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Whats with all the circle strafing ?

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  • PapaLazarouPapaLazarou Member Posts: 502

    Standing still is fucking boring and makes combat really shit.

  • gan3fgan3f Member UncommonPosts: 274
    Originally posted by daelnor


     

    Originally posted by gan3f


    Originally posted by darwa


    Originally posted by gan3f
     
    lots of classes have attacks from behind or the side.. marauder,witchelfs witch hunts, shadow warrior, hell i even think swordmasters do. so maybe you should check your facts before posting your supreme knowledge of something.

     

    EDIT.

    might not be SM maybe it was white lions but still.. you sir are in the wrong and make your self look stupid not these people strafeing to the side and behind.  Well i guess you showed that already by calling ppl witchtards for playing a class they like.. grow up, you act like you are from the wow boards.





     

    WOW! Such anger! lol

    I think you'll find that he's referring to the fact that these people continually circle their opponent.

    I was told that it's a habit from WoW where attacks aren't self-facing.





     

    so i guess i shouldn't continually circle my opponent to hit him from behind for 180 none crit attack. Hey maybe i will just stand there and fight him w/o moving at all, cuz if i circle to the back iam some "wow nub".

    Hell better yet i will just ask him to run away so i can get my attacks from behind, hrmm but there is still a chance it may look like iam strafing him if he turns or something.. Darn i cuz theres no choice but to reroll a class that doesn't have any back/side attacks. MYTHIC you bastards for making such attacks now everyone that plays those classes are wow nubs and have no skills at all.

     

    Ok man, let me break this down. If you are already in combat with someone face to face and you are beating on each other...you will NEVER HIT THEM IN THE BACK BECAUSE WHEN YOU STRAFE THEY AUTO FACE YOU. Now, If you understood that, Mr. I like to insult people's intelligence....follow this.

    Yes, you can hit them in the back to negate their armor and thus hit harder. If you can run up behind them and get the attack off, good for you.

    Here's another news flash. MELEE DPS LIKE MAURADER AND WITCH HUNTER ARE NOT MEANT TO FIGHT TOE TO TOE. You are supplemental damage, I.E. when your buddy is fighting a tank, you run up behind the tank and attack from the rear. That is the design of your class.

    Can you attack someone 1v1 face to face, mano y mano? Yes. Can you win? Yes. Will you get off your positional attacks? NO, not unless you can keep them from auto facing you.

    Another thing...you might want to consider. While you are strafing thinking you will get that back shot off, the other guy if he is smart just spams his attacks and allows himself to auto face you. His attacks are full power and yours are diminished for hitting on the move.

    Go back and read your patch notes. Striking while standing still gives you a bonus over people strafing you.

     

    Not once did i say it would hit or be more powerful from strafing behind, nor did i say i would spam the back attack while strafing behind even tho it doesnt work.  i was stating that i would continue to do so to get that back attack off when it opened up for the chance to do so, i wasnt clear on that point. Either way i would say 75% of the time you are moving/running not stopped in the middle of battle trying to get your dmg bonus. I will continue to circle strafe like most people cuz when you do switch targets for that healer/caster us back attackers will be already in the spot and ready to hit.

  • HaelixHaelix Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by Rabenwolf


    when one group clashes with another group. Ask yourself this, who gets targeted the fastest, the class standing still or the one running around. Its harder to target someone who is always moving around, and if you havent realized,  WAR isnt a 1v1 game. Its harder to lock onto players who are moving around a lot.

    Not taking sides here but, umm, people actually mouse select while in RVR? I figured everyone just kb tabbed through opponents til they got the right one, thats what I do, usually only take a click or two and doesn't interfere with movement. It seems to tab through targets in your cone of fire first then moves to surrounding guys.. works pretty good.

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  • banthisbanthis Member Posts: 1,891
    Originally posted by PapaLazarou


    Standing still is fucking boring and makes combat really shit.



     

    It doesn't make combat shit...just makes the player shit for standing there with a big target on his back saying "hit me"    You can't Program the game to force people to run around.  Of course its completely retarded / easy mode combat if they are allowed to cast powerful spells or abilities while on the run.

    War has a mixture of both on the run instant casts and standing still.  Using an abundance of either one pretty much makes you a shitty player but doesn't 'ruin' the combat system in anyway.

