Im starting to think that a sizeable proportion of online gamers are actually not interested in being reasonable at all. I am genuinely starting to believe that a great proportion of them are sad, pathetic, pedantic, negative imbeciles without even a modicum of empathy or reason in their bones. Seems that moaning and whinging has become a hobby onto itself. Ill be the first to hold my hands up and say that I whined a fair bit at AOC and Funcom. However, a proportion of that was and is justified. WAR is a game in BETA phase for heaven's sake, and people are whining like a group of hyenas when something goes wrong! Newsflash for small minded ignoramuses: THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO GO WRONG IN BETA! THATS THE POINT! Can some of the sorry souls who are so upset by things going wrong in the BETA phase tell me what they actually expected? Did they want it all to be perfect at this point? If so, then why would this phase still be classified as a BETA phase? Im actually astonished that EA/Mythic/GOA have actually elected to apologise at all given the knuckle-dragging buffoonery that is the general make-up of the vast majority of the 'complaints'. I get the impression that they are so eager to avoid the mistakes made by Funcom on the communications front that they will actually readily apologise for absolutely anything, whether it is justified or not. I hope all of you cretinous neanderthals who are already whining realise that the upshot of what you are doing is that future games companies will not let anyone, who hasn't been carefully vetted for BETA, near their games until they are in the shops. I suppose on the other hand, this does prepare the WAR developers for the inevitable avalanche if idiocy that will come their way on general release if there is like one bug, or HEAVEN FORBID, a server crash or something!
Thats balderdash! First, we are TWO weeks away from launch, there should be no such major problem. Second, we are supposed to test the GAME, not the registration datafiles! In the OB, two weeks before launch such fundamental things are SUPPOSED TO WORK.
What a bunch of crying children. Wow, you miss out on a day or two of OPEN BETA...whip de doo. If you were actually paying a monthly subscription and were losing time paid for, I would possibly give a damn. "ohh, but paying pre-order is time paid!" ..give me a break.
What a bunch of crying children. Wow, you miss out on a day or two of OPEN BETA...whip de doo. If you were actually paying a monthly subscription and were losing time paid for, I would possibly give a damn. "ohh, but paying pre-order is time paid!" ..give me a break.
Hey you shoud get a job at GOA - You'll fit right in lol
In fact that's probably a copy of a memo which is about to go live on the EU site
I don't think anyone in their right mind can say GOA didn't f*ck this up - it is a major cockup on their part. I don't think Mark Jacobs has anything to do with how they operate though, at least not in day to day ops... so give the guy a break - after all it was him that bollocked GOA last night leading to the CEO letter and us getting more information from that joke of a company .
Yep, GOA is a joke of a company, they did screw up royally, that's not really in debate, its the reaction to it that's a joke.
You act like they severed your left nut sack and wont give it back.
You will get into the game, you will play to your hearts content for hours and hours, you had to wait a day longer than everyone else. This is the reality that must be lived with
To all slightly unlettered replies to my original rant.
Its BETA!!!!!
Obviously there are problems, but can you simply not appreciate that it is a GOOD thing for the game that this has happened now, and not in 2 weeks time? Do you not think you are being just slightly premature in kicking off over a technical problem during a BETA phase!?
No one has addressed my standing point. If you think it was all supposed to run perfectly, then why wasn't the game actually *released* officially yesterday? Do you not think that perhaps, just perhaps this is still BETA because they are in the final stages of getting these things right?
By all accounts the game itself seems to be in very good shape so these technical problems happening now is a good thing! If they didn't run a stress test with a huge amount of users, as they are doing at the moment, then perhaps this issue might not have been spotted prior to general release - THATS THE BLOODY POINT!
I don't think anyone in their right mind can say GOA didn't f*ck this up - it is a major cockup on their part. I don't think Mark Jacobs has anything to do with how they operate though, at least not in day to day ops... so give the guy a break - after all it was him that bollocked GOA last night leading to the CEO letter and us getting more information from that joke of a company .
