Thanks for taking the time to reinforce my points. I appreciate you letting me know that Funcom's official explanation is limited to a couple of lines and the other method of dispersing information is to be buried on thrid party sites.
The sites say "The extra development time will give Funcom time to implement more features in the DirectX 10 version of Age of Conan than originally planned. " and "building a DirectX 10 version worthy of Microsoft's great vision for the future of PC gaming" or others like the text you highlited in yellow.....have no reason for the delay. EE gave a reason as to why the delay and it just doesnt jive with the previous info.
One more time.......Funcom needs to take a page out of the Mythic playbook and just be open and honest about what's done and what's going to be done with the game. They could have simply said what he did in the interview at the outset. The why is as important as the when.
The sites say "The extra development time will give Funcom time to implement more features in the DirectX 10 version of Age of Conan than originally planned. " and "building a DirectX 10 version worthy of Microsoft's great vision for the future of PC gaming" or others like the text you highlited in yellow.....have no reason for the delay. EE gave a reason as to why the delay and it just doesnt jive with the previous info.
They are all one in the same.
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"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
PvP to Erling might not be the main interest to him in game. As gamers we should respect his opinion there and draw the line into thinking and wanting him to say something and the context in what it was actually said in. Remember there is a part 2, so look at the bigger picture. Seperate the PR from the guy who like games too part.
So what is wrong with saying the things he said about launch? Right up front said the same things as a lot of people said here, this is a good approach in recognising this communities concerns and relating to them.
Come on Amazing. I told you guys long before the launch that FC wouldn't be able to pull off PvP. Everyone with a technical background could tell you that. Still you where "troubled" and asked us to wait for a non scripted siege video. That never came btw. And now you are telling us that it wasn't the main intrerest ? But of course it wasn't, I told you so months and months before launch. That didn't stop EE to hype the PvP part to get as many boxes sold as possible. You need to take off your fanbois glasses and stop protecting these crooks before they drag you down with them.
OMG! "PvP isn't that important to me and I never considered it a main feature" ... HAHAHAHAHA Let me go dig up the 100 different pre launch videos were he says otherwise ....
WoW he actually said that? I stopped watching half way through.
That is stunning. Not because I am a PvP fan (although I like PvP) but because its directly against a ton of dev statements
He said that , not in the context being presented. In response to a question in the last interview , he mentioned all major features were in the game they wanted in.
The question (this time around) was in regard to people bringing up the PVP patch, in feedback from that interview. His reasoning(for not including the pvp patch in that analysis) was he "personally" didn't consider the pvp system (XP/fugitive) a major feature. He felt the major features were sieging and city building etc...
His statement had nothing to do with where the developers focused their efforts. Besides sieging is PVP is it not?
Well that is a much better weasel statement than it was presented. But whiely it is not baldly stupid it is completely weaselly.
Its still complete BS. I participated in a number of threads on the AoC forums where more than one dev specifically stated PvP xp and PvP levels were an imporant feature that would balance out the PvP and PvE endgames. Along with PvP items and various other things.
Specifically this was mentioned as part of the reason raiding would not mess with PvP players along with various other topics as well such as how people could PvP right from the start of the game etc.
So in the end it is still directly against numerous dev statements and is obvious damage control with no basis in reality.
The sites say "The extra development time will give Funcom time to implement more features in the DirectX 10 version of Age of Conan than originally planned. " and "building a DirectX 10 version worthy of Microsoft's great vision for the future of PC gaming" or others like the text you highlited in yellow.....have no reason for the delay. EE gave a reason as to why the delay and it just doesnt jive with the previous info.
They are all one in the same.
If you really think that the reason of working on all the problems in the Dx9 version that EE said in the interview is the same as developing more features in the Dx10 version than they had planned.......I just can't help you.
LOL, yes this is a joke, and so was so many things in the last few months, IMO I never thought that I would end up in a MMO Dabacko like this since SWG. But, beware my fello MMO'ers FC-Famine is lerking about in these here forums (what a joke). Must have been pushed out of that slug,flame fest they call an official forums heh. Hey Famine thanks for the reply in the PM, but you just further proved everyone right, that your community relations sucks the fat one! along with your MMO. I would also like to add that your EULA should have an amendment added:
IF we do not deliver on our promises that all participating players shall and will receive 1-6 months of free game play depending on the dis-satisfaction.
