Well the fanboys hype "feeling good" is certainly fed here.
Sorry to bust the balloon who was inflating these last posts. But the active playing Wow players won't desert WotLK to play WAR. In fact I get the impression AoC generated more "hype" than WAR did in and out of the game (can only speak for EU though). WAR could recruit from the guys who were burned out from Wow and other MMO's. But the problem is: isn't WAR the actual game to become very fast burned out itself (battle fatigue already seen in aonther post).
"Battle fatigue"? Your words, not anyone else's. I didn't want to comment on the other thread responding to an obvious Wow troll, but please don't take what others say and twist it to fit your agenda.
The "battle fatigue" you're referring to is those playing the game for a few hours and feel like they're having fun, stop, and resume normal life. Unlike in Wow where you raid for days on end, only to be put back on the treadmill once you hit the next raiding tier. Guess what, when Wotlk comes out, you'll get to do it all over again. Chasing the gear treadmill, that's the hollow feeling most people get playing Wow.
In case you want to know, at least half of the people in my guild (210+ members) are giving War a shot.
Just play the game for 10 days and come back (like I did).
Coming from Wow you won't believe your eyes comparing things.
But wait before posting in the next 10 days and then come back. (and BTW I would never use words like "vomit" like someone else did in this very post, but play the damned thing extensively and then come back).
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Every copy sold of WAR is free publicity for WotLK.
Uhmn...guess what, I've been playing it since ob. I have two toons in Wow in T5/6. Please don't assume the readers here are mindless dots that you can sway with your Wow fanboyism.
Uhmn...guess what, I've been playing it since ob. I have two toons in Wow in T5/6. Please don't assume the readers here are mindless dots that you can sway with your Wow fanboyism.
Exactly I have no idea why these dumb wow fanbois come to the WAR section crying and trying to keep people from playing or even trying a great game. WAR is everything wow could have been. Its really fun and complete. We don't go into their crap section and mouth wow so they should show the same respect then again these are wow players we are talking about and they are nothing but childish trolls.
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I agree with OP wholeheartedly. I hate Blizzard with burning passion for all the things they originally promised for WoW but failed to deliver out of pure arrogance and laziness. Hello? Character titles? Does it take 4 years to program character titles into a game that makes 150 million dollars per effing month? What about world PvP in World Of Warcraft? It was promised waay before the release and no one can sell me that retard story that it was always supposed to be a PvE-only game. 2 factions, based on a RTS that introduced multiplayer to the genre. Hello? I've been playing that POS since the release simply because there was nothing else out there with a comparable level of polish or sheer bulk of content. I canceled my account the day I had the opportunity to play WAR OB and so did my whole guild. I don't care how awesome Diablo III may turn out to be but I'm not buying it out of sheer principle. Blizzard is not getting one single cent from me ever again.
Yet you still payed them month after month to play a game you 'didn't like'... I find that hilarious in its irony, and you blame blizzard for what exactly?? You've only got yourself to blame for your own stu... I'll leave it at that.
I played the game knowing that it is crap. That's called maturity you know - being honest. It is like you're driving a crappy car but that's the only car on the market. You don't have to go on gushing how awesome it is just because it is the only car available that actually functions. A normal person would say "It's a crappy car that I'm driving but I have no other choice. Fie to the monopolizing bastards and the incompetent competition unable to better that POS."
It is a sign of immaturity and desperation when you proclaim something "the best" just because you're using it.. ego problems are the source of most fanboism. I tell it like I think it is - yep, it's crap, and I've known it as crap but I've played it because I like to have online fun with my RL mates and nothing else delivered at the bare minimum level of acceptability until now.
Ok I was under the impression that you didn't have fun playing the game and I thought that it was kinda pathetic wasting your time on something you hated.
PS: I'm still not exactly sure what you're blaming Blizzard for though? They are a company after all, companies make money, yet you feel screwed how?
Pretty much the same reason why so many people feel screwed by food companies selling sub-par goods. Their making money is a motivation that can be opposed to my motivation of enjoying a quality product. A food company can sell you cheap crap that is masked by additives to taste good just to make a measly cent, with no care whatsoever for the good of their consumers or public at large.
