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Darkfall gameplay, over less importend grafics!
Nomatter how hard you all shouting Darkfall looks bad or can't compare to most big mmo's out there.
I dont agree with that if you have a mid range pc it will look awesome but thats a matter of opinion and taste.
For me always gameplay over grafics.
Darkfall is deep game with many featers great lore, core design open pvp, 100% sandbox thats why i gonne play Darkfall, grafics is the least concern i have about this game.
If you choose games for there grafics first, then you will as most do, whine here on mmorpg.com for next 10 years that all mmo's suck's for there gameplay, as many do here for years:P
Now is your chance to play a game thats focussed on gameplay instead of grafics.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
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Couldn't you have put this in, one of the other many threads. That basically just say the same thing you just did?
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
This is teh interwebz!!!!11 everyone has the right to their own thread!
The only thing the DF devs have shown us so far is the old gen graphics! The rest is all unsubstantiated. If the gameplay features are so great why not show us in the video instead a load of crappy combat animations?
Anyone who says Darkfall's graphics are bad has based their opinions off of youtube. However, even on youtube the level of detail of the environment, characters, and objects is aparent. Compared to most current mmos with bland, generic models for every aspect of the game, every single rock, tree, armor, weapon, and character in Darkfall is unique.
PS: My Bull Shitting skills are not very good so sorry for that.
My opinions are based on the 600 somthing mb video and it really really looks like something from 2003. Don't get me wrong, I don't care much for graphics but really, darkfall's graphics really aren't that hot.
these forums and this whole site in general make my eyes bleed.
give me rank so i can hype stuff plz
Didnt see any poor graphic when i saw the downloaded version of latest video.
Infact Darkfall graphics were alot better then Warhammer ones and way better then for example WoW.
I agree with the OP, gameplay own graphics 24/7.
Have a nice one
Well, it's pretty hard these days to find a game that hasn't got better graphics than WoW.. it was pretty bad when it originally released in 2004 and today it frankly looks pretty ridiculous..
Lol, But you have to admit, the animations were pretty crappy.
Spellcheck - *Plays the "Hallelujah" song*
Anyways, the OP needs it. But besides that, gameplay > graphics. However, if the trailer showed some actual gameplay - for more than 30 seconds, combined - maybe we'd have something to judge it on. Seriously, you can't blame us for judging the graphics when they showed us 16:30 of graphics. In addition, we don't even know if DF can deiver. It's promising alot but so what? The only thing it has going for it now (irony) is it's long development. As you can see, that's a positive more than a negative now.
In conclusion, I'm not sure why I wrote this like an essay.
Again, since you seem to feel the need to post this same incorrect arguement in every thread about Darkfall (read the sticky to see why this is a no no)......
The trailer showed 17min of actual gameplay. Everything you saw was in game footage. Stop trying to make up your own definition just because you are bitter that DF is real and may actually come through for all the fans that are excited about it.
Naval combat showing individually controlled players manning the cannons and boarding the ships...hi thats gameplay...doesnt matter what angle it was shot at. If you want to make the tinfoil hate arguement that it was all faked then do that, but it was gameplay.
Siege engines destroying a player city....yup gameplay.
An archer in a tree that shows UI and a knockback spell in retaliation...yup gameplay.
I could go on...but nothing will convince you. Just did it for the newcommers to the game who may be confused since the video clearly says 100% in game footage...but you seem to believe it wasnt.
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Lol, But you have to admit, the animations were pretty crappy.
Aye, agree that some animations didnt look all that good.
Mounts running looked very good but people walking looked abit stiff.
Old video -
http://df.curse.com/videos/details/456/
Have a nice one
Again, since you seem to feel the need to post this same incorrect arguement in every thread about Darkfall (read the sticky to see why this is a no no)......
The trailer showed 17min of actual gameplay. Everything you saw was in game footage. Stop trying to make up your own definition just because you are bitter that DF is real and may actually come through for all the fans that are excited about it.
Naval combat showing individually controlled players manning the cannons and boarding the ships...hi thats gameplay...doesnt matter what angle it was shot at. If you want to make the tinfoil hate arguement that it was all faked then do that, but it was gameplay.
Siege engines destroying a player city....yup gameplay.
An archer in a tree that shows UI and a knockback spell in retaliation...yup gameplay.
I could go on...but nothing will convince you. Just did it for the newcommers to the game who may be confused since the video clearly says 100% in game footage...but you seem to believe it wasnt.
