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Dont say anything about WAR until you played it.
snoop101
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People on here talking about WAR this, WAR that, WOW this, WOW that. Coming from playing WOW and other MMO's I can say yes it has a feel of WOW, but why fix something if it isnt broken (lol AOC). To me WAR is a breath of fresh air.
I love the fact that from the start you feel like your actually in a war and not just killing 5 kabolds that just stand there while a rabbit bounces by (zzzzzz). I also like the fact that you dont have to spend day after day grinding to the highest level to feel like your actually being part of something. Some people may like this and dont get me wrong I love the way you build up to be something, just not months of being a nothing, then the game actually starts.
everyones going to have different views and really you have to play WAR to understand that its a down to earth enjoyable game that you can enjoy by yourself or with a warparty of 20 people you just met.
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I played WAR, I didn't care for it. I didn't think it was a "breath of fresh air", but a "breath of the same air I've been breathing for 3 years". I found it to be the same boring format with a few sprinkles of new ideas. I really don't think it deserves the hype or rave reviews it has been getting. But hey, thats just my opinion(waits for a fanboy to come in and tell me I'm the only one with that opinion).
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
To me theres so many things I like about it, but I could ramble on more then before. The biggest thing for me is I feel like im actually contributing to something even at level 5. One of my biggest issues with WOW was the fact that if you arent 70 your a nothing and its just to easy of a game and blizz keeps on making it easier because there loosing people.
Anyways i've played many MMO's and put in a lot of time. I enjoy playing MMO's and would say that once the WAR community builds up after launch it will even get better. Im looking forward to the days ahead.
I'm not going to play it for one reason, the complete and utter lack of crafting as a key feature.
Sure there's crafting and it looks like it'll be decent compared to most games. But it's still a system pushed by one designer instead of a good number of the team. They're literally grandfathering clause of stupity-ing out one feature that can literally add layers of complexity all by itself.
Granted that's pretty much the only opinion that I'll ever hold for the game unless I get on my buddies account for a weekend, which he's estatically waiting for(though he doesn't have the internet at the moment for various reasons).
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When I first started playing warhammer I was "kinda" into it. I kept playing some more and finally got my friend that left WoW a while ago to give it a go. Since I've got him to play with and we leveled to 10 I can say this game gets better the more you play and higher you get. Don't get me wrong it's a good game from 1-5, you get to do public quest and depending on how much you put into the quest you get some nice rewards. It's also nice to level pvping instead of questing if you get bored of pve stuff. I'm really enjoying it now as a healer helping my white lion friend wreak fools
. Anyways, I think you need to give it a chance,level to atleast 8 where you get a morale skill to use in rvr/pve and enjoy the fact you don't have to pvp grind 24/7 or quest for hours to have a good time.
I liked WAR when I was in CB, even though I was trown in RANK 31 I saw allot of things I liked about the game, not so in a MMORPG sense, but more as a entertaining fun type of game.
Since OB I must admit that if I was trown in at lvl 0 I might not have liked it as it is allot slower then what I noticed in CB being higher ranked made a hugh difference for me.
But overall I probebly will get the game, but I am not sure if it's going to be long term, but in all cases I play a game or mmorpg to have fun, and I had fun with WAR.
Some people we WAR as a WoW clones and some people see them as very different. It depends on how you see each game.
People that are into Jazz can see two jazz songs as being very different, but someone who doesn't like jazz will think they sound the same. Same thing could be said about Reggae and many other kinds of music, even classical.
Some people just look at three things; graphics, skills system and combat on a one on one scale. For those people WAR will be a WoW clone.
But I see things like travels times, time spent questing, time spent solo, time spent looking for a group, time in combat, teams tactics, team risk, team rewards.
For me WoW = time waisted, WAR = time well spent.
I'm not even looking at combat, or graphics or skill system. Those just aren't the key issues for me.
I see two totally different games.
What I find funny is all the people who have been on this site hating WOW saying how its too easy and dumbed down are all suddenly loving WAR and defending it. Even though WAR is even easier than WOW and even more dumbed down and even the RVR is dumbed down from DAOC. So it's like the only reason you hate WOW is because you don't want to like anything that is popular because you want to be "hardcore" and different like some emo kid.
It's like all the people that suddenly jumped to SWG's defense after the CU and NGE even though they were the esact same people who were moaning during the pre cu age saying how shit it was. I played SWG emu and just seeing how the basic mechanics works brings back all the memories of why that game pissed me off so much. Now you have all the hardcore fanbois on the emu forums and when you mention content from the CU and NGE they flame you until you get banned. It's like the CU and NGE done some good things that you cant ignore like quest based progression aswel as grinding and things like fixing buffs and armour making it more diverse. Before the CU everyone was just wearing the same armour and using the same weapons and it was soooooooo boring.
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Yeah I agree with the point that at lvl 5, you can join a rvr battle and not be worthless, even if all the enemies are lvl 20+, you can still be needed and make a difference, it's just a fun game in my opinion, and the war aspect is really nice, I personally hope this game lasts for a long time, and has many expansions built for it, I've made 3 characters, 2 to lvl 8 and I've had fun the whole time, I purposely didn't push myself to get to the last tier, or explore everywhere to save that for later, and I didn't realise how big the map was, each race has a tier-group map, and there are 6 races, so the world is 6x bigger than one race's tier-group and that's pretty big.
