I'm scared cause there will be no NPC to buy stuff from. Its gonna be all players so its gonna be hard to buy weapons and stuff. EQ2 is scary! WOW will be better. (I hate to say and em very sad to say)
I think that with time Everquest II could become better than Everquest the original, but it is going to take a lot of time to put that much detail into one game. Everquest has a bunch of expansions and is a place where people are familiar and comfortable with their surroundings and it is going to take a long time for people to feel that way in the new Everquest, but yes, with lots of patches and suggestions from the players and with lots of time (months, possibly years) it could surpass the original. Again, in my opinion.
-65 dark elf, Archoness of the Nameless.
- Tienaere Damondred, 70High Priestess of the Nameless -Onela Damondred, Necro/Ranger of Guild Wars. -Onela, Magician/Wizard of Ragnarok.
I'm scared cause there will be no NPC to buy stuff from. Its gonna be all players so its gonna be hard to buy weapons and stuff. EQ2 is scary! WOW will be better. (I hate to say and em very sad to say)
Dunno who you're getting your info from but you need to fire them. There will be PLENTY of NPCs in the game. Infact everything can be bought from NPCs pretty much. All items and spells and such have 12 "levels" to it. So basically you could have 2 copies of the same item but one is better cause it has a higher "level".
Basically stuff you get from common mobs is "level", the lowest you can get. If you bought that same item from a NPC it'd be "level 2" and slightly better. If it were Crafter made it'd be "level 3" and again, slightly better. It goes up from there using combinations of drops, quest rewards, crafters skill, etc.
Same works for spells. When you level you get some spells automatically for free. These will be level 1. If you find a copy of that spell as a drop it'll be level 2 and slightly more powerful. If you go to a Sage and have them craft you the spell, it'll be level 3 and a tad more powerful, and on up etc.
Richard J. Cox "There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Will EQ2 be more played then EQ was? That is another question completely.
Many players have misconceptions of EQ(like me) when they buy it. Many players didnt know what they like and what they dont, what they can bear and what they cant, before playing EQ. EQ2 is coming and the market is filling with customers with tastes, not noobs customers! Of course, there will be new noobs customers, but many noobs customers have little money(kids) and can mostly try their parents games.
I dont think EQ2 will have half the success of EQ, yet, it will most definitely be a superior game, by MUCH! EQ draw many players that try it then move to something else when they dont like the game, yet, they move more or less fast, some stay there longer because it was NEW! Like the first time you join a chatroom, you have no idea what you are doing there, you hardly care about the topic, but you try to figure out what is going out and what this is all about, and you give it many more chances then you give to future chatrooms.
- "Coercing? No no, I assure you, they are willing to bring my bags and pay public transportation just to help me, it is true!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Better in almost all ways and certainly more played. Expect to see EQ servers fall and collapse rapidly once the new game is out. I only still play EQ because I like MMORPG's and am waiting for something better.
EQ was a beauty in its time, but so was Phyllis Diller.
Originally posted by Billius8 Better in almost all ways and certainly more played. Expect to see EQ servers fall and collapse rapidly once the new game is out. I only still play EQ because I like MMORPG's and am waiting for something better. EQ was a beauty in its time, but so was Phyllis Diller.
*shrug*
I am no survey...but the only peoples that plan playing EQ2 are peoples currently playing EQ in my surrounding. Even if EQ2 convince a few more to try it...it leave many many many players that did play EQ not playing EQ2 and not many newcomers...*shrug*
But yes, the game will be a LOT better then old EQ. No doubt.
- "Coercing? No no, I assure you, they are willing to bring my bags and pay public transportation just to help me, it is true!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Well I know EQ2 is better than EQ1 as far as graphics are concerned, but the hardware needed to render that well ( well being 30+ fps with 4x FSAA and settings maxxed )would be something like: ATi 9800xt-x800xt or nVidia GF 6 series, and at least a gig of ram and a p4 3.0+ or AMD equal. As far as gameplay is concerned I dont know, it looks good but would have to try it out and I didnt get into beta
id like to reply to Berra2k thats a couple post down from me... Dude plz dont get WoW. now putting gameplay aside because not everyone knows how gameplay is gonna be. Think of the Community that WoW is gonna get. Its gonna be all the Warcraft and Diablo Kids and some Noobs. Now that doesnt sound like a great community to me. We all remember the old diablo PK days .... Now as with EQ 2 the community should be much much better. and i hope alot of the EQ vets come and play cause it will make it an awsome community and will help shape the noops into what kind of community EQ 2 should be about. Didnt mean to try and Start WoW and EQ2 war just my opionion.
