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OK someone needs to say something to the flamers
Eetherean
Member Posts: 94
honestly.
im not a big fan of funcom.
nor am i big fan of AoC (they really dropped the ball on this one. this could of been a RPers DREAM instead it became a boring grind.)
But support has improved and stepped up.
(I didn't buy game at launch and waited to get it for 7 bucks off of ebay) and i had an issue and emailed funcom and i got a reply within 24 hours. along with replies to every other email i sent.
Alot of people were complaining about lack of support and not getting responses for days on end. but that's commonplace in mmos. this kind of thing happens during the first month or so when a game is released. they sold like 500'000 copies. you know how many tickets they must be receiving?
now that the game has been out now and its cooled down support is back on track with replying in a timely matter.
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and I remember you guys were so vocal about how there was SUPPOSED to be dx10 and there isn't any and yelling about how they are scumbags and lied to everyone because they only said that to get the extra box sales.
does anyone remember the one guy that filed a report with the BBB over reporting false claims over dx10 on the sales box?
its obvious now that dx10 wasn't finished and finalized and was still being finished and patched about before its release.
i remember seeing so many of you yelling about this and now that it is finally close to implementation the very same people who were whining about it being gone are now on here whining about who cares about that even though we were just flaming for over a month about it we want content!
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you guys should of known better not invest in an mmo game on its release before its finished and patched up.
mmos are always gonna be rough on release and have ALOT of missing content.
now im not trying to say funcom is innocent or anything.
they are scumbags for what they did.
lieing about everything and trying to mask all the problems and hiring that scumbag (AND I MEAN ABSOLUTE SCUMBAG) of a pr agent (Erling Erlingson or whatever how you spell it).
they should of been honest with their player base and tell them what's up instead of hiding all the problems from them. maybe if they said
"hey we are running out of funding and are going to have to release the game a little earlier then expected. we are going to be lacking some content but we need to replace some of the funds so we can continue working on this game and making it everything we've been wanting it to be."
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But to all the people around who bought the game expecting it to be amazing.
you are JUST as much at fault as the rest of them.
The writing was on the wall.
the NDA wasn't lifted till release.
people came on here talking about what they had heard (myself included) before release trying to warn everyone.
there was information leaks from beta testers explaining that game had alot content and promised features outright MISSING.
the game was released VERY early (triple A games do NOT release the month that they did. if they had the proper funding which the obviously ran out of and pushed the release date they would of waited till late august- early september when all the triple a titles are released in fall.).
But what did you people do?
you flamed those people for doing that and trying to warn you.
Told them to get out, called them TROLLS.
Said to go back to Warhammer or WoW were they came from.
Saying about how they have know idea what they are talking about because they haven't even played the game. And just because they read some crap from some "supposed" sources doesn't mean its true.
And called them TROLLS once more.
well. shame on you.
This is what you get to reap.
And your upset that all along all those rumors WERE TRUE.
Next time. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.
Or you'll be stuck once again with an unfinished product.
Oh. And one more thing.
Welcome to online gaming.
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pfft, your post sounds noobish to me. blah blah blah
just kidding
I'm confused
Ooohhhh, VERY original thread.
Not.
probly the fairest thing i've read abou AoC so far
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Bugs and stuff are one thing, but saying things are ingame and you haven't even started developing them is another.
I wish there was a bait and switch law for software developers, because Funcom would be screwed.
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Your post is interesting, albeit contextually a bit blurry. So I'll just pretend that you are Erling Ellingssen (no pun intended):
"Welcome to online gaming."
-- Best regards,
Erling "Double chin" Ellingssen
"Go fuck yourself."
-- Best regards,
The forum warrior
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I stoped reading at the point where you you lumped AoC in with new mmo's. There are New MMO's then there is AoC.
I would personally slap any customer that thinks its ok to release garbage like AoC. I can understand a few bugs here and there, an MMO wont be perfect ever. I get so sick and tired of "its a new mmo" excuss, its just idiotic. You dont buy unfinished products else where. And for god sakes you dont defend it when you do. Consumers HAS to push producers in order to get better products. If everyone says "oh well aoc is new its ok to be like this", What the hell do you think the next mmo company is going to think? I will tell you this: they sure as hell wont bust their hump to make a better MMO at release. I could go on forever about these morons who defend faults with new MMO's with the new mmo excuss. Push the companies to get better, by us consumers not settling for sub-par mmo release, set the standard higher each release.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
yea i did not organize it very well.
I typed it up quickly in a heat of the moment kind of thing.
hey no fair!
I Was just calling him the scumbag pr agent.