  • gan3fgan3f Member UncommonPosts: 274

    tab doesn't work to well if your ranged/caster might take a few hundred to get the one you want

  • HaelixHaelix Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by gan3f


    tab doesn't work to well if your ranged/caster might take a few hundred to get the one you want



     

    True enough,

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  • JesusCannonJesusCannon Member Posts: 13

    Your soo smart!

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  • HaelixHaelix Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by JesusCannon



    Your soo smart!



     

    If your talking about me...... please don't tell anyone. Would ruin my carefully cultivated tough, slightly dim, modest yet with a healthy dose of ego, sensitive man about town who likes puppies but hates cats image.

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  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,538
    Originally posted by Haelix

    Originally posted by Rabenwolf


    when one group clashes with another group. Ask yourself this, who gets targeted the fastest, the class standing still or the one running around. Its harder to target someone who is always moving around, and if you havent realized,  WAR isnt a 1v1 game. Its harder to lock onto players who are moving around a lot.

    Not taking sides here but, umm, people actually mouse select while in RVR? I figured everyone just kb tabbed through opponents til they got the right one, thats what I do, usually only take a click or two and doesn't interfere with movement. It seems to tab through targets in your cone of fire first then moves to surrounding guys.. works pretty good.

     

    I have to do both, but tabbing only works so well. The longer it takes you to select the right opponent, the more time they have to hurt you or someone else and not take damage or cc..ect. Plus if you have a pet class often you have to select multiple targets, or throw a cc on one and switch to another. Good PvPers need to multitask, and mashing Tab doesnt get you anywhere fast, especially when there are a lot of players on the screen.

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981
    Originally posted by DAS1337



     

    Insult FAIL.

     

    I circle strafe as a WP even though it doesn't help me (supposedly)  I however, have yet to lose a 1v1 fight.. On'y had a good.. 8 or so of those, but 8-0 is still pretty good.  Movement in general can frustrate your opponent, can make them attack differently, perhaps make them panic a little bit.  It might not work on everyone.. but if it works on every fifth guy, that's better than never eh?

     

    There is a lot more than skill and stats involved in this game folks.  Think outside the box.  Just because something doesn't seem logical to you.. doesn't mean it's illogical =)

     

    LOL. WRONG!

     

    When I see someone is circle strafing me. It puts the smile on my face, as i realise i am for a sure WIN, since the opponent clearly does not realise how his/mine class works



  • HaelixHaelix Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by Lobotomist


     
    LOL. WRONG!
     
    When I see someone is circle strafing me. It puts the smile on my face, as i realise i am for a sure WIN, since the opponent clearly does not realise how his/mine class works



     

    Punxor, since yo didna seem to hears me tha first timez, here goes again, cut n' paste beetches!!

    "  Real men strafe, it's all about the mano a mano, see, It's all about who's got the staying power to stick it out to the end, and who don't. Eventually one of us (the other punk, not me son) is gonna get dizzy and fall outa his chair, at that point, pownzers, I strike like a only slightly dizzy yet still deadly a$$ cobra. Take his punk a$$ out before he can climb back into his chair. And anyone who thinks this don't work, try me punxors, I got yo number. Yo a$$ be lucky to not end up in a hospital you try to come at me, them falls be deadly."

      Youz wanna take a ride on the whirly bird bro?!?!?  I'll spin yo head son!

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  • Shard101Shard101 Member UncommonPosts: 479
    Originally posted by Haelix

    Originally posted by Lobotomist


     
    LOL. WRONG!
     
    When I see someone is circle strafing me. It puts the smile on my face, as i realise i am for a sure WIN, since the opponent clearly does not realise how his/mine class works



     

    Punxor, since yo didna seem to hears me tha first timez, here goes again, cut n' paste beetches!!

    "  Real men strafe, it's all about the mano a mano, see, It's all about who's got the staying power to stick it out to the end, and who don't. Eventually one of us (the other punk, not me son) is gonna get dizzy and fall outa his chair, at that point, pownzers, I strike like a only slightly dizzy yet still deadly a$$ cobra. Take his punk a$$ out before he can climb back into his chair. And anyone who thinks this don't work, try me punxors, I got yo number. Yo a$$ be lucky to not end up in a hospital you try to come at me, them falls be deadly."

      Youz wanna take a ride on the whirly bird bro?!?!?  I'll spin yo head son!



     

    is that WoWfagotry talk?

  • HaelixHaelix Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by Shard101

    Originally posted by Haelix

    Originally posted by Lobotomist


     
    LOL. WRONG!
     
