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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558

    im confused Oo

  • GMnyGMny Member Posts: 163

    you sure are

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by GMny


    you sure are



     

    you dont know about what tho do you

  • bee52bee52 Member Posts: 158

    The reason the video has been delayed is because they're too busy developing the game. I'm sure it'll come out soon.

  • Bruticus_XIBruticus_XI Member Posts: 827
    Originally posted by Jokerkaaos


    No, I am finding accidental poetry in the comment. The fact is, you aren't "waiting for the game to go live."
     
    You're just waiting. That's all anyone can say they have done with this game - wait. Waiting for a game to go live involves what I am doing right now - downloading a 9.5 gb beta client for a game that's already been beta tested by thousands of people, is being sold, and about to launch.
     
    THAT is "waiting for a game to go live." You guys are celebrating waiting for years for a super-secret video so you can go back to... waiting for the game.

    Can't wait to see the half-baked fanboy reply to this one.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558

    meh im not really waiting lol because i do other things i just like argueing with you guys because Its going to be great to see what you guys say when that video proves you guys wrong ( it better)

  • COORSCOORS Member UncommonPosts: 353

    Well, they may actually produce the video, I won't deny that possibility.

    However, very little of what Tasos has ever said has been carried out. Just a couple months ago he stated there would be two or more articles in MAJOR gaming magazines in August. I've yet to see those articles in ANY major magazine. Where are they?

    See what I mean. Tasos says lots of stuff. He promises everything IS coming SOON! But... Soon never seems to come. It is always postponed a little bit longer for one reason or another.

    Very convenient to be able to make promises time and time again, and have fans just go along without question.

    Well... In my opinion, the time has finally come to produce something.

    No more.... just a while longer... in a few weeks... months... years...

    You get the idea.

  • CaesarsGhostCaesarsGhost Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136
    Originally posted by downtoearth


    meh im not really waiting lol because i do other things i just like argueing with you guys because Its going to be great to see what you guys say when that video proves you guys wrong ( it better)

     

    The last video they made looked like a Torque prototype...

    - CaesarsGhost

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    "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

    Originally posted by downtoearth


    meh im not really waiting lol because i do other things i just like argueing with you guys because Its going to be great to see what you guys say when that video proves you guys wrong ( it better)

     

    The last video they made looked like a Torque prototype...

    LMAO no it didnt.

     

     

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by COORS


    Well, they may actually produce the video, I won't deny that possibility.
    However, very little of what Tasos has ever said has been carried out. Just a couple months ago he stated there would be two or more articles in MAJOR gaming magazines in August. I've yet to see those articles in ANY major magazine. Where are they?
    See what I mean. Tasos says lots of stuff. He promises everything IS coming SOON! But... Soon never seems to come. It is always postponed a little bit longer for one reason or another.
    Very convenient to be able to make promises time and time again, and have fans just go along without question.
    Well... In my opinion, the time has finally come to produce something.
    No more.... just a while longer... in a few weeks... months... years...
    You get the idea.



     

    he said there coming out in august no he didnt

    he said hell tells us when they come out.

    quote

    *We've started collecting in-game footage for a video update which is taking a while being low in the immediate priorities list, but moving along. There have been a couple of magazine interviews; we’ll let you know which ones when they come out. There are a couple of requests for online interviews which we’re doing as well. *

     

    and what promises have taso broke?

    all i remember is them giving us tmi on there plans and there plans get changed

  • JokerkaaosJokerkaaos Member Posts: 125

    A lot of us would like to see Darkfall (or a game with many of its theoretical features) happen; we've just grown ... extremely skeptical.

     

    The reason we give you a hard time is because we see a certain blindness in the Darkfall loyalists. We see that your expectations have lowered to the point where you wait for months and years for tiny bits of information, bits which usually end up being just words.

