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Lets face it, Humans are animals.
Tyres100
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All humans are killers and animals inside. We still have our killer instincts. Just look at how many mothers have killed their babies and children. How men and women alike kill and have no remorse for life during WARS. Look at what people do to one another without thinking. Stories from war veterans are often surprising. My good friend who was in Vietnam told me once of a story of him driving through a base on the outskirts of a hot zone. A jeep passed his with 2 American soldiers who had 2 heads on spits on each side of the jeep. No doubt there was sick stuff done over the history of the humans.
I believe that the human instincts are turned off or for the most part kept locked up because of society and things we have that make us like this. Think about it. Religion for one keeps people SANE and having fun also with various forms of entertainment do this as well. But outside of this some people just kill for whatever reasons. It's like their brains wake up and all of a sudden kill or hurt others with no reasons.
This is a sad story but my main point being is that Caylee is dead. Polics say the child was dead in her mothers trunk. If your not aware of this story a mother killed her little girl, a beautiful child and placed her in her car trunk. Probably got rid of the body and spent the next few days or weeks partying. The mother was not bad looking, a good looking MILF. So I am just saying that our killer instincts are still with us, it's just sad when our innocent children become the victims of it.
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History has shown society gradually improves over time. Look at what you could get killed for in the middle ages, anything. If you were 30 years old you were considered an elder.
And for some reason people think society is getting worse
We have something called instant communication and the media. Any crazy event will get national headlines, im sure there use to be a lot more disturbing happenings in the past, who would know ?
I'm proud to say that I don't have a quick temper or lash out like some quick-tempered people. I also do not let my cock rule over my brain (like many men who have succumbed to get their rocks off to many girls they wish they hadn't). I don't have a superiority complex and I'm not judgmental. I'm very open-minded.
These are some of the things that separate me from many men whom I would consider animals.
My killer instinct is in my id. My super-ego tells me that war is never the answer (the last answer if necessary).
I know what you're getting at, but I disagree with a couple of your points. First of all we don't keep our human instincts turned off. Our human instincts are what make us social animals, in other words what draw us to live within a certain proximity to one another for security and support. This only goes so far, however, and the fact that we are undeniably predatorial sometimes rears its head as we lash out against our own species. Many animal species exhibit this sort of behavior, including highly intelligent ones. Monkeys have been known to cannibalize their own, and dolphins have been documented murdering their family members and neighbors for no apparent reason whatsoever. The brain is an extremely complex and fragile piece of engineering.
Second, I would argue that religion does not keep people sane, but in fact burdens and strains our natural sanity for the most part. It is true that religion has formed much of the foundation of western society as we know it and fostered some of the greatest charitable works in history. It has also perpetrated some of history's greatest horrors and some of its most illogical events and circumstances. Religion's teachings have been known to be in direct contrast with even our most basic instincts and in fact sometimes demand that we disbelieve our own senses and accept that which cannot be verified by any known natural means.
The concept of religion is a mostly new occurrence in the development of our species. Through it we seem to be attempting to redefine who we are based on what is by all appearances a merely psychosomatic experience. The implicit significance of that behavior cannot be overstated, nor can the dangers of underestimating the long term impact of abandoning or suppressing that which makes us fundamentally human.
Its been said that, the only thing keeping the human race from falling back into the dark age is electricity. IF we were to lose that, all sense of social entitlement and and humanity as we know it would be lost.
There is very little holding humans to their humanity, just watch humans how they react during times of crysis. Look at New Orleans for example.
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One day old bread ftw.
I used to sound just like you.
Then I became unfull of myself (Around 24) and realized, nope I'm the same as everyone else.
You are probally young so totally understandable.
Just answer me this, if given the choice between another mans life and your own which would you choose to lose?
If you don't say the other man then you are lying..
Now method of killing? Lets just toss 1 weapon in a room and give you a time limit of five minutes.
If you don't come out it's because you lost, not because you didn't pick up the weapon.
Humans are all brutish little yahoo's, no matter how full of it you are. A man is just a man. And unless you are the next evolutionary jump in mindkind you are equally capable of what I am, good or bad.
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One day old bread ftw.
I used to sound just like you.
Then I became unfull of myself (Around 24) and realized, nope I'm the same as everyone else.
You are probally young so totally understandable.
Just answer me this, if given the choice between another mans life and your own which would you choose to lose?
If you don't say the other man then you are lying..
Now method of killing? Lets just toss 1 weapon in a room and give you a time limit of five minutes.