A honest provider of services that is making a good profit will make an effort to improve his product. In addition this is a good business sense because a happy customer is a returning customer. Blizzard is a dishonest company in that sense because they had the means and the need to improve their product and yet they failed to do so... just out of sheer arrogance and monopolism. Let me repeat a figure again: 150 million dollars a month. They could have released a TBC-sized expansion every few months with that kind of money, and do it for free and yet turn enormous profit. Greedy creeps.
Let's just put that last figure in perspective: WAR cost 50 mil bucks to make. Blizzard could have released 3 new Warhammers per month... and now all the sheep are jumping up and down in excitement because Bliz deigned to sell them one crappy world PvP zone for 50 $ after 4 years of grind.
They are making 3 games (SC 2, D3 and 1 MMO not anounced yet on top of LK, so afraid your argument is a bit unfounded. Out of those 150m you need to take out the costs for running WoW and salaries of their staff. They release more free content than most MMOs, and good quality content too.
You are saying that they are greedy for releasing 1 expansion every 2 years and asking players to pay for it... We'll, I wonder what you would make of SOE for releasing an expansion every 6 months that added very little to the game. They keep improving the game, just look at WoW at release and now, so your point about them being dishonest is also out of the window.
The reason you don't like Blizzard is simply because you feel they are too big now and don't want to make them bigger, your other points are based on fantasy.
Blizzard released a report saying they've only spent 200mil on the upkeep of WoW since launch, so your argument is bunk. There is a point to be made that WAR only cost 50 mil to be created (if that is indeed accurate, I have yet to see anything about that in an article).
Uhmn...guess what, I've been playing it since ob. I have two toons in Wow in T5/6. Please don't assume the readers here are mindless dots that you can sway with your Wow fanboyism.
Exactly I have no idea why these dumb wow fanbois come to the WAR section crying and trying to keep people from playing or even trying a great game. WAR is everything wow could have been. Its really fun and complete. We don't go into their crap section and mouth wow so they should show the same respect then again these are wow players we are talking about and they are nothing but childish trolls.
Err... actually, I don't think there's a MMO out there that doesn't have people going into its forums promoting other games and slamming the game in question... WoW included.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Take a look at the PvP threads on the Wow site. People ar constantly complaining about the PvP. It's either balance issues, broken maps, no real world PvP, not enough BGs, overpowered items making classes and unskilled player invincible.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I been around long enough to know when an MMO will hit it big I was with Wow since Alpha and that alone and what I said during the whole development says enough too bad you wasn't there to see the same predictions while people mouthed me just like you are. I don't just make shit up. Sorry for your lack of confidence.
Oh FFS, drop the damn hyper-defensive crap, will you? I wasn't "mouthing" you (I assume you meant mouthing off).
Are you so hostile toward any differing opinion in real life too?
As for the little ego trip about "being around MMOs long enough"... Mythic's been around longer than that, and in a much more up-close and personal way. They have a lot more to go on than just a "gut feeling" or strong opinion. They *still* cannot predict just how well the game will do.
Whatever the hell has you so damn wound up, I recommend avoiding it for a while. Try decaf or something.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Take a look at the PvP threads on the Wow site. People ar constantly complaining about the PvP. It's either balance issues, broken maps, no real world PvP, not enough BGs, overpowered items making classes and unskilled player invincible.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Take a look at the PvP threads on the Wow site. People ar constantly complaining about the PvP. It's either balance issues, broken maps, no real world PvP, not enough BGs, overpowered items making classes and unskilled player invincible.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
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Oh FFS, drop the damn hyper-defensive crap, will you? I wasn't "mouthing" you (I assume you meant mouthing off). Are you so hostile toward any differing opinion in real life too? Whatever the hell has you so damn wound up, I recommend avoiding it for a while. Try decaf or something.
Yeah I am personally all about WAR > WoW right now, but I'm not running around ramming it down anyone's throat. Personal preference will always be personal preference.
Oh FFS, drop the damn hyper-defensive crap, will you? I wasn't "mouthing" you (I assume you meant mouthing off). Are you so hostile toward any differing opinion in real life too? Whatever the hell has you so damn wound up, I recommend avoiding it for a while. Try decaf or something.