Mark jacobs (Mythic) hasnt anything to do with it? Mythic hired GOA as a subcontracter therefore Mythic is responsible. The fact that they are shifting blame to GOA is a plain PR attempt to distract us from their own responsibility on this issue.
--------------------------------------- Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one and they all stink
This could only come from a US player ... for the 1000000 time , UNDER EUROPEAN LAW EVERY SINGLE GIFT INCLUDED ON THE PACKAGE ITS PART OF THE PRODUCT AND PAID BY THE PRICE ASKED . So yes , everyone who preorerdered a CE or a SE from a premium actually paid for OB access . Just let it rest , we are tired of beating this dead horse .
This is what is called a "legal loophole". The price of a Warhammer Online boxed game is the same price as a Warhammer Online boxed game with the goodies included. Due to local laws, the bonuses are labeled as being included in the purchase price of the game; which coincidentally as was earlier mentioned is the same price as the game without the bonuses.
This is the exact same thing as Canadians being asked a question whenever they win a contest. It is a loophole that allows companies to give away products and still be in compliance with local laws. This is nothing more than a legal loophole. While it appears to European authorities that you did in fact pay for said bonuses to be in compliance, you really did get them for free. A box without said goodies costs the same amount of money.
Please understand that European publisher (GOA) needs to obey European laws even if they are diffirent from USA. Even if it seems like a legal loophole to you, it's actually one of those consumer protection laws most of us Europeans are really happy about. Our laws guarantee that when we buy a service (like access to Warhammer Online servers), what we are promised is what we get, and someone arguing that GOA shouldn't obey laws when providing their service sounds ridiculous.
At least I was promised Open Beta access when I purchased my preorder. According to local laws it's undeniably a service I paid for and thus a service wich has to be provided. However the Open Beta is still in progress, and it was even mentioned that the dates announced are subject to change.
As long as GOA just gets their service working, and I'll be able to gain some kind of access to Open Beta servers, then they have provided me what they sold. But so far I haven't been able to access the servers, I haven't even been able to register their site, until they fix it they have failed to deliver me the service they sold, and I have every right to be angry.
And the fact that a month before launch time, when Mythic already had announced launch date, preorder program, etc. GOA site was unready, news section was bugged, and I couldn't even find launch date from thier site at all doesn't really ease my anger.
Nor does the fact that on Saturday evening, when they announced the time for registration server opening, they forgot to mention what time zone I meant. And as a result I ended up trying to quess what their announcement of service starting time actually meant. GOA can't even make their announcements so that their customers would understand them.
Also you have to remember that GOA failed miserably with DAOC European servers. All I've experienced with them is constant failures, all I've heard from their doing is their failures, and unless I want to play with Americans, at inconvenient times and with higher ping than what I'd get from Europe, I have to play on their servers if I want to play Warhammer Online at all.
Who wouldn't be angry and disappointed at my situation? Now if just GOA would get their servers up, so that I could play, and forget that anger...
EDIT: There's a new announcement on War-EU website, telling that
"We have processed all the information from yesterday, all the new signups from yesterday have been processed and you should have received your validation email"
I just checked my e-mail, and haven't recieved my confirmation e-mail. I think that's a pretty good reason to be angry /EDIT
Of course they are responsible for GOA's actions, what I mean is that Mark Jacobs <edit>can't</edit> barge into their office and sack them all/some of them for this spectacular messup.
Those are two different companies, like Blizzard EU and Blizzard US and they haven't got much in common except for the game they sell.
Ideally, GOA to Mythic would be like WoW EU to WoW US and even though you can see there there that EU is less important and significant to them - their service levels put GOA to shame.
Of course they are responsible for GOA's actions, what I mean is that Mark Jacobs barge into their office and sack them all/some of them for this spectacular messup. Those are two different companies, like Blizzard EU and Blizzard US and they haven't got much in common except for the game they sell. Ideally, GOA to Mythic would be like WoW EU to WoW US and even though you can see there there that EU is less important and significant to them - their service levels put GOA to shame.
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. The highlighted text above is simply not true.
"only those people who took these problems for what they were or who were able to register their disappointment/unhappiness/complaints without resorting to foul language, threats, etc. can hold their heads up high.