OP, as long as people like you expect this to be a norm in MMOs, it will be. Additionally, as long as you put the blame back on the players, companies like Funcom can feel good about what they've done. After all, if the game isn't up to standards, it's the player's fault for buying it at release or expecting a finished product.
I couldn't disagree more. At the very least, Funcom engaged in shady business practices and they treat their customers like toilet paper. If you're cool with that, great! Good for you. Just don't ask me to feel the same way.
What he said. When you screw up something like a skill imbalance, that's one thing. Screwing up the cornerstone of what you hyped about the game, PvP, is a bit more than that. Characters in Seige battles have epileptic fits, the framerate is so low. A guy new to the game, gets to level 25, then quits because some retard is allowed to gank him. The PvE side is non-existent, because the storyline organization ends when you leave Tortage. These are more than missing walls or faulty fighting graphics. These are things that, if you don't get right out of the box, you lose subscribers.
I just know that any game company, no matter the rep, that wants me to get a new MMO, can kiss my ass. Get it right the first time. A new car may have a few bugs, but you expect to be able to drive it off the lot!
So to the OP, you buy a new car drive it off the lot n engine blows up...is that then your fault...cause it was actually you who believed the sales manager that it was a great car? I don't care what the product is, if the creators/devs release a half assed broken item, in no way is it the ppls fault for trusting the salespitch.
When Anarchy Online was down to a few thousand active players, the support still blew, in-game or via e-mail. It's not the circumstances, it's the policy. FC has always sh*t on players, AO was addictive and compelling enough that they could get away with it, Age of Conan wasn't even close, the Prima Dona attitude wouldn't fly this time 'round.
I blame people like you for the lack of new devs! Originality is like WAY DOWN in the gaming community and who is to blame! PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Why do I say this, well because people have lately been trolling, flaming and stalking companies. Scarying the hell out of devs to make something new. So instead new devs make a completely safe game that actually works and knows people will like it.
I am sorry to say this but YES IT IS THE PLAYERS FAULT FOR BUYING THE GAME! Why?! Well one there is such a thing as beta and open beta....Hmmm... Beta what is that!! WELL it is something for both the company and the players to test out the game. I personally believe that people were so hyped about this game that people hardly did and testing and did not really care or look into the problems there are currently.
So what can you do to make sure you are going to get a good game...
Well you can err READ REVIEWS!!! wow that is a smart move... Instead getting so hyped up about a game and going out to the store and pre-ordering sit down and read the reviews! That is why I also blame the FANBOYS!!! because they do not care how horrible the game is they will give the game a good REVIEW!! So don't listen to them!!!
So the score is +600k to funcom for making all that money on launch day and negative one million to the idiot players for being completly hyped up about this game and not thinking before buying.
P.S. I did not play this game at all. I actually got accepted into open beta but could not play because the launcher broke.... So that was my sign no to buy it..... I also was smart enough to read the reviews and not fall for the fanboys.
the magazine and respected website reviews were good for the most part. and i've never had a habit of reading forums until forum pvp became more fun that AOC.....judging a game from beta though? thats something i've never trusted
Balls up on so many levels, but in mmog youll always get a niche of players that effectively want their own little world to dominate and socialise in.
In AoC there will be a lot of these armchair despots rubbing their hands wit hglea at tehe prospect of finally having a guild or being in a guild thats playing for the top honours on a server and wouldnt dream of going elsewhere.
Wehn they post things like 'the game is improving" they really mean more people are leaving and soon they will be running the show on their server.
No way these types will go to another MMOG where there might be some competition involved,
Caveat Emptor
Edit - read the rest of your post and what I said is neither fair nor relevant. Apologies
Call them flamers or whatever
Point is that they are not lying. THey are giving out facts about the game - their opinion about the game and also the reason why they keep posting.
All of this are valid reasons to keep on pointing out what went wrong with AOC and what is still going on with the game.
Nothing has changed - Well... other than the game has gone from 9 in raiting down to 7.36
What funcom did went well past what other 'new' mmorpg's do.
We expect a dev to tell us their game is 'fun', 'innovative' and any other subjective descriptive term they can come up with.
Funcom lied about facts. they lied about pvp, about seiging, about endgame content, about dx10, about 1500 unique armor pieces etc etc... they lied to beta testers about what would be 'ready' for launch.. the same things that still are not in the game.
It's ok, and acceptable for a dev team to hype the fun factor of their game.. it's not acceptable for a company to just flat out lie about features that will be included at launch.