Yeah I am personally all about WAR > WoW right now, but I'm not running around ramming it down anyone's throat. Personal preference will always be personal preference.
Problem is these are the WAR forums and any defense again wowtards should be made. You don't help matters by spreading false truths.
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I agree with OP wholeheartedly. I hate Blizzard with burning passion for all the things they originally promised for WoW but failed to deliver out of pure arrogance and laziness. Hello? Character titles? Does it take 4 years to program character titles into a game that makes 150 million dollars per effing month? What about world PvP in World Of Warcraft? It was promised waay before the release and no one can sell me that retard story that it was always supposed to be a PvE-only game. 2 factions, based on a RTS that introduced multiplayer to the genre. Hello? I've been playing that POS since the release simply because there was nothing else out there with a comparable level of polish or sheer bulk of content. I canceled my account the day I had the opportunity to play WAR OB and so did my whole guild. I don't care how awesome Diablo III may turn out to be but I'm not buying it out of sheer principle. Blizzard is not getting one single cent from me ever again.
Yet you still payed them month after month to play a game you 'didn't like'... I find that hilarious in its irony, and you blame blizzard for what exactly?? You've only got yourself to blame for your own stu... I'll leave it at that.
I played the game knowing that it is crap. That's called maturity you know - being honest. It is like you're driving a crappy car but that's the only car on the market. You don't have to go on gushing how awesome it is just because it is the only car available that actually functions. A normal person would say "It's a crappy car that I'm driving but I have no other choice. Fie to the monopolizing bastards and the incompetent competition unable to better that POS."
It is a sign of immaturity and desperation when you proclaim something "the best" just because you're using it.. ego problems are the source of most fanboism. I tell it like I think it is - yep, it's crap, and I've known it as crap but I've played it because I like to have online fun with my RL mates and nothing else delivered at the bare minimum level of acceptability until now.
Ok I was under the impression that you didn't have fun playing the game and I thought that it was kinda pathetic wasting your time on something you hated.
PS: I'm still not exactly sure what you're blaming Blizzard for though? They are a company after all, companies make money, yet you feel screwed how?
Pretty much the same reason why so many people feel screwed by food companies selling sub-par goods. Their making money is a motivation that can be opposed to my motivation of enjoying a quality product. A food company can sell you cheap crap that is masked by additives to taste good just to make a measly cent, with no care whatsoever for the good of their consumers or public at large.
A honest provider of services that is making a good profit will make an effort to improve his product. In addition this is a good business sense because a happy customer is a returning customer. Blizzard is a dishonest company in that sense because they had the means and the need to improve their product and yet they failed to do so... just out of sheer arrogance and monopolism. Let me repeat a figure again: 150 million dollars a month. They could have released a TBC-sized expansion every few months with that kind of money, and do it for free and yet turn enormous profit. Greedy creeps.
Let's just put that last figure in perspective: WAR cost 50 mil bucks to make. Blizzard could have released 3 new Warhammers per month... and now all the sheep are jumping up and down in excitement because Bliz deigned to sell them one crappy world PvP zone for 50 $ after 4 years of grind.
They are making 3 games (SC 2, D3 and 1 MMO not anounced yet on top of LK, so afraid your argument is a bit unfounded. Out of those 150m you need to take out the costs for running WoW and salaries of their staff. They release more free content than most MMOs, and good quality content too.
You are saying that they are greedy for releasing 1 expansion every 2 years and asking players to pay for it... We'll, I wonder what you would make of SOE for releasing an expansion every 6 months that added very little to the game. They keep improving the game, just look at WoW at release and now, so your point about them being dishonest is also out of the window.
The reason you don't like Blizzard is simply because you feel they are too big now and don't want to make them bigger, your other points are based on fantasy.
The idea that blizzard is "improving" the game with their expansions is completely subjective. To me adding nothing but shitty raids to a game that is already raid centric is redundant, and does not improve upon anything. Also, I have to agree that adding ONE world pvp zone does not actually constitute "world" pvp. It should be called "zone" pvp because if it was "world" pvp it would take place accross the entire "world".