Better? Don't know about that.. I do know that they will want to sell all access passes to squeeze every dollar from addicts so don't expect a game designed to immediately collapse EQ1.
I don't think there's any way anything is going to totally collapse EQ1. There's too many die hard players and too many that can't afford to have their computers upgraded to play EQ2. My boyfriend has been a long time player of EQ and there are people in his guild that aren't planning on playing EQ2. Eventually I would love to play EQ2 but honestly, I can't afford to upgrade my computer to where I want it to be so I can play the game the way I want to play it. I don't see the point in playing a game with such awesome graphics, but can't view them all because it gets too laggy. I already have enough problems with the lag in Plane of Knowledge in EQ1. One day when I get a new puter maybe. Till then I'll watch the movies and long to play haha!
EQ2 will be a better game of course, but it won't be nearly as popular. (EverQuest is a pretty bad game itself, it'd be hard to make a worse game. What makes EQ popular is the well established gaming communities.
EverQuest's biggest advantage was that it came in on the "ground floor" when there wasn't many options.
What keeps a MMORPG going is strong gaming communities. EverQuest itself is boring and repetitive with not much to look at, but the communities are strong and it's them that keeps people logging on and subscriptions renewed.
EverQuest 2 will not have that benefit. Because it's a whole new game, and not an expansion to get into the new game, communities will have to make the jump over as a whole over into it.
And because in today's market, there are TONS of options, and no matter how great of a game it is, the gap between it and the "next best" will not be big enough to be the "no brainer" choice. And because there is a fairly fixed amount of people that play MMORPG's, they will have to pull people out of their current ones and into the new one. And, because a large portion of MMORPG players do not want to have subscriptions to multiple games, they will choose one or the other.
What EQ2 has to do to be successful is get communities to move into their game, not just individual players. Everyone who will play an MMORPG, is already playing an MMORPG. They've made their friends. If they can't get good strong gaming communities/guilds into it, then it'll float along in mediocrity like just about every other MMORPG out there.
World of Warcraft has already started getting gaming communities into it. It seems a fair amount of upper end guilds in EverQuest made the move over to WoW even in it's beta state.
I think, EverQuest 2 at best will be a flavor of the month. It'll get a great trial and sell a lot of copies, but the subscriptions will be terminated after 3 - 6 months when the next "greatest MMORPG ever" comes out.
I think EQ will definetly collapse after the release of EqII and WOW(not right away but within that year). All of the top guilds have already left( fires of heaven , afterlife etc. check their websites) And those were the most die hard eq players ever. People are fed up with eq, and why waste money being miserable when you can play an mmorpg that is fun?
I think due to the fact that our expectations for good online gaming has increased so much in the past few years, a lot of people are bashing this game because it's buggy and such. I think you need to realize that it's still in beta, I don't know if anyone else remembered but i was in everquest 1 beta and it was buggy as hell. I would find atleast a bug a day. To not give the same chance with any other game would be unfair. The greatest thing about everquest was that it was the first of it's kind to enter the mmorpg industry (from where i'm from anyway). Everquest 2 has sounded really exciting for me, and I have a friend that's beta testing it, I can't personally wait to get that beta invite. I want to see if it's as good as I hear it is.
I think the biggest hurdle EQII will have will be in its differences from the original. On the general scope, the original EQ wrote its own book on characters classes and thier abilities. EQII however, is going to redefine those abilities in major ways. Classes will carry some abilities over into this transition, yet lose some of the abilities they once had in EQ. Certain class defining abilities written into each class are being spread to other classes in EQII as well. Which I suspect will lead to EQ players feeling awkward about the gameplay, and may also affect thier perceptions of each individual class, with the basis of what they experienced in EQ looming in thier minds. Will EQII be better than EQ? I don't think it will be as much better, as it will be different. For the veteran EQ player, it will be more awkward at first than it is better. As they grow more accustomed to those differences between them, they'll be able to better determine for themselves which they feel is the better game. For players will little or no EQ history, it will be an entirely new experience, untainted by prior visions of its predecessor.
Graphically superiour that eq 1 but thats all i can say really atm, havent played it yet and waiting till nov 15 or if i win a beta but for how yes better graphically.
I think its pretty tough to say at this point. The first EQ is my favorite game of all time, but I am burned out on it and ready for a new mmorpg and have been for a year or more. I am sure many EQ players are ready for a change.
I have been following EQ2 closely hoping its the next great thing but personally I am very unimpressed with it graphically and around some ideas like the two city concept.