     

    The latest issue of the video is a good microcosm for the whole affair. Everyone knows it's easy to take video and edit it. Any idiot can get Fraps, Virtualdub and Audacity for free and start rolling. All they would have to do is put a big headline saying "THIS IS RAW GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE" and they wouldn't even have to bother with editing.

     

    Nobody expects some cinematic-quality trailer; what people DO expect is some kind of proof of life. That the DF guys hem and haw and delay and promise for months over such a simple thing says a lot.

     

     

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Jokerkaaos


    A lot of us would like to see Darkfall (or a game with many of its theoretical features) happen; we've just grown ... extremely skeptical.
     
    The reason we give you a hard time is because we see a certain blindness in the Darkfall loyalists. We see that your expectations have lowered to the point where you wait for months and years for tiny bits of information, bits which usually end up being just words.
     
    The latest issue of the video is a good microcosm for the whole affair. Everyone knows it's easy to take video and edit it. Any idiot can get Fraps, Virtualdub and Audacity for free and start rolling. All they would have to do is put a big headline saying "THIS IS RAW GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE" and they wouldn't even have to bother with editing.
     
    Nobody expects some cinematic-quality trailer; what people DO expect is some kind of proof of life. That the DF guys hem and haw and delay and promise for months over such a simple thing says a lot.
     
     

    there perfectinist

     

  • COORSCOORS Member UncommonPosts: 353
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by COORS


    Well, they may actually produce the video, I won't deny that possibility.
    However, very little of what Tasos has ever said has been carried out. Just a couple months ago he stated there would be two or more articles in MAJOR gaming magazines in August. I've yet to see those articles in ANY major magazine. Where are they?
    See what I mean. Tasos says lots of stuff. He promises everything IS coming SOON! But... Soon never seems to come. It is always postponed a little bit longer for one reason or another.
    Very convenient to be able to make promises time and time again, and have fans just go along without question.
    Well... In my opinion, the time has finally come to produce something.
    No more.... just a while longer... in a few weeks... months... years...
    You get the idea.



     

    he said there coming out in august no he didnt

    he said hell tells us when they come out.

    quote

    *We've started collecting in-game footage for a video update which is taking a while being low in the immediate priorities list, but moving along. There have been a couple of magazine interviews; we’ll let you know which ones when they come out. There are a couple of requests for online interviews which we’re doing as well. *

     

    and what promises have taso broke?

    all i remember is them giving us tmi on there plans and there plans get changed



     

    Very convenient to constantly state your plans and then constantly change them. When do we actually get to the end here?

    He said that MONTHS ago. So, where are the magazine interviews? You certainly aren't gonna count the Greek magazine's reporting about the Greek gaming conference? That's very old news.

    My point is this. He eluded to having given magazine interviews. Most people would assume them to be with major magazines, by the way he spoke.

    Where are they?

    That's my point. No matter what he says nothing ever happens, and you just keep on defending his every word and believing it as gospel.

  • TheHowellerTheHoweller Member Posts: 407
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Jokerkaaos


    A lot of us would like to see Darkfall (or a game with many of its theoretical features) happen; we've just grown ... extremely skeptical.
     
    The reason we give you a hard time is because we see a certain blindness in the Darkfall loyalists. We see that your expectations have lowered to the point where you wait for months and years for tiny bits of information, bits which usually end up being just words.
     
    The latest issue of the video is a good microcosm for the whole affair. Everyone knows it's easy to take video and edit it. Any idiot can get Fraps, Virtualdub and Audacity for free and start rolling. All they would have to do is put a big headline saying "THIS IS RAW GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE" and they wouldn't even have to bother with editing.
     
    Nobody expects some cinematic-quality trailer; what people DO expect is some kind of proof of life. That the DF guys hem and haw and delay and promise for months over such a simple thing says a lot.
     