Anyways, WoW can go ahead and eff off already. I'm sick of hearing about it. I played for like 6 months, enjoyed my time, and moved on. I'd like for the rest of the world to either enjoy it and shut up about it, or just shut up about it and hate it still.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
Take a look at the PvP threads on the Wow site. People ar constantly complaining about the PvP. It's either balance issues, broken maps, no real world PvP, not enough BGs, overpowered items making classes and unskilled player invincible.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
Actually Im pretty sure that people stopped playing DAoC because Mythic ruined it.... the same reason why people were excited they were going to come out with a classic server...
What I would really really recommend to you is that you look up the word "fact" before you continue posting here... ah hell I'll look it up for you.
Fact:
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
Now please try your hardest to comprehend and actually understand what a "fact" is before you spout more crap on this forum.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike Loved: Star Wars Galaxies Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
Take a look at the PvP threads on the Wow site. People ar constantly complaining about the PvP. It's either balance issues, broken maps, no real world PvP, not enough BGs, overpowered items making classes and unskilled player invincible.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just asserting that games get old, PERIOD. After a length of time the majority of people will tire unless it's constantly changing. Like I already said, I'm ALL about WAR. So don't treat me like a WoW fanboi and have some respect.
Don't know what you guys were last talking about on this thread but I wanted to know something...
I'm an Eq2 player, I love it .. I love the raiding, quests and the solo'ing...
If War is refreshing to Wow players ... I wonder what an eq2 player would think of it... I heard raiding is not to the main theme and raid gear also falls under that category ...
Perhaps I'll just simply have to try and see...
Any thoughs ... any ex eq2'ers in War already .. I assume so ...
Take a look at the PvP threads on the Wow site. People ar constantly complaining about the PvP. It's either balance issues, broken maps, no real world PvP, not enough BGs, overpowered items making classes and unskilled player invincible.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off. Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just asserting that games get old, PERIOD. After a length of time the majority of people will tire unless it's constantly changing. Like I already said, I'm ALL about WAR. So don't treat me like a WoW fanboi and have some respect.
You are arguing very much so. Games done right wont get old. Wow was great and was fine until Blizzard messed it up. My point is Mythic won't do that based on past experiences. With WAR the world is dynamic in how it works... It is always changing.
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Take a look at the PvP threads on the Wow site. People ar constantly complaining about the PvP. It's either balance issues, broken maps, no real world PvP, not enough BGs, overpowered items making classes and unskilled player invincible.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just asserting that games get old, PERIOD. After a length of time the majority of people will tire unless it's constantly changing. Like I already said, I'm ALL about WAR. So don't treat me like a WoW fanboi and have some respect.
You are arguing very much so. Games done right wont get old. Wow was great and was fine until Blizzard messed it up. My point is Mythic won't do that based on past experiences. With WAR the world is dynamic in how it works... It is always changing.
I agreed with the OP. I'm leaving WoW for WAR. How is that arguing? We are both of the same viewpoint as far as that goes. IDK what your problem is, but you seem to want to attack everyone on this forum. You just need to relax and stop acting like Bill Clinton.
In reply to the OP I'm loving this game as well. I'm only lvl 12 and my toon looks kick arse already, cant wait to see what he looks like when I hit 40. As for the Blizz debate, I'm not going to slag them off I had many a good play day playing the game. But its time for a change, WoW has had its day in the sun as far as I am concerned. WAR has got me into MMO's again and that for me is what counts.
Take a look at the PvP threads on the Wow site. People ar constantly complaining about the PvP. It's either balance issues, broken maps, no real world PvP, not enough BGs, overpowered items making classes and unskilled player invincible.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off. Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just asserting that games get old, PERIOD. After a length of time the majority of people will tire unless it's constantly changing. Like I already said, I'm ALL about WAR. So don't treat me like a WoW fanboi and have some respect.
You are arguing very much so. Games done right wont get old. Wow was great and was fine until Blizzard messed it up. My point is Mythic won't do that based on past experiences. With WAR the world is dynamic in how it works... It is always changing.
I agreed with the OP. I'm leaving WoW for WAR. How is that arguing? We are both of the same viewpoint as far as that goes. IDK what your problem is, but you seem to want to attack everyone on this forum. You just need to relax and stop acting like Bill Clinton.
