To those of you who are considering giving EQ2 a try, it is a great game. It is not, nor has it ever been a WoW clone. The graphics are superior (that said, you do need a good machine to make it look that way and I agree this needs some work, especially for a four year old game), the game play is superior and it is not as easy as some here seem to think. It is certainly not "WoW" easy... It is the best PvE/quest game out there in my opinion and I have tried every major MMORPG to be released. I keep coming back to EQ2. (The PvP may be lacking, but then I am not a big fan of PvP.) There are, as I have recently realized, a lot of people in these forums who simply hate SOE and anything SOE puts out due to some old grudges.
Two years, too late if you ask me, that’s how long I been off EQ2, and I’m glad for it. I'll stick with CoA when they get the bugs out and performance issues out of the way.
TBH, the health of EQ2 PvP server experienced a severe dip when adventurer experience was forced on player kills. With top tier always plagued by over-powered Rogues and imbalanced itemization (favoring melee, extreme resists to magic have always been available end-game), many players made alternative characters to enjoy the variance in content, that of which was a lot more even-footed than in the other level ranges.
Having jumped to nerf this level-locking playstyle PvE players complained about on the forums, SOE blasted the longevity had throughout the expanse of their game's content, at least for PvP servers. Now, PvP in T2-T3 is sparse compared to what it had been, and T5-T7 zones, and PvP therein, is typically barren. SOE will never recoup their losses even one iota in this degree, as they've far too great an arrogant air about their aim for the game when what's done is done.
The reformation began from a PvE player who wouldn't accept the need to respawn elsewhere and find other areas to quest in aside from the beginning area, who then created a thread that amassed 55 pages. Game Update #41 was when EQ2 PvP happy land turned from its righteous, tumultuous stand -- about 6 & 1/2 months after that thread began.
If yes, then howcome? Most of the stuff I read here is all negative about EQ2....
"They dont do this, this sucks, that sucks they never do this, they clone this, they steal this"
Why do you still play it if all the stuff you say is negative? Are there any good things about EQ2?
I do agree, there could be some improvement in EQ2, but this game isnt much worse then any other mmorpg. Take WOW for example..
ive heard LOTS of people brag on how great this is compared to EQ2 and every other game..
so i tried it. and was totally shocked, I thought I was playinga childs game. the characters look way too fake. sure the graphics there are better then EQ, but thats it. SO what happened??? I deleted it a few min later, was just so disappointed . Of course, like EQ, this is only a taste and everyone has different tastes ( gott sei dank)
ps. the Guild Halls look awesom!!!!
Qeynosus mystic-RP oowah -PvP Pro Ratholameau - PvP Pro
Yes, i still play eq2, I like it as its not such a demanding game as I cant play games like that as i have kids, but it still has it's challenges in dungeons and raids. I am very pleased spirit shards are gone as well as the overly complicated crafting combines that used to make crafting boring and rediculously unessecarily stupid.
dudes,Do you all still play EQ2? If yes, then howcome? Most of the stuff I read here is all negative about EQ2.... "They dont do this, this sucks, that sucks they never do this, they clone this, they steal this" Why do you still play it if all the stuff you say is negative? Are there any good things about EQ2? I do agree, there could be some improvement in EQ2, but this game isnt much worse then any other mmorpg. Take WOW for example.. ive heard LOTS of people brag on how great this is compared to EQ2 and every other game.. so i tried it. and was totally shocked, I thought I was playinga childs game. the characters look way too fake. sure the graphics there are better then EQ, but thats it. SO what happened??? I deleted it a few min later, was just so disappointed . Of course, like EQ, this is only a taste and everyone has different tastes ( gott sei dank) ps. the Guild Halls look awesom!!!!
I wouldn't expect many avid EverQuest II players to visit MMORPG.com, as it has pretty much zero relevant, consistent coverage to us playas. Places like EQ2 Wiki, Allakhazam, or EQ2 Traders are those where the readership could look to find meaningful EQ2 audiences.
ya, it seems like mmorpg.com is a place where those that cant make it in EQ2 go and whine and complain about it.lol
i prefer Allakahazam or others too.
to be honest, EQ2 is the most life like, funnest, thing out at the moment,
Of course there is lots of room for inprovement, but what game couldnt use inprovements?
the only think I have to complain on EQ2 about is the epic weapons. Ever since they made the epic quest available and everyone can now get their epics, it took out the excitement in it. to much epic weapons now, they should reduce the amount or something.
Qeynosus mystic-RP oowah -PvP Pro Ratholameau - PvP Pro
No game is perfect. EQ2 is definitely flawed in some aspects, but it got many other things right. So what if it took time to get around to guildhalls? It's not an essential part of the game. It's just nice to have.
EQ2 is one of the most flexible PvE games I've ever played, and it's still fairly true to the spirit of the original 'graphical MUD'. Either you hate that style of game or you love it. If you like WoW more, then play WoW. If you like EQ2 more, then play EQ2. From what I've seen of the population, it's fairly stable. There is enough of a playerbase that I bump into people when I'm online all the time, whether it's offpeak American hours (since I play on Crushbone) or onpeak. That's what matters to me if I want to group.
Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.
What I want to know is where these "WOW clone" comments are coming from? What is a clone? How?