     

    there perfectinist

     

    What a stupid fucking reply to a VERY valid point.   I'm anxious for this video, but not enough so to lose my senses, downtoearth (your name should be changed to "outinspace").  Honestly, for your name, your posts are always a contradiction.  You're by far one of the most thoughtless dolts on these forums.  I don't believe you've ever made a single, solidified point in all 200+ posts.  You're an utter waste of time

     

    Joker, well said.  Adventurine's pulling some stupid shit right now, for whatever reasons.  It sure isn't helping the people sitting fence.  It's actually making me play more Mount & Blade, trying to gain back some amount of fun from playing games.  MMOs are so bland, somewhat like "outinspace".

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    Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by COORS

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by COORS


    Well, they may actually produce the video, I won't deny that possibility.
    However, very little of what Tasos has ever said has been carried out. Just a couple months ago he stated there would be two or more articles in MAJOR gaming magazines in August. I've yet to see those articles in ANY major magazine. Where are they?
    See what I mean. Tasos says lots of stuff. He promises everything IS coming SOON! But... Soon never seems to come. It is always postponed a little bit longer for one reason or another.
    Very convenient to be able to make promises time and time again, and have fans just go along without question.
    Well... In my opinion, the time has finally come to produce something.
    No more.... just a while longer... in a few weeks... months... years...
    You get the idea.



     

    he said there coming out in august no he didnt

    he said hell tells us when they come out.

    quote

    *We've started collecting in-game footage for a video update which is taking a while being low in the immediate priorities list, but moving along. There have been a couple of magazine interviews; we’ll let you know which ones when they come out. There are a couple of requests for online interviews which we’re doing as well. *

     

    and what promises have taso broke?

    all i remember is them giving us tmi on there plans and there plans get changed



     

    Very convenient to constantly state your plans and then constantly change them. When do we actually get to the end here?

    He said that MONTHS ago. So, where are the magazine interviews? You certainly aren't gonna count the Greek magazine's reporting about the Greek gaming conference? That's very old news.

    My point is this. He eluded to having given magazine interviews. Most people would assume them to be with major magazines, by the way he spoke.

    Where are they?

    That's my point. No matter what he says nothing ever happens, and you just keep on defending his every word and believing it as gospel.



     

    i dont beleive him until i see the magazines

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by TheHoweller

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Jokerkaaos


    A lot of us would like to see Darkfall (or a game with many of its theoretical features) happen; we've just grown ... extremely skeptical.
     
    The reason we give you a hard time is because we see a certain blindness in the Darkfall loyalists. We see that your expectations have lowered to the point where you wait for months and years for tiny bits of information, bits which usually end up being just words.
     
    The latest issue of the video is a good microcosm for the whole affair. Everyone knows it's easy to take video and edit it. Any idiot can get Fraps, Virtualdub and Audacity for free and start rolling. All they would have to do is put a big headline saying "THIS IS RAW GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE" and they wouldn't even have to bother with editing.
     
    Nobody expects some cinematic-quality trailer; what people DO expect is some kind of proof of life. That the DF guys hem and haw and delay and promise for months over such a simple thing says a lot.
     
     

    there perfectinist

     

    What a stupid fucking reply to a VERY valid point.   I'm anxious for this video, but not enough so to lose my senses, downtoearth (your name should be changed to "outinspace").  Honestly, for your name, your posts are always a contradiction.  You're by far one of the most thoughtless dolts on these forums.  I don't believe you've ever made a single, solidified point in all 200+ posts.  You're an utter waste of time

     

    Joker, well said.  Adventurine's pulling some stupid shit right now, for whatever reasons.  It sure isn't helping the people sitting fence.  It's actually making me play more Mount & Blade, trying to gain back some amount of fun from playing games.  MMOs are so bland, somewhat like "outinspace".



     

    i was just saying ther perfectinist thats all no reason to get angry even that womans gamers said so

    his point is valid but what mmo company does that?

    and do ic are if i ever made perfect sense or made perfect valid points most of you guys dont either

  • JokerkaaosJokerkaaos Member Posts: 125
    Originally posted by downtoearth



    his point is valid but what mmo company does that?