If you don't come out it's because you lost, not because you didn't pick up the weapon.
Humans are all brutish little yahoo's, no matter how full of it you are. A man is just a man. And unless you are the next evolutionary jump in mindkind you are equally capable of what I am, good or bad.
As far as personality go, there is no such thing as "Everyone else". Every person has a different and unique personality that is never exactly the same as everyone else. There are people who would chose to lose their life over someone elses. I personally wouldn't be able to live with the though that someone else died for me. There are plenty of people who risk and sometimes give their lives for the sake of other people.
Saying "Well you're lying because I wouldn't do it" is a bit ignorant.
we show most , if not all the physical traits associated with predators. We are the product of billions of years of predatory evolution.
We even have reasoning as the greatest trait, too bad many confuse this with justification.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Absolutely agree. Just look at the simple facts. You see a dry twig lying on the ground, and what you do.. you step on it to hear the cracking sound, and the feel of it braking under your foot. Why? why are we programmed to like that? Because that's what we did for thousands of years, break bones, it's survival and it's inside us.
One day old bread ftw.
I used to sound just like you.
Then I became unfull of myself (Around 24) and realized, nope I'm the same as everyone else.
You are probally young so totally understandable.
Just answer me this, if given the choice between another mans life and your own which would you choose to lose?
If you don't say the other man then you are lying..
Now method of killing? Lets just toss 1 weapon in a room and give you a time limit of five minutes.
If you don't come out it's because you lost, not because you didn't pick up the weapon.
Humans are all brutish little yahoo's, no matter how full of it you are. A man is just a man. And unless you are the next evolutionary jump in mindkind you are equally capable of what I am, good or bad.
As far as personality go, there is no such thing as "Everyone else". Every person has a different and unique personality that is never exactly the same as everyone else. There are people who would chose to lose their life over someone elses. I personally wouldn't be able to live with the though that someone else died for me. There are plenty of people who risk and sometimes give their lives for the sake of other people.
Saying "Well you're lying because I wouldn't do it" is a bit ignorant.
Personality does not override survival instinct.
Thats the number 1 in we animals. Preservation of our DNA not the species, but our OWN.
To be genetic number 1, thats why life exists to compete and feed off eachother.
Survival is always first, you say that now because you are not locked alone in a room with another willing to kill you to save his skin.
It's easy to say "no I wouldn't", I'd like to believe I wouldn't fight for my life myself.
Truth is though if it's me or another person, I would not fail to try and preserve my dna.
We only are different by the factors we are not forced to "survive" like our animal brothers.
We don't need kill our food with our bare hands, we've removed that slight characteristic.
We needn't worry if that cougar is entering our burrow.
However survival characteristic that pop out during times of crisis.
See>Looting for supplies (Happens all the time , and not just in crisis)
See>Murder for supplies (Happens all the time, and not just in crisis)
See>Leaving people along the trails so you can survive. (It happens more often than you like to think )
We are also capable of being helpful towards eachother in these same times, this is something that society has taught us is right. It's not a instinct so much as a want to bond.
However look at a sinking ship buddy, hell lets use the titanic.
Yeah real humanitarian. Different time, same animal.
Anyone who doesn't believe they are capable of the exact same thing we see in most crisis is a fool.
I'm upstanding myself but whatever it takes to survive I will do. Laws of man do not apply during moments of hell, order is only as strong as the social bond, once that collapses more and more fall victim to animal instincts.
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I for the most part agree with you. It is really a complicated subject, it doesn't really lend itself to any absolutes.
With this particular case she has something really wrong in her head. Death penalty for the win!!!!
This is why when people are love and peace can fix the world I laugh and think naive child doesn't understand the beast that is humanity.
What's wrong with being an animal? Dolphins, some species of apes and whales can show kindness and compassion; why is it any wonder that some of us do? There have been documented cases of wild dolphins, dogs and even wolves saving the lives of people.
Genetically we're not so far off from apes and some dolphins can put the average 6 year old to shame in terms of raw intelligence. It was also recently discovered that some tribal communities of chimpanzees exist that actually make tools to hunt and have a complex social structure... not too far off from our ancestors.
The only thing we have besides superior intelligence over other animals is our supreme and pervasive arrogance.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
One day old bread ftw.
I used to sound just like you.
Then I became unfull of myself (Around 24) and realized, nope I'm the same as everyone else.
You are probally young so totally understandable.