Oh what a night…
Mark"
He has the right of it.
Anonymity + Audience = A$$hole
this is true in about 95% of what I read online in forums tbh.
Im a developer myself - on a smaller scale atm.
It's a wonder that any developers bother to engage with their games' 'Community' at all given the sort of bile and vitriol they deal with when the shit hits the fan.
pretty soon all you'll hear about games will be sterile PR statements.
Of course they are responsible for GOA's actions, what I mean is that Mark Jacobs barge into their office and sack them all/some of them for this spectacular messup. Those are two different companies, like Blizzard EU and Blizzard US and they haven't got much in common except for the game they sell. Ideally, GOA to Mythic would be like WoW EU to WoW US and even though you can see there there that EU is less important and significant to them - their service levels put GOA to shame.
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. The highlighted text above is simply not true.
Care to prove me wrong then? Saying "you're wrong" is hardly enough, sorry.
GOA got the rights to distribute and run the game in Europe. Cant really blame Mythic for selling to the highest bidder.
Problem is... GOA is french!!! nothing against french people, but French companies cant seem to do any thing right these days. Its usually a good idea to avoid them when they try their hand at mmo's and gaming. Dark and Light anyone. Vivendi is the only french company i can think of that had some success, but then again they became international multination based.
This could only come from a US player ... for the 1000000 time , UNDER EUROPEAN LAW EVERY SINGLE GIFT INCLUDED ON THE PACKAGE ITS PART OF THE PRODUCT AND PAID BY THE PRICE ASKED . So yes , everyone who preorerdered a CE or a SE from a premium actually paid for OB access . Just let it rest , we are tired of beating this dead horse .
This is what is called a "legal loophole". The price of a Warhammer Online boxed game is the same price as a Warhammer Online boxed game with the goodies included. Due to local laws, the bonuses are labeled as being included in the purchase price of the game; which coincidentally as was earlier mentioned is the same price as the game without the bonuses.
This is the exact same thing as Canadians being asked a question whenever they win a contest. It is a loophole that allows companies to give away products and still be in compliance with local laws. This is nothing more than a legal loophole. While it appears to European authorities that you did in fact pay for said bonuses to be in compliance, you really did get them for free. A box without said goodies costs the same amount of money.
You can call a table a chair all you want , you are wrong . The EU law its pretty self explanatory on this , go google "hoover air tickets" if you want .... and , no , the prices are RATHER different .
Why? It sounds like you missed his entire point. All he is saying is that the vitriol displayed by numerous people for something that isn't even ready to go live yet was uncalled for. Quite frankly, I agree. Yes it sucks that Europeans haven't been able to get into the WAR Open Beta. It isn't the end of the world. You aren't paying for Open Beta. Yes, I realize a large number of people put money down for a pre-order. That isn't paying for Open Beta. That is putting money down to reserve a copy of the game. The Open Beta key, the Head Start key, the free items, those are all bonuses for reserving a copy of the game at release.
If we as gamers continue to go down this path of vomiting up condescending vitriol, we may not have these same kinds of opportunities because developers won't want to put up with it. If anyone ever wonders why developers stop posting on official forums after a couple of months post-release of a game, just look at what kind of things are being said by the players. Next, put yourself in place of the developer. What if those posts were directed at you? How would you feel? I'm not really a huge fan of Mark Jacobs, but the point he makes in that blog post is no less valid as such. Just because you don't like what someone is saying doesn't mean it isn't factual or correct.
And this works both ways.
I'm not condoning any of the personal diatribe I read yesterday, but the basic premise is understandable and valid.
GOA looked like amateurs and we all KNEW it was going to happen.
Great post by Mark and he hits the nail right on the head.
On a side note this is why I play Online games. I enjoy killing, maiming, destroying the hopes of all the scrubs that infest this earth and like to play games. Since I can't kill these a-holes in real life might as well do it in a video game of my chosing.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
As good as it is that Mark Jacobs has even bothered to post it simply doesnt really matter. He can sit there and type as much as he wants about the EU issues, it doesnt change a thing.