I have no problem you are the one trying to correct me with false information and make me look bad. The Bill Clinton comment made no sense either. Please stop trying to look like the better person as you only do the opposite.
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WoW is the reason that this genre is where it is...
So if it weren't for WoW...
The more interesting MMOGs would still have decent populations?
The NGE would not have happened?
EQ2 would have been more unique?
If it weren't for WoW... this genre would be much less diluted?
Wait, what am I saying? If not WoW, someone else would have cloned EQ, watered it down, and hyped up the resulting pile of shit to a bunch of high school kids.
I have no problem you are the one trying to correct me with false information and make me look bad. The Bill Clinton comment made no sense either. Please stop trying to look like the better person as you only do the opposite.
False information? Whaaaa? You were making yourself look bad, you didn't need my help. And the Bill Clinton thing. During Hillary's campaign Bill just basically trash talked anyone who said anything remotely negative about Hillary. Was the most ridiculous thing, everyone was saying he was harming the cause more than helping. Hence the connection to you just trash talking wow and wow players, when you should be trying to persuade them.
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Just play the game for 10 days and come back (like I did).
Coming from Wow you won't believe your eyes comparing things.
But wait before posting in the next 10 days and then come back. (and BTW I would never use words like "vomit" like someone else did in this very post, but play the damned thing extensively and then come back).
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Every copy sold of WAR is free publicity for WotLK.
Uhmn...guess what, I've been playing it since ob. I have two toons in Wow in T5/6. Please don't assume the readers here are mindless dots that you can sway with your Wow fanboyism.
Exactly I have no idea why these dumb wow fanbois come to the WAR section crying and trying to keep people from playing or even trying a great game. WAR is everything wow could have been. Its really fun and complete. We don't go into their crap section and mouth wow so they should show the same respect then again these are wow players we are talking about and they are nothing but childish trolls.
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Yet you still payed them month after month to play a game you 'didn't like'... I find that hilarious in its irony, and you blame blizzard for what exactly?? You've only got yourself to blame for your own stu... I'll leave it at that.
I played the game knowing that it is crap. That's called maturity you know - being honest. It is like you're driving a crappy car but that's the only car on the market. You don't have to go on gushing how awesome it is just because it is the only car available that actually functions. A normal person would say "It's a crappy car that I'm driving but I have no other choice. Fie to the monopolizing bastards and the incompetent competition unable to better that POS."
It is a sign of immaturity and desperation when you proclaim something "the best" just because you're using it.. ego problems are the source of most fanboism. I tell it like I think it is - yep, it's crap, and I've known it as crap but I've played it because I like to have online fun with my RL mates and nothing else delivered at the bare minimum level of acceptability until now.
Ok I was under the impression that you didn't have fun playing the game and I thought that it was kinda pathetic wasting your time on something you hated.
PS: I'm still not exactly sure what you're blaming Blizzard for though? They are a company after all, companies make money, yet you feel screwed how?
Pretty much the same reason why so many people feel screwed by food companies selling sub-par goods. Their making money is a motivation that can be opposed to my motivation of enjoying a quality product. A food company can sell you cheap crap that is masked by additives to taste good just to make a measly cent, with no care whatsoever for the good of their consumers or public at large.
A honest provider of services that is making a good profit will make an effort to improve his product. In addition this is a good business sense because a happy customer is a returning customer. Blizzard is a dishonest company in that sense because they had the means and the need to improve their product and yet they failed to do so... just out of sheer arrogance and monopolism. Let me repeat a figure again: 150 million dollars a month. They could have released a TBC-sized expansion every few months with that kind of money, and do it for free and yet turn enormous profit. Greedy creeps.
Let's just put that last figure in perspective: WAR cost 50 mil bucks to make. Blizzard could have released 3 new Warhammers per month... and now all the sheep are jumping up and down in excitement because Bliz deigned to sell them one crappy world PvP zone for 50 $ after 4 years of grind.
They are making 3 games (SC 2, D3 and 1 MMO not anounced yet on top of LK, so afraid your argument is a bit unfounded. Out of those 150m you need to take out the costs for running WoW and salaries of their staff. They release more free content than most MMOs, and good quality content too.