Just answer me this, if given the choice between another mans life and your own which would you choose to lose?
If you don't say the other man then you are lying..
Now method of killing? Lets just toss 1 weapon in a room and give you a time limit of five minutes.
If you don't come out it's because you lost, not because you didn't pick up the weapon.
Humans are all brutish little yahoo's, no matter how full of it you are. A man is just a man. And unless you are the next evolutionary jump in mindkind you are equally capable of what I am, good or bad.
As far as personality go, there is no such thing as "Everyone else". Every person has a different and unique personality that is never exactly the same as everyone else. There are people who would chose to lose their life over someone elses. I personally wouldn't be able to live with the though that someone else died for me. There are plenty of people who risk and sometimes give their lives for the sake of other people.
Saying "Well you're lying because I wouldn't do it" is a bit ignorant.
Personality does not override survival instinct.
Thats the number 1 in we animals. Preservation of our DNA not the species, but our OWN.
To be genetic number 1, thats why life exists to compete and feed off eachother.
Survival is always first, you say that now because you are not locked alone in a room with another willing to kill you to save his skin.
It's easy to say "no I wouldn't", I'd like to believe I wouldn't fight for my life myself.
Truth is though if it's me or another person, I would not fail to try and preserve my dna.
We only are different by the factors we are not forced to "survive" like our animal brothers.
We don't need kill our food with our bare hands, we've removed that slight characteristic.
We needn't worry if that cougar is entering our burrow.
However survival characteristic that pop out during times of crisis.
See>Looting for supplies (Happens all the time , and not just in crisis)
See>Murder for supplies (Happens all the time, and not just in crisis)
See>Leaving people along the trails so you can survive. (It happens more often than you like to think )
We are also capable of being helpful towards eachother in these same times, this is something that society has taught us is right. It's not a instinct so much as a want to bond.
However look at a sinking ship buddy, hell lets use the titanic.
Yeah real humanitarian. Different time, same animal.
Anyone who doesn't believe they are capable of the exact same thing we see in most crisis is a fool.
I'm upstanding myself but whatever it takes to survive I will do. Laws of man do not apply during moments of hell, order is only as strong as the social bond, once that collapses more and more fall victim to animal instincts.
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Survival instinct clearly isn't the top priority for everyone as there have been lots of people who have given their lives for the sake of others and continue to do so. There will always be people willing to sacrifice for others.
yep we are human.. yep we are animal.. yep... we are... killers.
though some of us are more evolved and have more self-control and inhibitions, there are some that can't control that basic instinct.
but at least we can do things like hunt animals and play mmo's to appease the need to kiiiiiilllllllllllll muahahahaha
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and yes, it is a very sad thing when our children become the victims of our instincts.
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I beg to differ. Google Bullshit dolphins. For the most part wild dolphins kill humans in water, the tales of dolphins saving victims has never really been recorded with the victim. They are stories. A dolphins brain is smaller then ours but is not developed in the same way.
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Mothers killing their babies is a piss poor example of either human or animal instincts.
Dolphins mosty kill humans in water?
Er..no.
I beg to differ. Google Bullshit dolphins. For the most part wild dolphins kill humans in water, the tales of dolphins saving victims has never really been recorded with the victim. They are stories. A dolphins brain is smaller then ours but is not developed in the same way.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/11/24/dolphin_newzealand041124.html
Yeah, it's "not unusual" for dolphins to save swimmers according to experts. I guess those experts should listen to the random peeplez on the interwebz.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetacean_intelligence
# Bottlenose Dolphins (Tursiops truncatus) have an absolute brain mass of 1500-1700 grams. This is slightly greater than that of humans (1300-1400 grams) and about four times that of chimpanzees (400 grams).[3]
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That's some great fail you've got there.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
I beg to differ. Google Bullshit dolphins. For the most part wild dolphins kill humans in water, the tales of dolphins saving victims has never really been recorded with the victim. They are stories. A dolphins brain is smaller then ours but is not developed in the same way.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/11/24/dolphin_newzealand041124.html
Yeah, it's "not unusual" for dolphins to save swimmers according to experts. I guess those experts should listen to the random peeplez on the interwebz.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetacean_intelligence
# Bottlenose Dolphins (Tursiops truncatus) have an absolute brain mass of 1500-1700 grams. This is slightly greater than that of humans (1300-1400 grams) and about four times that of chimpanzees (400 grams).[3]
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That's some great fail you've got there.
