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Tyrone0706Tyrone0706 Member Posts: 21

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113075

Can anyone tell me what they think of it?

It's right around my price range, and I've got a brand new 22 inch monitor that'll look nice to play it, however, I wasn't sure if anyone felt there were issues that I wasn't noticing.

I don't have time to build my own PC, so I need a prebuilt one.

 

Thanks for all the help!

Comments

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    you dont have 2-3 hours to build a rig....are you just imbarised to say that you dont know how..

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229050



    id get this one

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  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167

    I'd watch this then build my own.

  • Tyrone0706Tyrone0706 Member Posts: 21

    Well when I mean I don't have time I mean that I don't really have time to learn and such. Right now my job forces me to travel 80% of the year so I'm basically delivering the machine to my home so it's ready to go when I get there.

    But sure, you could say I don't know how to build them because I don't.

    I'll definitely check those two out, I was thinking the name of Gateway was a bit more reliable, or are all newegg products fairly reliable?

     

    Edit:

    I did some watching of those videos, and I definitely feel a little more comfortable about building one, however, I honestly just feel lost when it comes to components still. I get lost in the numbers and such of video cards and RAM.

    I mainly worry that a part will go bad or something and I won't know how to troubleshoot. Frankly I know very little about computers as I've played games on laptops my entire career as a gamer.

    How much does one save by building their own?

  • Tyrone0706Tyrone0706 Member Posts: 21

    Going to go ahead with a double post here...did a little bit more legwork and I think I can put together the PC.

    Here are the parts I'm currently looking at and I'd love a critique on them:

     

    Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

    $99.99

    ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

    $139.99

    ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card

    $182.99

    CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

    $119.99

    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500

    $189.99

    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    $104.99

    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

    $84.99

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD

    $99.99

    ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

    $24.99

     

    Grand Total: $1,047.91

     

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by Tyrone0706


    Going to go ahead with a double post here...did a little bit more legwork and I think I can put together the PC.
    Here are the parts I'm currently looking at and I'd love a critique on them:
     
    Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    $99.99
    ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
    $139.99
    ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
    $182.99
    CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
    $119.99
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500
    $189.99
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK
    $104.99
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    $84.99
    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
    $99.99
    ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
    $24.99
     
    Grand Total: $1,047.91
     

    change the ram to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145194

    g-skill is not the greatest company in the world.

    and get this gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102769 if you can spare some extra cash.

    everything else is fine

     

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  • Tyrone0706Tyrone0706 Member Posts: 21

    Can you explain to me why the DDR2 1066 RAM is worse than the DDR2 800 RAM? Is it purely because the company does not make as good of memory?

    Also, I definitely cannot afford to shell out the extra cash to grab that ATI card, is the card I picked going to be the best for the money I can spend? I was aiming to make this machine sit at around 900 dollars and already am nearing the 1100 dollar mark.

    Any suggestions on things that can be degraded for a little extra savings would be great as well.

    Thanks so much.

  • n25phillyn25philly Member Posts: 1,317
    Originally posted by SgtFrog


    you dont have 2-3 hours to build a rig....are you just imbarised to say that you dont know how..


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229050

    id get this one

     

    2-3 hours?  are you building it blindfolded?

    member of imminst.org

  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Originally posted by Tyrone0706


    Going to go ahead with a double post here...did a little bit more legwork and I think I can put together the PC.
    Here are the parts I'm currently looking at and I'd love a critique on them:
     
    Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    $99.99
    ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
    $139.99
    ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
    $182.99
    CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
    $119.99
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500
    $189.99
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK
    $104.99
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    $84.99
    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
    $99.99
    ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
    $24.99
     
    Grand Total: $1,047.91
     

    This is close to the components I just oredered. The difference are:

    • 8Gb Corsair Dominator
    • PC Power and Cooling 750W PSU
    • Cooler Master Cosmos 1000
    • Vista 64bit Ultimate
    • Diamond HD4870 OC

     

  • pyrofreakpyrofreak Member UncommonPosts: 1,481
    Originally posted by n25philly

    Originally posted by SgtFrog


    you dont have 2-3 hours to build a rig....are you just imbarised to say that you dont know how..


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229050

    id get this one

     

    2-3 hours?  are you building it blindfolded?

     

    I tried that once, I got everything but the front panel jumpers connected fine. And it didn't take me 2 hours.

    Now with 57.3% more flames!

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by n25philly

    Originally posted by SgtFrog


    you dont have 2-3 hours to build a rig....are you just imbarised to say that you dont know how..


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229050

    id get this one

     

    2-3 hours?  are you building it blindfolded?



    its his fisrt time so iy will take him longer

    + i like to have good cable managment...thats what takes most of my time(so say im way to obsessed with cable managment :p

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  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by Tyrone0706


    Can you explain to me why the DDR2 1066 RAM is worse than the DDR2 800 RAM? Is it purely because the company does not make as good of memory?
    Also, I definitely cannot afford to shell out the extra cash to grab that ATI card, is the card I picked going to be the best for the money I can spend? I was aiming to make this machine sit at around 900 dollars and already am nearing the 1100 dollar mark.
    Any suggestions on things that can be degraded for a little extra savings would be great as well.
    Thanks so much.

