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WAR 120 lvls? ha ha come on...
oinyo
Member Posts: 59
Come on. What are they thinking. Thank god WoW is not falling into this trap. I dont want to spend a year getting max lvl to enjoy the game. I want to max in a week or 2 so I can enjoy guild raids with my guild.
I just found out in WAR you lvl up to 40 in pve then start going up 80 lvls in PVP
pve = 40 lvls
PVP = 80 lvls
= 120 lvl.
come on.. what were they thinking.. I would much rather have the WoW system where I get tickets for cool items rather then xp and lvls. What happens if I want to pvp and I am lvl 4 and some lvl 80 jackass finds me? 
At least with tickets I have a fair chance still and wont get completely owned.
In any case I think this is going to hurt WAR heavily. Who the hell wants to get PVP xp and lvls? PvP should simply be for a quick meaningless battle. Keep it to the PVE raids to have purpose...
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IMO i found the Open RVR in WAR the best part of the game i sat there for hours and had a blast so no biggie for me
The question most of us probably have to ask is... If you are lvl like 10 and a lvl 80 pvp guy rushes at you. Is there any chance in hell?
Also in global pvp what stops some max char coming to greif me as a noob starting the game? Lol this is a pain in every mmo and I am sure none have found a way to counter it. That will probably also be a game killer.
You get gear and stats from your RvR lvls. Whats the difference from having 80 RvR lvls or requiring XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX tickets or factions?
You get gear and stats from your RvR lvls. Whats the difference from having 80 RvR lvls or requiring XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX tickets or factions?
I am thinking if you lvl up and get better stats, skills, spells this will really gimp the lower player? Or am I wrong?
Uh you have your info somewhat confused. You get pve and pvp lvls simultaneously. In PvP, you get xp for both actually.
If a lvl 40 (40 is the max level not 80) tries to kill you in a pvp zone appropriate to your level, he will turn into a chicken upon entering the zone and not do squat to you.
How exactly do you have a fair chance when you are level 4 and a Level 80 finds you, if a ticket system is used? I presume you mean 40.
All right, so let's say you have the ticket system. So you spent hours and hours getting your tickets and have your cool items now.
And in WAR you spent all that time gaining RvR XP and Levels. Seems to me that you gain more for your time in WAR than you do in WoW. *shrugs*
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
I logged on at school to answer this because it's such an absurd complaint. First of all, you start going up RvR levels as soon as you start PvPing, not at level 40. So by the time you ARE level 40, you're already well on your way. Second, the RvR levels are seperate because they only pertain to PvP combat, not to PvE. But in NO WAY do they scale like normal levels! A level 40 would destroy a level 20 (thus the precautions to keep ganking impossible) but a Realm Rank 80 doesn't compare at all in the same way to a RR40. The Realm Ranks allow for new gear and some special skills, but they don't increase your HP, your stats, or give you the next most powerful skill. Plus, as I said, you'd probably be about RR40 (only guessing, as I haven't gotten to play to 40 yet) by the time you get to level 40.
I see.. lol well that shut me up..
Why do I keep hearing about lvl 80 from people? :P
What the hell is the chicken thing about? Sounds funny as hell. Have a link so I can read up on it?
My ignorance on this game is slowly going away.. I still hate it as being a competator of my WoW though lol :P
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Yeah the reason I am so raging on WAR is because my guild abandoned me for that damn game
Now I roam solo...
And why on on earth should you? It's this mentality that has continued the degradation fo the MMO to the least common denomintor. Why you think your two day toon shoudl be able to compete with someone who has spent months or years on a character is absurd. If you want to paly a game where everyone is born equal feel free to log onto CS:S or UT3.
Well, yeah, that kinda sucks. Guess you should just come on over to WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chicken rule short and simple: You a high level, you go to a PvP area of a lower tier, you get turned into a chicken.
Also your main post was definetely a little confused hehe. Before you hate, read up on the game, you might find it's *gasp* better than WoW.
Ahem, this is'nt WoW..
Its WAR and the game is centric around RvR / PvP if you missed that memo.
Wow, a whole lot of constructive threads, and one asshole who comes and ruins it all.
OP, I assure you the rest of the WAR community is not like Nims.
Well everyone besides Nims pretty much changed my outlook a little. I actually am opening the WAR forum to check it out a little :P Dont worry though most of my old guild is like Nims so I am used to it
the " Everyone is retarded except me/ everyone that doesnt think like me is a idiot " people make up most of my old guild 
Oinyo, I'd be glad to help you out as it seems you are confused and misinformed by people who have obvious hate toward the game. There is no reason you should hate this game because people you know are leaving WoW. You should be glad that competition is coming out, it will make any other game better. Allow me to explain.
In Warhammer Online you have Regular Ranks and Renown Ranks. Think of renown ranks like Honor ranks in WoW.
You can start PvPing from level 1 in this game. The moment you join the game you can go do a scenario (a battleground basically) and start gaining EXP for both Regular and Renown Ranks. You do not have to reach Rank 40 in order to get Renown Rank 2. Here is an example.