You are saying that they are greedy for releasing 1 expansion every 2 years and asking players to pay for it... We'll, I wonder what you would make of SOE for releasing an expansion every 6 months that added very little to the game. They keep improving the game, just look at WoW at release and now, so your point about them being dishonest is also out of the window.
The reason you don't like Blizzard is simply because you feel they are too big now and don't want to make them bigger, your other points are based on fantasy.
Blizzard released a report saying they've only spent 200mil on the upkeep of WoW since launch, so your argument is bunk. There is a point to be made that WAR only cost 50 mil to be created (if that is indeed accurate, I have yet to see anything about that in an article).
Exactly I have no idea why these dumb wow fanbois come to the WAR section crying and trying to keep people from playing or even trying a great game. WAR is everything wow could have been. Its really fun and complete. We don't go into their crap section and mouth wow so they should show the same respect then again these are wow players we are talking about and they are nothing but childish trolls.
Err... actually, I don't think there's a MMO out there that doesn't have people going into its forums promoting other games and slamming the game in question... WoW included.
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People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
Oh FFS, drop the damn hyper-defensive crap, will you? I wasn't "mouthing" you (I assume you meant mouthing off).
Are you so hostile toward any differing opinion in real life too?
As for the little ego trip about "being around MMOs long enough"... Mythic's been around longer than that, and in a much more up-close and personal way. They have a lot more to go on than just a "gut feeling" or strong opinion. They *still* cannot predict just how well the game will do.
Whatever the hell has you so damn wound up, I recommend avoiding it for a while. Try decaf or something.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
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Yeah I am personally all about WAR > WoW right now, but I'm not running around ramming it down anyone's throat. Personal preference will always be personal preference.
Yeah I am personally all about WAR > WoW right now, but I'm not running around ramming it down anyone's throat. Personal preference will always be personal preference.
Problem is these are the WAR forums and any defense again wowtards should be made. You don't help matters by spreading false truths.
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Yet you still payed them month after month to play a game you 'didn't like'... I find that hilarious in its irony, and you blame blizzard for what exactly?? You've only got yourself to blame for your own stu... I'll leave it at that.
I played the game knowing that it is crap. That's called maturity you know - being honest. It is like you're driving a crappy car but that's the only car on the market. You don't have to go on gushing how awesome it is just because it is the only car available that actually functions. A normal person would say "It's a crappy car that I'm driving but I have no other choice. Fie to the monopolizing bastards and the incompetent competition unable to better that POS."
It is a sign of immaturity and desperation when you proclaim something "the best" just because you're using it.. ego problems are the source of most fanboism. I tell it like I think it is - yep, it's crap, and I've known it as crap but I've played it because I like to have online fun with my RL mates and nothing else delivered at the bare minimum level of acceptability until now.
Ok I was under the impression that you didn't have fun playing the game and I thought that it was kinda pathetic wasting your time on something you hated.
PS: I'm still not exactly sure what you're blaming Blizzard for though? They are a company after all, companies make money, yet you feel screwed how?
Pretty much the same reason why so many people feel screwed by food companies selling sub-par goods. Their making money is a motivation that can be opposed to my motivation of enjoying a quality product. A food company can sell you cheap crap that is masked by additives to taste good just to make a measly cent, with no care whatsoever for the good of their consumers or public at large.
A honest provider of services that is making a good profit will make an effort to improve his product. In addition this is a good business sense because a happy customer is a returning customer. Blizzard is a dishonest company in that sense because they had the means and the need to improve their product and yet they failed to do so... just out of sheer arrogance and monopolism. Let me repeat a figure again: 150 million dollars a month. They could have released a TBC-sized expansion every few months with that kind of money, and do it for free and yet turn enormous profit. Greedy creeps.
Let's just put that last figure in perspective: WAR cost 50 mil bucks to make. Blizzard could have released 3 new Warhammers per month... and now all the sheep are jumping up and down in excitement because Bliz deigned to sell them one crappy world PvP zone for 50 $ after 4 years of grind.
They are making 3 games (SC 2, D3 and 1 MMO not anounced yet on top of LK, so afraid your argument is a bit unfounded. Out of those 150m you need to take out the costs for running WoW and salaries of their staff. They release more free content than most MMOs, and good quality content too.
