairly negative.

  • diegolinkdiegolink Member Posts: 195

    Patch One includes:

    Player Vendors (NPCs you can offer your goods for sale through)

    Theme Music

    Magician Glove

    Mounts for the GMs

    Tuning and balance for magic users – less expensive spells, a refund for certain spells, will need to redo some purchases & stanzas to adjust.

    The world becomes a more dangerous place. Creatures have their own agendas. Be careful. They just got a bit better organized!

    Patch One is heading to the Advanced Test Server (ATS)soon...

    1-2 weeks after landing on the advanced test server – Patch One goes live!

    Dont worry, youll hear music after Patch 1 image

    BTW...yes, the sound is incredible

  • diegolinkdiegolink Member Posts: 195

    Want an example of the incredible sound in this game?

    Go in this page: http://ryzom.mmoworlds.com/index.php?page=articles&idart=33

    Download "dawn" and "night"

  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006

    The combat system is way to slow for me. takes about 4minutes of swinging at a lvl 1 mob to kill it. That alone is enough to destroy a game for me, and it has done so with SoR.

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  • DarkmastershDarkmastersh Member Posts: 205

    Great Sound

    To Remyburke.........nothing is as slow as EQ

  • XiraXira Member Posts: 437

    Lets take this point for point:) I played the game as little as 2 weeks ago so I think my findings are probaly still valid.






    A Story Line That Matters
    Ryzom boasts a wholly original universe fusing sci-fi and fantasy where players shape the story and each server charts its own course.

    Post-apotlyptic environment sure. As for each server charting it's own course..Never saw it. It's alot like Horizons in this respect...You get uber crafters who grind away for 200+ hours to complete guild buildings. Since every server isn't going to have all the buildings built this is TECHNICALLY true:)

    A Lush, Living Ecosystem
    The world of Atys is alive, with a rich and diverse ecology where flora and fauna dynamically interact with each other and the ever-changing environment. Nothing is static in Ryzom.

    Aggro mobs attack non aggro mobs. Some mob types move between waypoints in groups. If you are near a mob(ANY mobs) it will come up to you, what it will do then depends on if it's aggo or non aggro.(Sit there and play animations or attack). All of the 'life' of animals in this game is just animations..There's the sleep animation and the eat animation and the sit animation. IF you consider that alive then Sure.

    Flexible Skill Basd Advancement
    Develop your character through a skill-based system that grows in detail as you gain experience. Ryzom offers 5 huge skill trees with thousands of possible choices.

    All of which you can and must take to keep up with the jonesies. 50% of the skills are useless, 25% are overpowered. Among people who know what they are doing, everyone is the same. You WILL find yourself grinding crafting levels so you can buy more hitpoints so you can cast more powerful spells(???).

    Rich Item Creation/Enchantment
    Hunt and forage for scarce natural resources to craft complex items from the bottom up, then add enchantments to your equipment to make it vastly more powerful.

    If you are a crafter you better have a strong guild to support you because you can't possibly collect the types of materials(the RARES) that people want for their items. All the good materials are from Harvesting, and Mobs don't drop real loot...(Just worthless crafting componets only useful for leveling after level 50 or so...about 1000 total levels so *shrug*) If you want to make a go of crafting you need to be in the top-tier crafters..As top-tier crafters can craft the newbie stuff with better stat bonuses and better enchantments than a newbie.

    Massive Territorial Invasions
    Ryzom´s RAID Engine delivers excitement on a large scale. Monsters will assault key outposts, dynamically invade territories, and devastate entire regions if left unchecked.

    Reality: The GMs get togther about once a day per server and throw some mobs at a town. Or have an Arena pvp event for the level 200+'s.(There's an arena but it's in 200+ aggro land) That is the only 'event' I have ever seen.

    Epic Battles With Hordes Of Monsters
    Fight hundreds of creatures at once in pitched battles! Ryzom offers groundbreaking mass combat mechanics that allow combat on a scale NEVER SEEN IN MMORPGS!

    See above. Did I mention it lags my 4.2Ghz/6800?

    Customized Skills and Special Attacks
    Ryzoms unique Modular Action System lets you create your own custom actions. From a core set of building blocks, make as many spells and special attacks s your imagination will allow

    Indeed this is possible...But since 75% of the skills are useless and the remainder are very narrowly defined if you for instance use blunts you'll be useing the same attack(Slow + damageX + HP credit) as every other blunt user. If you are a magic user AcidX -range + hp credit and AcidX + range - casting time are the ONLY way to be effective.

    While it does allow more 'possible' combinations than this most of them are ineffective. There are 4 magic trees...But only Acid does real damage, and then there's cold for acid resistant MOBS.

    Guilds and Factions
    Meet new friends and form your own Guild to compete against other players (PvP) or build strong alliances to face common enemies in mass combat

    Oh yes, the game has guilds:) Without a seprate guild chat window:)

     




    All in all my opinion of this game is that it tried to break the EQ mold, but did so with very poor implementation. They released 6 months too early with quite a few bugs and very poor balance(Read: Melee is 2X as effective as Magic for anything)

  • diegolinkdiegolink Member Posts: 195
    Yes, they should release it 1 month after, but its fun and original.