And if you think the player backlash isnt' effective.. look at the warhammer announcement a few weeks ago where they were upfront with players about what would not be ready at launch. I may be a romantic, but I think that was directly attributed to the player backlash against funcom. It would have been very easy for Mythic to kinda smudge the details and make it seem like the other 4 cities might be ready at launch.. instead they came out and told the players the truth, well before player bought a box.
Im sorry I have to disagree with you. Why? Because how can you give a fact on anything if you haven't been actively playing for several months. Im not saying you personally, im saying people that come on here and claim to be posting facts on a game that they cancelled the first 2 or 3 weeks.
Those people aren't providing facts, they are trying to provide anger filled false facts based on 2 or 3 weeks of game play and sometimes on lvls 1-20. If you played to lvl 80 and you come here and post nothing but negative garbage to people, there must of ben something you liked about the game to keep you around 80 levels.
Also how many hundreds if not thousands of posts do we need to point out what others think is wrong with a game, these days they are all pretty much saying the same thing.
I totally agree, as long as people accept beta quality releases as the norm, then companies will keep releasing poor quality products. It puzzles me why people have such low standards for MMO's (and expects everyone else to have those low standards) and will attack anyone who points out a games flaws or down right terrible state of release.
Im sorry I have to disagree with you. Why? Because how can you give a fact on anything if you haven't been actively playing for several months. Im not saying you personally, im saying people that come on here and claim to be posting facts on a game that they cancelled the first 2 or 3 weeks.
Those people aren't providing facts, they are trying to provide anger filled false facts based on 2 or 3 weeks of game play and sometimes on lvls 1-20. If you played to lvl 80 and you come here and post nothing but negative garbage to people, there must of ben something you liked about the game to keep you around 80 levels.
Also how many hundreds if not thousands of posts do we need to point out what others think is wrong with a game, these days they are all pretty much saying the same thing.
Well put. Also puts a lot of people on the spot. Why would you play to lvl 80 if you hated the game soo much?
Im sorry I have to disagree with you. Why? Because how can you give a fact on anything if you haven't been actively playing for several months. Im not saying you personally, im saying people that come on here and claim to be posting facts on a game that they cancelled the first 2 or 3 weeks.
Those people aren't providing facts, they are trying to provide anger filled false facts based on 2 or 3 weeks of game play and sometimes on lvls 1-20. If you played to lvl 80 and you come here and post nothing but negative garbage to people, there must of ben something you liked about the game to keep you around 80 levels.
Also how many hundreds if not thousands of posts do we need to point out what others think is wrong with a game, these days they are all pretty much saying the same thing.
Well put. Also puts a lot of people on the spot. Why would you play to lvl 80 if you hated the game soo much?
80 is when the "ok, now what?" questions started popping up....i hit 80 without even trying way too fast. also, plenty of people were enjoying the game until it got patched down in quality. plenty more are saying the pvp patch is a make or break patch for them or thier guild...but they are just hanging on long enough to see what happens with it.
oh, and some people will just complain as a form of conversation
I think woody1974 makes a fair point.
Many of the angry posts with regard to AoC do seem to be being made by people who say that they were so disappointed by game content, or disgusted by Funcom, that they cancelled their accounts and will never go near another Funcom game.
And that's fair enough of course.
But while they have every right to express their opinions and points of view, they cant of course comment on the state of the game as it is now, once they are no longer playing, as ongoing patches (which all game releases will always have to some degree) will have changed the game since they played.
Maybe a lot of information can be derived from forums and the official websites, but only anyone who is playing now can really appreciate the impact of (for example) yesterdays small patch.
Im sorry I have to disagree with you. Why? Because how can you give a fact on anything if you haven't been actively playing for several months. Im not saying you personally, im saying people that come on here and claim to be posting facts on a game that they cancelled the first 2 or 3 weeks.
Those people aren't providing facts, they are trying to provide anger filled false facts based on 2 or 3 weeks of game play and sometimes on lvls 1-20. If you played to lvl 80 and you come here and post nothing but negative garbage to people, there must of ben something you liked about the game to keep you around 80 levels.
Also how many hundreds if not thousands of posts do we need to point out what others think is wrong with a game, these days they are all pretty much saying the same thing.
Well put. Also puts a lot of people on the spot. Why would you play to lvl 80 if you hated the game soo much?
Easy answer. The company, EE in particular I beleive said "the game starts at 80" . So someone that wants to see the game as it was apparently designed would have to get to 80 to see the advanced combat, seiges etc that they had put in the game . They even went so far as to say that the leveling was fast because they wanted people to get to 80 to start experiencing the cutting edge game that is AOC.
Personnaly I woulkd like to thank the peoploe that stay on FC because it will force companies to think before they pull stunts like this again.
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