Even having read everything they release about the game really the graphics are the only thing solid I have to go on, and amazing as it may sound, I actually think the original EQ's outdated art is far superior to the ugly characters and terrain in EQ2. Hopefully that wont hold true for the gameplay and world design as well.
I agree totally Misti. Personally, I think the graphic avatars look sort of plastic. Shiny skin, shiny hair. Just..... well, plastic looking. Sort of like a mobile mannequin. But I may give the gameplay a go about a month or 2 after release so I have an opportunity to examine the feedback from the playerbase. If the gameplay seems solid, and the community seems to agree on the strong points fairly steadily, then i'll have enough to go on. EQLive has always been my favorite of all time as well, however bland it may be at times, each new expansion brings new things to explore. Even if the risk vs. reward is a bit skewed. Taking consistant breaks before each expansion keeps things a bit fresher and more tolerable. I'll likely return to EQLive prior to the EQII launch to explore the OOW expansion, and everything it has to offer while waiting on the EQII feedback I need to base my decision on.
Originally posted by FarScape I'm scared cause there will be no NPC to buy stuff from. Its gonna be all players so its gonna be hard to buy weapons and stuff. EQ2 is scary! WOW will be better. (I hate to say and em very sad to say)
No, No, No, there will be plenty of NPCs to purchase weapons from...The crapy or low level weapons will be purchased from NPCs however the best or upper level weapons and such will be purchased by player characters.
They have stated severel times that EQ2 is aimed at a different audience than the ones who play EQLive now. I guess they want to run both games at the same time with 2 different type of playerbases.
I think EQ2 will take away some EQLive players but not as much as anticipated
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-65 dark elf, Archoness of the Nameless.
- Tienaere Damondred, 70High Priestess of the Nameless
-Onela Damondred, Necro/Ranger of Guild Wars.
-Onela, Magician/Wizard of Ragnarok.
Dunno who you're getting your info from but you need to fire them. There will be PLENTY of NPCs in the game. Infact everything can be bought from NPCs pretty much. All items and spells and such have 12 "levels" to it. So basically you could have 2 copies of the same item but one is better cause it has a higher "level".
Basically stuff you get from common mobs is "level", the lowest you can get. If you bought that same item from a NPC it'd be "level 2" and slightly better. If it were Crafter made it'd be "level 3" and again, slightly better. It goes up from there using combinations of drops, quest rewards, crafters skill, etc.
Same works for spells. When you level you get some spells automatically for free. These will be level 1. If you find a copy of that spell as a drop it'll be level 2 and slightly more powerful. If you go to a Sage and have them craft you the spell, it'll be level 3 and a tad more powerful, and on up etc.
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
i think it may but i cant afford to play i doupt it will run on my PC untill i get a better grahics card or a new hardrive
Yes, EQ2 will be better then EQ.
Will EQ2 be more played then EQ was? That is another question completely.
Many players have misconceptions of EQ(like me) when they buy it. Many players didnt know what they like and what they dont, what they can bear and what they cant, before playing EQ. EQ2 is coming and the market is filling with customers with tastes, not noobs customers! Of course, there will be new noobs customers, but many noobs customers have little money(kids) and can mostly try their parents games.
I dont think EQ2 will have half the success of EQ, yet, it will most definitely be a superior game, by MUCH! EQ draw many players that try it then move to something else when they dont like the game, yet, they move more or less fast, some stay there longer because it was NEW! Like the first time you join a chatroom, you have no idea what you are doing there, you hardly care about the topic, but you try to figure out what is going out and what this is all about, and you give it many more chances then you give to future chatrooms.
- "Coercing? No no, I assure you, they are willing to bring my bags and pay public transportation just to help me, it is true!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Better in almost all ways and certainly more played. Expect to see EQ servers fall and collapse rapidly once the new game is out. I only still play EQ because I like MMORPG's and am waiting for something better.
EQ was a beauty in its time, but so was Phyllis Diller.
*shrug*
I am no survey...but the only peoples that plan playing EQ2 are peoples currently playing EQ in my surrounding. Even if EQ2 convince a few more to try it...it leave many many many players that did play EQ not playing EQ2 and not many newcomers...*shrug*
But yes, the game will be a LOT better then old EQ. No doubt.
- "Coercing? No no, I assure you, they are willing to bring my bags and pay public transportation just to help me, it is true!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
it woudl be cool if they added good vs. evil pvp
Well I know EQ2 is better than EQ1 as far as graphics are concerned, but the hardware needed to render that well ( well being 30+ fps with 4x FSAA and settings maxxed )would be something like: ATi 9800xt-x800xt or nVidia GF 6 series, and at least a gig of ram and a p4 3.0+ or AMD equal.