Like I replied Famine good luck you'll need it LAWL!
Thanks for taking the time to reinforce my points. I appreciate you letting me know that Funcom's official explanation is limited to a couple of lines and the other method of dispersing information is to be buried on thrid party sites. The sites say "The extra development time will give Funcom time to implement more features in the DirectX 10 version of Age of Conan than originally planned. " and "building a DirectX 10 version worthy of Microsoft's great vision for the future of PC gaming" or others like the text you highlited in yellow.....have no reason for the delay. EE gave a reason as to why the delay and it just doesnt jive with the previous info.
One more time.......Funcom needs to take a page out of the Mythic playbook and just be open and honest about what's done and what's going to be done with the game. They could have simply said what he did in the interview at the outset. The why is as important as the when.
Reinforce your point? HAHA, you did see all those websites shared one thing and that was IT WAS A PRESS RELEASE, so I didn't reinforce your point, but I did reinforce showing that certain people simply spin and twist things into their own favour as you have proven not able to understand what you read, that's the only thing that with this reply above you have reinforced. Sorry !
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by TheSheikh
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Unfinished
Originally posted by TheSheikh
*waits for Avery to defend Erling's bogus PvP comment, you know he will*
FC has to e-mail him the excuse before he can post it.**
** It will be an excerpt from some 3 - 6 month old statement they are recycling
Check out Straddens perspective in the comments for the video for your answer.
I said PvP comment, which (since you didn't notice) means the comment about PvP.
He commented about PvP xp.
Care to explain to me why PvP xp is not important (in general, not because Erliar thinks so)?
If you want my opinion, then your not going to get it by flaming people, name calling and insults. That goes for any post anyone makes from now on.
This game sucks. Any game developer that spouts PvP and DX10, and then doesn't have them implemented at launch, should be fired and the game should fail.
The game is already failing. Just a matter of time before heads roll at Funcom.
Thanks for taking the time to reinforce my points. I appreciate you letting me know that Funcom's official explanation is limited to a couple of lines and the other method of dispersing information is to be buried on thrid party sites. The sites say "The extra development time will give Funcom time to implement more features in the DirectX 10 version of Age of Conan than originally planned. " and "building a DirectX 10 version worthy of Microsoft's great vision for the future of PC gaming" or others like the text you highlited in yellow.....have no reason for the delay. EE gave a reason as to why the delay and it just doesnt jive with the previous info.
One more time.......Funcom needs to take a page out of the Mythic playbook and just be open and honest about what's done and what's going to be done with the game. They could have simply said what he did in the interview at the outset. The why is as important as the when.
Reinforce your point? HAHA, you did see all those websites shared one thing and that was IT WAS A PRESS RELEASE, so I didn't reinforce your point, but I did reinforce showing that certain people simply spin and twist things into their own favour as you have proven not able to understand what you read, that's the only thing that with this reply above you have reinforced. Sorry !
I understand completely. I quoted from the sites you listed so there isn't any interpretation involved. It makes exactly the point I made in my OP that Funcom needs to be more up front and honest with informing its customers as to why a decision is being made instead of a couple lines released just barely before launch that few people saw. Not that it would matter anyway when some releases have no reason, others say that the delay is to make the Dx10 version better, and now EE says they were working out the bugs in Dx9.
If you really need to feel that you are right....ok...you win. Im not wasting more time on the topic. Enjoy the coolaid while you play your shitty game.