     

    A company whose promised MMO is widely considered vaporware and/or a scam would want to do that. They'd want to give more solid proof that they have an actual game, or something approaching one. They'd want to generate good press and good word of mouth. They'd want to generate some buzz and attract investors and publishers.

     

    They'd want not to be the running joke of the MMO community.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Jokerkaaos

    Originally posted by downtoearth



    his point is valid but what mmo company does that?

     

    A company whose promised MMO is widely considered vaporware and/or a scam would want to do that. They'd want to give more solid proof that they have an actual game, or something approaching one. They'd want to generate good press and good word of mouth. They'd want to generate some buzz and attract investors and publishers.

     

    They'd want not to be the running joke of the MMO community.



     

    it woudnt really matter if thats the case  sorry just give it up

  • Zayne3145Zayne3145 Member Posts: 1,448

    Please, please let the vid link to a Rick Roll.

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  • JupstoJupsto Member UncommonPosts: 2,075

    this friday or shortly after, aka 2009.

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  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630
    Originally posted by Jokerkaaos

    Originally posted by downtoearth



    his point is valid but what mmo company does that?

     

    A company whose promised MMO is widely considered vaporware and/or a scam would want to do that. They'd want to give more solid proof that they have an actual game, or something approaching one. They'd want to generate good press and good word of mouth. They'd want to generate some buzz and attract investors and publishers.

     

    They'd want not to be the running joke of the MMO community.



     

    You are wrong and you don't even realise why, which is fun for those of us in the know.

    If this site is an indicator of an MMO community then youre wrong the community are playing MMOs not trolling here.

    They have nothing to prove, you may not like that response but thats where we are at.

    They expect to release a more comprehensive video, and expect to release it in August if other development priorities don't take presidence.  They have investors and a publisher and expect to release end of 2008 if again the development cycle allows. But that is what they plan to do.

    Now please note it is what the plan and hope to do read these words let them sink in ... and then continue to troll because you post is just appauling . What I have stated is where DF is at now. 

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  • tp1hobsstp1hobss Member Posts: 48
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by COORS


    Well, they may actually produce the video, I won't deny that possibility.
    However, very little of what Tasos has ever said has been carried out. Just a couple months ago he stated there would be two or more articles in MAJOR gaming magazines in August. I've yet to see those articles in ANY major magazine. Where are they?
    See what I mean. Tasos says lots of stuff. He promises everything IS coming SOON! But... Soon never seems to come. It is always postponed a little bit longer for one reason or another.
    Very convenient to be able to make promises time and time again, and have fans just go along without question.
    Well... In my opinion, the time has finally come to produce something.
    No more.... just a while longer... in a few weeks... months... years...
    You get the idea.



     

    he said there coming out in august no he didnt

    he said hell tells us when they come out.

    quote

    *We've started collecting in-game footage for a video update which is taking a while being low in the immediate priorities list, but moving along. There have been a couple of magazine interviews; we’ll let you know which ones when they come out. There are a couple of requests for online interviews which we’re doing as well. *

     

    and what promises have taso broke?

    all i remember is them giving us tmi on there plans and there plans get changed



     

    I guess my confusion is that I wasn't waiting for 7 years for this and have just begun hearing the whispers about it.  Why the 'incognito' response?  Why tell us which mags once they've already been published?  Why not advertise?  Why not say, WOW, we got us an interview with wii magazine?  Where's the glamour or pats on the back if you keep your gem hidden from the world..who will appreciate you then? Who will appreciate 'it'?

    In all my years of gaming...from Table Top to systems to PC....there has never been a release where someone just popped out and said...HEY...we've kept it under wraps for 10 years and feel we should now share it with you all.  There has been literature and artwork founded after a long decade rest...but not a game...especially not a MMO. 