    When I see someone is circle strafing me. It puts the smile on my face, as i realise i am for a sure WIN, since the opponent clearly does not realise how his/mine class works



     

    Punxor, since yo didna seem to hears me tha first timez, here goes again, cut n' paste beetches!!

    "  Real men strafe, it's all about the mano a mano, see, It's all about who's got the staying power to stick it out to the end, and who don't. Eventually one of us (the other punk, not me son) is gonna get dizzy and fall outa his chair, at that point, pownzers, I strike like a only slightly dizzy yet still deadly a$$ cobra. Take his punk a$$ out before he can climb back into his chair. And anyone who thinks this don't work, try me punxors, I got yo number. Yo a$$ be lucky to not end up in a hospital you try to come at me, them falls be deadly."

      Youz wanna take a ride on the whirly bird bro?!?!?  I'll spin yo head son!



     

    is that WoWfagotry talk?



     

      Lol, you really are a professional troll aren't you? Man you must be dense if you don't see the intended humor and sarcasm inherit in that post, you simpleton. You come in here all angry due to the fact that people make fun of you in pretty much every post and thread you make on these boards, and jump on what you think is an easy target? Only to find out its a joke post, oh, sad for you.... you really are hopeless aren't you? You want a hug or something?

      Keep trying tho, don't give up, one day you will find someone you'll be able to outwit, maybe at the Hello Kitty Online forums, I hear there's alot of mentally challenged kids that post there, good luck and happy sailing Shardy!

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  • UrrellesUrrelles Member Posts: 574

    Circle strafing only works on one type of player.  Players, like me, who constantly hold the right mouse button to face our apponents in combat.  WoW has conditioned me to do so, and I forget all the time that I can just let it go and auto face.

    Other than that, the WoW interface exploits (that's right they are interface exploits) don't work in this game.  You can't repeatedly run through your opponent, randomly, while you unleash a full combos while preventing them from taking 2 out of 3 attacks.  (Feral Druids).  Circle strafing no longer confuses a player who simply has to stop and autoface you.  You can't have 6 - 20 melee people layered on top of each other in a /assist on some poor sap.

    Over time the people who swear circle strafing is a valid tactic will soon have to change, because people will become wise to the game mechanics and not care how much you move aorund.

  • NicooNicoo Member UncommonPosts: 236
    Originally posted by Haelix

    Originally posted by Shard101

    Originally posted by Haelix

    Originally posted by Lobotomist


     
    LOL. WRONG!
     
    When I see someone is circle strafing me. It puts the smile on my face, as i realise i am for a sure WIN, since the opponent clearly does not realise how his/mine class works



     

    Punxor, since yo didna seem to hears me tha first timez, here goes again, cut n' paste beetches!!

    "  Real men strafe, it's all about the mano a mano, see, It's all about who's got the staying power to stick it out to the end, and who don't. Eventually one of us (the other punk, not me son) is gonna get dizzy and fall outa his chair, at that point, pownzers, I strike like a only slightly dizzy yet still deadly a$$ cobra. Take his punk a$$ out before he can climb back into his chair. And anyone who thinks this don't work, try me punxors, I got yo number. Yo a$$ be lucky to not end up in a hospital you try to come at me, them falls be deadly."

      Youz wanna take a ride on the whirly bird bro?!?!?  I'll spin yo head son!



     

    is that WoWfagotry talk?



     

      Lol, you really are a professional troll aren't you? Man you must be dense if you don't see the intended humor and sarcasm inherit in that post, you simpleton. You come in here all angry due to the fact that people make fun of you in pretty much every post and thread you make on these boards, and jump on what you think is an easy target? Only to find out its a joke post, oh, sad for you.... you really are hopeless aren't you? You want a hug or something?

      Keep trying tho, don't give up, one day you will find someone you'll be able to outwit, maybe at the Hello Kitty Online forums, I hear there's alot of mentally challenged kids that post there, good luck and happy sailing Shardy!





    BUUUUUUUUURN! xD

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  • daelnordaelnor Member UncommonPosts: 1,556

    Wow..some simpletons tonight.

    Anyway, yes, standing still for long periods in RvR=dead. However, if you circle strafe me in melee combat, I will autoface you until you die (yes, this especially counts for white lions. Thank you though, now I know why they all try to strafe.)