     

    the 4850 is fine and the best value for mony card you will buy.

    iv just had bad luck with g-skill card dying on me for no aparent reason.

    but thats me. some have never had a problem. :)

     

     

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  • ThunderballsThunderballs Member Posts: 365
    Originally posted by Tyrone0706


    Well when I mean I don't have time I mean that I don't really have time to learn and such. Right now my job forces me to travel 80% of the year so I'm basically delivering the machine to my home so it's ready to go when I get there.
    But sure, you could say I don't know how to build them because I don't.
    I'll definitely check those two out, I was thinking the name of Gateway was a bit more reliable, or are all newegg products fairly reliable?
     
    Edit:
    I did some watching of those videos, and I definitely feel a little more comfortable about building one, however, I honestly just feel lost when it comes to components still. I get lost in the numbers and such of video cards and RAM.
    I mainly worry that a part will go bad or something and I won't know how to troubleshoot. Frankly I know very little about computers as I've played games on laptops my entire career as a gamer.
    How much does one save by building their own?

     

    We all understand where you are coming from.

    Hell at some point most of us bit the bullet and delved into out pcs scared shitless wed mess  the whole thing up.

    Think of components like choosing a car

    you are weighing certain things off against each other and getting the best deal you can and the right car for what you want.

    It is highly unlikey youll scrw up components and tbh you can get someone to build it for you too and maybe pracice on an older pc sometime.

    Either way you will get something for your $ that is way better than a shop bought pc and a lot cheaper than paying a specialist gaming pc company to do it for you,

    I am sure people on here would be happy to advise you on possible components and explain why the ypicjed them so you can understand - it really is pretty much like buying nuts and bolts and spanners.  You need the right size nuts for the bolts and the right spanner to use. 

    If yougive us a budget and your location wel lsort you out - once you have done it once you wont look back.

    I ccan build a pc in 40 minutes taking my time - it takes longer to install the os (waiting around) than putting the pc tgether but realistically if you are doing yourself for the fist time it might take a bit longer.

    I started building pcs a few years ago after watching a video like that  - now all my m8s and strangers think im some kind of genius - i am not -  it is just a simple process thay is very rewarding to learn and get into and ultimately means you a/ have another  skill you can sell /carteer you can get into if you want b/saves you a lot of $ over your lifetime c/end up wit ha better pc than you can buy for anything like the same $

    Caveat Emptor

  • skamperskamper Member UncommonPosts: 252

    Same boat as some here. I was always wanting to build my own computer, but was so afraid to put 1400 down to do it. I've built one before this back when I was 15 (now 20) so I had almost no idea. Just read and get input on everything you pick. Try posting your comp on tomshardware.com forums also.

    Well I'm here now typing from it. :)

     

    Most recent build for brother:

    asus x48

    4gb gskill 1066mhz

    3.0ghz E8400

    4870x2 <-- amazing

    antec 900

    corsair 750w

    vista 32

     

     

    This comp is just a beast.

  • EoDzeroEoDzero Member Posts: 45

    Just a heads up new pc with vista you will have to install vista with only 2gram(3g or less). If you try and put both of your 2g sticks in you will bluescreen on vista install. Once you install vista and update it you can put the other stick in.

  • ThunderballsThunderballs Member Posts: 365

    good job for a noob !

    Ditch the artic bollocks paste - if you get retail version of processor you do not need it - infact it will be harder to fi the processor becasuer youll be scraping off the paste on the fan to replace with that paste - you dont want or need it.

    Miht consider a quad core a lot of gamers rate them and it gives you a bit more flexibility and it isnt a big issue TBH between a good duo and a good quad plus you can change in the future too easy enough.

    Maybe go for a crossfire capable board. eg Asus P5E.    I have that GFX card and it rocks - it will go crossfire = 2 of them lol and there is an X2 version yuoll have come accross and I believe you can run 2 of those in crossfire - thats some serious graphics pwer under the hood !    chances are youll be able to pick up a second pretty cheaply in 6 motnhs to a year and run them in crossfire.  I am not entirely sure but you might be able to an x2 and effectivey have 3 - but that might not give any real benefit - in any case a crossfire board gives you more flexibility for expanding graphics.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p5e_2.html#sect0  i went for a gigabyte one but wasnt a lot in it

    http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?49147  is a bit excessive - not released yet  but you get the picture lol now 4 4 graphics cards in crossfire - that sounds interesting !

    Id get better quality ram - faster ram.  I know it looks like you are being screwed but faster ram pays off.  Nice 2 gb fast stuff out there arnd it doesnt cost  lot more but will make a difference.

    Well done getting a decent Power supply - so many people skimp and regret it - thats ps will be rock solid.

    You can prob buy a cheaper case.   I got one that was $40 and it is fine.  sometimes it seems like the case is important it really isnt.  If you get a decent sized case that looks reasonably pleasing it will do the job.   Id rrather spend the extra $60 elsewhere e g gaming mouse / headset.

    look at the cache n the hard drive - can get some at same price near enough with a higher cache.   Higher cache = less lag from the drive but it is marginal.   In my mibd it isnt really worth splashing on a raptor drive unless you playing certain types of games or have the cash. nice to have if you are.