    I guess I just don't understand how this has seemingly grabbed the attention of a small group of gamers and continued to live within their hearts.  I don't understand it.....so......

    If any of you DarkFall fans cares to answer....I don't expect flames...but if they happen to sneak in through the open window...I'll be sure to have a glass of water in-hand.

  • JokerkaaosJokerkaaos Member Posts: 125
    Originally posted by Isane





    They expect to .... release a more comprehensive video,
    and expect to.... release it in August if other development priorities don't take presidence.   and
    expect to...  release end of 2008
    if again.... the development cycle allows.
    that is what they.... plan..... to do.
    Now please note it is what the plan ........
     

     

    This is the point. Expect, expect, plan, expect, if, plan, if, blah blah etc.

     

    It's always words. They do have something to prove - that the game exists.

  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630
    Originally posted by Jokerkaaos

    Originally posted by Isane





    They expect to .... release a more comprehensive video,
    and expect to.... release it in August if other development priorities don't take presidence.   and
    expect to...  release end of 2008
    if again.... the development cycle allows.
    that is what they.... plan..... to do.
    Now please note it is what the plan ........
     

     

    This is the point. Expect, expect, plan, expect, if, plan, if, blah blah etc.

     

    It's always words. They do have something to prove - that the game exists.



     

    No that is the reality of development,. They do not have to prove anything to anyone other than people who are investing money ion them at the moment. They are in a dev cycle. The current market is begging for a game like this they know it and so do we.

    You really don't understand they do not have to prove anything. I will say it agaion they do not have to prove anything.

    If that is upseting then hard luck but it is reality.

    Now you can discuss the consequences of this approach, they only have to do what they think is right and that is what they are doing.

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  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630
    Originally posted by tp1hobss

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by COORS


    Well, they may actually produce the video, I won't deny that possibility.
    However, very little of what Tasos has ever said has been carried out. Just a couple months ago he stated there would be two or more articles in MAJOR gaming magazines in August. I've yet to see those articles in ANY major magazine. Where are they?
    See what I mean. Tasos says lots of stuff. He promises everything IS coming SOON! But... Soon never seems to come. It is always postponed a little bit longer for one reason or another.
    Very convenient to be able to make promises time and time again, and have fans just go along without question.
    Well... In my opinion, the time has finally come to produce something.
    No more.... just a while longer... in a few weeks... months... years...
    You get the idea.



     

    he said there coming out in august no he didnt

    he said hell tells us when they come out.

    quote

    *We've started collecting in-game footage for a video update which is taking a while being low in the immediate priorities list, but moving along. There have been a couple of magazine interviews; we’ll let you know which ones when they come out. There are a couple of requests for online interviews which we’re doing as well. *

     

    and what promises have taso broke?

    all i remember is them giving us tmi on there plans and there plans get changed



     

    I guess my confusion is that I wasn't waiting for 7 years for this and have just begun hearing the whispers about it.  Why the 'incognito' response?  Why tell us which mags once they've already been published?  Why not advertise?  Why not say, WOW, we got us an interview with wii magazine?  Where's the glamour or pats on the back if you keep your gem hidden from the world..who will appreciate you then? Who will appreciate 'it'?

    In all my years of gaming...from Table Top to systems to PC....there has never been a release where someone just popped out and said...HEY...we've kept it under wraps for 10 years and feel we should now share it with you all.  There has been literature and artwork founded after a long decade rest...but not a game...especially not a MMO. 

    I guess I just don't understand how this has seemingly grabbed the attention of a small group of gamers and continued to live within their hearts.  I don't understand it.....so......

    If any of you DarkFall fans cares to answer....I don't expect flames...but if they happen to sneak in through the open window...I'll be sure to have a glass of water in-hand.



     

    Tasos was very consistent with what he said and at no point contradicted himself... Like those of us who have read his posts and know the above contradictions are just made up and laughable. Please try harder to troll.

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