As far as gameplay is concerned I dont know, it looks good but would have to try it out and I didnt get into beta
EQ was a beauty in its time, but so was Phyllis Diller.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Dude. Seriously. Of course EQ2 is going to be better. That's what making new games is about.
I don't think there's any way anything is going to totally collapse EQ1. There's too many die hard players and too many that can't afford to have their computers upgraded to play EQ2. My boyfriend has been a long time player of EQ and there are people in his guild that aren't planning on playing EQ2. Eventually I would love to play EQ2 but honestly, I can't afford to upgrade my computer to where I want it to be so I can play the game the way I want to play it. I don't see the point in playing a game with such awesome graphics, but can't view them all because it gets too laggy. I already have enough problems with the lag in Plane of Knowledge in EQ1. One day when I get a new puter maybe. Till then I'll watch the movies and long to play haha!
EQ2 will be a better game of course, but it won't be nearly as popular. (EverQuest is a pretty bad game itself, it'd be hard to make a worse game. What makes EQ popular is the well established gaming communities.
EverQuest's biggest advantage was that it came in on the "ground floor" when there wasn't many options.
What keeps a MMORPG going is strong gaming communities. EverQuest itself is boring and repetitive with not much to look at, but the communities are strong and it's them that keeps people logging on and subscriptions renewed.
EverQuest 2 will not have that benefit. Because it's a whole new game, and not an expansion to get into the new game, communities will have to make the jump over as a whole over into it.
And because in today's market, there are TONS of options, and no matter how great of a game it is, the gap between it and the "next best" will not be big enough to be the "no brainer" choice. And because there is a fairly fixed amount of people that play MMORPG's, they will have to pull people out of their current ones and into the new one. And, because a large portion of MMORPG players do not want to have subscriptions to multiple games, they will choose one or the other.
What EQ2 has to do to be successful is get communities to move into their game, not just individual players. Everyone who will play an MMORPG, is already playing an MMORPG. They've made their friends. If they can't get good strong gaming communities/guilds into it, then it'll float along in mediocrity like just about every other MMORPG out there.
World of Warcraft has already started getting gaming communities into it. It seems a fair amount of upper end guilds in EverQuest made the move over to WoW even in it's beta state.
I think, EverQuest 2 at best will be a flavor of the month. It'll get a great trial and sell a lot of copies, but the subscriptions will be terminated after 3 - 6 months when the next "greatest MMORPG ever" comes out.
Shagz
EverQuest - Saryrn Server... Retired
Shagz
EverQuest - Shaman, Saryrn Server... Retired
WoW - Warrior, Alleria Server
I think EQ will definetly collapse after the release of EqII and WOW(not right away but within that year). All of the top guilds have already left( fires of heaven , afterlife etc. check their websites) And those were the most die hard eq players ever. People are fed up with eq, and why waste money being miserable when you can play an mmorpg that is fun?
It's pretty hard to compare the two, considering only things similar are names of 2 towns and some of the races.
I think due to the fact that our expectations for good online gaming has increased so much in the past few years, a lot of people are bashing this game because it's buggy and such. I think you need to realize that it's still in beta, I don't know if anyone else remembered but i was in everquest 1 beta and it was buggy as hell. I would find atleast a bug a day. To not give the same chance with any other game would be unfair. The greatest thing about everquest was that it was the first of it's kind to enter the mmorpg industry (from where i'm from anyway). Everquest 2 has sounded really exciting for me, and I have a friend that's beta testing it, I can't personally wait to get that beta invite. I want to see if it's as good as I hear it is.
The Wanderer
I think its pretty tough to say at this point. The first EQ is my favorite game of all time, but I am burned out on it and ready for a new mmorpg and have been for a year or more. I am sure many EQ players are ready for a change.
I have been following EQ2 closely hoping its the next great thing but personally I am very unimpressed with it graphically and around some ideas like the two city concept.
Even having read everything they release about the game really the graphics are the only thing solid I have to go on, and amazing as it may sound, I actually think the original EQ's outdated art is far superior to the ugly characters and terrain in EQ2. Hopefully that wont hold true for the gameplay and world design as well.
They have stated severel times that EQ2 is aimed at a different audience than the ones who play EQLive now. I guess they want to run both games at the same time with 2 different type of playerbases.
I think EQ2 will take away some EQLive players but not as much as anticipated