Over the preview weekend me and 3 friends were leveling through the battlegrounds since money and loot both drop. By the time we reached Rank (Level) 12 we were already Renown Rank 11. Renown ranks allow you to obtain armor by PvPing, much like the honor system in WoW, except that you do not have to purchase them with honor or tokens, just money. The catch is that all the higher level Renown Rank gear is obtained in the RvR (Realm vs Realm) areas, and unless your realm controls those keeps (there are tons for each pairing, you should be able to find them anywhere) you will not be able to purchase your gear, so you must fight for it.
Besides armor, renown ranks also allow you to purchase new abilities and also upgrade your stats. www.wardb.com/search.aspx there is a good example of the type of abilities you can get. As you spend a certain amount of points, you can move on to higher tiers and more renown abilities.
But what if you're the type of person who does not want to RvR to get gear? Then there will be dungeons for you to explore and get gear that way.
You asked a question about what if a Level 40 Renown Rank 40 (Level 80) comes to your lowbie zone? He will be perfectly fine until he flags for RvR, at that instant he will be turned into a chicken. He will have 1hp and he will have an ability called Peck that does 1 damage. You could slaughter him.
If you have any more questions I'll be glad to help, but know that people will be very defensive because people that have information like me, don't like having to repeat things over and over again to every person out there that does not want to search for information themselves.
WAR combat is slow and boring. Especially for melee characters who just stand there and press a button every 2 seconds, and if the person you are fighting runs, you actually have to move forward and follow them. The last part is most likely the more entertaining.....
None of the classes in WAR even compare to WoW, and the PvE is pathetic. Trust me, stay away from WAR. WoW is a much better game, with more than just RvR content that is actually decent.
Wow thank you Vind. This is completely different then what I was lead to believe. Yeah... I am reading the web site and forums now and my outlook is doing a complete 180
At this rate I may be a little crazy and pre order the game myself!
Of course I will fond another guild. I am tired of the asshole elitists in my old one
* miss 2 raids and you are kicked out
Dude it's not a good idea the combat is terrible don't make the same mistake I did and preorder.
I may wait a week or 2 and see what people say before I buy. I got bitten on the ass attempting AOC :P My punishment for leaving WoW
eq2js, its fine that you don't like the game, by why do you have to go around spouting negative non truths? Are you afraid that you will lose in game friends and guild mates? I understand you love wow, its obvious judging from your post history. All of your negatives have been dis-proven before.
If you think combat in WAR is stand around and hit a button every 2 seconds, then you are a noob, a newb, a nub, and any other variation of scrub you can think of. Your absurd statement makes it unlikely you've pre ordered the game, much less played it. The combat in WAR is not any less deep, or slow than WoW's I can guarantee you that.
EDIT: You know what, I just figured out why he thinks combat is slow and people stand around while fighting. He probably watched a video of someone fighting a mob and just sitting there hacking at it. Obviously you stand around and hit a mob for PVE, you do the same thing in every game. In PVP it's a whole different story. I also like how tanks can actually TANK in WAR against people because of collision detection, lets see wow do that.
I may wait a week or 2 and see what people say before I buy. I got bitten on the ass attempting AOC :P My punishment for leaving WoW
That's respectable. I personally never pre order something unless I KNOW it will be good (GTA IV, World fo Warcraft (was in the beta then too), Dark Age of Camelot). I don't even do that with movies. I will NOT go see a movie on release night unless I KNOW it will be good, like Iron Man and The Dark Knight.
Anyone who says combat in WAR is slow and boring is missing the whole point. If you are expecting to have a godly character who can 1 or 2 host other players, then yes.... you will find combat boring and slow. If you are expecting your melee DPS class to demolish a tank without a fight, you're not getting it. If however you back up and watch what's actually going on you'll be pleasantly surprised.
1. Tanks are viable and even necessary in RvR!! (zomg)
You will find that tanks have abilities and skills that allow them to hold tactical positions in both open and scenario RvR (BGs for those who don't follow). A prime example, I assisted in a keep defense on my chosen during the preview weekend. During this time I was able to block a stairwell which lead up to a higher fortress level with two dedicated healers. This allowed my ranged DPS to literally chew the order force to pieces while they focused on getting me out of their way. Player collision is a beutiful thing!
Second, tanks are flag takers.... We found out that in RvR scenarios groups who ended up stacked with excess ranged or even melee dps were not capable of living long enough to capture flags. you need to have someone who can take the punishment for the duration of the cap.... tanks with healers fit the bill.
2. Tactics matter!!!
If you are involved in a battle and are actually paying attention to what is going on then you will be more than busy enough to avoid boredom. If however you're one of those people who played a hunter by standing in one place and killing people as they came by.... yeah, you'll be disappointed. In WAR you have to constantly adjust your position and attacks based on the fight that is going on around you. You don't stand there and jam one button every time it cools down, you adjust and adapt to the combat. I mean, you don't have to, but you will indeed suck the fatty if you choose not to.
the RvR levels don't make as much of a difference. They're more used to buy renown skills...
Anyways, it's better than having everyone the same level! At least with this greater range, we'll have the traditional wide spread of levels.
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Will play: not WAR, HELLO KITTY ONLINE!!11one
Playing: EVE
Played: EQ (+all expansions too), Asheron''s Call 2, Anarchy Online, Planet Side, EQ2, WoW (+TBC), EVE