You are saying that they are greedy for releasing 1 expansion every 2 years and asking players to pay for it... We'll, I wonder what you would make of SOE for releasing an expansion every 6 months that added very little to the game. They keep improving the game, just look at WoW at release and now, so your point about them being dishonest is also out of the window.
The reason you don't like Blizzard is simply because you feel they are too big now and don't want to make them bigger, your other points are based on fantasy.
The idea that blizzard is "improving" the game with their expansions is completely subjective. To me adding nothing but shitty raids to a game that is already raid centric is redundant, and does not improve upon anything. Also, I have to agree that adding ONE world pvp zone does not actually constitute "world" pvp. It should be called "zone" pvp because if it was "world" pvp it would take place accross the entire "world".
Anyways, WoW can go ahead and eff off already. I'm sick of hearing about it. I played for like 6 months, enjoyed my time, and moved on. I'd like for the rest of the world to either enjoy it and shut up about it, or just shut up about it and hate it still.
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People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
Actually Im pretty sure that people stopped playing DAoC because Mythic ruined it.... the same reason why people were excited they were going to come out with a classic server...
What I would really really recommend to you is that you look up the word "fact" before you continue posting here... ah hell I'll look it up for you.
Fact:
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
Now please try your hardest to comprehend and actually understand what a "fact" is before you spout more crap on this forum.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
People complain about wow because thats what they do about every game once the newness wears off.
Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just asserting that games get old, PERIOD. After a length of time the majority of people will tire unless it's constantly changing. Like I already said, I'm ALL about WAR. So don't treat me like a WoW fanboi and have some respect.
Don't know what you guys were last talking about on this thread but I wanted to know something...
I'm an Eq2 player, I love it .. I love the raiding, quests and the solo'ing...
If War is refreshing to Wow players ... I wonder what an eq2 player would think of it... I heard raiding is not to the main theme and raid gear also falls under that category ...
Perhaps I'll just simply have to try and see...
Any thoughs ... any ex eq2'ers in War already .. I assume so ...
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Im a wow player, on a pvp server. I tried WAR, and while I think its a decent game, it doesnt bring enough new elements to the table to warrant switching from wow. To me it feels like I'm playing a sluggish, wow wannabe, even though WAR does have some differences (classes and such).
I agree about the "newness" comment. People will probably be trashing WAR in 4-5 years as well. It's just how it goes.
Wrong... Mythics other game is still one of the best and it was made a few years before wow the reason people don't play it is the graphics are really dated and it was time for a new franchise. Please look at the fact before mouthing.
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just asserting that games get old, PERIOD. After a length of time the majority of people will tire unless it's constantly changing. Like I already said, I'm ALL about WAR. So don't treat me like a WoW fanboi and have some respect.
You are arguing very much so. Games done right wont get old. Wow was great and was fine until Blizzard messed it up. My point is Mythic won't do that based on past experiences. With WAR the world is dynamic in how it works... It is always changing.
I agreed with the OP. I'm leaving WoW for WAR. How is that arguing? We are both of the same viewpoint as far as that goes. IDK what your problem is, but you seem to want to attack everyone on this forum. You just need to relax and stop acting like Bill Clinton.
In reply to the OP I'm loving this game as well. I'm only lvl 12 and my toon looks kick arse already, cant wait to see what he looks like when I hit 40. As for the Blizz debate, I'm not going to slag them off I had many a good play day playing the game. But its time for a change, WoW has had its day in the sun as far as I am concerned. WAR has got me into MMO's again and that for me is what counts.
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WoW is the reason that this genre is where it is...
So if it weren't for WoW...
If it weren't for WoW... this genre would be much less diluted?
Wait, what am I saying? If not WoW, someone else would have cloned EQ, watered it down, and hyped up the resulting pile of shit to a bunch of high school kids.
False information? Whaaaa? You were making yourself look bad, you didn't need my help. And the Bill Clinton thing. During Hillary's campaign Bill just basically trash talked anyone who said anything remotely negative about Hillary. Was the most ridiculous thing, everyone was saying he was harming the cause more than helping. Hence the connection to you just trash talking wow and wow players, when you should be trying to persuade them.
So again, calm down, same team!