To me some of these negative comments seem more like "bash the competition" or "I hate SOE so I'm gonna take it out on X" posts than anything actually worth paying attention to. Different strokes for different folks, so if EQ2 isn't your cup of tea then find a game that is. No game is perfect and I'll be the first to say it has issues, but in spite of it all I am still playing four years later.
Being overly harsh, critical or just plain trolling is just dumb.
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To those of you who are considering giving EQ2 a try, it is a great game. It is not, nor has it ever been a WoW clone. The graphics are superior (that said, you do need a good machine to make it look that way and I agree this needs some work, especially for a four year old game), the game play is superior and it is not as easy as some here seem to think. It is certainly not "WoW" easy... It is the best PvE/quest game out there in my opinion and I have tried every major MMORPG to be released. I keep coming back to EQ2. (The PvP may be lacking, but then I am not a big fan of PvP.) There are, as I have recently realized, a lot of people in these forums who simply hate SOE and anything SOE puts out due to some old grudges.
Two years, too late if you ask me, that’s how long I been off EQ2, and I’m glad for it. I'll stick with CoA when they get the bugs out and performance issues out of the way.
TBH, the health of EQ2 PvP server experienced a severe dip when adventurer experience was forced on player kills. With top tier always plagued by over-powered Rogues and imbalanced itemization (favoring melee, extreme resists to magic have always been available end-game), many players made alternative characters to enjoy the variance in content, that of which was a lot more even-footed than in the other level ranges.
Having jumped to nerf this level-locking playstyle PvE players complained about on the forums, SOE blasted the longevity had throughout the expanse of their game's content, at least for PvP servers. Now, PvP in T2-T3 is sparse compared to what it had been, and T5-T7 zones, and PvP therein, is typically barren. SOE will never recoup their losses even one iota in this degree, as they've far too great an arrogant air about their aim for the game when what's done is done.
The reformation began from a PvE player who wouldn't accept the need to respawn elsewhere and find other areas to quest in aside from the beginning area, who then created a thread that amassed 55 pages. Game Update #41 was when EQ2 PvP happy land turned from its righteous, tumultuous stand -- about 6 & 1/2 months after that thread began.
dudes,Do you all still play EQ2?
If yes, then howcome? Most of the stuff I read here is all negative about EQ2....
"They dont do this, this sucks, that sucks they never do this, they clone this, they steal this"
Why do you still play it if all the stuff you say is negative? Are there any good things about EQ2?
I do agree, there could be some improvement in EQ2, but this game isnt much worse then any other mmorpg. Take WOW for example..
ive heard LOTS of people brag on how great this is compared to EQ2 and every other game..
so i tried it. and was totally shocked, I thought I was playinga childs game. the characters look way too fake. sure the graphics there are better then EQ, but thats it. SO what happened??? I deleted it a few min later, was just so disappointed . Of course, like EQ, this is only a taste and everyone has different tastes ( gott sei dank)
ps. the Guild Halls look awesom!!!!
Qeynosus mystic-RP
oowah -PvP Pro
Ratholameau - PvP Pro
Yes, i still play eq2, I like it as its not such a demanding game as I cant play games like that as i have kids, but it still has it's challenges in dungeons and raids. I am very pleased spirit shards are gone as well as the overly complicated crafting combines that used to make crafting boring and rediculously unessecarily stupid.
playing eq2 and two worlds
I wouldn't expect many avid EverQuest II players to visit MMORPG.com, as it has pretty much zero relevant, consistent coverage to us playas. Places like EQ2 Wiki, Allakhazam, or EQ2 Traders are those where the readership could look to find meaningful EQ2 audiences.
ya, it seems like mmorpg.com is a place where those that cant make it in EQ2 go and whine and complain about it.lol
i prefer Allakahazam or others too.
to be honest, EQ2 is the most life like, funnest, thing out at the moment,
Of course there is lots of room for inprovement, but what game couldnt use inprovements?
the only think I have to complain on EQ2 about is the epic weapons. Ever since they made the epic quest available and everyone can now get their epics, it took out the excitement in it. to much epic weapons now, they should reduce the amount or something.
Qeynosus mystic-RP
oowah -PvP Pro
Ratholameau - PvP Pro
No, MMORPG.com is a place that people go searching for a general overview of the MMOG world, MUDs and HTML-based options aside.
No game is perfect. EQ2 is definitely flawed in some aspects, but it got many other things right. So what if it took time to get around to guildhalls? It's not an essential part of the game. It's just nice to have.
EQ2 is one of the most flexible PvE games I've ever played, and it's still fairly true to the spirit of the original 'graphical MUD'. Either you hate that style of game or you love it. If you like WoW more, then play WoW. If you like EQ2 more, then play EQ2. From what I've seen of the population, it's fairly stable. There is enough of a playerbase that I bump into people when I'm online all the time, whether it's offpeak American hours (since I play on Crushbone) or onpeak. That's what matters to me if I want to group.
Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.
What I want to know is where these "WOW clone" comments are coming from? What is a clone? How?
To me some of these negative comments seem more like "bash the competition" or "I hate SOE so I'm gonna take it out on X" posts than anything actually worth paying attention to. Different strokes for different folks, so if EQ2 isn't your cup of tea then find a game that is. No game is perfect and I'll be the first to say it has issues, but in spite of it all I am still playing four years later.
Being overly harsh, critical or just plain trolling is just dumb.