    If I start drawing heat for being a "sitting duck" I will move. I might run past you and take a shot..but I'm not gonna run in pointless circles.

    And to the warrior priest guy= wake up man. Winning those fights had nothing to do with your strafing, it had to do with the fact that you can heal yourself and hit people with a gigantic f'in two handed hammer.

    that is what the other poster had to say to you, and yes, it is quite relevant. In fact, it is probably more relevant than your strafing.

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  • fingisfingis Member Posts: 207


    Originally posted by Lobotomist
    Hello people! This is not WOW Didnt you notice that your enemy , if he stands still and attacks - he is automatically turning to face you ?

    WAR's pvp is simplified. Movment advantages have been removed to help the elderly and physically challenged.

    But I was able to kite a witch elf to death with my shaman by DOTing her and HOTing myself while bunny hopping away. That way I could face her and move fast.

  • Kruniac2Kruniac2 Member Posts: 35
    Originally posted by daelnor



    And to the warrior priest guy= wake up man. Winning those fights had nothing to do with your strafing, it had to do with the fact that you can heal yourself and hit people with a gigantic f'in two handed hammer.
     

     

    That just about sums up -that- imbalanced class. After Mythic nerfs them into oblivion, hopefully they will fix BW roots not breaking upon damage AT ALL.

     

    Fucking BW roots anyone, the entire group can just FF on him ftw. No skill. None.

  • ShojuShoju Member UncommonPosts: 776

    Walking backwards fixes circle strafers.

  • gan3fgan3f Member UncommonPosts: 274
    Originally posted by fingis


     

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Hello people! This is not WOW Didnt you notice that your enemy , if he stands still and attacks - he is automatically turning to face you ?

     

    WAR's pvp is simplified. Movment advantages have been removed to help the elderly and physically challenged.

    But I was able to kite a witch elf to death with my shaman by DOTing her and HOTing myself while bunny hopping away. That way I could face her and move fast.

     

    by witch elf i hope you mean witch hunter, cuz damnit fingis your killing the wrong side!

  • einexileeinexile Member UncommonPosts: 197

    It's true that pvp in WoW involves a lot of what some people call circle strafing - though really what you do in that game is cross your opponent and pivot to face them.

    This is only true for some classes, though. The reason people do it so much is that it can increase your situational awareness by swinging the camera at times it would be less convenient to manually orbit the viewpoint. Games also look better when everyone is on the move, and relying on the computer to target for you is generally a bad habit to get into if you enjoy pvp and see yourself playing many pvp games in the future.

    Lately I've been playing a cleric in the original EverQuest, and I find myself doing the cross & pivot thing even in that game, and yes even as a healing class. It gets me out of people's way and helps me watch for adds, not least because I can't get used to EQ's camera controls. It's funny how people can tell what WoW class you play by how you behave in other games.

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  • MacamusMacamus Member Posts: 134

    There actually is a point for a non positional class to circle one that requires you to....  if he has strong attacks that he needs to do in your back or rear, well MOVE so he CANT do it? 

  • YunbeiYunbei Member Posts: 898
    Originally posted by Lobotomist


    Hello people! This is not WOW
    Didnt you notice that your enemy , if he stands still and attacks - he is automatically turning to face you ?
    Just thought to inform you ...
     
    Now if you are Witchtard (you know the rogue classes) with positional attack, than i can see why are you running around. Or Shadow Warrior.
    But else you are killing your self with stupidity
     



     

    Lol yeah I noticed some didnt notice. I had my Runepriest - which surprisingly I enjoyed - standing still while some Orc tank lolcoptered around me. I didnt care but laugh about his stupidity, and I just kept doing my stuff, calm and rooted in the earth, as a Dwarf should be, tehe.

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  • OverpowerOverpower Member Posts: 105

    Running around your opponent also is part of the mind game. It tends to piss some ppl off thus this topic was created.

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  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981
    Originally posted by fingis


     

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Hello people! This is not WOW Didnt you notice that your enemy , if he stands still and attacks - he is automatically turning to face you ?

     

    WAR's pvp is simplified. Movment advantages have been removed to help the elderly and physically challenged.

    But I was able to kite a witch elf to death with my shaman by DOTing her and HOTing myself while bunny hopping away. That way I could face her and move fast.

     

    Good idea!

    Show your back to witch elf....

    Actually how come you were fighting Witch elf with Shaman ?

    Duel ?

    See you on battlefield matey



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