NA get to play on time and smoothly and will no doubt recieve great support and feedback and as always us Euro players get shafted, we get a late release, no support and rubbish feedback from GOA who like to tell us "they are doing everything possible to get it fixed".
Its a load of bull, GOA where incapable of doing things properly in DAoC and they are quite obviously exactly the same with Warhammer.
So please no more excuses for these guys, they have let the Euro community down once again and now we have to ask how many more times are they going to let us down.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Totally agree. This guy is the most arrogant person I have seen in charge of a company. Arrogant and rude. And they hire AGAIN the company that have been giving a crappy service along the years. And now he comes here whining about.. insults in a forum I guess? God... what is he THINKING???
You can't condone people getting criminally abusive but you really do have to take it with a pinch of salt and put it into context. Mythic and GOA fanned the flames with their marketing strategy.
I hve a lot of respect for the guy but if this blog was meant to be an exercise in damage limitation - which it should have been it wasnt a good idea to take it off topic and provide more fuel for the flames.
People do need to calm down though. GOA dont come out of this looking good and neither do the people at Mythic that are supposed to be managing them or chose them in the first place.
OB access was used as a specific marketing tool as were the CM roles. You have to question the wisdom of this given what has happened.
It seems to me that whatver this error is that is preventing people creating accounts etc was entirely preventable and common sense would have had the systems tested last weekbut it appears GOA didnt remotely expect there to be a problem and Mythic failed to realise it was a potential PR Disaster waiting to happen.
Well lets see what happens over the coming days Ladies and Gentlemen becasue it seems whatever GOA are upto at the moment isnt working however we know we have a working account registration and verification in the US.
Ultimately most of us want to see the game up and running in EU and get some time in OB to test out a few of the classes before Headstart and launch.
It is perhaps a good thing this has happened to knock GOA and Mythic down a peg or two but it isnt remotely likely that Mythiic could drop GOA at this point even if they wanted to . Surely GOA realise how bad a screw up this was and Mythic /EA can be in no doubt this could affect the bottom line.
It is all coming down to cold hard cash and it is hard to imagine EA will tollerate these sorts of errors in the future.
Marks blog is just a bit unwise. You can't condone people getting criminally abusive but you really do have to take it with a pinch of salt and put it into context. Mythic and GOA fanned the flames with their marketing strategy. I hve a lot of respect for the guy but if this blog was meant to be an exercise in damage limitation - which it should have been it wasnt a good idea to take it off topic and provide more fuel for the flames. People do need to calm down though. GOA dont come out of this looking good and neither do the people at Mythic that are supposed to be managing them or chose them in the first place. OB access was used as a specific marketing tool as were the CM roles. You have to question the wisdom of this given what has happened. It seems to me that whatver this error is that is preventing people creating accounts etc was entirely preventable and common sense would have had the systems tested last weekbut it appears GOA didnt remotely expect there to be a problem and Mythic failed to realise it was a potential PR Disaster waiting to happen.
Well lets see what happend Ladies and Gentlemen Ultimately most of us want to see the game up and running in EU and get some time in OB to test out a few of the classes before Headstart and launch.
It is perhaps a good thing this has happened to knock GOA and Mythic down a peg or two.
Agrred
Worst kind of damage control is to be attack the community .
They are to blme if they didnt see this coming.They should have taken GOA to task before .
How on earth any company even if it was a good one should be able to manage 500K+ people trying to register withing a few hours span time when the beta game was starting in few hours.
No point coming out now and expressing remorese for something which was easily forseen. On various forums people have been crying out foul for GOA and expressing there fears about GOA.
If Mr Mark claims that they actively follow the community forums how come they missed this one .1 week back peopel in various forums starting predicting this nightmare would realise .
Wow if you guys get this worked up over a game (even though I should know after going to a few football games) then I would really hate to see how you will respond when something really bad happens. I used to think Europeans in general were more laid back than this. Have a pint!
Cheers!
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
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Thats balderdash! First, we are TWO weeks away from launch, there should be no such major problem. Second, we are supposed to test the GAME, not the registration datafiles! In the OB, two weeks before launch such fundamental things are SUPPOSED TO WORK.