  • CIM_LWCIM_LW Member Posts: 282

    SoR is merely a typical MMORPG with very few boring, poorly implemented new features in a bland, yet somewhat unique universe. Nothing really stands out in this game.

  • BigpigBigpig Member Posts: 128

    I think its a very good game but still very much a beta. :)

  • crockcrock Member Posts: 556

    the game universe is not that bad
    but game play suxx hardcore
    nothing realy new here only some promissed futures those probably will be never implemented
    dont pay for beta !!!!!


  • DeathBladeDeathBlade Member Posts: 33
    looking much better to me now :D

  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,503

    I played both BETAs.  It looked OK, was a bit laggy for me.  In the 2nd beta I was involved in an invasion by chitins.  It was a complete blast, lots and lots of monsters storming the city, hack and slash and magic going every where.  Not too laggy but there was some.

    The skill system is better and I think they are taking steps in the right direction, but alot of work has yet to be done.  Maybe if they held their cards for abotu 6 more months and fixed the lag issues, balanced everything it might have worked out.

    Umm I don't remember Magic being gimp to Melee at all in the first beta, but the 2nd one, wow, way out of proportion.  Any way. my 2 cent.

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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006



    Originally posted by Darkmastersh

    Great Sound
    To Remyburke.........nothing is as slow as EQ




    i played EQ for 3 years. and yes EQ is a bit slow in the combat but Rysom is ridiculous. keep in mind EQ is 7 years old and beside UO there was nothing else out in its hayday. Rysom is new but plays like its an old fart.

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  • AtmaDarkwolfAtmaDarkwolf Member UncommonPosts: 353

    Hmm..

     

    Well quite honestly.. ryzom was great for the first week, (Beta) then by that time the effect of the graphics faded on me(they are great, the water is got to be the best I have seen in any game so far) and the really lousy combat system, lost me. I mean, combat is really just pick your attack type(from whatever you have) and sit back for 4 min, heal once, then continie watching for another 4 min.

     

    The harvesting was pretty much the same.. prospect an anrea, find something, then mine it(and sit back and watch) or move on and prospect another area, etc.

     

    Crafting was also sort of boring, but with crafting, it was not bad.(I mean, as far as crafting systems go in any game, there is no real player driven effect..you can't do anything to improve your chances, not that u should. The crafting system was fine I guess)

     

    I only played the beta, so I don't know what has changed when it ended, but that game, can't hold me, someone who played AC1 for 4 years, and other games since for months at a time.(RO held me for a year, and even even got me paying for 2 months, but ryzom I dropped even before the free beta was over)

     

    Honestly.. my feeling toward ryzom is my own, but if anyone else has these feelings, I am sure that it is a great percentage of the MMORPG'ers population who feels the same as I do, and if thats the case, ryzom is going to be a blimp on the mmorpg radar screen. Unless they do something about the boring combat system, change the way skills work(like above poster said, Lots of skills, but most are usless and others are overpowerd, creating a mess of cookie cutter builds that there is no real point to divulge from, and the lack of any real effective Hand to hand combat ability(u can go hand to hand, bu tno matter how strong you are, picking up a weapon is always better, no matter what) Also the simple ability to jump and climb and swim underwater would vastly improve the game's chances out there in the real mmorpg world.

     

    Sorry.. but SoR gets a double thumbs down from me(but nice graphics, if thats what you want in a game and nothing else matters, please, try SoR out.. it is gourgous)

  • crimpcrimp Member Posts: 19
    i tried this game during open beta and i didnt llike it...image

  • PotnahPotnah Member Posts: 6

    The problem with SoR is the fact that they had to release it now in its unfinished and unbalanced state since there's no chance of it competing with EQ2 and WoW.  Soon these two games will share the vast majority of the mmorpg customers.

    Therefore, I think it was a smart move for them to release it now.  The gaming industry is about making money.  It was either release it now while the mmorpg market is empty to make some money, or release it when the game is ready but competing with EQ2 and WoW will leave them with no sales.

  • vladwwvladww Member UncommonPosts: 417

    Thought i might correct a couple of things as i've been playing Ryzom since release & not the beta version..

    - magic / melee has never been so well balanced in any mmorpg ( &  i've played a lot : EQ, UO, Daoc, AO, AC2, Horizons ..)

    Magic is slightly tough to level up in the early levels but gets really mean later on.

    - Combat lasting too long ? If you solo with  some good gears/spells or with a nice group, you can chain kill mobs & drop them in seconds one after the other. Even more : hardly any downtimes..

    - Broken skills : I've selected about 20+ skills since i've started playing including :

    accuracy, increase damage, circular strike, bleeding (dot), speed power, invulnerability, etc...

    I still got to find a broken one.. Even more, as a melee it's the first time ever i see a 'Taunt' skill that actually works to get aggro from casters !

    Anyway , thought it would be fair to bring here the view of someone who actually plays the game.

    I originally bought Saga of Ryzom waiting for EQ2 & WoW,  & it happens (imo) to be the best mmorpg comin out in years.

    It's Huge, Deep & Immersive.image

     

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  • XiraXira Member Posts: 437

    Withhold sex from her! Demand that she play games for sex!

     

    Ah...err....also give her my number:)

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