ENTROPIA UNIVERSE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA)
2007-12-11
This Agreement ("Agreement") is made by and between MindArk PE AB (publ) ("MindArk"), a Swedish corporation having it's principle place of business at Jarntorget 8, SE-41304 Gothenburg, Sweden, and the Participant ("Participant" and/or "You") who wishes to use the Entropia Universe.
By accepting this Agreement, the Participant agrees to it in its entirety, effective immediately.
MindArk owns the software and the system, identified as the Entropia Universe ("System").
In consideration of the promises set forth herein, the parties hereto agree as follows:
1. Arrangement
This Agreement is a legal document that details your rights and obligations as an Entropia Universe Participant, entitled to a Participant account, and access to use certain MindArk services. You cannot become an Entropia Universe Participant until you have accepted the terms of this Agreement. You hereby acknowledge that your use of the Entropia Universe constitutes your acceptance of this Agreement.
MindArk agrees to provide the Entropia Universe "as is" to the Participant. All use of the Entropia Universe is only allowed according to the terms and conditions set forth herein. All use not in accordance with this Agreement is specifically forbidden.
This Agreement is your entire agreement with MindArk and governs your use of the System. By accepting this Agreement you also agree to any additional terms and conditions that may arise from usage of affiliate systems, other MindArk systems or products, or third-party software and/or systems.
To qualify as a Participant, you must be at least 18 years old. If you are not 18 years old but you are at least 13 years old, you may still partake, but only if your account was created and registered by your parent or guardian. Any rights you might have according to this Agreement will be void and without effect, and you will not be entitled access to the Entropia Universe, if you do not satisfy the age requirement.
2. Description
MindArk provides the Entropia Universe as a service, described as a virtual universe. The Entropia Universe is not a "game".
Eu is not an mmorpg nither is sl so why are they on mmorpg .com?
I'm guessing it's because the game is of interest to people who play MMORPGs
Thanks for the reply.
The most obvious answer is always in front of you they say.
Its just i dont think entropia should be on a site with games, having played it i know what its really about and to me seeing eu on mmorpg is like seeing ebay or 888.com here.Entropia is a gambling client for people with high or expendable income,im not saying its not fun and i have met some great people there,its just eu has a very very dark side using repetitive clicks, actions and gambling to keep their customers hooked, and once you have been playing for so long you feel you can't leave because you have invested alot of non returnable money into it.
the game has been around long enough for mmorpg.com to know whats its like and a quick trip to entropia form would show you that hype is nurfed by community projects yet its still here.
once you have been playing for so long you feel you can't leave because you have invested alot of non returnable money into it. the game has been around long enough for mmorpg.com to know whats its like and a quick trip to entropia form would show you that hype is nurfed by community projects yet its still here.
I've snipped a bit off the front because this is the one part I want to question. You use the terms "invested" and "non-returnable" money, and yet you say you have played the game. If you have played you will know that you can sell everything in the game, weapons, armour, clothes any loooted stuff and withdraw that money from the game into your real world bank account.
Now i'm not saying that all money you deposit into the game will be recovered if you do decide to quit and withdraw but to say that all money "invested" is non-returnable is patently not correct.
Also, for the many people who are running successful businesses in-game I would suggest they are gambling only as much as people who run businesses in the high street. If anything with the set rate of business tax (shop rent and tax) not being buggered about with by the government (Mindark) but set at 1 constant rate it's steadier than running a "real" world business.
I would say its a cross between an mmorpg and an online casino. Not for me, but great for those who like to fork over money with the possibility of hitting a jackpot.
Eu is not an mmorpg nither is sl so why are they on mmorpg .com?
I'm guessing it's because the game is of interest to people who play MMORPGs
Thanks for the reply.
The most obvious answer is always in front of you they say.
Its just i dont think entropia should be on a site with games, having played it i know what its really about and to me seeing eu on mmorpg is like seeing ebay or 888.com here.Entropia is a gambling client for people with high or expendable income,im not saying its not fun and i have met some great people there,its just eu has a very very dark side using repetitive clicks, actions and gambling to keep their customers hooked, and once you have been playing for so long you feel you can't leave because you have invested alot of non returnable money into it.
the game has been around long enough for mmorpg.com to know whats its like and a quick trip to entropia form would show you that hype is nurfed by community projects yet its still here.
How is the highlighted any different from other mmorpgs? One of the problems EU players face is their own description of the money they pay. I have never considered the money I pay to play one of these games to be an investment. Neither should you.
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Eu is not an mmorpg nither is sl so why are they on mmorpg .com?
LOL at you AmosTrask for starting a thread about a game you know nothing about.
If you know what MMORPG stands for and have played EU then why are you posting pointless threads here or do just need to get your posts up so people will listen to you?
What does a game have to be to be classed as an MMORPG ?
EU is an MMORPG this coming from some one who has played this game enough to know.
You say it is not a game. Well, yes AND no. A game is defined as an activity providing entertainment or amusement; a pastime. In that respect, I would say it is certainly a game.
I believe that what Mindark means by it not being a "game" is that it is not merely a game. There is more to it than that. They emphasize it as a virtual world, and that it is, because of the real cash economy, and also because you are be able to purchase items in game that you can also have sent to you in real life. When the Chinese platform is up and running, assuming it is a success, you will see a great deal more of this "more than a game" aspect.
It is nice for me to be able to take time off from it as I do from time to time, and to know that I can just come back whenever I feel like it and everything is still there for me, and I don't have to put anything into it if I don't want to. I am by no means a high end player, just very casual, and putting about 10 bucks in a month suits me just fine.
And I can vouch for the ability to get your money back. It took about 6 weeks, but I was able to withdraw 380 dollars that I had accumulated.