What a bunch of crying children. Wow, you miss out on a day or two of OPEN BETA...whip de doo. If you were actually paying a monthly subscription and were losing time paid for, I would possibly give a damn. "ohh, but paying pre-order is time paid!" ..give me a break.
Hey you shoud get a job at GOA - You'll fit right in lol
In fact that's probably a copy of a memo which is about to go live on the EU site
I don't think anyone in their right mind can say GOA didn't f*ck this up - it is a major cockup on their part. I don't think Mark Jacobs has anything to do with how they operate though, at least not in day to day ops... so give the guy a break - after all it was him that bollocked GOA last night leading to the CEO letter and us getting more information from that joke of a company
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Yep, GOA is a joke of a company, they did screw up royally, that's not really in debate, its the reaction to it that's a joke.
You act like they severed your left nut sack and wont give it back.
You will get into the game, you will play to your hearts content for hours and hours, you had to wait a day longer than everyone else. This is the reality that must be lived with
To all slightly unlettered replies to my original rant.
Its BETA!!!!!
Obviously there are problems, but can you simply not appreciate that it is a GOOD thing for the game that this has happened now, and not in 2 weeks time? Do you not think you are being just slightly premature in kicking off over a technical problem during a BETA phase!?
No one has addressed my standing point. If you think it was all supposed to run perfectly, then why wasn't the game actually *released* officially yesterday? Do you not think that perhaps, just perhaps this is still BETA because they are in the final stages of getting these things right?
By all accounts the game itself seems to be in very good shape so these technical problems happening now is a good thing! If they didn't run a stress test with a huge amount of users, as they are doing at the moment, then perhaps this issue might not have been spotted prior to general release - THATS THE BLOODY POINT!
Mark jacobs (Mythic) hasnt anything to do with it?
Mythic hired GOA as a subcontracter therefore Mythic is responsible. The fact that they are shifting blame to GOA is a plain PR attempt to distract us from their own responsibility on this issue.
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Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one and they all stink
This is what is called a "legal loophole". The price of a Warhammer Online boxed game is the same price as a Warhammer Online boxed game with the goodies included. Due to local laws, the bonuses are labeled as being included in the purchase price of the game; which coincidentally as was earlier mentioned is the same price as the game without the bonuses.
This is the exact same thing as Canadians being asked a question whenever they win a contest. It is a loophole that allows companies to give away products and still be in compliance with local laws. This is nothing more than a legal loophole. While it appears to European authorities that you did in fact pay for said bonuses to be in compliance, you really did get them for free. A box without said goodies costs the same amount of money.
Please understand that European publisher (GOA) needs to obey European laws even if they are diffirent from USA. Even if it seems like a legal loophole to you, it's actually one of those consumer protection laws most of us Europeans are really happy about. Our laws guarantee that when we buy a service (like access to Warhammer Online servers), what we are promised is what we get, and someone arguing that GOA shouldn't obey laws when providing their service sounds ridiculous.
At least I was promised Open Beta access when I purchased my preorder. According to local laws it's undeniably a service I paid for and thus a service wich has to be provided. However the Open Beta is still in progress, and it was even mentioned that the dates announced are subject to change.
As long as GOA just gets their service working, and I'll be able to gain some kind of access to Open Beta servers, then they have provided me what they sold. But so far I haven't been able to access the servers, I haven't even been able to register their site, until they fix it they have failed to deliver me the service they sold, and I have every right to be angry.
And the fact that a month before launch time, when Mythic already had announced launch date, preorder program, etc. GOA site was unready, news section was bugged, and I couldn't even find launch date from thier site at all doesn't really ease my anger.
Nor does the fact that on Saturday evening, when they announced the time for registration server opening, they forgot to mention what time zone I meant. And as a result I ended up trying to quess what their announcement of service starting time actually meant. GOA can't even make their announcements so that their customers would understand them.
Also you have to remember that GOA failed miserably with DAOC European servers. All I've experienced with them is constant failures, all I've heard from their doing is their failures, and unless I want to play with Americans, at inconvenient times and with higher ping than what I'd get from Europe, I have to play on their servers if I want to play Warhammer Online at all.