Blah blah blah. I never said it wasn't in-game footage. If that was CGI, that's downright pathetic. I said I'm waiting for a different point of view, for instance, from the PLAYER's PoV? Is that too much to ask? I'm sorry! This felt like a movie trailer and we all know it.
like i said, i dont really care if i game has low polygon count.
i just cant play an ugly game...e.g..eq2 and vanguard
but meh...maybe people like that art style
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
Again, since you seem to feel the need to post this same incorrect arguement in every thread about Darkfall (read the sticky to see why this is a no no)......
The trailer showed 17min of actual gameplay. Everything you saw was in game footage. Stop trying to make up your own definition just because you are bitter that DF is real and may actually come through for all the fans that are excited about it.
Naval combat showing individually controlled players manning the cannons and boarding the ships...hi thats gameplay...doesnt matter what angle it was shot at. If you want to make the tinfoil hate arguement that it was all faked then do that, but it was gameplay.
Siege engines destroying a player city....yup gameplay.
An archer in a tree that shows UI and a knockback spell in retaliation...yup gameplay.
I could go on...but nothing will convince you. Just did it for the newcommers to the game who may be confused since the video clearly says 100% in game footage...but you seem to believe it wasnt.
Blah blah blah. I never said it wasn't in-game footage. If that was CGI, that's downright pathetic. I said I'm waiting for a different point of view, for instance, from the PLAYER's PoV? Is that too much to ask? I'm sorry! This felt like a movie trailer and we all know it.
asking to see something in player pov is completely different than saying it didnt show any gameplay. stop trying to backtrack because you arent good at it.
The movie was exactly what it was suppose to be...but people who dont really follow the game just decide to assume that it was suppose to show something more. the majority of the fanbase was thrilled with the video, a lot of newcommers were turned on by it...and many previous haters, even hardcore haters of the game, did a complete 180, made apology posts and basically said wow im interested again.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Again, since you seem to feel the need to post this same incorrect arguement in every thread about Darkfall (read the sticky to see why this is a no no)......
The trailer showed 17min of actual gameplay. Everything you saw was in game footage. Stop trying to make up your own definition just because you are bitter that DF is real and may actually come through for all the fans that are excited about it.
Naval combat showing individually controlled players manning the cannons and boarding the ships...hi thats gameplay...doesnt matter what angle it was shot at. If you want to make the tinfoil hate arguement that it was all faked then do that, but it was gameplay.
Siege engines destroying a player city....yup gameplay.
An archer in a tree that shows UI and a knockback spell in retaliation...yup gameplay.
I could go on...but nothing will convince you. Just did it for the newcommers to the game who may be confused since the video clearly says 100% in game footage...but you seem to believe it wasnt.
Blah blah blah. I never said it wasn't in-game footage. If that was CGI, that's downright pathetic. I said I'm waiting for a different point of view, for instance, from the PLAYER's PoV? Is that too much to ask? I'm sorry! This felt like a movie trailer and we all know it.
asking to see something in player pov is completely different than saying it didnt show any gameplay. stop trying to backtrack because you arent good at it.
The movie was exactly what it was suppose to be...but people who dont really follow the game just decide to assume that it was suppose to show something more. the majority of the fanbase was thrilled with the video, a lot of newcommers were turned on by it...and many previous haters, even hardcore haters of the game, did a complete 180, made apology posts and basically said wow im interested again.
That's cool. We all know Darkfall has potential. Would it hurt if some of us actually saw it being fulfilled?
If you guys are happy with the trailer, that's fine. It did what it's supposed to do. Now I'd like to see a little more meat from Aventurine, so don't blame me for that. It'll only help skeptics like myself believe in the game.
Gameplay, for me, means looking at the player's character doing something in game. Playing in the game. Gameplay FOOTAGE is different. That can mean anything that you'd actually see in the game itself. Of course the video had gameplay footage...it didn't have gameplay. I guess I'm picky about that, again, I apologize
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Again, since you seem to feel the need to post this same incorrect arguement in every thread about Darkfall (read the sticky to see why this is a no no)......
The trailer showed 17min of actual gameplay. Everything you saw was in game footage. Stop trying to make up your own definition just because you are bitter that DF is real and may actually come through for all the fans that are excited about it.
Naval combat showing individually controlled players manning the cannons and boarding the ships...hi thats gameplay...doesnt matter what angle it was shot at. If you want to make the tinfoil hate arguement that it was all faked then do that, but it was gameplay.
Siege engines destroying a player city....yup gameplay.