I would recommend all UO, WoW, EQ, whatever players to play this game and at least see it and play it for yourself and make up your own mind. The further I got into the game the more I noticed, the features go beyond a simple quest set-up, and beyond a simple pvp set-up, there are actually complex pvp set-ups in this game, and the world is deep enough in lore to draw you in, after a while you will think like your chosen race, and have reason to kill your enemy. The quest system is broken up into many different systems, there's no words for them, but I'll just say there are open-quests, where you don't have to recruit or join someones party, you walk on the map where the quest is and everyone on that map can automatically take part in that quest if they wish it's fully open, there are ABC npc quests, there are instanced RvR quests, there are non-instanced RvR quests, and since I only made it to lvl 8, I probably didn't see the best part, which is what I'm gonna wait to see for myself in it's prime when the servers go live.
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--- Razimus
WAR basically fails at first impressions. People who have not played DAOC, or any heavy PvP game would be turned off by WAR quickly by its simple graphics, poor animation, and slow combat. The same goes for DAOC. If it was not for the fact that so many people informed me about DAOC combat, I would never have played the game past level 10ish.
the same goes for WAR. I probably would not have made it past level 5 if I didn't konw what I was getting into. However any player with the patience to get around level 8 will throughly overwhelmed with enjoyment when they partake in the PvP battles with an actually skill set that matters.
BTW crafting in WAR does matter, but only under one proffessions. Talisman making.
You're kind of destroying your own argument here. If WoW isn't broken and WAR copies the exact same concept with very similar classes, UI and gameplay............why even bother going to WAR?
With single player games you could argue the 'new content' premise, but WoW is about to ship a new expansion, so that's not a good argument.
I accept no saying anything about WAR before playing it.
But.. you should have explored the swamps in EQ classic trying not to get killed by the kobolds at night. Not seeing a thing, without a minimap, without even a map, with sense heading failing often, listening to the sounds of the kobolds to know where they might be, and facing a very hard corpse run trying to find your body.. in the same situation you were in but naked. Epic.
I played WAR, I didn't care for it. I didn't think it was a "breath of fresh air", but a "breath of the same air I've been breathing for 3 years". I found it to be the same boring format with a few sprinkles of new ideas. I really don't think it deserves the hype or rave reviews it has been getting. But hey, thats just my opinion(waits for a fanboy to come in and tell me I'm the only one with that opinion).
What he said.. except i dont have a cool analogy to go with it.,
Cancelled my preorder for this game yesterday, MMOs are disspaointing, i doubt i will pay for another for a while.
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Your logic is pretty flawed. People have to make decisions about what games to play BEFORE they actually play them. Unfortunately, not all games have demos, and I'm not going to pay $40-50 to demo a game.
So I probably will not play WAR because from the information available to me it looks like a rehash of WoW, with dated graphics and just a few extra features that might be interesting for about 10 minutes.
If I'm going to put aside a game I've spent the past year or two playing to start a new one, I need more than just a few sparkles to get my interest.
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Played it, it's boring, wil be waiting for WoTLK. I was in War beta since the beginning and didn't like it.
It's definitely not for everyone and more PvP orientated than some other games. If you don't get it you won't like it.
I loved jumping in and PvPing from level one and never look back. Been waiting for a game with collision detection and PvP leveling and all around more massive MMO combat. It fills the void that many felt was in the genre.
Of course not everyone liked it, but then again I had so many friends who hated WoW when it launched as well.
It definitely has things to work out like combat animation and things to get used to like the GCD which makes it seem like combat is more sluggish for button mashers.
All in all, I like what it brings to the table and its potential. I love large battles and world PvP.
Keep taking and sieging was definitely fun, and the fact that there is a actual RvR endgame with progression and lots of scenarios to play.
What's fun is actually PvPing with guilds and friends again. In some other games this was pointless as everything was instanced and soloable. In this game large scale teamwork and cooperation can help a lot.
It's a breath of fresh air for a market which does not have a recent large scale PvP oriented offering.
One things for sure, it's load of fun for me.
Ive played it for just two beta days. Its boring.
Hope Im wrong maybe I didnt reached an interesting content/level, but all ive seen in game smelled like WoW with a lot of boring pvp.
sorry fanboys.
To be fair, it would have to work both ways. You can't say anything GOOD about WAR either, unless you played it.
I want to try it. I think I will like it. Most of the things that seem to irk the negative posters either don't bother me, or actually seem like positives instead of negatives.
For example, I'm not playing WAR because the crafting sucks! Ok, whatever, i never craft in games, so it's not an issue for me.
Or, combat sucks in WAR because it's not twitch based! This is lame. Ok, whatever that's a positive in my opinion. If I want twitch based combat I'll play COD4.
It is a decent game. Unfortunately I am one of the people stiff suffer from gameplay issues. The game still has horrible lag and I constantly have CTDs. Not sure what is going ona s LOtRo,EQ2,WoW,CoH and GW all work fine.
Your argument is very flawed OP.
You can only try WAR if you pay for it. There isn't a beta available.
So everyone has the right to give their opinion about it because that's the only thing we can do with WAR unless we pay for the game, and that's not something a lot of people are willing to do.
No demo, no respect, sorry. NEXT!
That's what I said. I take it you mean that there isn't a demo....there is actually an open beta, but you have to preorder the game to get into it.
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That's what I said. I take it you mean that there isn't a demo....there is actually an open beta, but you have to preorder the game to get into it.
Yup I meant demo.
So do you offer a refund to everyone who tries it and doesn't like it?
Ummm, how can it be a breath of fresh air if it just copies WoW? Your statements are, like, contradictory and stuff.
I see all the "I played for a few hours and think it feels like WoW" as a good thing. It means WAR has successfully filtered out the whiners.
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