Who wouldn't be angry and disappointed at my situation? Now if just GOA would get their servers up, so that I could play, and forget that anger...
EDIT: There's a new announcement on War-EU website, telling that
"We have processed all the information from yesterday, all the new signups from yesterday have been processed and you should have received your validation email"
I just checked my e-mail, and haven't recieved my confirmation e-mail. I think that's a pretty good reason to be angry /EDIT
Of course they are responsible for GOA's actions, what I mean is that Mark Jacobs <edit>can't</edit> barge into their office and sack them all/some of them for this spectacular messup.
Those are two different companies, like Blizzard EU and Blizzard US and they haven't got much in common except for the game they sell.
Ideally, GOA to Mythic would be like WoW EU to WoW US and even though you can see there there that EU is less important and significant to them - their service levels put GOA to shame.
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. The highlighted text above is simply not true.
"only those people who took these problems for what they were or who were able to register their disappointment/unhappiness/complaints without resorting to foul language, threats, etc. can hold their heads up high.
Oh what a night…
Mark"
He has the right of it.
Anonymity + Audience = A$$hole
this is true in about 95% of what I read online in forums tbh.
Im a developer myself - on a smaller scale atm.
It's a wonder that any developers bother to engage with their games' 'Community' at all given the sort of bile and vitriol they deal with when the shit hits the fan.
pretty soon all you'll hear about games will be sterile PR statements.
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. The highlighted text above is simply not true.
Care to prove me wrong then? Saying "you're wrong" is hardly enough, sorry.
GOA got the rights to distribute and run the game in Europe. Cant really blame Mythic for selling to the highest bidder.
Problem is... GOA is french!!! nothing against french people, but French companies cant seem to do any thing right these days. Its usually a good idea to avoid them when they try their hand at mmo's and gaming. Dark and Light anyone. Vivendi is the only french company i can think of that had some success, but then again they became international multination based.
All i can say is, this is not a surprise.
This is what is called a "legal loophole". The price of a Warhammer Online boxed game is the same price as a Warhammer Online boxed game with the goodies included. Due to local laws, the bonuses are labeled as being included in the purchase price of the game; which coincidentally as was earlier mentioned is the same price as the game without the bonuses.
This is the exact same thing as Canadians being asked a question whenever they win a contest. It is a loophole that allows companies to give away products and still be in compliance with local laws. This is nothing more than a legal loophole. While it appears to European authorities that you did in fact pay for said bonuses to be in compliance, you really did get them for free. A box without said goodies costs the same amount of money.
You can call a table a chair all you want , you are wrong . The EU law its pretty self explanatory on this , go google "hoover air tickets" if you want .... and , no , the prices are RATHER different .
Why? It sounds like you missed his entire point. All he is saying is that the vitriol displayed by numerous people for something that isn't even ready to go live yet was uncalled for. Quite frankly, I agree. Yes it sucks that Europeans haven't been able to get into the WAR Open Beta. It isn't the end of the world. You aren't paying for Open Beta. Yes, I realize a large number of people put money down for a pre-order. That isn't paying for Open Beta. That is putting money down to reserve a copy of the game. The Open Beta key, the Head Start key, the free items, those are all bonuses for reserving a copy of the game at release.
If we as gamers continue to go down this path of vomiting up condescending vitriol, we may not have these same kinds of opportunities because developers won't want to put up with it. If anyone ever wonders why developers stop posting on official forums after a couple of months post-release of a game, just look at what kind of things are being said by the players. Next, put yourself in place of the developer. What if those posts were directed at you? How would you feel? I'm not really a huge fan of Mark Jacobs, but the point he makes in that blog post is no less valid as such. Just because you don't like what someone is saying doesn't mean it isn't factual or correct.
And this works both ways.
I'm not condoning any of the personal diatribe I read yesterday, but the basic premise is understandable and valid.
GOA looked like amateurs and we all KNEW it was going to happen.
Don't try to defend the indefensible, sunshine.