May 19, 2008 <---- Wait so people were expected to notice less than 1 full day before release that DX10 wasn't going to be in at launch? If you dumb enough then sure (commenly speaking), but if you can actualy think then afcourse not, as I never copy/pasted it for that reason, I did cause some people say FC never said anything untill NOW with EE latest interview, but I know it's very hard for some people to actualy understand what they read or reply to.Ya sure thing, btw most of those sites didn't have the info posted before 10am - Noon meaning folks likely wouldn't even see it on their lunch breaks lol. While funcom is thrilled with the early success of Age of Conan, and proud of the game launching this week, the company regrets to inform gamers that the DirectX 10 version of the game will not ship with the initial launch........... Age of Conan launches 20th of May in North America / Oceania and 23rd of May in Europe. More information about the game can be found on www.ageofconan.com http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/38767/DX10-Age-of-Conan-Delayed-Til-Fall http://www.n4g.com/pc/News-147073.aspx http://kotaku.com/391601/age-of-conan-dx10-version-delayed http://www.actiontrip.com/rei/comments_news.phtml?id=051908_6 http://www.gameshark.com/pc/news/23959/Age-of-Conan-DX-10-Version-Not-Available-till-Fall-.htm
Exactly.
Oh and Sithrimir you might consider SPORE to be a shitty game, I don't I am enjoying myself with that game.
This is what I don't get. The PvP experience and DX10 were obviously minor features to Erling as he said he personally thought all the major ones got in. If that's the case why are they wanting to make those missing features "as good as possible" before they put it in the game. That would sound like a major feature. It's a good thing that they are taking the time to finish those features correctly but I'm wondering why they didn't pay the same attention to their "major" features which were ALL broken or buggy at launch.
The real kicker is that along with boobies and blood they were the most talked about features in their previews at gaming shows and their pr releases.
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FC has to e-mail him the excuse before he can post it.**
** It will be an excerpt from some 3 - 6 month old statement they are recycling
Check out Straddens perspective in the comments for the video for your answer.
I said PvP comment, which (since you didn't notice) means the comment about PvP.
He commented about PvP xp.
Care to explain to me why PvP xp is not important (in general, not because Erliar thinks so)?
STOP WHINING!
Thanks for taking the time to reinforce my points. I appreciate you letting me know that Funcom's official explanation is limited to a couple of lines and the other method of dispersing information is to be buried on thrid party sites.
The sites say "The extra development time will give Funcom time to implement more features in the DirectX 10 version of Age of Conan than originally planned. " and "building a DirectX 10 version worthy of Microsoft's great vision for the future of PC gaming" or others like the text you highlited in yellow.....have no reason for the delay. EE gave a reason as to why the delay and it just doesnt jive with the previous info.
One more time.......Funcom needs to take a page out of the Mythic playbook and just be open and honest about what's done and what's going to be done with the game. They could have simply said what he did in the interview at the outset. The why is as important as the when.
They are all one in the same.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
PvP to Erling might not be the main interest to him in game. As gamers we should respect his opinion there and draw the line into thinking and wanting him to say something and the context in what it was actually said in. Remember there is a part 2, so look at the bigger picture. Seperate the PR from the guy who like games too part.
So what is wrong with saying the things he said about launch? Right up front said the same things as a lot of people said here, this is a good approach in recognising this communities concerns and relating to them.
Come on Amazing. I told you guys long before the launch that FC wouldn't be able to pull off PvP. Everyone with a technical background could tell you that. Still you where "troubled" and asked us to wait for a non scripted siege video. That never came btw. And now you are telling us that it wasn't the main intrerest ? But of course it wasn't, I told you so months and months before launch. That didn't stop EE to hype the PvP part to get as many boxes sold as possible. You need to take off your fanbois glasses and stop protecting these crooks before they drag you down with them.
Edit: A reference for latecomers: link
hmm..
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
WoW he actually said that? I stopped watching half way through.
That is stunning. Not because I am a PvP fan (although I like PvP) but because its directly against a ton of dev statements
He said that , not in the context being presented. In response to a question in the last interview , he mentioned all major features were in the game they wanted in.
The question (this time around) was in regard to people bringing up the PVP patch, in feedback from that interview. His reasoning(for not including the pvp patch in that analysis) was he "personally" didn't consider the pvp system (XP/fugitive) a major feature. He felt the major features were sieging and city building etc...
His statement had nothing to do with where the developers focused their efforts. Besides sieging is PVP is it not?