    You donmt need any fancy cooling - but you can add some case fans if you want in the future,  I read the gfx card runs hot - mine runs 24/7 and its fine and my new pc produces alot less heat than older pcs with fairly average cards in.

    Go xp maybe not vista- Xp is stable and uses less resources.  Unless there issomething in vista you need - which i doubt - xp is arguably a better choice.  Easy to add vista later.

    When you instaal your OS make a couple of partitions on your Hard Drive.

    Thats it - imporessive job you did there.

     

     

    Caveat Emptor

  • skamperskamper Member UncommonPosts: 252

    Actually no XP is not the better choice. If you still think that in 2008 after SP1 you're just an ignorant fool.

  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Originally posted by Thunderballs


    good job for a noob !
    Ditch the artic bollocks paste - if you get retail version of processor you do not need it - infact it will be harder to fi the processor becasuer youll be scraping off the paste on the fan to replace with that paste - you dont want or need it. The Artic Freezer 7 Pro is a CPU Fan so he needs the paste.
    Miht consider a quad core a lot of gamers rate them and it gives you a bit more flexibility and it isnt a big issue TBH between a good duo and a good quad plus you can change in the future too easy enough. Few games use the 4 cores and there aren't many planned for the future so quad is a waste. Plus if he gets quad there's no point getting less than the the Q9550 which is nearly double the E8500.
    Maybe go for a crossfire capable board. eg Asus P5E.    I have that GFX card and it rocks - it will go crossfire I think you mean SLI, crossfire is ATI only = 2 of them lol and there is an X2 version yuoll have come accross and I believe you can run 2 of those in crossfire - thats some serious graphics pwer under the hood !    chances are youll be able to pick up a second pretty cheaply in 6 motnhs to a year and run them in crossfire.  I am not entirely sure but you might be able to an x2 and effectivey have 3 - but that might not give any real benefit - in any case a crossfire board gives you more flexibility for expanding graphics. With a X48 board you can run 3 in crossfire but as few MMOs use ii will there be any point.
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p5e_2.html#sect0  i went for a gigabyte one but wasnt a lot in it
    http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?49147  is a bit excessive - not released yet  but you get the picture lol now 4 4 graphics cards in crossfire - that sounds interesting !
    Id get better quality ram - faster ram.  I know it looks like you are being screwed but faster ram pays off.  Nice 2 gb fast stuff out there arnd it doesnt cost  lot more but will make a difference.
    Well done getting a decent Power supply - so many people skimp and regret it - thats ps will be rock solid.
    You can prob buy a cheaper case. Cheaper case means worse airflow so if you're going to OC at some point it will be detrimental  I got one that was $40 and it is fine.  sometimes it seems like the case is important it really isnt.  If you get a decent sized case that looks reasonably pleasing it will do the job.   Id rrather spend the extra $60 elsewhere e g gaming mouse / headset.
    look at the cache n the hard drive - can get some at same price near enough with a higher cache.   Higher cache = less lag from the drive but it is marginal.   In my mibd it isnt really worth splashing on a raptor drive unless you playing certain types of games or have the cash. nice to have if you are.
    You donmt need any fancy cooling - but you can add some case fans if you want in the future,  I read the gfx card runs hot - mine runs 24/7 and its fine and my new pc produces alot less heat than older pcs with fairly average cards in.
    Go xp maybe not vista- Xp is stable and uses less resources.  Unless there issomething in vista you need - which i doubt - xp is arguably a better choice.  Easy to add vista later. Vista is only bad with old components which don't have drivers. SP1 and newer revisons of drivers plus DX10 (10.1) make vist athe better choice.
    When you instaal your OS make a couple of partitions on your Hard Drive.
    Thats it - imporessive job you did there.
     
     

     

  • Tyrone0706Tyrone0706 Member Posts: 21

    Great Feedback! I'm putting in a little extra time at work and hopefully I'll be ordering one/putting it together soon.

    Appreciate all the feedback I've gotten, it's helped a lot in my decision.

  • vmopedvmoped Member Posts: 1,708

    This is one I just ordered with OC'ing in mind and planning on getting 1:1 ratio. I went with the 4850 (with the added aftermarket cooler) since I mainly play on a 22" LG playing mainly MMO's (WAR mainly atm) and do music/video editing on the side:



    CASE ANTEC NINE HUNDRED

    CPU THERMPASTE ARCTIC SILVER5

    CPU COOL XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 (retention bracket)

    MB ASUS P5Q3 DELUXE/WIFI-AP

    CPU INTEL C2Q Q9550 2.83 (plan on OC to 3.4)

    VGA ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M

    PSU CORSAIR|CMPSU-550VX 550W

    MEM 2Gx2|PATRIOT PDC24G6400LLK (8Gb total)

    HD 500G|ST 7K 32M SATA2

    DVD BURN LITE-ON

    CPU COOLER XIGMATEK HDT-S1283

    MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

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