An archer in a tree that shows UI and a knockback spell in retaliation...yup gameplay.
I could go on...but nothing will convince you. Just did it for the newcommers to the game who may be confused since the video clearly says 100% in game footage...but you seem to believe it wasnt.
Blah blah blah. I never said it wasn't in-game footage. If that was CGI, that's downright pathetic. I said I'm waiting for a different point of view, for instance, from the PLAYER's PoV? Is that too much to ask? I'm sorry! This felt like a movie trailer and we all know it.
asking to see something in player pov is completely different than saying it didnt show any gameplay. stop trying to backtrack because you arent good at it.
The movie was exactly what it was suppose to be...but people who dont really follow the game just decide to assume that it was suppose to show something more. the majority of the fanbase was thrilled with the video, a lot of newcommers were turned on by it...and many previous haters, even hardcore haters of the game, did a complete 180, made apology posts and basically said wow im interested again.
That's cool. We all know Darkfall has potential. Would it hurt if some of us actually saw it being fulfilled?
If you guys are happy with the trailer, that's fine. It did what it's supposed to do. Now I'd like to see a little more meat from Aventurine, so don't blame me for that. It'll only help skeptics like myself believe in the game.
Gameplay, for me, means looking at the player's character doing something in game. Playing in the game. Gameplay FOOTAGE is different. That can mean anything that you'd actually see in the game itself. Of course the video had gameplay footage...it didn't have gameplay. I guess I'm picky about that, again, I apologize
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you most likely wont see another movie from Aventurine. I would actually be upset if they did make one because they should be in crunch time mode and perfecting the game and getting beta ready.
What you will see that will prove all the UI and POV things is player made videos from beta when it is legal to do so. With an october beta planned, doesnt look like it will be too much longer.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
I think it's a good think Darkfall's graphics are quite low as I don't have a really good laptop and I'm not the only one. The lower the graphics the more people will be able to run Darkfall!
I'm all for gameplay>graphics, but this overhyping is getting ridiculous. The game will prove itself, these pointless OMG threads just makes it look bad.
Just stop it.
darkfall overhyped....? if you're talking about overhyping it on the "hype-meter" don't bother. people are giving it 1's just because darkfall fans are hyping it. if you're talking about actual hype, well... don't worry, anyone on mmorpg.com has most likely already heard about darkfall and formed their own opinions on it.
i'd say for me and most darkfall fans, it's obvious that gameplay > graphics, otherwise we'd be playing AoC with shiny graphics and naked women. but we're not... because AoC's gameplay was atrocious. don't get me wrong, to some extent graphics can even add to gameplay, but darkfall's graphics aren't so bad that they detract from anything other than pure aesthetics.
in fact, if you notice in the video a lot of the scenes in which the animations seemed clunky may have been that way because the footage was slowed (maybe to make it more dramatic, who knows?). furthermore, spell animations.. sure, they look kinda lame, but i'd much much rather have 100 lame looking fireballs flying across my screen at 60 fps, than 100 beautiful looking fireballs jumping around the screen at 5 fps.
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I agree, the gameplay is increadably important. And even so, if you look at some of the older videos, and the location tests, you can see that some of the graphics look a lot better.
I think that once beta comes out and the NDA is lifted you will start seeing a lot more screenshots and videos at a high resolution. Once that happens I'm sure a few more people will get interested knowing that they can up the graphics.
For me at least, the gameplay is more then enough to amek up for the slight lack of graphics, to me the graphics don't seem that far off from WoWs, the only difference is that WoW has a more cartoony feel to them so it doesn't seem as noticable.
I think that anyone who is looking for a free PvP world, large sieges, a massive world to explore, or even someone that just wants to make a living as a crafter, all of them will find something to like about darkfall.
If you're a person that is all about the graphics, and what looks most impressive and gameplay doesn't mean anything to you, then yes, you probably wont find darkfall entertaining.
I still think everyone should try and give it a shot and decide for themselves.
Its just sad how games today rely on graphics beauty, advertisement investations, and lowest possible age ratings for as biggest sales a s possible. and people fall for it. But the thing is, we all come back from time to time to older games, just because the gameplay was so good. Thats because at that time genres werent fully invented, and every developer would experiment with gameplay. Now they have "good sales" formulas for new games. and that what is really sad.
Nice try.
Nice try.
Agreed. I play old games a lot, cause the gameplay is fantastic in many old games.
OF course it's a plus if the game looks good. But really, it doesnt matter if the gameplay is of High Quality!