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Destro outnumbers Order about 4:1
Yunbei
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At least thats what I experienced in Open RVR on the 3 German Servers I was playing on and trying out. Even at lucky hours it was always 2:1. These ratios were about 80-90% of all RVR battles. Fact.
The funny thing is, we Order players even held ground against 2:1, even when most Destro players were around level 10 and most of ours levels 6-8 typically. As expected Destro is for the masses who need superior numbers. Every death of my Dwarven Rune Priest was only achieved by Chaos with a Zerg of one dozen jumping on me, so I am honored that my little Dwarf held himself so well.
Destro is the side for loosers! =P
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Give order a human tank class, and ill switch over :P
I've been playing both sides extensively and it really depends on the time of day and who is playing, not what faction they are. I was on my Zealot this morning and we were routing Order repeatedly, with roughly balanced numbers.
While I do not think its that bad (4:1) I do think you are right.
Destruction side has much better classes to chose from right now.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Edit: I think I took that post too seriously
Soz. Not in the best of moods now.
This is the one downside I've found in WAR. Too many times its seemed as if Order avoids open RvR because of numbers, which means on a core server there isn't much action. I don't want to play the unbalanced Open ruleset at all, but the population problems could end up turning tier 1-3 into pure pve for Core servers. I think once the missing classes are added things will even out more. It is pretty stupid for two T1 scenarios to feature 3 classes against 4 classes.
Logged onto Destro on the server at the top of the list (EU) - It said 'HIGH ORDER FULL DESTRO'.
Entered a Scenario.
Waits.
Waits.
Waits.
Logged out.
Rolls a brand new toon on order. Enters Scenario queue, waits FIVE SECONDS and POP in I go.
Order ftw.
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Open beta is not a good judge. In a day it went from being Full Destro on almost all servers, with med-high order on those same servers to being low destro, med-high order on most. I'm sure lots of people stopped playing after trying it otu so they didn't ruin much, and some stopped in general, and I think they must've upped the server populations, but still.
I was running around without a whole lot of Destro resistance for a bit now, except over in empire starting RvR area.
Looking at the server select screen, I can see that on many servers it's "med" destruction versus "low" order, and other servers it's "high" destruction versus "med" order. On some server's it "low" for both.
I'm inclined to think that Destruction versus Order is more on the scale of 3:2 than 4:1.
It might seem higher in the actual RvR areas because people who tend to side on the "evil" side of the game tend also to be in favor of raising havoc amongst their fellow players, and thus tend to enjoy PvP more.
I live for PvP but found it pointless PvP'ing outdoors it was just a constant zerg with destro on my server I'll be choosing very carefully tonight for the live game opening. It's a great game but I'm finding the balance of the 2 sides to be alot of trouble, I decided way back I would role Order because of this I was just hoping a lot more would think along that line. However from the beta I did feel i preffered the quality of players on the Order side.
Personally, I prefer to side with the underdogs because it's fun for everybody. Siding with the guys who have less population means I'm never out of targets, and so that's fun for me. Siding with the guys who have less population means the other guys have more people to fight, so that's fun for them.
On the other hand, if we all joined Destruction because we think they'll always win fights, then we run into a situation in which there's nobody to fight. That's boring. We break the game because we're looking for the easy way out.
In a bit of karmic retribution, note that server login queues are handled on an individual faction basis and when your side is full, you will sit on a queue waiting to login. That's pretty good incentive to join the less popular side on a busy server.
hehe...what"s your point ? everybody knows germans are evil...that's why they choose chaos
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10 second queue time for scenerios on order side is a whole lot better then 45mins-2 hours on destruction.
I'm not talking scenario queue, I'm talking login queue.
Yes,unlike WoW, login queues are individual for both factions in the server. That's what I was talking about.
On the other hand, if you're on a less popular server, maybe that'll never be a problem.
Are we guys playing the same game? Destruction maybe has 10% more players, but the quality (i.e. skill) of Destruction players are very bad and overall Order has an advantage.
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Off topic, but i had to say it: i definately like your sig
He he I remember that Paul B said on one of the podcast that the germans were much more in love with all the spiked armor and evil looks of destruction than people in the UK or US were. That might explain why the german servers show such an imbalance.
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QFT... sorta. I still love my Black Orc.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
TBH, beta is not really a good test for what the live server balances wil be. In WoW beta, the Horde side was always more populated than the Alliance side. That all changed at launch, except for the PvP servers. I'm pretty certain it'll be almost the same thing for WAR. But I do agree that, for the most part, the Destruction side has more interesting classes, though the Empire Bright Wizard has been a hoot to play. It's the first non-melee class that I've actually enjoyed in an mmo.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
for me atleast the starting are with chosen was a feeling of chaos and war that being fun
With the Empire I felt like I was in a care bear surrounding PVE is much better for early grasping in Destruction side
Its almost 2:1 destro. I see no problem because I am a very strong order guild. Most have heard of us Divinity. We roll over destro like nothing.
I think that the imbalance a lot to do with the fact that a lot of PvP players seem to favor destruction. And also, time of day makes for variation. After the kiddies go to bed it's a more balanced fight.
Yeah all the little kids like destro.
After OB, I finally made the decision. I'm going Order. Let all the kids roll their Chosen, Black Orcs and Witch Elves.
And by the way, any EU order guilds recruiting?
Although Destruction outnumber order most of destruction players are complete morons so it kinda balance out. This is just my experience with closed beta and open beta.
Also this ratio means shit if it on a Core server because we all know Core server are the pussy servers, Open RvR FTW.
OP:
"At least thats what I experienced in Open RVR on the 3 German Servers I was playing on and trying out. Even at lucky hours it was always 2:1. These ratios were about 80-90% of all RVR battles. Fact.
The funny thing is, we Order players even held ground against 2:1, even when most Destro players were around level 10 and most of ours levels 6-8 typically. As expected Destro is for the masses who need superior numbers. Every death of my Dwarven Rune Priest was only achieved by Chaos with a Zerg of one dozen jumping on me, so I am honored that my little Dwarf held himself so well.
Destro is the side for loosers! =P "
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Lol !!! Have you ever thought about, that it could be refer more to the chosen class/faction than the skill ? - And no: healers of the factions are not equal, only (maybe) similar
/played all 6 healer classes, closed beta...