Your not getting the correct info. The largest ever recorded brain capacity of a bottlenose dolphin was 1710 grams, that was a adult male and not typical of average size for a BND. Let me rephrase my remark on dolphin brain size. Dolphin brain size is smaller then humans in per body scale. Just because it is bigger doesn't mean they are smarter. Human brains have more neurons.
Wiki is also not 100% accurate. Also there was no real recorded evidence that dolphins help people when they are in distress. Dolphins are in fact curious creatures and will often times swim near humans, does this mean they are helping them, no.
I quote your source, "A group of lifeguards swimming off the coast of New Zealand may have been saved from a shark attack recently by several protective dolphins that helped to hold the predator at bay." Please read that for me. Like I said there was no recorded evidence that Dolphins ever saved lives. They are curious and just because they are in the water near you does not mean they are protecting you when other dangerous potential predators are in the water at the same time. Dolphins are known in research video to go after and play with sharks. They will normally attack them no matter who is near and almost always play with them. There is no evidence to say a dolphin hears your thoughts or distress and says ohh shit I better swim over and help these stranded swimmers.
Save the BS dolphin tales for the myth busters.
Edit: To back this up I live in Florida, often times during the year when we snorkle or float we come in contact with dolphins. A few times we got ran into by them on our floats, they seemed very threatening towards us and we got out of the water and went back on the boat. Sometimes but not all the time they can be hostile. Once we had seen them go after a large area of sharks near the shore. Since the waters here can have upwards of 1000's of sharks per square mile of beach during the season. This makes them very active and they love to play chase and run after sharks, no matter who is in the water or not. I never once felt that a dolphin would ever save me if I was in danger.
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Hahah.. that's hilarious: If the dolphins had wanted to show hostility they would have torn you to pieces. Yeah.. them dolphins are vicious KILLERZ,
but not compared to fluffy.
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humans are always animals..just nowadays, we are becoming more and more brutal. our environment is worse and worse..let's pray that when we are alive, the earth hasn't been destroyed thoroughly.
Hahah.. that's hilarious: If the dolphins had wanted to show hostility they would have torn you to pieces. Yeah.. them dolphins are vicious KILLERZ,
but not compared to fluffy.
LOl thats cute, but trust me being in the water with a dolphin with hundreds of razor shredding teeth and being over 400 pounds is not something anyone will take likely when they are being aggressive towards you. You try it, lets see if you sit there and let them toy with you. There are hundreds of reported cases of dolphins attacking humans rather play or not I don't want to have broken bones and scares.
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Umm.. no
Stuff like this happens ALL the time ALL over the WORLD. Most people in developed countries grow up too sheltered and are just realizing what people outside of your perfect life do. Even when you hear about events like this, you just say "Oh..well that sucks, someone should do something" and carry on with your nice life.
it's true that we, humans are on top of the food chain.. but i think we are overdoing it for so many years now. not to mention cannibalism (now, thats a disorder) plus that thing in somewhere in asia, they are eating dogs.. like come on... fluffy right will surely not going to like that.
Eating cows, pigs, chicken, DOGS... same thing...I mean we don't call animals murderers because they kill other animals for food right? We are doing the same thing..killing animals(including dogs) for food. You just think dogs shouldn't be eaten because the idea of dogs being friends and not food has been burned into your brain from childhood. Why should a dog have more rights than a cow or chicken? Why should they be spared being eaten? Cause their "cute"? haha...no
I personally don't eat dogs for food, but thats only because the price/lb of dog meat doesn't come out as good as beef or anything else
c'mon 500 bucks for a 5 lb chichuahua? talk about ripoff...
And that thing about humans being being more brutal than ever before? It's in our nature to be brutal, is it so hard to believe that it was commonplace to kill, beat, skin, and mutilate animals, or even (gasp*) other humans in order to eat? Please...We've been and have been the same animals we have been since we existed. It's just that nowadays people are sheltered from these harsh realities... most people haven't even seen a dead body let alone someone being murdered. People witnessing public murder such as lynchings and beatings were commonplace just a couple decades ago...
Being sheltered isn't necessarily a bad thing, its just that when a sheltered or ignorant person sees the reality, they usually go into shock, or PTSD.
People eating each other, disturbing muders, rape-murder, incest, child-killing.... happens ALL the time...Caylee? Whos Caylee? Get in line please behind the other thousands of dead children who were never mentioned and forgotten. You'll probably forget this "Caylee" in about a week and carry on with your life, and you should because theres nothing we can do...
FULL ACK
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