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Why are you on MMORPG.com?
it even say s it in the user agreement
ENTROPIA UNIVERSE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA)
2007-12-11
This Agreement ("Agreement") is made by and between MindArk PE AB (publ) ("MindArk"), a Swedish corporation having it's principle place of business at Jarntorget 8, SE-41304 Gothenburg, Sweden, and the Participant ("Participant" and/or "You") who wishes to use the Entropia Universe.
By accepting this Agreement, the Participant agrees to it in its entirety, effective immediately.
MindArk owns the software and the system, identified as the Entropia Universe ("System").
In consideration of the promises set forth herein, the parties hereto agree as follows:
1. Arrangement
This Agreement is a legal document that details your rights and obligations as an Entropia Universe Participant, entitled to a Participant account, and access to use certain MindArk services. You cannot become an Entropia Universe Participant until you have accepted the terms of this Agreement. You hereby acknowledge that your use of the Entropia Universe constitutes your acceptance of this Agreement.
MindArk agrees to provide the Entropia Universe "as is" to the Participant. All use of the Entropia Universe is only allowed according to the terms and conditions set forth herein. All use not in accordance with this Agreement is specifically forbidden.
This Agreement is your entire agreement with MindArk and governs your use of the System. By accepting this Agreement you also agree to any additional terms and conditions that may arise from usage of affiliate systems, other MindArk systems or products, or third-party software and/or systems.
To qualify as a Participant, you must be at least 18 years old. If you are not 18 years old but you are at least 13 years old, you may still partake, but only if your account was created and registered by your parent or guardian. Any rights you might have according to this Agreement will be void and without effect, and you will not be entitled access to the Entropia Universe, if you do not satisfy the age requirement.
2. Description
MindArk provides the Entropia Universe as a service, described as a virtual universe. The Entropia Universe is not a "game".
because i play mmorpgs?
I'm guessing it's because the game is of interest to people who play MMORPGs
Thanks for the reply.
The most obvious answer is always in front of you they say.
Its just i dont think entropia should be on a site with games, having played it i know what its really about and to me seeing eu on mmorpg is like seeing ebay or 888.com here.Entropia is a gambling client for people with high or expendable income,im not saying its not fun and i have met some great people there,its just eu has a very very dark side using repetitive clicks, actions and gambling to keep their customers hooked, and once you have been playing for so long you feel you can't leave because you have invested alot of non returnable money into it.
the game has been around long enough for mmorpg.com to know whats its like and a quick trip to entropia form would show you that hype is nurfed by community projects yet its still here.
I've snipped a bit off the front because this is the one part I want to question. You use the terms "invested" and "non-returnable" money, and yet you say you have played the game. If you have played you will know that you can sell everything in the game, weapons, armour, clothes any loooted stuff and withdraw that money from the game into your real world bank account.
Now i'm not saying that all money you deposit into the game will be recovered if you do decide to quit and withdraw but to say that all money "invested" is non-returnable is patently not correct.
Also, for the many people who are running successful businesses in-game I would suggest they are gambling only as much as people who run businesses in the high street. If anything with the set rate of business tax (shop rent and tax) not being buggered about with by the government (Mindark) but set at 1 constant rate it's steadier than running a "real" world business.
I would say its a cross between an mmorpg and an online casino. Not for me, but great for those who like to fork over money with the possibility of hitting a jackpot.
More of a casino where the house always wins no matter what. It is true this isn't a game just a casino dressed alien forms.
I'm guessing it's because the game is of interest to people who play MMORPGs
Thanks for the reply.
The most obvious answer is always in front of you they say.
Its just i dont think entropia should be on a site with games, having played it i know what its really about and to me seeing eu on mmorpg is like seeing ebay or 888.com here.Entropia is a gambling client for people with high or expendable income,im not saying its not fun and i have met some great people there,its just eu has a very very dark side using repetitive clicks, actions and gambling to keep their customers hooked, and once you have been playing for so long you feel you can't leave because you have invested alot of non returnable money into it.
the game has been around long enough for mmorpg.com to know whats its like and a quick trip to entropia form would show you that hype is nurfed by community projects yet its still here.
How is the highlighted any different from other mmorpgs? One of the problems EU players face is their own description of the money they pay. I have never considered the money I pay to play one of these games to be an investment. Neither should you.
LOL at you AmosTrask for starting a thread about a game you know nothing about.
If you know what MMORPG stands for and have played EU then why are you posting pointless threads here or do just need to get your posts up so people will listen to you?
What does a game have to be to be classed as an MMORPG ?
EU is an MMORPG this coming from some one who has played this game enough to know.
You say it is not a game. Well, yes AND no. A game is defined as an activity providing entertainment or amusement; a pastime. In that respect, I would say it is certainly a game.
I believe that what Mindark means by it not being a "game" is that it is not merely a game. There is more to it than that. They emphasize it as a virtual world, and that it is, because of the real cash economy, and also because you are be able to purchase items in game that you can also have sent to you in real life. When the Chinese platform is up and running, assuming it is a success, you will see a great deal more of this "more than a game" aspect.
It is nice for me to be able to take time off from it as I do from time to time, and to know that I can just come back whenever I feel like it and everything is still there for me, and I don't have to put anything into it if I don't want to. I am by no means a high end player, just very casual, and putting about 10 bucks in a month suits me just fine.
And I can vouch for the ability to get your money back. It took about 6 weeks, but I was able to withdraw 380 dollars that I had accumulated.
No, its not a MMORPG, its a life-sucking, money-filching, hobo-making, addict-causing, scam-attracting mess.
Sick of playing Entropia Universe? Want to quit, but don't want your hard earned money to vanish? Give your items to ME :-)