Great post by Mark and he hits the nail right on the head.
On a side note this is why I play Online games. I enjoy killing, maiming, destroying the hopes of all the scrubs that infest this earth and like to play games. Since I can't kill these a-holes in real life might as well do it in a video game of my chosing.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Open beta, and Preview weekend are there as a BONUS for pre-ordering.
Cancel your pre-order and see if you get those things trying to buy it on release. O wait its released...
You are doing nothing but having a bonus. That is it and that is all.
As good as it is that Mark Jacobs has even bothered to post it simply doesnt really matter. He can sit there and type as much as he wants about the EU issues, it doesnt change a thing.
NA get to play on time and smoothly and will no doubt recieve great support and feedback and as always us Euro players get shafted, we get a late release, no support and rubbish feedback from GOA who like to tell us "they are doing everything possible to get it fixed".
Its a load of bull, GOA where incapable of doing things properly in DAoC and they are quite obviously exactly the same with Warhammer.
So please no more excuses for these guys, they have let the Euro community down once again and now we have to ask how many more times are they going to let us down.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Open beta, and Preview weekend are there as a BONUS for pre-ordering.
Cancel your pre-order and see if you get those things trying to buy it on release. O wait its released...
You are doing nothing but having a bonus. That is it and that is all.
Your argument is flawed. This product uses OB entry as a selling FEATURE.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Yeah m8, but where is the beta, second day and I cant even make account?!
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"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."
Totally agree. This guy is the most arrogant person I have seen in charge of a company. Arrogant and rude. And they hire AGAIN the company that have been giving a crappy service along the years. And now he comes here whining about.. insults in a forum I guess? God... what is he THINKING???
Marks blog is just a bit unwise.
You can't condone people getting criminally abusive but you really do have to take it with a pinch of salt and put it into context. Mythic and GOA fanned the flames with their marketing strategy.
I hve a lot of respect for the guy but if this blog was meant to be an exercise in damage limitation - which it should have been it wasnt a good idea to take it off topic and provide more fuel for the flames.
People do need to calm down though. GOA dont come out of this looking good and neither do the people at Mythic that are supposed to be managing them or chose them in the first place.
OB access was used as a specific marketing tool as were the CM roles. You have to question the wisdom of this given what has happened.
It seems to me that whatver this error is that is preventing people creating accounts etc was entirely preventable and common sense would have had the systems tested last weekbut it appears GOA didnt remotely expect there to be a problem and Mythic failed to realise it was a potential PR Disaster waiting to happen.
Well lets see what happens over the coming days Ladies and Gentlemen becasue it seems whatever GOA are upto at the moment isnt working however we know we have a working account registration and verification in the US.
Ultimately most of us want to see the game up and running in EU and get some time in OB to test out a few of the classes before Headstart and launch.
It is perhaps a good thing this has happened to knock GOA and Mythic down a peg or two but it isnt remotely likely that Mythiic could drop GOA at this point even if they wanted to . Surely GOA realise how bad a screw up this was and Mythic /EA can be in no doubt this could affect the bottom line.
It is all coming down to cold hard cash and it is hard to imagine EA will tollerate these sorts of errors in the future.
Agrred
Worst kind of damage control is to be attack the community .
They are to blme if they didnt see this coming.They should have taken GOA to task before .
How on earth any company even if it was a good one should be able to manage 500K+ people trying to register withing a few hours span time when the beta game was starting in few hours.
No point coming out now and expressing remorese for something which was easily forseen. On various forums people have been crying out foul for GOA and expressing there fears about GOA.
If Mr Mark claims that they actively follow the community forums how come they missed this one .1 week back peopel in various forums starting predicting this nightmare would realise .
Was the beta in the US smoother then in Europe cause of less Beta accounts that were handed out?
Correct me if Im wrong but I read there are 50K beta users in the US while there are at least more then 100K in Europe.
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Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one and they all stink
Wow if you guys get this worked up over a game (even though I should know after going to a few football games) then I would really hate to see how you will respond when something really bad happens. I used to think Europeans in general were more laid back than this. Have a pint!
Cheers!
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S