Well that is a much better weasel statement than it was presented. But whiely it is not baldly stupid it is completely weaselly.
Its still complete BS. I participated in a number of threads on the AoC forums where more than one dev specifically stated PvP xp and PvP levels were an imporant feature that would balance out the PvP and PvE endgames. Along with PvP items and various other things.
Specifically this was mentioned as part of the reason raiding would not mess with PvP players along with various other topics as well such as how people could PvP right from the start of the game etc.
So in the end it is still directly against numerous dev statements and is obvious damage control with no basis in reality.
They are all one in the same.
If you really think that the reason of working on all the problems in the Dx9 version that EE said in the interview is the same as developing more features in the Dx10 version than they had planned.......I just can't help you.
LOL, yes this is a joke, and so was so many things in the last few months, IMO I never thought that I would end up in a MMO Dabacko like this since SWG. But, beware my fello MMO'ers FC-Famine is lerking about in these here forums (what a joke). Must have been pushed out of that slug,flame fest they call an official forums heh. Hey Famine thanks for the reply in the PM, but you just further proved everyone right, that your community relations sucks the fat one! along with your MMO. I would also like to add that your EULA should have an amendment added:
IF we do not deliver on our promises that all participating players shall and will receive 1-6 months of free game play depending on the dis-satisfaction.
Like I replied Famine good luck you'll need it LAWL!
Reinforce your point? HAHA, you did see all those websites shared one thing and that was IT WAS A PRESS RELEASE, so I didn't reinforce your point, but I did reinforce showing that certain people simply spin and twist things into their own favour as you have proven not able to understand what you read, that's the only thing that with this reply above you have reinforced. Sorry !
FC has to e-mail him the excuse before he can post it.**
** It will be an excerpt from some 3 - 6 month old statement they are recycling
Check out Straddens perspective in the comments for the video for your answer.
I said PvP comment, which (since you didn't notice) means the comment about PvP.
He commented about PvP xp.
Care to explain to me why PvP xp is not important (in general, not because Erliar thinks so)?
If you want my opinion, then your not going to get it by flaming people, name calling and insults. That goes for any post anyone makes from now on.
Sorry its getting a joke around here...
This game sucks. Any game developer that spouts PvP and DX10, and then doesn't have them implemented at launch, should be fired and the game should fail.
The game is already failing. Just a matter of time before heads roll at Funcom.
hmmm
Reinforce your point? HAHA, you did see all those websites shared one thing and that was IT WAS A PRESS RELEASE, so I didn't reinforce your point, but I did reinforce showing that certain people simply spin and twist things into their own favour as you have proven not able to understand what you read, that's the only thing that with this reply above you have reinforced. Sorry !
I understand completely. I quoted from the sites you listed so there isn't any interpretation involved. It makes exactly the point I made in my OP that Funcom needs to be more up front and honest with informing its customers as to why a decision is being made instead of a couple lines released just barely before launch that few people saw. Not that it would matter anyway when some releases have no reason, others say that the delay is to make the Dx10 version better, and now EE says they were working out the bugs in Dx9.
If you really need to feel that you are right....ok...you win. Im not wasting more time on the topic. Enjoy the coolaid while you play your shitty game.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Oh and Sithrimir you might consider SPORE to be a shitty game, I don't I am enjoying myself with that game.
The real kicker is that along with boobies and blood they were the most talked about features in their previews at gaming shows and their pr releases.
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FC has to e-mail him the excuse before he can post it.**
** It will be an excerpt from some 3 - 6 month old statement they are recycling
Check out Straddens perspective in the comments for the video for your answer.
I said PvP comment, which (since you didn't notice) means the comment about PvP.
He commented about PvP xp.
Care to explain to me why PvP xp is not important (in general, not because Erliar thinks so)?
If you want my opinion, then your not going to get it by flaming people, name calling and insults. That goes for any post anyone makes from now on.
Sorry its getting a joke around here...
LOL but you can givesome good fanboy spin for free.
Hmmm looking at what you are replying to I dont see a singal flame, name or insult. Maybe you went to the FC Mod school?
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